GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I worked all day yesterday on tunes for a Hellcat and the GT-R Nismo, only to discover that at 1:21.xxx I was way (WAY) off the pace of the meta Cappuccino. I'll eventually do that tune I guess, but I decided to go back to a weirdly overpowered Mini Cooper tune (with the Civic swap) I used for the Alsace Human Comedy mission a while back. Basically, the tires squeel with the rolling start and all the way to 5th gear! I'm burning out in 5th gear! This car could be so awesome but I can't get the tires to stick enough to get speed! It's a hilarious problem to have, really. Once I let off the throttle I get some grip, but also some speed. And it handles like a can that was kicked down the chute on that freeway, bouncing back and forth between the walls. A accrued 9 seconds of penalties before I even got to the starting line on qualification!

So, back to the drawing board. I want a non-meta car but I don't know what will work. I'll keep digging, but this is clearly going to be a circus of engine swaps. I hope that some other cars start to prove themselves. Anybody else have any ideas?


I was looking at that one myself. What's your pace in it?
I personally used the Alpine VGT to decent success which is FAR from a meta choice but is still a fun, stable and consistent vehicle to use! And also nailing my 5th Sport Mode victory!
 

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So, back to the drawing board. I want a non-meta car but I don't know what will work. I'll keep digging, but this is clearly going to be a circus of engine swaps. I hope that some other cars start to prove themselves. Anybody else have any ideas?

It's a strange race with a strange assortment of cars, really. I used Mopars Audi tune, and though it's not really fun to drive, I got to a decent spot in the quali rankings, somewhere in the seventies at that moment. But over seven(!) seconds slower than the leaders with the crazy Cappucinos. I tried that one, too, and don't have the slightest idea how anybody can keep that thing on the track without hitting the walls left and right.

So finally I turned to the half-OP car: the Aston VGT DP-whatever. It's much more fun to drive, feels smooth around the left-right combos and on acceleration out of the turns. Managed to improve my previous best by half a second, P98 when I checked last time, but still more than six seconds behind the leader...
 
thanks once again! did the race a tuning work for you? are you happy with your car? i am asking as i think to copy your settings in this nice Aston Martin
There's better cars to use for it, but you can't tune the Aston Martin much but it did ok as per video :)
 
Starting in again on Trial Mountain. I'm doing OK, but I've always had problems with this track, because I just don't understand the physics of some of the turns - in other words, what I should be trying to do to get maximum effect.

For example, the section before you start up the long hill. I can't figure out how best to approach the turn, the best way to initiate the turn (I assume bake & downshift, then upshift?), and when to accelerate during the turn.

Near the end, when you drop down that short, steep hill and make the quick left, I'm not sure when and how much to brake, etc.

And of course, the final turns. I kind-of understand the concept, where I want to be going slow enough around the left-hand turn so I can get near the left-hand side before taking the right-hand turn. But I just don't understand how various approaches affect the lap time and the speed exiting the corner. Sigh.

I'll keep plugging away at it. I guess I just needed to vent.
 
Starting in again on Trial Mountain. I'm doing OK, but I've always had problems with this track, because I just don't understand the physics of some of the turns - in other words, what I should be trying to do to get maximum effect.

For example, the section before you start up the long hill. I can't figure out how best to approach the turn, the best way to initiate the turn (I assume bake & downshift, then upshift?), and when to accelerate during the turn.

Near the end, when you drop down that short, steep hill and make the quick left, I'm not sure when and how much to brake, etc.

And of course, the final turns. I kind-of understand the concept, where I want to be going slow enough around the left-hand turn so I can get near the left-hand side before taking the right-hand turn. But I just don't understand how various approaches affect the lap time and the speed exiting the corner. Sigh.

I'll keep plugging away at it. I guess I just needed to vent.
I still rely on track guides and even go so far as to make cheat sheets to review the brake marker, speed, and gear. This gives me a good starting point until I have a feel for the track. Hope this helps.
 
Starting in again on Trial Mountain. I'm doing OK, but I've always had problems with this track, because I just don't understand the physics of some of the turns - in other words, what I should be trying to do to get maximum effect.

For example, the section before you start up the long hill. I can't figure out how best to approach the turn, the best way to initiate the turn (I assume bake & downshift, then upshift?), and when to accelerate during the turn.

Near the end, when you drop down that short, steep hill and make the quick left, I'm not sure when and how much to brake, etc.

And of course, the final turns. I kind-of understand the concept, where I want to be going slow enough around the left-hand turn so I can get near the left-hand side before taking the right-hand turn. But I just don't understand how various approaches affect the lap time and the speed exiting the corner. Sigh.

I'll keep plugging away at it. I guess I just needed to vent.
I'd recommend watching a track guide. I am a fan of Digit's.

 
Starting in again on Trial Mountain. I'm doing OK, but I've always had problems with this track, because I just don't understand the physics of some of the turns - in other words, what I should be trying to do to get maximum effect.

For example, the section before you start up the long hill. I can't figure out how best to approach the turn, the best way to initiate the turn (I assume bake & downshift, then upshift?), and when to accelerate during the turn.

Near the end, when you drop down that short, steep hill and make the quick left, I'm not sure when and how much to brake, etc.

And of course, the final turns. I kind-of understand the concept, where I want to be going slow enough around the left-hand turn so I can get near the left-hand side before taking the right-hand turn. But I just don't understand how various approaches affect the lap time and the speed exiting the corner. Sigh.

I'll keep plugging away at it. I guess I just needed to vent.
here's what I do. Note: I am not super successful

I brake slightly/lift off the accelerator into the first bend after the start/finish straight. This allows me to get the car to the inside of the bend and then basically straight shot into the first major corner (T3 I think it is).
Into that corner I brake enough to make the corner but swing very wide into the tunnel, then brake again.

I hate the middle section and I'm bad at it.

Down the mountain into the hard braking zone for the hairpin left I usually brake when the outside curbing appears. I brake down to about 80ish and take the corner at that speed, then accelerate out of it.

Trial Mountain can be tricky, my recommendation would be to just run qualifying laps for a while, not in the lobby itself, and get used to different lines to find your speed. I know, boring :)
 
Going to be racing at Trial Mountain as I had a win last time there was a daily race here (well, in Gr.4) and I had a decent showing in the GTWS with the GR.3 cars. I'm in the Mustang as I saw a few on the leader boards. The first few laps of practice were a struggle as I had a heck of a time keeping the car under control. I got the hang of it and set a time which I forgot and was later beaten. I then tried the RSR, but I would lose control with the car at the turn with the stump brake marker. I felt way slower with it somehow even though it felt great in the corners, but I couldn't make it work. At the end of my practice session I ended with a qualifying time of 1:52.019. I need to clean up my lines a bit more as I'm leaving a bunch of time on the track.
 
Good lord Race B is a cluster. Man it’s bumper cars out there
ikr!?
I just ran one for funzies, qualified 3rd from last, and at one point (before a wall penalty and damage slowed me down) I was up to 5th and I only had to pass one driver on track.
I think for the first couple days we're going to be able to sneak podium results just via attrition.

Running the RSR b/c it's as stable as nailed down 2x4 and you can just nail the accelerator out of the corners. I'm having troubles rotating through the last chicane but I'm sure that's b/c "automatic and a pad" lol
 
ikr!?
I just ran one for funzies, qualified 3rd from last, and at one point (before a wall penalty and damage slowed me down) I was up to 5th and I only had to pass one driver on track.
I think for the first couple days we're going to be able to sneak podium results just via attrition.

Running the RSR b/c it's as stable as nailed down 2x4 and you can just nail the accelerator out of the corners. I'm having troubles rotating through the last chicane but I'm sure that's b/c "automatic and a pad" lol
Dude was all over the place in my race. I let him get the best of me, and I exacted some revenge. Sadly, I remembered why I don’t do that and had an attempted pit maneuver that wrecked me pretty good. I just don’t understand why folks feel like that’s “driving.”
 
Is anyone else seeing an increase in the number of lobbies that are crashing since the last update? I’ve now had 3 in 3 days where it hangs without a countdown at warmup before disconnecting everybody and throwing an error. I’m forlornly hoping that these errors get reported so that PD can see how much they’ve effed up.
 
No but to me gt7 has never been as stable as gt sport.

I predictably struggled at trial mountain, my driving style doesn't gel with the track. I prefer cars with a solid rear end so tried a few and managed a 52.4 in the Z4 of all things. Optimal was a 52.1 in the Porsche, I feel about 3/4 second off thebpace, maybe a full second.

In the race I ran with the supra, man does it have some top end. My pace was solid, low 13s, so maybe there is hope.
 
I think the Cappuccino needs roulette only parts that I don't have to be fast in race A. I tried the engine swapped Silvia Qs and it's good but my same Audi was better. It sucks that luck is required to be competitive especially when it's at my best track. Unless a new glitched car meta arrives, I'm taking the rest of this week off.
 
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Yes, last time I checked it was 70 (borrowed?) red Alfas in the top 100.🥳
I'm one of those I'm afraid :rolleyes:
First time I've driven the Alfa - quite impressed by the handling, you can get on the power so early coming out of corners with virtually no understeer at all....
 
:D

I'd just like to see at least some different liveries there.

I don't know if it's a "problem" in the races, though. As far as I know you can't do a one-stopper with the Alfa, can you?
I've only done one race, I ran the WRX because I'd heard it was a good option on fuel - it was an entire A+ lobby - 14 WRX's and 2 Alfas - everybody apart from 1 person did a no stop - one of the Alfa's won - Kie was in the lobby in a WRX and finished 7th IIRC.
 
Is your last name Hamilton? You're always gibbering how bad the cars are whilst you disappear off into the distance at a rate of knots.
Not this week. I’m half a second off the people I was level with at Bathurst. Back to reality! Top 7 starting in the 49s last night.
 
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this week's races are ok ! quite entertaining! the bad thing for me personally is that i drive with a controller and i have a significant disadvantage compare with others - my DR is B+ and my SR is A , so I think i match with players who use wheeling steers and i cannot compete them for a win. At least i earn the top5 positions and sometimes i am in the podium
 
this week's races are ok ! quite entertaining! the bad thing for me personally is that i drive with a controller and i have a significant disadvantage compare with others - my DR is B+ and my SR is A , so I think i match with players who use wheeling steers and i cannot compete them for a win. At least i earn the top5 positions and sometimes i am in the podium
Wheel and controller is very balanced in GT7 - it's not much of a disadvantage at all, it will help with tyre wear but the pace across one lap is honestly identical, you can be just as fast with both.

People qualified for the GTWS finals on controller, which says it all really. I'm using controller too and am comfortably A+ DR as well, and was like the 6th or 7th highest rated Jaguar driver for the manufacturer series.

Don't get disheartened about using a controller, basically. Your mindset there will be the only thing holding you back.
 
Wouldn't surprise me if they are doing it to see exactly where the PP system is broken. Wouldn't be the first time they use a tuning race as a test bed.
I think your “test bed” theory is correct. They changed the wall penalties and then gave us the two tracks that beg for wall abuse, Tokyo Central and Trial Mountain. I suspect they’re collecting data.

Here’s the thing I find interesting: I suggested a few weeks ago that they change the penalty algorithm to penalize the amount of time you contact the wall as well as the intensity, rather than a blanket penalty for all contact. That seems to be exactly what they’ve done, and as far as I can tell so far it is working. I’ve contacted the wall in Tokyo many times this week, but only longer contact and direct hits get penalties. The slight rubs don’t seem to be getting any penalties. And I only got damage a couple times with blatant rams into the walls.

Maybe (just maybe) they finally have this figured out?

I think the Cappuccino needs roulette only parts that I don't have to be fast in race A. I tried the engine swapped Silvia Qs and it's good but my same Audi was better. It sucks that luck is required to be competitive especially when it's at my best track. Unless a new glitched car meta arrives, I'm taking the rest of this week off.
That’s too bad. I’m feeling the same way as well. I’m having fun tuning, but it feels like there’s no way I can be competitive without the special parts.

You’re number 1 on my friends list still. I don’t think you’re struggling compared to us mortals.
Hey, I hear that even Atlas shrugged . . .
 
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Wheel and controller is very balanced in GT7 - it's not much of a disadvantage at all, it will help with tyre wear but the pace across one lap is honestly identical, you can be just as fast with both.

People qualified for the GTWS finals on controller, which says it all really. I'm using controller too and am comfortably A+ DR as well, and was like the 6th or 7th highest rated Jaguar driver for the manufacturer series.

Don't get disheartened about using a controller, basically. Your mindset there will be the only thing holding you back.
thanks a lot for your encouranging words! i keep going and i really enjoy the game! you never know, I may find you on the track one day
 
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