GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Well thanks to Kie the Mazda will be all over the grids tomorrow and probably be ubiquitous by the evening. You can get 6 laps flat out and probably 8 with heavy saving. Maybe half a second slower than the r8 but in race not an issue. Also loads of people have this car from pre order so nothing to lose.
The ft1 is my favourite car from sport so if I finish work early I have heeded the heckling and will try to tune it to be race worthy.
 
NikNakTobasco
Well thanks to Kie the Mazda will be all over the grids tomorrow and probably be ubiquitous by the evening. You can get 6 laps flat out and probably 8 with heavy saving. Maybe half a second slower than the r8 but in race not an issue. Also loads of people have this car from pre order so nothing to lose.
The ft1 is my favourite car from sport so if I finish work early I have heeded the heckling and will try to tune it to be race worthy.
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Sounds like I might need to work on my Mazda Vision tune then if that is the case. 😳
 
NikNakTobasco
Well thanks to Kie the Mazda will be all over the grids tomorrow and probably be ubiquitous by the evening. You can get 6 laps flat out and probably 8 with heavy saving. Maybe half a second slower than the r8 but in race not an issue. Also loads of people have this car from pre order so nothing to lose.
The ft1 is my favourite car from sport so if I finish work early I have heeded the heckling and will try to tune it to be race worthy.
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There is a tune for the Mazda by Harmonic in the tuning section on this forum that might work for some folks. He did a 1:44 and I managed a 1:48 which considering I am a talentless pleb on a controller ain't too shabby. So someone who isn't me and has skills might do well with it
 
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Quite a tough daily race c, that chicane is so lethal like damn. Almost like the american version of death chicane, without the walls 😈

Since my DR is like 48K, was being put to some really stacked lobbies. Race 1, started 15th, having done a 1.46.3 in qualifying with Huracan. Race started so well, up to p8-9 or so before pitting in on lap 5. But after that, it all went wrong. Did a bonehead move by changing tires and lost like 4-5 places after the pits. And then on top of that ended up accidentally bumping someone into T1 and got myself a 3 sec penalty. Yes the rustiness was clear.

Race 2, started P13 with Huracan again. Went too fast into chicane and had to slow down at apex, some idiot bumped me off from behind (bumped another car into my car) and I lost 10 seconds 🙈 Down to P17. But I refused to give up, really found a solid pace and made a comeback, with some chaos helping too slightly, also jumped like 3 drivers in the pits. In the end I finished 8th, over 8 sec from 6-7th. I take it, except for lap1 some fun racing. Best A/S driver as well. Miro and Pagandet took top2 spots. Huracan was a proper challenge to drive, fun too when I got the pace quite right.
 

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samppa_944
Quite a tough daily race c, that chicane is so lethal like damn. Almost like the american version of death chicane, without the walls 😈

Since my DR is like 48K, was being put to some really stacked lobbies. Race 1, started 15th, having done a 1.46.3 in qualifying with Huracan. Race started so well, up to p8-9 or so before pitting in on lap 5. But after that, it all went wrong. Did a bonehead move by changing tires and lost like 4-5 places after the pits. And then on top of that ended up accidentally bumping someone into T1 and got myself a 3 sec penalty. Yes the rustiness was clear.

Race 2, started P13 with Huracan again. Went too fast into chicane and had to slow down at apex, some idiot bumped me off from behind (bumped another car into my car) and I lost 10 seconds 🙈 Down to P17. But I refused to give up, really found a solid pace and made a comeback, with some chaos helping too slightly, also jumped like 3 drivers in the pits. In the end I finished 8th, over 8 sec from 6-7th. I take it, except for lap1 some fun racing. Best A/S driver as well. Miro and Pagandet took top2 spots. Huracan was a proper challenge to drive, fun too when I got the pace quite right.
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Where do you see your number driver rating?
 
Worst_Driver
In the last Race B, I tried the R32 and R34. I had a great quali time, but once came the straights I fell back. I’ll give Race C a try tonight, copying a tune for the meta car, the R8 by the looks of it, but I miss BoP and one make races that are determined by pure skill.

As I was saying, 2 races of each would satisfy both preferences.
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I appreciate that a lot of people are still obviously not aware of this, but that car that was blowing you away in the straights, the Peogeut VGT? It's bugged and is able to enter races with the equivalent of 500bhp because hybrids aren't effected properly by the restrictions.
Some cars are still definitely slightly faster than others due to differences in torque/power bands, but I promise you that as soon as they fix the bugs, tuned races will be just as close as BoP races are.
 
Pigems
I just remembered I had this, it’s kind of a beginners tuning guide to fine tuning your car. It’s from iRacing, but tuning is tuning, so it should still be relevant in GT7. :cheers:
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Ok, this chart helps a bit on what does what. I get the general concept of how make changes, but how does one go about making a tune that works? Is there a process or checklist of some type to follow? Or, is it trial and error based of my personal driving style and seeing what works?
 
Stilva
Ok, this chart helps a bit on what does what. I get the general concept of how make changes, but how does one go about making a tune that works? Is there a process or checklist of some type to follow? Or, is it trial and error based of my personal driving style and seeing what works?
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I’m sure everyone has their own methods, once you’ve done a few you’ll start to see the trends in what you like in a setup. Until then that chart is pretty helpful. In GT I’ll generally start with the stock car, and then just start tinkering from there. Just make sure to only make one change at a time, that way you know what the change did. If you make more then one adjustment at once, you won’t really know which one did what.
 
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@Pigems I got an even quicker method. Just search for a pro racer tune on youtube and copy the settings. For those who really can’t be bothered to tinker with all that. Worked great for me, I found setups for the Mini (Race A) and the R8 (Race C). When you’ve got limited time to race, you want to enjoy your time as much as possible.

@BenRod where are you man ? 😂 I did a couple of races A and didn’t see you one time. The legend of Race A has not yet arrived ?
 
Race C was really rough today in the lower splits. A lot of literal punts littered around the circuit. Sigh.

Race B was a little better except I had someone bump into me mid corner on the final long right hander into the front straight and it sent me onto the grass :)

There’s good racing here somewhere, but it’s hard to find. I should’ve just signed off once I got literally sandwiched at Daytona with both drivers driving into me from both sides on the oval.
 
Pigems
I’m sure everyone has their own methods, once you’ve done a few you’ll start to see the trends in what you like in a setup. Until then that chart is pretty helpful. In GT I’ll generally start with the stock car, and then just start tinkering from there. Just make sure to only make one change at a time, that way you know what the change did. If you make more then one adjustment at once, you won’t really know which one did what.
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Thanks for the advice with that. I'll try my hand at making some setups tomorrow and see what happens.
 
Just won 3 races in a row in daily race C at Daytona. Pole position, lead every lap, fastest lap, winning by 10+ seconds. Running in the low 1:46
 
football5699
Race C was really rough today in the lower splits. A lot of literal punts littered around the circuit. Sigh.

Race B was a little better except I had someone bump into me mid corner on the final long right hander into the front straight and it sent me onto the grass :)

There’s good racing here somewhere, but it’s hard to find. I should’ve just signed off once I got literally sandwiched at Daytona with both drivers driving into me from both sides on the oval.
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Not to discount there’s still a bit of blatant puntery going on but I think a lot of accidents are happening because people are adjusting fuel mix and get distracted and also don’t have a radar on screen. Took me about 4 races to get used to it to be honest
 
Worst_Driver
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Where are the A and A+ drivers in race A. In 3 races I’ve seen only 1 A and 1+. Come join us in the mini, its actually good fun. I found a tune online and once tuned up its quick as hell.
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Definitely can't be too many of you 'aliens' hanging around Race A because I'm a C rated driver and you ended up in one my races today!

As you say, the race is good fun although it seems to be another one make race with only minis at the moment (I am assuming the other two car choices need engine swaps to make them competitive).
 
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Worst_Driver
Where are the A and A+ drivers in race A. In 3 races I’ve seen only 1 A and 1+.
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I can't speak for the rest of them, but personally I have no desire to drive a POS car 50mph. I want to go FAST, I want to race, I want to have a sense of speed. I enjoy race cars that allow you to attack the track, and give leeway for alternate driving lines and techniques.

Just my personal opinion, but the slower the car the more the optimal line is forced upon everyone, or cars behind you will exploit their positioning and not allow you to back a corner up, or setup a pass etc. The slower the cars, the more aggressive people need to be in order to make a pass.

I've been sticking to Race C.
I can't get the R8 to do what other people can, my best is a 1:47.0xx with Reis tune.
I used Harmonica's Mazda tune and got down to 1:46.4xx.
But the Lambo still reigns supreme for my driving style and hit my personal best of 1:45.9xx tonight, and can consistently hit 46.3s.

Unfortunately I keep getting put in rooms with people running 44s, and tonight's 3rd was the best I could manage, but was sent immediately back to the main screen as soon as the race ended. Unsure if it even counted.
 
Since I'm still a B driver, I often have "easier" opponents and especially Race B on the Nürburgring GP course (which I actually don't like at all) suits me particularly well and it also shows how extreme the differences between the two are Cars can be if a "good" or a "bad" setup is used. In my groups, I often had the same driver who tried out different vehicles, he usually started behind me in 2nd or 3rd place, so he was able to get close to me and I could also keep an eye on him. In the last few races he even used the same car as me, but he couldn't catch me in any race, even though he was very close on the first lap and the first corners. But overall, a better vote is extremely important and decisive.
The bottom line is that an open setup and only one PP restriction is a fine thing, but it will obviously catch some players off guard. On the other hand.. if a player starts again, he shouldn't even notice it, he will eventually reach the area that corresponds to his skills as a "driver" and as a "technician" and will probably come to terms with it, since he is always against others will drive players who roughly match his ranking.

However, some "old hands" will be caught off guard if things stay the way they are and they are not able or willing to fall back on good setups from others.

But I think the critics who are active here in the forum and were against tuning vehicles now see that they can find a working setup very quickly and then basically have the same starting point as before with BoP... now they have even the possibility to change this good setup very carefully according to your own wishes and your own driving style.

A tip from me to those who are looking for other possible vehicles for the respective n routes and want to test them there. For me, it has always been helpful to take a close look at the "meta" car and then see which vehicles come closest to it. The most important thing for me was always the drive concept. So if you see that one MR or even 2-3 different MRs are in the top 10 this week, then it is obvious that this route is particularly well suited for MR vehicles. Only then do I evaluate engine performance and weight.
 
Adrenaline
I can't speak for the rest of them, but personally I have no desire to drive a POS car 50mph. I want to go FAST, I want to race, I want to have a sense of speed. I enjoy race cars that allow you to attack the track, and give leeway for alternate driving lines and techniques.

Just my personal opinion, but the slower the car the more the optimal line is forced upon everyone, or cars behind you will exploit their positioning and not allow you to back a corner up, or setup a pass etc. The slower the cars, the more aggressive people need to be in order to make a pass.

I've been sticking to Race C.
I can't get the R8 to do what other people can, my best is a 1:47.0xx with Reis tune.
I used Harmonica's Mazda tune and got down to 1:46.4xx.
But the Lambo still reigns supreme for my driving style and hit my personal best of 1:45.9xx tonight, and can consistently hit 46.3s.

Unfortunately I keep getting put in rooms with people running 44s, and tonight's 3rd was the best I could manage, but was sent immediately back to the main screen as soon as the race ended. Unsure if it even counted.
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My guess is that this might be the case for quite many. But hey, daily race a was a "success story" for me in GTS (over 50% of my wins from daily race a). Also the low powered car races were easy in FIA, since I have done a bunch of daily race A's, to better prepare. So you can all keep doing this, i don't mind at all 😎
 
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xMAXIx79
Since I'm still a B driver, I often have "easier" opponents and especially Race B on the Nürburgring GP course (which I actually don't like at all) suits me particularly well and it also shows how extreme the differences between the two are Cars can be if a "good" or a "bad" setup is used. In my groups, I often had the same driver who tried out different vehicles, he usually started behind me in 2nd or 3rd place, so he was able to get close to me and I could also keep an eye on him. In the last few races he even used the same car as me, but he couldn't catch me in any race, even though he was very close on the first lap and the first corners. But overall, a better vote is extremely important and decisive.
The bottom line is that an open setup and only one PP restriction is a fine thing, but it will obviously catch some players off guard. On the other hand.. if a player starts again, he shouldn't even notice it, he will eventually reach the area that corresponds to his skills as a "driver" and as a "technician" and will probably come to terms with it, since he is always against others will drive players who roughly match his ranking.

However, some "old hands" will be caught off guard if things stay the way they are and they are not able or willing to fall back on good setups from others.

But I think the critics who are active here in the forum and were against tuning vehicles now see that they can find a working setup very quickly and then basically have the same starting point as before with BoP... now they have even the possibility to change this good setup very carefully according to your own wishes and your own driving style.

A tip from me to those who are looking for other possible vehicles for the respective n routes and want to test them there. For me, it has always been helpful to take a close look at the "meta" car and then see which vehicles come closest to it. The most important thing for me was always the drive concept. So if you see that one MR or even 2-3 different MRs are in the top 10 this week, then it is obvious that this route is particularly well suited for MR vehicles. Only then do I evaluate engine performance and weight.
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Yes, this game requires a lot of practice and tuning, to be decent enough. But in the end it pays off, if you keep improving your driving and tune, as long as possible.

I was twice thrown into one of those tough lobbies, with like 60-70% players A+ and even some championship level esport lads yesterday in daily race c. But 2,5-3 hrs of preparations during the week, I was well prepared for the challenges, although my 1.46.3 meant starting 13-15th.

Despite making a mess of race 1 and being involved in an incident in race 2 that cost me 10 sec, still P8 somehow. That tells me quite a few drivers need to put a bunch more time into practice. That also includes me, Huracan was getting a bit too much tire wear on rear tires, despite using -4 or -5 brake bias. Race pace first half was 1.47.9-1.48.2. But yes I know not all have the same amount of time for practice, such is life.

I think there is maybe 1-2 tenths to find with Huracan in quali with my current driving, might need a few tweaks to setup? I noted that it would give me an additional 1-3 places on the grid.
 
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xMAXIx79
I think you should use more TCS--- as i know Rear Tires are under pressure more at acceleration as braking.
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Oh okay. Well thx for the suggestion. I can practice the gr3 cup race then in a riskfree environment, still have not done that in GT mode. Not used to using tcs, tcs 0 for me all the time. Tcs can feel unpredictable, but practice ought to sort it out.

I think it is either tcs 0 or 1 then.. Don't want to change mid-race in any case.

That or setup changes, make the car less oversteery in a separate race setup 🤔 I lost in total 2,5-3 sec the last 3 laps, comparing to first 7 laps yesterday.
 
Machinist757
Where do you see your number driver rating?
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AFAICT the new GT7 web API doesn't report raw DR/SR numbers, only the number of the DR/SR class you're in (e.g. 6/6 for A+/S. instead of 88123/99 like in GTS.) He probably knew the number from GT Sport. PDi didn't like strangers poking around their web services, I guess.
 
FYI for anyone on PS4/PS4 Pro having issues joining daily races; I mentioned yesterday that it completely freezes at race intro screen and forces you close application.
Be warned, because of that my SR has dropped from S to A.....and probably untold damage to DR.
Don't suppose PD will 'reimburse' that.
 
xMAXIx79
Why would SR decrease because if you can't race? That doesn't make any sense to me.
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Me neither bud, I knew my DR would take a hit, but was shocked last night when I looked at my stats in game and saw my SR FUBAR too. 😑

I don't think it's right at all that our DR or SR should take such massive hits for simply being disconnected either before during or after race.
 

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