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Has the Lago Maggiore bug been mentioned before, dunno if it's just appeared in 1.23 but anyway.......Just before the double right hander near the end of the lap (roughly where you'd get your last split time) there is a lay-by if you turn into it and stop facing the wall/barrier, put your foot on the brake and rev the car out it jumps you from there to just before the start line. If you get it right you can knock 10 secs off your laptime.

As you can see from from post above I've known about this Lago Maggiore glitch for over a month. I'm just amazed it's possible in an actual daily race. And just to be clear I've not used it to set a time in Race B this week or in the race.
 
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Been enjoying Spa with the RX Concept and have gotten my time down to a 2:16.8 and have been flummoxed by trying a few other cars there. I cannot, for the life of me, navigate the 911/R8/Ford GT through the chicane without spinning out. Is this an issue for all rear engine cars? I have tried over and over again and end up spinning out or just doing it so slowly I'll end up losing anyway if I try. They also spin out at the hairpin. I've seen someone with the GT on the leaderboards though. Is there a trick I'm missing?
 
Needless to say, Race A is broken. Honestly I have to say that this is more broken than it has ever been and there will be a lot more proof coming in various forms.

I already spent over 6 million credits for a new Decades Challenge so I can't make myself not do that but I can say with more confidence than ever that I'm done with trying to be competitive and patient this week.
 
First GT7 win, at the 50th race!
Kept it clean the whole race while others got wall penalties.

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50 starts 🏁
1 win 🏆
26 top five finishes 🏎

Shout out to @sturk0167 for help with tuning!
 
Been enjoying Spa with the RX Concept and have gotten my time down to a 2:16.8 and have been flummoxed by trying a few other cars there. I cannot, for the life of me, navigate the 911/R8/Ford GT through the chicane without spinning out. Is this an issue for all rear engine cars? I have tried over and over again and end up spinning out or just doing it so slowly I'll end up losing anyway if I try. They also spin out at the hairpin. I've seen someone with the GT on the leaderboards though. Is there a trick I'm missing?
The simple answer is you just have to turn less.
 
Needless to say, Race A is broken. Honestly I have to say that this is more broken than it has ever been and there will be a lot more proof coming in various forms.

I already spent over 6 million credits for a new Decades Challenge so I can't make myself not do that but I can say with more confidence than ever that I'm done with trying to be competitive and patient this week.


Yeah, I saw that same thing happening in the only race I participated in yesterday (by mistake, I just wanted to do qualifying laps but hit the wrong button 🤪): One guy slammed another one into the wall without any braking effort at all, and the victim got a five second penalty, lost an least five places and had heavy damage on top. The guy who had thrown the bomb drove on like nothing had happened.

On the other hand, driving around there is quite fun, especially with the Cayman. Thanks to @sturk0167 's great tune (99%) and some tiny improvements in my driving abilities (1%) I've appeared in the top 50 qualifiers several times (2:04:8xx at the moment). Maybe I'll stay with hotlapping this week...
 
Daily race A has been really working out for me this week. Yesterday back to back wins from pole 🥳 And in two different cars (Cayman GT4 and F50), first time I've done that in the same daily race week for the week.

Did one daily race C. Should have started P7 with my quali time 2.15.4. Instead there were loading issues in the lobby when timer went to 0 and in the cutscreen just before the race. Eventually the race got started (after 10 minutes or so?), and there were only me and another player. And that player had basically almost given up, since they were not doing anything when the race started, for like 30-40 seconds. So an easy 'fake win' 😁

Maybe giving Daily race A a few more tries, and doing Daily C once or twice in an actual race.
 

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Hi... seems that my driving style eats my tires as hell.. I did a 2:14:456 in Race C with the SSS but can't manage to have softs to stay for 4 laps in the race.

Does anybody have some good tipps or strategies what to do to save tires?

Cheers
 
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Needless to say, Race A is broken. Honestly I have to say that this is more broken than it has ever been and there will be a lot more proof coming in various forms.
I already spent over 6 million credits for a new Decades Challenge so I can't make myself not do that but I can say with more confidence than ever that I'm done with trying to be competitive and patient this week.
Not the Race that is broken. Most of this type of “breakage” are the direct result of the ”drivers” behind.

BTW….this type of “breakage” has been commonplace in Races B & C for quite some time. :indiff:
 
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Not the Race that is broken. Most of this type of “breakage” are the direct result of the ”drivers” behind.

BTW….this type of “breakage” has been commonplace in Races B & C for quite some time. :indiff:
I just tried a race. Started from pole, but with a downforce tuning to have more control in the twisty parts. Fell to second place, was chasing the F40 on P1. Avoided the carnage in the double right hander twice, but in lap 3 I got smashed into the wall twice by an obviously high-speed tuned Cayman coming from behind, and trying to catch my slide, I hit the wall again a third time. 15 seconds penalty for me, nothing for him. Just plain ridiculous.
 
Does anybody have some good tipps or strategies what to do to save tires?
I think it depends which car you are using. Yesterday I was able to do 5S/3M in the WRX, but last lap on softs is bit risky, easy to make mistake. Last race I did 3M/5S and it was better.
 
Try turning on the line, and follow it religiously (as fast as you can). I tis not perfect but Spa is very line dependent. Other broad tips.........


spa-track-map.jpg

  • Don't brake too hard into LaSource, try to carry more speed and get on the throttle earlier rather than hard brake, pivot then throttle
  • Les Combes sequence, there's a LOT of time here. So end of Kemmel, take the right as per the line then sacrifice some time through the left hander and prioritise getting on the throttle for Malmedy
  • I stink through turn 11, but you MUST clip the apex
  • TIGHT line through 13 and 14
  • Stavelot (15) is the most important turn on the track, there is a SECOND to be had. Get on the throttle as early as you dare AND DO NOT LIFT until the turn 19 chicane. If you lift, you've messed up your line.
  • Brake earlyish for 19, sacrifice 19 for speed and exit through 20. TBH on a qualy lap it's the opposite as speed at end of straight is irrelevant.
  • MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON SOFTS!
Thanks for this! It helped me track down a couple of spots where I needed help.
Thinking on tanking my DR to try to get a better run at improving my DR overall, any ideas / comments
I’m not sure what you mean here. If you mean sacrifice your DR in order to improve your SR, then yes, it’s worth it (see below). If you mean, as you wrote, ranking your DR to improve your DR, I don’t think that’s not going to work. The only way to improve your DR is to improve your DR.
Yea, I had that in mind but that's admitting defeat basically. Can't do it. Not this week when I'm suddenly fast.
I'll ride this through and what happens - happens, it's not the end of the world.
It’s not admitting defeat, it’s a clear strategic decision. The main problems I’ve had when I lost SR but just plowed straight ahead is that once I get into a lower lobby with lower SR drivers, they play like it’s bumper cars and I lose more SR. This sort of death spiral can only be avoided by racing from the back a couple of times and moving my SR back up. If you truly are faster this week, then sacrifice a couple of races to get back to the cleaner lobbies, and then you’ll get your DR back in no time. It’s not always about “git gud” no matter what. Sometimes you have to let off the accelerator to get a better approach. YMMV. I hope you get back to where you want to be. Let us know how it goes!
Hi... seems that my driving style eats my tires as hell.. I did a 2:14:456 in Race C with the SSS but can't manage to have softs to stay for 4 laps in the race.

Does anybody have some good tipps or strategies what to do to save tires?

Cheers
I think that the only answer is to race differently than you qualify. You’ll need to let up in the curvy bits so you don’t slide as much. Avoid getting in the middle of a scrum because that kills tires too. I discovered at one point that if I draft people but don’t fight tooth and nail for every inch, I was able to add an entire lap to my RS stint! It blew my mind when I pulled five laps in one of my early tries. Anyway, just a little less aggression will save the tires.

Also, reconsider your basic strategy: I’m not sure if you start RM or RS, but there are benefits and trade offs for each. For example, with a quali time like that I’m guessing you start towards the front. If you start on RS you could pull away from the pack and create some space so you don’t have to tear the tires up as much. But the car is heavier at the beginning of the race, so the tires take more abuse. Or you could start on RM and run the hell out of them early, and then switch to RS when you’ve burned some fuel and lost some weight. Have fun playing with the strategies, but the short answer is you’ll have to let up a bit on the corners to save your tires.
 
Nahhhhh you're missing something, that is a long way off based on your pace at other tracks. I personally love the track, each corner flows so nicely.

So tried C last night and yeah, not digging the tyre wear. Managed a 15.3 in qualy which seems competitive but the Supra EATS front tyres in the race, the Nissan is far better in that respect. Spun in my first two races, the kerbs are slippery if you hammer the throttle, then won my 3rd race.
I haven't tried Spa this week but I was about the same off pace as you on GT Sport there. Never did figure out why.
I haven't been on this week yet. But my relative pace the last few months has really been poor. I seemed to have stood still whilst others have moved onwards. I'm probably down at least 5K on my GTS rating as I am now low B looking over my shoulder rather than the potential to knock on A at the end of GTS. Unfortunately I don't have much time to dedicate to crunching laps or anything so most of my time goes into either a quick daily or 2, or the single player game. (Of which I am equally slow in)
At Red Bull Ring Short Track, what's the best way to handle when someone tries to take the inside at T1? I don't have video for my first encounter with this, but suffice it to say that it didn't end well for me.

The next time it happened, I don't like the guy who tried it, so I tried to crowd him off the track (my bad), and although nobody got hurt, I lost a couple of positions (probably deservedly):


The next lap I tried it myself, just to experience it from the other side. I tried to give him room, and we both avoided any significant damage or penalties. Still, it's not something I would do from here on out, unless there were extenuating circumstances.


The other thing I tried was just giving up the position to the guy on the inside, but that meant I had to slow down some through T1, and the guy behind me rammed me (I don't blame him - he was focusing on the apex and didn't expect some idiot to slow down in front of thim).

So how do you guys handle this?

For me they seemed to have too much pace into that corner. Let them go deep and Old Switcheroo underneath them.
 
Let them go deep and Old Switcheroo underneath them.
Thanks. That only works if there's nobody close behind. If there is, they ram into me because I'm going slower that they expect. And if you get rammed from behind on that turn, kiss your butt race goodbye.
 
I'd focus on like 3 areas: Get La Source (T1) right. Get 3-4-5 flat out. Get the entry and exit to the chicane that ends the lap right. Those are the biggest trouble spots on the lap
Everyone underestimates turn 15. You need to start high on the kerb on the left and get on the throttle even before the apex if on softs in qualy. You're then full throttle allllllllllllllllllllllllllllllll the way to the final chicane. This is the sneakiest place to gain time as most people lift through 15 and focus on 16, which is a tricky flat right hander... it distracts them, you need to nail both 15 and 16.
Been enjoying Spa with the RX Concept and have gotten my time down to a 2:16.8 and have been flummoxed by trying a few other cars there. I cannot, for the life of me, navigate the 911/R8/Ford GT through the chicane without spinning out. Is this an issue for all rear engine cars? I have tried over and over again and end up spinning out or just doing it so slowly I'll end up losing anyway if I try. They also spin out at the hairpin. I've seen someone with the GT on the leaderboards though. Is there a trick I'm missing?
Yes Tidgney noted all MR cars are sort of glitched at Spa.

Had an interesting night, being matched in the second split (SR is A not S you see) means I am competitive and fighting for wins, my DR is within sight of A+ which is a bit hilarious as I will get found out soon enough. The tyre situation is causing havoc up front, some guys on mediums, some on softs and the result is angst as the soft runner knows he has to get on with it. Made a big error in my last race and had a JOLLY good fight well down the pack, after pitting i was on the medium and the other two chaps were on the soft, this meant our pace was equalised, i got em in the end but damn it's tough if on the slower rubber.
 
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Thanks. That only works if there's nobody close behind. If there is, they ram into me because I'm going slower that they expect. And if you get rammed from behind on that turn, kiss your butt race goodbye.
As your line will be comprimised by them running deep and tight you should be looking to loose as little time as possible.
If they are hitting you then their anticipation is rubbish and they'll likely hit you anyway.
 
I’m not sure what you mean here. If you mean sacrifice your DR in order to improve your SR, then yes, it’s worth it (see below). If you mean, as you wrote, ranking your DR to improve your DR, I don’t think that’s not going to work. The only way to improve your DR is to improve your DR.
What I meant was to drop my DR back down to D level and get back to basics and rebuild my DR again
 
What I meant was to drop my DR back down to D level and get back to basics and rebuild my DR again
What are you at now? Are you SR S? Are you ranked higher but finishing last in your lobbies? That’s not always a bad thing. I’ve learned the most by following the good racers and watching what they do.

I can say from my own experience that I did t actually start to improve and learn about racing until I was a B driver. C lobbies are erratic, and while the B lobbies aren’t always the cleanest, at least some of the racers aspire to get better. You can learn by watching those folks.

I also think of you drop to D and get better you’ll almost immediately bounce back up to C again.
 
What are you at now? Are you SR S? Are you ranked higher but finishing last in your lobbies?
Currently I'm low middle C on DR with an SR of S.
I was in low B in my DR but took a nasty drop with a disqualification in a race earlier in week.
Was thinking of resetting and starting over to get back to basics and try to get consistent to improve.

Or maybe I am just as good as I can be and don't really fit in well with B or higher as I was struggling hard just to stay in B.
 
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Currently I'm low middle C on DR with an SR of S.
I was in low B in my DR but took a nasty drop with a disqualification in a race earlier in week.
Was thinking of resetting and starting over to get back to basics and try to get consistent to improve.

Or maybe I am just as good as I can be and don't really fit in well with B or higher as I was struggling hard just to stay in B.
I was too the first couple of times I made it to B. But in time you will rise.
My natural state seems to be mid to low B. I do well in race craft but not so much on pace so that's where I belong.
 
I saw a GT3 RS near the top of the leaderboard for Race A, and I got excited since I finally had a use for the Stage 5 weight reduction I won for it so long ago. Turns out at max tune its still about 100lbs heavier than the Cayman and down 40 ft-lbs of torque for the same horsepower. A bunch of credits down the drain when I can just use last weeks Cayman.
 
I really don’t understand this match making with SR.
Just done a race Spa and Im getting paired up with a lot of SR A-C players. They was 4 S rated players and the rest are A, B and C’s. Now I am on the board of moving up to DR A, so is this like a little test that they stick you with dirty racers to prove you can move up a rank?

Anyway done a few Daily B’s. Starting mid pack, but having some good races in the Lambo. P2 my best result in that race.
Daily C been mix bag. Again starting mid pack. First two races i punted off and down to last. Managed in first race to get back to P5. 2nd race only a P11. Both those races were done in the Hyundai. 3rd race picked the GTR. Finished P4. Just completed a race now in the Mustang and boy did that thing try to kill me a few times! The rear just randomly likes to step out. Was P3 at the round of pit stops about 4 seconds behind P1. I stayed out and did an extra lap on the mediums and the two infront we’re on Softs. Thought this is it my chance for the win. Then at T1 the Mustang did kill me. Under braking the rear just went and crashed. Didn’t lose too much time and still managed to regain P3 but my hopes of a win went. P3 my best result so far at Spa.
 
I really don’t understand this match making with SR.
Just done a race Spa and Im getting paired up with a lot of SR A-C players. They was 4 S rated players and the rest are A, B and C’s. Now I am on the board of moving up to DR A, so is this like a little test that they stick you with dirty racers to prove you can move up a rank?

Anyway done a few Daily B’s. Starting mid pack, but having some good races in the Lambo. P2 my best result in that race.
Daily C been mix bag. Again starting mid pack. First two races i punted off and down to last. Managed in first race to get back to P5. 2nd race only a P11. Both those races were done in the Hyundai. 3rd race picked the GTR. Finished P4. Just completed a race now in the Mustang and boy did that thing try to kill me a few times! The rear just randomly likes to step out. Was P3 at the round of pit stops about 4 seconds behind P1. I stayed out and did an extra lap on the mediums and the two infront we’re on Softs. Thought this is it my chance for the win. Then at T1 the Mustang did kill me. Under braking the rear just went and crashed. Didn’t lose too much time and still managed to regain P3 but my hopes of a win went. P3 my best result so far at Spa.
Its like there aren't enough players participating in that Race, so players with different ranks are put together in the same lobby to make sure there is still some competition. Racing with folks with higher DR than yourself will make it easier to improve your DR if you have a decent result in the top half of the lobby.
 
Currently I'm low middle C on DR with an SR of S.
I was in low B in my DR but took a nasty drop with a disqualification in a race earlier in week.
Was thinking of resetting and starting over to get back to basics and try to get consistent to improve.

Or maybe I am just as good as I can be and don't really fit in well with B or higher as I was struggling hard just to stay in B.
Don't tank. I don't think you'll get any better by doing that. You can only get better by racing against better people. It sucks for a while, but it will pay off. I dropped from A to B on Monday and was really upset and ready to quit altogether. I not only was dropped to B but also to SR A, which was pure hell because I was racing against SR C drivers. I was sure I was stuck in a death spiral. But I stuck it out, learned the track better, and did well in a couple of races. I'm back at A/S, barely, and am running near last in all my A+ lobbies, but my score isn't dropping much because I'm losing to better drivers. Most importantly, I'm getting better and learning. Time of day also matters as well. If you race on off-peak hours you may get set in lobbies with A drivers who you can learn from without getting overwhelmed.

You can always get back to the basics in any race regardless of the lobby you're in. I think the hardest part of racing for me up to this point has been learning to be consistent in traffic. This can only be learned by jumping in and doing it. Take your lumps now and it will pay off, I promise. Whatever you do, don't quit a race you start. It hurts both DR and SR. Even if you're in last place, finish the race and focus on something to work on even in a losing effort. There's always something. For example, this week it's turns 15 & 16 at Spa. No matter where I am (usually waaaay behind) I can still study those turns.

And don't forget to just have fun with it. I was so obsessed with my DR that I wasn't having fun anymore. You'll hear a lot of people here say the same thing. When my rating dropped this week, and I wanted to quit, it reminded me to just go out and race and enjoy the process. Good luck!
I really don’t understand this match making with SR.
Just done a race Spa and Im getting paired up with a lot of SR A-C players. They was 4 S rated players and the rest are A, B and C’s. Now I am on the board of moving up to DR A, so is this like a little test that they stick you with dirty racers to prove you can move up a rank?
What's your rating?

The time of day matters. If it's off-peak hours you'll get a mixed bag. I tend to race very early in the morning and I get the craziest mixes. I've also found that when I transition from A to B, or from B to A, I get one or two races in what feels like a random lobby. Although I think it's probably coincidence, now I can't stop thinking about your suggestion that it's a "test" to see if you deserve the new ranking. This week may not be the best testing ground for me, though, because I had a really really bad day Monday and became a problem to myself and everyone around me on the track!

But mostly I think it's the time of day. For example, I don't race in the afternoons anymore because that's when all the kids get out of school and come looking to kill me! Maybe if I raced in a plain white van with no windows and "Free Candy" signs they'd stay away from me?
Try turning on the line, and follow it religiously (as fast as you can). I tis not perfect but Spa is very line dependent. Other broad tips.........


spa-track-map.jpg

  • Don't brake too hard into LaSource, try to carry more speed and get on the throttle earlier rather than hard brake, pivot then throttle
  • Les Combes sequence, there's a LOT of time here. So end of Kemmel, take the right as per the line then sacrifice some time through the left hander and prioritise getting on the throttle for Malmedy
  • I stink through turn 11, but you MUST clip the apex
  • TIGHT line through 13 and 14
  • Stavelot (15) is the most important turn on the track, there is a SECOND to be had. Get on the throttle as early as you dare AND DO NOT LIFT until the turn 19 chicane. If you lift, you've messed up your line.
  • Brake earlyish for 19, sacrifice 19 for speed and exit through 20. TBH on a qualy lap it's the opposite as speed at end of straight is irrelevant.
  • MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON SOFTS!
Ok, so I've made a little bit of progress, (and THANKS for that) but I need a little help figuring out the line on turns 12 and 16.

On 12, looking at this map, I think I've been doing it wrong. I've been clipping the left curb going into the turn and trail braking around the two bends. I'm thinking maybe I need to brake earlier and more to the right, and then accelerate into the flat part of that turn and into the exit? Any suggestions?

On the 15-16 transition, I just cannot find the line to enter 16. I can see what I should be doing, but I can't get my car to go there. I have to lift off just a little bit. Is this "don't lift off" strategy something that only works for the Silhouette? Because any other car I try it with I just can't do it. I find that I have to lift off just a touch between 15 & 16 because I can't go wide enough to get the right angle without getting sucked into the sand on the left. The green strips are so screwy and I never know what they're going to do to me. So the only way I can get around turn 16 is to lift off just a touch so I can balance the car and get around the bend. I've tried cutting in a little early into 16 and clipping the curb and that pylon on the right, but it swings me wide to the left on exit, at which point I have to lift off anyway. I see people turn into 16 in a way that seems very late to me, but they don't touch any curbs yet at the same time they pull away from me so they're clearly accelerating and not lifting off. I don't know how they do it! Any suggestions on this one?
 
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Try turning on the line, and follow it religiously (as fast as you can). I tis not perfect but Spa is very line dependent. Other broad tips.........


spa-track-map.jpg

  • Don't brake too hard into LaSource, try to carry more speed and get on the throttle earlier rather than hard brake, pivot then throttle
  • Les Combes sequence, there's a LOT of time here. So end of Kemmel, take the right as per the line then sacrifice some time through the left hander and prioritise getting on the throttle for Malmedy
  • I stink through turn 11, but you MUST clip the apex
  • TIGHT line through 13 and 14
  • Stavelot (15) is the most important turn on the track, there is a SECOND to be had. Get on the throttle as early as you dare AND DO NOT LIFT until the turn 19 chicane. If you lift, you've messed up your line.
  • Brake earlyish for 19, sacrifice 19 for speed and exit through 20. TBH on a qualy lap it's the opposite as speed at end of straight is irrelevant.
  • MAKE SURE YOU'RE ON SOFTS!
Ok, so I've made a little bit of progress, (and THANKS for that) but I need a little help figuring out the line on turns 12 and 16.

On 12, looking at this map, I think I've been doing it wrong. I've been clipping the left curb going into the turn and trail braking around the two bends. I'm thinking maybe I need to brake earlier and more to the right, and then accelerate into the flat part of that turn and into the exit? Any suggestions?

On the 15-16 transition, I just cannot find the line to enter 16. I can see what I should be doing, but I can't get my car to go there. I have to lift off just a little bit. Is this "don't lift off" strategy something that only works for the Silhouette? Because any other car I try it with I just can't do it. I find that I have to lift off just a touch between 15 & 16 because I can't go wide enough to get the right angle without getting sucked into the sand on the left. The green strips are so screwy and I never know what they're going to do to me. So the only way I can get around turn 16 is to lift off just a touch so I can balance the car and get around the bend. I've tried cutting in a little early into 16 and clipping the curb and that pylon on the right, but it swings me wide to the left on exit, at which point I have to lift off anyway. I see people turn into 16 in a way that seems very late to me, but they don't touch any curbs yet at the same time they pull away from me so they're clearly accelerating and not lifting off. I don't know how they do it! Any suggestions on this one?
 
On 12, looking at this map, I think I've been doing it wrong. I've been clipping the left curb going into the turn and trail braking around the two bends. I'm thinking maybe I need to brake earlier and more to the right, and then accelerate into the flat part of that turn and into the exit? Any suggestions?

On the 15-16 transition, I just cannot find the line to enter 16. I can see what I should be doing, but I can't get my car to go there. I have to lift off just a little bit. Is this "don't lift off" strategy something that only works for the Silhouette? Because any other car I try it with I just can't do it. I find that I have to lift off just a touch between 15 & 16 because I can't go wide enough to get the right angle without getting sucked into the sand on the left. The green strips are so screwy and I never know what they're going to do to me. So the only way I can get around turn 16 is to lift off just a touch so I can balance the car and get around the bend. I've tried cutting in a little early into 16 and clipping the curb and that pylon on the right, but it swings me wide to the left on exit, at which point I have to lift off anyway. I see people turn into 16 in a way that seems very late to me, but they don't touch any curbs yet at the same time they pull away from me so they're clearly accelerating and not lifting off. I don't know how they do it! Any suggestions on this one?
Turn 12 is Pouhon, I left this off as it's extremely difficult to get right. Ideal line is tricky, I stay right but watch the kerbs as they are slippery and will suck you in, i hit the brakes quite firmly but quickly and sort of trail brake (as best you can with D-pad and box button) to the left but you must then transition onto the gas VERY VERY quickly but not until you can hold it flat all the way through the second apex. This is by far the hardest sequence to get right.

15-16 is easier to explain and easier to do but you will get it wrong half the time. To be clear, 16 is flat, absolutely flat. The key is 15. I ride the kerb high to the left before 15, brake earlier than a lot of people around me but carry good speed to the apex of 15, then i leap on the throttle full beans, go left, ride the kerb a bit then hurl it to the apex at 16 giving it full beans. Get the entry wrong though and you need to lift, the green stuff left of screen is quick sand. 16 should be flat in every car at all times, your adjustment comes at 15 depending on the vehicle in question and yes the Nissan means you can get on it a bit earlier.

I'll post some videos later tonight.
 
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Turn 12 is Pouhon, I left this off as it's extremely difficult to get right. Ideal line is tricky, I stay right but watch the kerbs as they are slippery and will suck you in, i hit the brakes quite firmly but quickly and sort of trail brake (as best you can with D-pad and box button) to the left but you must then transition onto the gas VERY VERY quickly but not until you can hold it flat all the way through the second apex. This is by far the hardest sequence to get right.

15-16 is easier to explain and easier to do but you will get it wrong half the time. To be clear, 16 is flat, absolutely flat. The key is 15. I ride the kerb high to the left before 15, brake earlier than a lot of people around me but carry good speed to the apex of 15, then i leap on the throttle full beans, go left, ride the kerb a bit then hurl it to the apex at 16 giving it full beans. Get the entry wrong though and you need to lift, the green stuff left of screen is quick sand. 16 should be flat in every car at all times, your adjustment comes at 15 depending on the vehicle in question and yes the Nissan means you can get on it a bit earlier.

I'll post some videos later tonight.
Thanks again. Yeah, 16 is just killing me. I did it in the Nissan and I was shocked at how much easier that car took the turn. It felt like cheating! In other cars, I just can't find the line. I wait as long as I can before I turn in, but it is nerve-wracking every time because sometimes it's too late so I have to slow down, or else it is too early and so I have to slow down. I think I've hit it perfectly once in a non-Nissan car. It was the Supra of course. I can see why these are the meta cars this week. I'll switch to one of them I'm sure, but for now I'm obsessed with finding the sweet spot!
 
Strange little "glitch": I tried different cars at Spa, (quickest is indeed the Silhouette so far, although I just don't "feel" it how to drive that cardboard box). When I took the Ford GT '18, which went very nicely at Monza, the game just wouldn't let me in, because allegedly I don't have the necessary tires. Which isn't true, I even bought the intermediate and wet tires. Nope. No access...

Okay, then the Mustang instead...
 
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