GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Leon Kowalski]

I started 12th with a 1:39:5 and was up to 8th by the end of lap 2. Things were looking promising, just 0.2 behind P7 and P9 was 0.5 behind. And then...

He doesn't even brake for the final chicane, knocks me off and I get damage. He and 3 others get by and no penalty for him. As I'm going round the final turn, i get hit from the side, dude goes by and again, no penalty.

I catch up to the group and I'm P12. Overtake 2 and then get hit 4 times in the space of 8 seconds. Down to P14 now and again, zero penalties. I overtake one normally and another who had a 0.5 penalty for track limits.

Final lap and P12, at least will end race same position. Nope, side-swiped again, he goes on his merry way and I finish 13th. Cheers PD, i love you.

I put some time and now on a 1:39:0 time so should start in the 5 - 7 range next time and hopefully avoid the carnage...

I will most certainly avoid this race. Because... reasons.😬

 

[bone_tone]

OMG:

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Never thought that I could get there when I started online racing for the first time, three months ago.

Now it is time to learn driving.😆

3 months! I've been racing Gran Turismo for years, and am still nowhere near an A rating....

I keep seeing your (much faster) times, and then feel I ought to delete you from my friends list 😂 - no, perhaps not!

Seriously though, well done mate 👍

 

[Roggers]

I started 12th with a 1:39:5 and was up to 8th by the end of lap 2. Things were looking promising, just 0.2 behind P7 and P9 was 0.5 behind. And then...

He doesn't even brake for the final chicane, knocks me off and I get damage. He and 3 others get by and no penalty for him. As I'm going round the final turn, i get hit from the side, dude goes by and again, no penalty.

I catch up to the group and I'm P12. Overtake 2 and then get hit 4 times in the space of 8 seconds. Down to P14 now and again, zero penalties. I overtake one normally and another who had a 0.5 penalty for track limits.

Final lap and P12, at least will end race same position. Nope, side-swiped again, he goes on his merry way and I finish 13th. Cheers PD, i love you.

I put some time and now on a 1:39:0 time so should start in the 5 - 7 range next time and hopefully avoid the carnage...

Haha it’s just crazy out there. Was any of the contact to you mistakes or was it just people hitting each other on purpose? I know some said a few days ago that the Alpha brings out the worst in people and after what I saw today and what your saying it sounds true.

Have to say I actually really enjoy this track layout and I would race here all week, but the lack of penalties the way people are driving at the minute it’s putting me off racing there again.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Haha it’s just crazy out there. Was any of the contact to you mistakes or was it just people hitting each other on purpose? I know some said a few days ago that the Alpha brings out the worst in people and after what I saw today and what your saying it sounds true.

Have to say I actually really enjoy this track layout and I would race here all week, but the lack of penalties the way people are driving at the minute it’s putting me off racing there again.

Contacts definitely not due to mistakes....

 

[Leon Kowalski]

3 months! I've been racing Gran Turismo for years, and am still nowhere near an A rating....

I keep seeing your (much faster) times, and then feel I ought to delete you from my friends list 😂 - no, perhaps not!

Seriously though, well done mate 👍

Thanks a lot, mate!

I did some recalculation: actually it was four months.😅

That's the online racing stuff. My "normal" console/video game racing experience started almost forty years ago, until today, with some significant intermissions. Last one was GT6, which I played for half a year maybe, then stopped video gaming for good - at least that's what I was thinking, until my daughter was gifted a used PS4 and my son begged me to buy GT7.😆

Some honorable mentions along the way:
Super Monaco GP
Sega Rally
Colin Mc Rae Rally
TOCA
GT1 - 7

 

[r_epp]

cease and desist - i have quit Daily racing and am happily still in B.

Yeah nah. I've been hit so many times into the sand at Big Willow and subsequently rage quit which has actually dropped me to D. 😬

On the plus side, got to start on pole now and got a clean race, fastest lap and won.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Race A....

What's everyone's race time, roughly?

I got a 6.55 from pole today and very proud of the achievement!

I gave it another try. Started P3, finished P3, got involved in some minor unintentional contacts. Around 7:02 at the end. Could have been 2 or 3 seconds faster without the little incidents, but no way to get a 6:55. I'm not consistent enough over 4 laps.

 

[Mercia]

Not been involved in too many scrapes at Willow, just a couple of times getting shunted off track but otherwise people have settled into their starting places now. Similar to Brands in that way, once people are starting at their average speeds it's often a procession with positions picked up from those who have tried too hard and go off.

Hot lap qualifying would really help with these.

Hopeful for some changes in today's update, not expecting it though.

 

[Milouse]

@Milouse Have you figured out yet how to get the future daily race info, like nenkaai has?
I will come back to Kudosprime if you can get it.

I know how @Nenkai or @ddm and maybe a very few others got it. It's not something that can be discussed on gtp, i think. Anyway, i decided not to spend unreasonable energy in that field. So there is no plan regarding this on K'. Unless someone sends me those api links. I would then be able to build proper pages (events and leaderboards, probably even better than the ones on GTS K') if i have the time to do it.

 

[Mercia]

Well there we go 0 Sport updates at all this time round.

At least on the documented changes.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Hot lap qualifying would really help with these.

Absolutely. I had three races at Big Willow so far.
First one: Started P9, finished P9
Then, after some more qualifying laps
Second one: Started P3, finished P3
Third one: Started P5, finished P4

As long as everyone stays clean, yes it's more or less a procession. Still found it a bit nerve-wracking, because: one big mistake and you are mostly done.

 

[Nebuc72]

I'm presuming no changes to the penalty system, though they in the patchnotes last time?

At the very least, physics changes shall be interesting - apparently MR cars have seen a big improvement though I am yet to test.

Edit:

I have tested them now. They are insanely different. I think it will be very divisive as to whether or not people like the way they handle or not, if you were used to the old physics it's essentially a different car. It's gone from mid corner oversteer/sliding to just pure understeer all the way through. It grips, but it's like steering a tugboat. Very interesting, though I do think they are faster now.

 

[xMAXIx79]

I'm presuming no changes to the penalty system, though they in the patchnotes last time?

At the very least, physics changes shall be interesting - apparently MR cars have seen a big improvement though I am yet to test.

Edit:

I have tested them now. They are insanely different. I think it will be very divisive as to whether or not people like the way they handle or not, if you were used to the old physics it's essentially a different car. It's gone from mid corner oversteer/sliding to just pure understeer all the way through. It grips, but it's like steering a tugboat. Very interesting, though I do think they are faster now.

Damn... I just hope that they didn't just change that on all MR vehicles... otherwise "my darling" will now be undriveable.

 

[Fezzik]

I'm presuming no changes to the penalty system, though they in the patchnotes last time?

At the very least, physics changes shall be interesting - apparently MR cars have seen a big improvement though I am yet to test.

Edit:

I have tested them now. They are insanely different. I think it will be very divisive as to whether or not people like the way they handle or not, if you were used to the old physics it's essentially a different car. It's gone from mid corner oversteer/sliding to just pure understeer all the way through. It grips, but it's like steering a tugboat. Very interesting, though I do think they are faster now.

That sounds like they're a bit more predictable now at least, which is some improvement. Will have to test a bit but my lovely 458 and NSX may be coming out of gr.3 retirement.

 

[OJBrit]

The player in the 155 had a disliking to the GTR been P1 so took matter into own hands 3 times. 1 time they got a penalty but the next two time they got away with no penalty. This just show PD need to have a think about the penalty system.

Race 1 highlights, and thoughts on the carnage.

I'm not going to defend the way they went nuclear on the Austrian but the Austrian was pulling dirty moves by weaving down the straight constantly. This is what he was taking umbridge to and decided to personally ruin both their races because of it. If the Austrian had raced fairly then they may well have had a good race to the end.

 

[Talon16]

I'm presuming no changes to the penalty system, though they in the patchnotes last time?

At the very least, physics changes shall be interesting - apparently MR cars have seen a big improvement though I am yet to test.

Edit:

I have tested them now. They are insanely different. I think it will be very divisive as to whether or not people like the way they handle or not, if you were used to the old physics it's essentially a different car. It's gone from mid corner oversteer/sliding to just pure understeer all the way through. It grips, but it's like steering a tugboat. Very interesting, though I do think they are faster now.

I am so tired of the understeer on these cars. Specifically when BoP is applied. Snap oversteer was an "issue" when the game dropped... their knee jerk reaction to fix it was make most everything drive like the front tires are made of ice. Add dirty air and it's 10x worse.

That's why I liked and got along with the Ford GT LM II so well; yes, it understeers like crazy but with the proper steering and braking inputs the rotation of the car was perfect. You'd get the worst of both worlds: the MR mid-corner oversteer and FR understeer; but, if you do it right they cancel each other out.

The Gr4 cars are the worst, and the ones that aren't too bad aren't competitive.

 

[JDM_GT7]

I'm presuming no changes to the penalty system, though they in the patchnotes last time?

At the very least, physics changes shall be interesting - apparently MR cars have seen a big improvement though I am yet to test.

Edit:

I have tested them now. They are insanely different. I think it will be very divisive as to whether or not people like the way they handle or not, if you were used to the old physics it's essentially a different car. It's gone from mid corner oversteer/sliding to just pure understeer all the way through. It grips, but it's like steering a tugboat. Very interesting, though I do think they are faster now.

are you on wheel or controller?

I am on wheel and the cars seem easier to find and then back of from the limit. MR and RR car are actually going to be competitive in Sport mode finally. I just got a 1:39:6 in a BOP Gr4 NSX in like 5 laps.

 

[xMAXIx79]

I'm not going to defend the way they went nuclear on the Austrian but the Austrian was pulling dirty moves by weaving down the straight constantly. This is what he was taking umbridge to and decided to personally ruin both their races because of it. If the Austrian had raced fairly then they may well have had a good race to the end.

I absolutely do NOT agree with you, there is no justification for these drivers for their maneuvers, all of them were disproportionate even the Spaniard who pushed the driver to the right, first into the guardrail and then out of the multiple curves. The contact wasn't hard, but still absolutely unsportsmanlike, just because the Spaniard wanted to stay in the slipstream. No such drivers should get 1 week ban from online races as first warning then 2 then 4 weeks. But no, when driving you can behave like the last person and there are no real consequences. I've got a head start as it's very often the very Alfa drivers who do such unfair things... And the "weaving" of the GT-R...yes it's not pretty...BUT the GT-R is at this track in the race inferior to the Alfa and can only gain some distance on these straights.. if he doesn't try this nasty Alfa stays behind and jabs inwards in the braking zones with no real chance for the GT-R.

 

[Nebuc72]

are you on wheel or controller?

I am on wheel and the cars seem easier to find and then back of from the limit. MR and RR car are actually going to be competitive in Sport mode finally. I just got a 1:39:6 in a BOP Gr4 NSX in like 5 laps.

I am on controller. They are definitely all around better, and I think will be fine for everyone once you get used to them, but its trippy going from oversteer city to understeer on entry.

 

[Mercia]

Well at least you get to don the suit in Scapes too

Very fetching I must say 😉

 

[dimassa19]

Well at least you get to don the suit in Scapes too

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Very fetching I must say 😉

Nice composition.

 

[sturk0167]

I think I've had some pretty good luck at Willows Springs, so far. I've probably done about 15 races without going off the track once (jinx). Nobody has raced me dirty or pissed me off at all. I did, however, accidentally punt another driver at the turn 3 braking zone. I stopped to wait for him, and took my 15th place finish.
Overall, it's been fun and enjoyable.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

I think I've had some pretty good luck at Willows Springs, so far. I've probably done about 15 races without going off the track once (jinx). Nobody has raced me dirty or pissed me off at all. I did, however, accidentally punt another driver at the turn 3 braking zone. I stopped to wait for him, and took my 15th place finish.
Overall, it's been fun and enjoyable.

Same here, but only for three races so far.

BTW you and some of the guys here are using the M6, right? Is it just me or has it less grip after the update? I went for some quali laps to warm up for some more races, and had some serious sliding going on on acceleration. Even had a powerslide around almost complete T2. Can't get within half a second above my best lap. What's your experience?

 

[Mercia]

Same here, but only for three races so far.

BTW you and some of the guys here are using the M6, right? Is it just me or has it less grip after the update? I went for some quali laps to warm up for some more races, and had some serious sliding going on on acceleration. Even had a powerslide around almost complete T2. Can't get within half a second above my best lap. What's your experience?

It seemed fine until I hit the middle sector, then turning into the uphill section it was sliding around for sure when it was planted before. Can no longer put the power down going back downhill, it want's to squirrel away from you. Probably for the best as it was way too stable, perhaps another meta to emerge this week?

 

[Leon Kowalski]

It seemed fine until I hit the middle sector, then turning into the uphill section it was sliding around for sure when it was planted before. Can no longer put the power down going back downhill, it want's to squirrel away from you. Probably for the best as it was way too stable, perhaps another meta to emerge this week?

Yes, exactly how it felt for me, too.

And, as if to make fun of my previous post, in my next race I got forced off track in T1 by some idiot even though I left him all the space on the inside. Finished last. Two more races like this, and I'm back in DR B, where I probably belong.🤬

 

[Mercia]

Yes, exactly how it felt for me, too.

And, as if to make fun of my previous post, in my next race I got forced off track in T1 by some idiot even though I left him all the space on the inside. Finished last. Two more races like this, and I'm back in DR B, where I probably belong.🤬

IT's no longer a procession at least with everyone struggling to hold on to it now

 

[Talon16]

Z28 is doing a stream and using some of the MR cars in B and has good things to say about them. Fingers crossed.

 

[alejandroivx]

I have been using the McLaren all week and logged in over lunch to run some quali laps and I noticed that there was less oversteer for sure, and that actually made it less fun. Also slightly less grip at times. Probably more stable overall but unfortunately I had developed the muscle memory with that car as it was so I have to relearn it, or possibly switch?

For context, I’m using a wheel and only about a month in so everything is a little more difficult for me when it comes to finding the limits.

 

[sturk0167]

BTW you and some of the guys here are using the M6, right? Is it just me or has it less grip after the update? I went for some quali laps to warm up for some more races, and had some serious sliding going on on acceleration. Even had a powerslide around almost complete T2. Can't get within half a second above my best lap. What's your experience?

No. It feels fine to me. I lowered the Q time for both of my accounts today.

Something that has occurred to me though, is that qualifying times are really important at the Willow race because it's hard to pass. The track doesn't have any slam hard on the brakes type of turns.
I never really spent any time talking about, or thinking about dirty air. Here's what I've noticed at Big Willow:
Being in someone's slipstream on corner entry means you're entering faster than normal, and will go wide if you don't compensate. Also, even if you match their speed through the turn, in the slip you won't be able to corner as well, because you'll have less front downforce.

So, even if the driver behind you is faster, you can hold position just because of the aerodynamics. So, spend a bit of extra time on qualifying to start ahead of as many people as possible.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

IT's no longer a procession at least with everyone struggling to hold on to it now

No, it's obviously not. Do I sense a hint of sarcasm here? 😆
But there were four A+ drivers in the race, so obviously not only desperate low A rated drivers like me. My first race in DR A my starting position had been 5, but this time it was P10.

No. It feels fine to me. I lowered the Q time for both of my accounts today.

Something that has occurred to me though, is that qualifying times are really important at the Willow race because it's hard to pass. The track doesn't have any slam hard on the brakes type of turns.
I never really spent any time talking about, or thinking about dirty air. Here's what I've noticed at Big Willow:
Being in someone's slipstream on corner entry means you're entering faster than normal, and will go wide if you don't compensate. Also, even if you match their speed through the turn, in the slip you won't be able to corner as well, because you'll have less front downforce.

So, even if the driver behind you is faster, you can hold position just because of the aerodynamics. So, spend a bit of extra time on qualifying to start ahead of as many people as possible.

Thanks for the advice, mate. Yes, that's what I've been doing, and my starting positions had been decent. Except last race, and it only went downhill from there.

I think I'll stop racing Big Willow. I like it, but a track excursion automatically means last place here. Can't afford that right now...😆