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GT7 Daily Race Discussion
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Oh yes significantly faster, above ~6250 rpm it kind of runs out of air and revs to death and since it can rev up to about 7750 RPM it would take forever until it shifts at AT or shows the shift light at MT . I shift at 6000-6250 RPM and as you can see the time is sooo bad, especially for the M4 really not. There's still some air in there, but unfortunately it's difficult to get it into one lap.
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- rodgers1
I’d love for a there to be a guide about knowing how to manually shift these cars. As @Sjokkomoes said I never knew you had to shift very early in the M4 to get the speed from the car. Was only until we did Monza a few weeks back in the manufacture cup that I found you had to shift at like 6000rpm. What makes it worst is AT revs the car out.
Think this why I’m struggling with the Supra at Race B. Wrong gear at the time and you lose speed and time. Also does the supra have a very small window to change gear?
There is an older thread on this site somewhere discussing power curves and shifting points, but it was a GT Sport post. Something like this for GT7 would be great. Even better, something that explains how to interpret power/torque curves from settings.
Does the Supra need to be shifted early for best results?
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It’s from GTSport but it appears to still be true for GT7. Just some cars missing.
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Yeah I’d love to be able to understand the curves. Someone did try and explain to me on a YT stream but they started to talk a completely different language (geeky car chat) and I was like “way too complicated“.
I found Supra you had to shift just before the rpm bar gets full, but I could be wrong. I copied it from a top driver. The image below is about were I found people shifting. I could be wrong through so.
.@D_Dragline Thats so annoying as I’ve had this information under my nose for a few momths now! I use this site for the track conditions in the nation and manufactures. Cheers for the link though 👍🏻👍🏻
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The short shifting of the supra is over stated. I forgot to do it and set a pretty good time. When I do shirt shift there’s hardly any gain on my ghost.
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In GTS you can drive the M4 very well in automatic and it pulls through properly, but in GT7 that doesn't work by far. You can easily pull an AT M4 Gr4 over the table with a ... hmmm let's think about it ... VW Beetle '1962 ;P (Attention, this only applies if BoP is active..... without BoP it can be quite different)It’s from GTSport but it appears to still be true for GT7. Just some cars missing.
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@D_Dragline @xMAXIx79 you two seem like you know a lot about this.
Aston Martin Gr4 I use this a lot as I like the way the car drives. I am shifting through the gears when the rpm bar is full and flashes. If I am reading this graph correct I should be shift gears before the rpm bar gets half full? To shift into 6th I should change gear at 2200rpm?
Aston Martin Gr4 I use this a lot as I like the way the car drives. I am shifting through the gears when the rpm bar is full and flashes. If I am reading this graph correct I should be shift gears before the rpm bar gets half full? To shift into 6th I should change gear at 2200rpm?
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No, you read the graphic wrong, the upper lines are "compressed or shortened to the upper range in the performance diagram" to better recognize the progression of the performance curve at the upper end AND to see where the speed goes when you shift at x. Here comes the particularity that appears in GT7, for example. the M4 exists, the M4 also has the most power at the end of the speed range, but this does not increase so much and the fairly high torque drops too early on the same side. The force that moves a vehicle forward in gear x is the sum of power AND torque. In most vehicles, especially with a petrol engine, you usually have the highest "total product" at the end of the speed range. With diesel and "castrated" turbo petrol engines such as the M4, this can shift and it is greatly reinforced by BoP.
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- jdeviant1983
Unfortunately Race B is making me lose my temper no matter how much I enjoy the track and the good racing is good.
So many clean passes are then 'avenged' with a punt into the next turn it gets me close the point of joining a race just to be an a-hole as well.
Stepping away to chill out!
So many clean passes are then 'avenged' with a punt into the next turn it gets me close the point of joining a race just to be an a-hole as well.
Stepping away to chill out!
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- jdeviant1983
There's a few wide exit turns as well where just a little nudge can send someone into the wall or grass, with there being no run off it's very difficult to recover.
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@MidnightRun85 @D_Dragline @xMAXIx79
Thanks all for your help on that. I understand now what’s happening. Hopefully I can find a few tenths or two in my times 👍🏻
Thanks all for your help on that. I understand now what’s happening. Hopefully I can find a few tenths or two in my times 👍🏻
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URRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRGHHHHHHHHHH fought my way from 12th to 5th in Race B, made all the right decisions, some good passing, other guys fell off the road etc then at the last corner of the last lap a guy loses it in front of me and i get dinged 3 seconds for a yellow and lose 5 spots.
Seriously?
Seriously?
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Hey, @xMAXIx79 people are finally starting to listen to us about the Ford GT LM II R.C. I am going to try it out in B this week. Sure doesn't hurt it's the sexiest car in the game... IMHO.
I've said it before and I'll say it again: I hate this, too. I am no professional GT3 driver, but if you did this in a real car you'd be picking up pieces of block and transmission off the track for hours. Real cars have safe guards to specifically avoid this (flappy paddle ones, anyway) where it will NOT downshift if the lower gear puts the engine over redline. If you try, it just stays in the higher gear for ridiculously obvious reasons. The game should follow suit, and if nothing else, if you do that tactic the engine should blink red and you lose power. So so so dumb.
Did a couple race Bs and Cs on the secondary account.
Started from the back on race B, driving the Jag, as i didn't have a chance to quali since PSN was sketchy yesterday afternoon. And, I am not too familiar with this track in a Gr3 car (my money making car in 1P is the Epson NSX). Was a **** show again. Got pushed off twice by the same guy as I am making a pass. Side-by-side and he just pushes me into the sand... twice. Thanks d**k.
Before the next race I had two laps to put in a quali time which I usually try to put in a mid-pack time on the B account as I like to race people (which it can be tough to guess what a 'mid-pack' quali time will be sometimes), but logged a 41:1 which wasn't great but not bad for only having two laps. Unfortunately, it was good enough to have me starting up front. Oh well, ended up winning two races from there.
Then it was to C which I did the same as B and finally put in a quali lap in the Viper. Again, made a lot of mistakes and did a 7:11.0 which I thought would have me in the middle, but I started on pole. Ended up building a six second lead by the end of lap one and just took it easy on lap two to keep that delta.
Barely even worth mentioning but it's all I got for now. Plus, I needed an excuse to post a pic of my Viper with my livery as she's a beautiful machine. I will likely - hopefully - put in a better lap on race B on my primary account and do some races there; will avoid Nurb on the primary.
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I'm giving the PS5 another chance this morning, see if it's better early.
8:30 AM EST, bad matchmaking / not enough players for the top split on PS5. Where I'm already competing against A+ on PS4 at this time, on PS5 it's down to SR.B and SR.C... I get taken out before the start, T-Boned in the right hander to the start line. SR.B driver. Then get rammed off 3 times by the same driver while making a clean pass, DR C driver. I turned the other cheek 3 times and he took himself out before I could attempt a 4th pass.
Second race 9 AM EST A+/S to D/S grid, haven't seen that for a while. The DR D drivers were the most capable, side by side with two of them without issues in very difficult parts no less. They can leave room and share the road. Then I got up to the DR C driver who knocked me off last race. He did it again but I carried enough momentum to complete the pass on the grass. Last a DR.B driver who took himself out as I was gaining on him, looking too much in the mirror I guess. A+ GT-R won of course.
Thank you DR D players for restoring my faith in contact free driving! It is possible, even in the most difficult sections on the Nord. You just need to prioritize clean driving over chasing DR...
Back on PS4 for the 9:30 AM EST slot, much better matchmaking (A+/S to B/S), but glitches
The rest of the race went fine, made it back to 6th and got the clean race bonus despite all that.
New entry for the list F-Type won the race
14:12.286 A+ GT-R
14:16.703 A+ F-Type
14:17.003 A+ Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16
14:17.173 A+ SLS AMG
14:18.192 A+ 458 Italia
14:18.513 A+ M4
14:24.799 A 155 2.5 V6 TI '93
14:28.860 A+ GR Supra Race Car '19
14:31.706 A V8 Vantage
14:32.618 A 86
Anyway PS4 is the preferred place to race for me, lot more racers there that know their limits and when to go for it and when to fold.
8:30 AM EST, bad matchmaking / not enough players for the top split on PS5. Where I'm already competing against A+ on PS4 at this time, on PS5 it's down to SR.B and SR.C... I get taken out before the start, T-Boned in the right hander to the start line. SR.B driver. Then get rammed off 3 times by the same driver while making a clean pass, DR C driver. I turned the other cheek 3 times and he took himself out before I could attempt a 4th pass.
Second race 9 AM EST A+/S to D/S grid, haven't seen that for a while. The DR D drivers were the most capable, side by side with two of them without issues in very difficult parts no less. They can leave room and share the road. Then I got up to the DR C driver who knocked me off last race. He did it again but I carried enough momentum to complete the pass on the grass. Last a DR.B driver who took himself out as I was gaining on him, looking too much in the mirror I guess. A+ GT-R won of course.
Thank you DR D players for restoring my faith in contact free driving! It is possible, even in the most difficult sections on the Nord. You just need to prioritize clean driving over chasing DR...
Back on PS4 for the 9:30 AM EST slot, much better matchmaking (A+/S to B/S), but glitches
The rest of the race went fine, made it back to 6th and got the clean race bonus despite all that.
New entry for the list F-Type won the race
14:12.286 A+ GT-R
14:16.703 A+ F-Type
14:17.003 A+ Cayman GT4 Clubsport '16
14:17.173 A+ SLS AMG
14:18.192 A+ 458 Italia
14:18.513 A+ M4
14:24.799 A 155 2.5 V6 TI '93
14:28.860 A+ GR Supra Race Car '19
14:31.706 A V8 Vantage
14:32.618 A 86
Anyway PS4 is the preferred place to race for me, lot more racers there that know their limits and when to go for it and when to fold.
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There are a couple of threads with some really great information in them. I started one last week and it didn't really take, but the other one has a LOT of great information:It’s from GTSport but it appears to still be true for GT7. Just some cars missing.
Tips for Downshifting
I know it's mentioned every once in a while in various threads, but I'd like to pool together everyone's knowledge about downshifting and cornering in one place. The actual race craft isn't actually taught anywhere for these games, so this is the best resource I've got: your expert experience...
www.gtplanet.net
Knowing When To Shift
Hi Guys, cars are best shifted at a certain RPM, I've always just up shifted as late as possible but I'm losing time because of this. Can anyone give advice on how to figure out the ideal time to shift?
www.gtplanet.net
Feel free to interact with those threads to bump them up the list again. I think a lot of people could benefit from this knowledge pool.
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My new Indonesian friend
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- jdeviant1983
The question is how did he manage to get into 2nd, unless that was before the litre of bourbon
EDIT: Just seen the end I know you were trying to be the bigger man here but he definitely deserved being shoved off into the wall on the right hander before the final turn, he could hardly have had a complaint about it given the murder spree that was his laps.
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Exactly the type of driver you can’t avoid at the moment. I suspect he genuinely believes he’s ‘racing’ and that’s based on Fast & Furious and GTA-type stuff. Tbh, after the first one or two incidents I would’ve wiped him out, he was certainly asking for it, and driving like this there’s no way he’d catch you when you pass.
It’s PD’s fault. Penalties a joke, and no real attempt to encourage proper racing. This guy is probably enjoying the game andvtelling his mates to play it, and PD’s quite happy with that it seems. They’ve only had years and years to put things right, but won’t. They care about this guy and others like him more than than those of us who want to race properly but can’t for whatever reason (time/equipment/talent) escape to the A+ highlands (and even there there’s probably less of it, but it’s no guarantee of better driving, as NikNak has explained several times here).
They don’t care. I’m really trying to like online (single player is just bereft of things to do) but finding it impossible.
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We'll just brush over the incident at 4:57...
The Ferrari? I don’t even understand what happened there. I think I accidentally squeezed him but then he seemed to just fly off. Probably a red mist moment from me. I apologized to him after and we were all good. He even sent me a friend request.
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It's just not consistent. Even in the same race it depends on which lobby you land in. My experience from last week and the current week, Daily race B: lower B lobbies: sh.tshow, higher B lobbies: clean racing, lower A lobbies: sh.tshow, higher A lobbies: no idea, I will never get there...🤣
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I’ve been running in a sardegna A lobby with SOFT tyres. The magic of the track is back again. The obessision with hard tyres baffles me.
