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The Ferrari? I don’t even understand what happened there. I think I accidentally squeezed him but then he seemed to just fly off. Probably a red mist moment from me. I apologized to him after and we were all good. He even sent me a friend request.
Yeah. To be fair, he didn't really give you much of an option but if I was being picky I'd say you could have given him a little more space seeing as he had the pace to pass you - but he should have been further over to the right to seal the deal safely... Not saying you should have moved further off track but steered slightly to the left when he was on your front right corner.

We'll go with "racing incident" on this one...
 
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The Ferrari? I don’t even understand what happened there. I think I accidentally squeezed him but then he seemed to just fly off. Probably a red mist moment from me. I apologized to him after and we were all good. He even sent me a friend request.

Yeah. To be fair, he didn't really give you much of an option but if I was being picky I'd say you could have given him a little more space seeing as he had the pace to pass you - but he should have been further over to the right to seal the deal safely... Not saying you should have moved further off track but steered slightly to the left when he was on your front right corner.

We'll go with "racing incident" on this one...
Maybe I’m seeing it differently, but it looks like he passed you but then cut in too soon and got pitted by his own doing. It looked retaliatory on his part to be honest.

This happens to me all the time at corners, etc., where guys cut in front of me and then slam on the brakes just before a turn and then get angry at me when I have no option but to run into them. If they don’t give me the option to swerve then I just stopped feeling guilty about these things. ( except of course I do feel guilty because I’m trying to race clean in the first place, which we have established doesn’t seem to be a priority for PD at this point)

I think if the Ferrari saw the replay he’d agree that he should have established his position even one second longer before he cut in.
 
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The DR D drivers were the most capable, side by side with two of them without issues in very difficult parts no less. They can leave room and share the road. Then I got up to the DR C driver who knocked me off last race. He did it again but I carried enough momentum to complete the pass on the grass. Last a DR.B driver who took himself out as I was gaining on him, looking too much in the mirror I guess. A+ GT-R won of course.

Thank you DR D players for restoring my faith in contact free driving! It is possible, even in the most difficult sections on the Nord. You just need to prioritize clean driving over chasing DR...
Those DR D drivers could well be A+ guys slumming it to protect their main accounts. Until I started reading this thread I never knew so many people have alt/second accounts they use to race lower down the rankings.

Tbh I still don’t get it. If you’re an A+ driver and you drop to A, or even B, is it so hard to get back to where you started? And what does it matter anyway, what’s the advantage of staying A+ permanently? Or is there something I’m missing?

(There are two obvious problems with it as far as I can see: first, it’s a bit unfair on the genuine DR D, C, B players doing their best and being denied wins by A+ guys in disguise, and also it inflates the online player numbers, making it look more popular than it is; if only 1.5 per cent, or whatever it is, of players have triggered the 50 races trophy, how many of those were the same people doing it multiple times on different accounts? Is it really more like 1% or less?)
 
Maybe I’m seeing it differently, but it looks like he passed you but then cut in too soon and got pitted by his own doing. It looked retaliatory on his part to be honest.

This happens to me all the time at corners, etc., where guys cut in front of me and then slam on the brakes just before a turn and then get angry at me when I have no option but to run into them. If they don’t give me the option to swerve then I just stopped feeling guilty about these things. ( except of course I do feel guilty because I’m trying to race clean in the first place, which we have established doesn’t seem to be a priority for PD at this point)

I think if the Ferrari saw the replay he’d agree that he should have established his position even one second longer before he cut in.
What should have happened:

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What happened:

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Basically the trajectory of both cars was an incident in the making. The Ferrari came back too far too the left too early, setting up for the next apex, but @D_Dragline could have kept more to the left to give the Ferrari more room as he was clearly intent on coming over to the left. In reality as the chasing car you'd lift or tap the brakes if the car in front of you started shifting over and cutting you off and you had enough time to react.

I wouldn't say what he did was "retaliatory" considering there wasn't any malice in any of the driving before that, but he misjudged the positioning of the following car and essentially cut him off and paid the consequences. Those Ferrari's do not like getting off balance!!!
 
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What should have happened:

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What happened:

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Basically the trajectory of both cars was an incident in the making. The Ferrari came back too far too the left too early, setting up for the next apex, but @D_Dragline could have kept more to the left to give the Ferrari more room as he was clearly intent on coming over to the left. In reality as the chasing car you'd lift or tap the brakes if the car in front of you started shifting over and cutting you off and you had enough time to react.

I wouldn't say what he did was "retaliatory" considering there wasn't any malice in any of the driving before that, but he misjudged the positioning of the following car and essentially cut him off and paid the consequences. Those Ferrari's do not like getting off balance!!!
Judging by those pics (haven’t watched the vid) the Ferrari just came over too early, before he’d got ahead. The GTR would’ve had to go off the track to avoid contact. At least the right driver got their just desserts.
 
Those DR D drivers could well be A+ guys slumming it to protect their main accounts. Until I started reading this thread I never knew so many people have alt/second accounts they use to race lower down the rankings.

Tbh I still don’t get it. If you’re an A+ driver and you drop to A, or even B, is it so hard to get back to where you started? And what does it matter anyway, what’s the advantage of staying A+ permanently? Or is there something I’m missing?

(There are two obvious problems with it as far as I can see: first, it’s a bit unfair on the genuine DR D, C, B players doing their best and being denied wins by A+ guys in disguise, and also it inflates the online player numbers, making it look more popular than it is; if only 1.5 per cent, or whatever it is, of players have triggered the 50 races trophy, how many of those were the same people doing it multiple times on different accounts? Is it really more like 1% or less?)
I’ve got a 2nd account which I got up to A+ pretty quickly. I use it for races that are a bit dodgy, this weeks race b for example. Races where you will likely get punted and rammed, and to be honest, where I may even do the odd accidental punt myself.
 
The question was: Why? If your DR resets you will be back in A+ after a while. I honestly don't understand why people care so much. Weird flex but ok.
Because certain races are better than others and for the good ones I want to know I’ll be against people I know and respect and will drive fairly. I’ve got about 65k DR (flex) and I don’t want it tanked because gtarc83 rams me off every race but I still want to run those races without getting worked up about it.
 
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And the downshifting to 1st then right back to 3rd in half the turns is just ridiculous. That's just one thing that irks me about this game, shifting this much IRL would do nothing but slow you down. Just part of it I guess.

This is a real pet peeve of mine about this game. I’m also not very good at it, it feels totally unintuitive. The very quickest laps of any combo rarely bare any resemblance to actual driving, more someone who’s very good at computer games breaking the physics model. Last week at race c i didn’t bother once I saw how to set a quick time; jamming the CLK into 1st gear at 85mph mid corner…. absurd.

I've said it before and I'll say it again: I hate this, too. I am no professional GT3 driver, but if you did this in a real car you'd be picking up pieces of block and transmission off the track for hours. Real cars have safe guards to specifically avoid this (flappy paddle ones, anyway) where it will NOT downshift if the lower gear puts the engine over redline. If you try, it just stays in the higher gear for ridiculously obvious reasons. The game should follow suit, and if nothing else, if you do that tactic the engine should blink red and you lose power. So so so dumb.
People use this technique to help get the car to rotate in the corners, which can gain you a few tenths and add up over the course of a lap. The reason you have to do this is because of the inherent understeer that's present in the stock setups. With no tuning allowed there's no way to get rid of this. It would be great if they had someone at PD like @praiano63 setting up the cars. In an ideal world all cars would be competitive and easier to drive. However, people would still probably find a META. :lol:
 
thanks for sending this. how fitting that sardegna is one of the races. 725k in 25 +/- minutes is some easy money
 
The question was: Why? If your DR resets you will be back in A+ after a while. I honestly don't understand why people care so much. Weird flex but ok.
I sometimes reset my DR to get to race different people. The top split can get stale after a while, same people, same results. Atm I'm racing on ps5 which is also a different group of people nowadays from ps4. And it cleaned up since @Dairyworker and @sturk0167 joined the races. Great racing guys!

As for other reasons, some people chase number of victories, keeping dr low of course helps with that. Some just drive dirty when things don't go their way and get reset by losing too much SR, which only punishes the lower rated drivers.
 
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The question is how did he manage to get into 2nd, unless that was before the litre of bourbon

EDIT: Just seen the end I know you were trying to be the bigger man here but he definitely deserved being shoved off into the wall on the right hander before the final turn, he could hardly have had a complaint about it given the murder spree that was his laps.

I’ll post the full final act. I was not “the bigger man”.

These races have also seen him send me 171 DMs in 24 hours. He’s a very strange cat. But I suspect he’s about to get a holiday from PSN.
 
About 50/50 for good race/no race for me on C this week.

Most of the problems I've seen are caused by attempts to re-join the track. Almost every collision I've seen this week has been due to the re-spawning in like the worst possible place, which to be fair is everywhere on the Nurburgring. I've been guilty of just as much as others I've seen.

The good races I had I didn't mess up. I'm sure that's not a coincidence. :lol:
 
My best race on the Ring so far. Ok, I was very lucky, but that's not forbidden.


Glückwunsch!

Very nice. And I see that I have to learn a lot here. There are places on the track where I tend to drive much riskier than you... with "mixed" results. Two actual races so far, both went ugly. First one was entirely my own fault, I started P7 in a mixed lobby with some A drivers, felt pressured and made mistakes at places where I never had made one in practice. P12 in the end. Next one, down to a B/S lobby again, startin P5, had P6 sniffing on my exhaust for more than a lap, avoided the mistakes this time but held him up a bit. He was patient all the time, but in then in lap 2 tried to get alongside me in the right hander on Hohe Acht despite me being fairly quick there. He pushes me onto the grass, and returning on track, I lose position after position because every single car coming from behind passes by shoving me off the track again. P12 in the end, again. At least the guy who started it apologized in the chat afterwards. Well, okay...

Not my race, not my day.
 
For those of you who lack confidence at Nurburgring (like me), here's a compilation showing how to get a second place finish without being very good.
It was a mixed A/B DR race. I entered without a Q time, and all I did was keep the front of the car pointed forward.
This is a compilation of every pass I made during the race (In the 3rd clip, the white car ahead went off track and quit). None of them required much skill.

I'm sharing this to hopefully inspire some of the people who are nervous about entering the race to give it a try.
Just be conservative and stay on the track, and you will do fine. 👍

 
For those of you who lack confidence at Nurburgring (like me), here's a compilation showing how to get a second place finish without being very good.
It was a mixed A/B DR race. I entered without a Q time, and all I did was keep the front of the car pointed forward.
This is a compilation of every pass I made during the race (In the 3rd clip, the white car ahead went off track and quit). None of them required much skill.

I'm sharing this to hopefully inspire some of the people who are nervous about entering the race to give it a try.
Just be conservative and stay on the track, and you will do fine. 👍


Well, in my races at Nürburgring almost nobody made these kind of mistakes.


Except me.
 
Had some good races on Nordschleife yesterday, but the one that stands out does so because of sportsmanship. Started on pole and was having a great battle with driver that started 2nd. I was faster, but he held on first lap with draft... I got out of draft range, but then messed up the carousel, as I always do, which got him back in range. Pulled away again until that final banked corner where car slid a bit and lost momentum... again in slip and down long backstraight he closed to bumper but not enough to pass.

Second lap was more of the same for first half, only closer. Guy finally got impatient and tried an impossible inside line and wiped us both out. He waited and gave me back the lead when he could have sailed away easily. Luckily we had 20+ seconds on the rest of the pack. The rest of lap two I spent too much time checking my mirror and made lots of small mistakes until making a big one in sector 8 on a tricky high speed corner, and guy behind crashed avoiding me. I slowed and let him take lead... then followed, and was setting up to be in draft and take lead on back straight before messing up that stupid banked corner again and coming in 2 seconds down.

The other driver apologized in chat, but I told him he earned the win fair and square and waited when he was at fault. Other incident was all on me.

Got a friend request right after the race. 1 new friend > 1 win.

PS> I need to work on the carousel, that thing costs me time every lap and in this case a win. Driving the GT-R I can't decide whether taking it in 3rd or 2nd is better. I think 2nd gets less bogged down on exit and easier to stay on banking, but harder to get right. Any tips taking that corner with GT-R appreciated.
 
Maybe I’m seeing it differently, but it looks like he passed you but then cut in too soon and got pitted by his own doing. It looked retaliatory on his part to be honest.

This happens to me all the time at corners, etc., where guys cut in front of me and then slam on the brakes just before a turn and then get angry at me when I have no option but to run into them. If they don’t give me the option to swerve then I just stopped feeling guilty about these things. ( except of course I do feel guilty because I’m trying to race clean in the first place, which we have established doesn’t seem to be a priority for PD at this point)

I think if the Ferrari saw the replay he’d agree that he should have established his position even one second longer before he cut in.
Having seen it from his perspective I think this is right.

I inadvertently drifted a bit too far right as he approached but moved left as soon as I saw him. He then misjudged his move left and pit maneuvered himself on my front panel. It all happened so fast though that I think it was just one of those unfortunate incidents.
 
Having seen it from his perspective I think this is right.

I inadvertently drifted a bit too far right as he approached but moved left as soon as I saw him. He then misjudged his move left and pit maneuvered himself on my front panel. It all happened so fast though that I think it was just one of those unfortunate incidents.
Yeah, on his replay I see that he was losing traction avoiding you, so it was an inadvertent swerve that just ended badly. I can see why he was upset, but again it’s just, as you say, one of those unfortunate incidents.
 
Uhhhggggg...two bad races in Race C tonight. Both races were in stacked rooms and I knew I would be in over my skill level again.

Race 1 I'm in P7 to start with a streamer in the lobby I've raced before so I know they are quick and clean. Race starts good enough, but entering Brünnchen the streamer who saw climbing the field goes by as I go too deep. Another driver gets by me exiting
Galgenkopf as I go a bit wide and lose some speed. I decided to bump draft them to catch the streamer which works but I get the entry to the finish line all wrong and launch myself into the wall, and in a panic, can't get my car straight. Thanks to rage quits I finish P11. Oh, well.

Race 2 I'm in with two more streamers and am down in p11 to start. The streamer from the first race changed cars to a light purple Fate anime waifu Corvette which proves nothing but is really funny to me. I don't get far as either I hit this driver or they hit me as seen below. Two different points of view this time.





Looking at the first replay it seems that they rejoined as I went for the apex of the turn. Which would be a racing incident I think. But, from the replay from the car behind us, it looks like they hit some grass as they to rejoin and they launch into me which is still a racing incident but annoying that I got the worst of it. I could be also be wrong and I'm to blame for this and that's the case then so be it.

So yeah, my race was over real fast after that. On top of that I had a terrible time keeping it on track the rest of the race. I barely manage to cross the line before time ran out. I gain 1 spot from the driver who I had contact with and finish P15. I'll still having fun, I just had some bad luck tonight.
 
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