GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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hardvibes
Finally someone who speaks up about the unexplainable short length of the A/B daily races, the unexplainable useless wait at the end of the daily races, the unexplainable 20 minutes wait between a same daily race and the unexplainable lack of daily races in general, since we're stuck with only 3.
For any game I want to try matchmaking, where all players start together (let it be MW2, Battlefront 2, any football game, Forza Motorsport etc etc etc...) there is always a match/race available. It's a continuous flow. And if there's a couple of minutes to wait, I'll wait in a lobby. I don't have to look at a screen with nothing but a timer of 15-20 frigging minutes.

PD are figuratively running their servers with the handbrake on. Too much traffic to sustain? Are they amateurs? I don't think they are. Don't they have resources? We're talking about PD and Sony here, come on...
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I didn't watch the video, but from your post I can tell what it's generally about. This is so frustrating! I like Race B a lot this week, but the wait in between races is longer than the actual race itself. It makes no sense. Also, why are we waiting a solid minute after the race for the timer to reach zero when everyone has already finished.....
 
Leon Kowalski
Any tips how to avoid getting pushed-to-pass in the fast left-hand kink? I saw it coming, he (one of the SR B drivers) divebombed into my left side from 3 car lengths behind, without even braking (I checked the replay), but I had no idea what to do against it.
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Delay your turn-in. Brake straight a little further and then turn in later, sacrificing a little corner speed but seeing him fly by and off track. The best feeling in a race
 
GaugeForever
Managed a 3:21:556 to edge out @GrumpyOldMan :). Feeling fast boi. The trick for me was I was entering the corners too soon.
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Yeah, I saw that. Grrrrr! Seriously though, good on ya!
Leon Kowalski
Err... of course I memorized who that was, and I will kill him without hesitation the next time we meet in a race...ā˜ ļøšŸ¤£
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But of course! Someone just ticked me off so much that when I started the next race with the intent of getting him back, I wiped out before I even got the chance! Time for a break.

OK, question for you guys:

Let's say I'm at St. Croix. P1 is a GT-R. P2 and P3 are both Alfas. I'm P2. At the start, I slipstream P1 then pass him, making the T1 turn on the inside. Where should I brake, what gear(s) should I use, and what speed should I try to hit the apex with? I keep messing this up, and ending up with P3 coming side-by-side with me on T2-T3, which is a recipe for disaster.

Or should I handle T1 completely differently? Should I not try to pass P1 on T1?

I'd just like to have a decent start and actually survive the first lap. Instead, it feels like I get thrown into a mosh pit.
 
Made the jump from controller to wheel this holiday season and bought myself a T-GT 2 base! I already have TM pedals and a wheel so the price didn't hurt too much. That said - the pedals I have are modded T3PAs so a birthday upgrade is certainly in the cards.

My alts are certainly about to get some more use. Much as I don't worry much anymore about my DR, I'm much happier an alt dropping ranks than I am my main :P

Curious to see what my pace differential is, I've some experience on wheel already so it wont hurt too bad to see my laptimes grow, but it'll certainly be interesting to see how that changes over time.
 
GrumpyOldMan
On one hand, I can't even fathom doing it so quickly (I'm at :21). On the other hand, you make it look so smooth that of course, anyone could do it! Simply awesome lap.

I'm always amazed at how much less braking you top guys do than I do. I understand the concepts (I think), but I can't even come close to implementing them like you do. I'm not complaining - I enjoy the level I'm racing at, and in the end that's all that matters. But still, when I watch you showing that level of expertise, I'm in awe. Simply in awe.

Great lap, and thanks for sharing it!
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Thanks for the kind words. For the first time since the early days of GT Sport Iā€™m putting in a significant amount of time on my qualy laps and doing a bit less racing. Having a one year old son makes things less predictable so I just run some laps when I can and race odd hours. It feels good to know that I can still deliver at a high level if I have the time to commit some hours to learning the combo.
newb1017
That was sweet. You nailed everything but two particular spots really stuck out. The turn on the bridge was very good but you absolutely killed the hairpin just prior to that turn. That was sweet and smooth and fast.

I also noticed how you handled the awkward turn/kink into the long straight (the turn where the sand can be in play on the left). You were off the throttle way, way sooner than I am and back on it way quicker (right on the right curb), yet you carried lots of speed. I'll work on it but I clearly need to be off throttle much sooner there in order to get that part right. There is whole second of time available from that curb to the hairpin... so it is critical. And yeah, I know slow in fast out but that far back seems so counterintuitive I would never have even considered it.

I thought I was losing lots of time on the last two turns of the track, but I am not when looking at your speeds.

I can't get lower than mid 3.22, which is a bigger % gap than normal for me so I love the challenge of trying to find out where I can gain time.

Thanks for posting!!

PS. A question, I notice your sector times were not flashing. Do you have that turned off? I find that very helpful in confirming/disconfirming the pace I think I have. Does it distract you?
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Thanks for commenting buddy! That long awkward kink is a killer, let me tell ya šŸ˜‚ I was torn on simply lifting there or applying a little bit of brake then I watched the #1 guy who hit a 16.0 and he brakes slightly and takes the inside line all the way where itā€™s much smoother. Main reason for not coming in too hot and then extending too wide is that big bump in the track is a little less severe on the right side and you donā€™t lose traction as long as you do when you hit it on the left side of the track. That and itā€™s a long straight that ends with a left turn so no point in extending your line wide just to cut back across.

Regarding the last two turns of the track, I bottled the final corner and had to lift a bit or I wouldā€™ve hit the wall. Iā€™ve thrown so many great laps on this particular final corner, and itā€™s usually so hard to judge mostly because the corner before it is so hard to nail consistently. On that lap I hit the penultimate corner alright but it was definitely a conservative one. The car didnā€™t pull me completely out towards the curbs on exit so I know I couldā€™ve carried more speed there. Tough corner though, you barely have enough time to get your car settled before you begin braking for it.

The only reason my sector times werenā€™t flashing is because it was a recording of a saved replay. I wasnā€™t recording when I set the lap and I like to upload most of my shorter videos in 4K which has to be recorded live.
GrumpyOldMan
OK, question for you guys:

Let's say I'm at St. Croix. P1 is a GT-R. P2 and P3 are both Alfas. I'm P2. At the start, I slipstream P1 then pass him, making the T1 turn on the inside. Where should I brake, what gear(s) should I use, and what speed should I try to hit the apex with? I keep messing this up, and ending up with P3 coming side-by-side with me on T2-T3, which is a recipe for disaster.

Or should I handle T1 completely differently? Should I not try to pass P1 on T1?

I'd just like to have a decent start and actually survive the first lap. Instead, it feels like I get thrown into a mosh pit.
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I started on pole quite a few times this week and luckily there was never an Alfa starting in P2 but several times there was one in P3 and they were always causing the driver behind me to go defensive, which really just allowed me to get away in the first couple corners. I would recommend forcing the guy ahead to go defensive and cover the inside, then before the braking zone cut back to take the normal line and see if you can overtake him before the next corner. If you take the inside then your line is compromised and you run the risk of the potentially faster car (GTR) just taking his position back before the next corner, all while letting those behind catch you. I guess the danger here is if P3 behind you is also in an Alfa he will be there ready to pounce and if they are aggressive they might go for a T1 dive since the lead car will already be protecting the inside and youā€™ll be all the way to the outside. Tough call but I would focus on trying to compromise the leader since they are faster on paper and maybe he will tangle with the other slower Alfa heading into T2, then you might sneak away for a win.
 
GrumpyOldMan
Yeah, I saw that. Grrrrr! Seriously though, good on ya!

But of course! Someone just ticked me off so much that when I started the next race with the intent of getting him back, I wiped out before I even got the chance! Time for a break.

OK, question for you guys:

Let's say I'm at St. Croix. P1 is a GT-R. P2 and P3 are both Alfas. I'm P2. At the start, I slipstream P1 then pass him, making the T1 turn on the inside. Where should I brake, what gear(s) should I use, and what speed should I try to hit the apex with? I keep messing this up, and ending up with P3 coming side-by-side with me on T2-T3, which is a recipe for disaster.

Or should I handle T1 completely differently? Should I not try to pass P1 on T1?

I'd just like to have a decent start and actually survive the first lap. Instead, it feels like I get thrown into a mosh pit.
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The first corner of a race is much slower than qualifying. I brake about halfway between 100 and 50 signs. I always start my turn at the 50 board. Just brake a lot later and not as much because you donā€™t have the speed of a normal lap.
 
Starting on pole I was finding that I needed to brake just before the 50 board on the first lap at St. Croix. When I tried to brake right at the 50 I ended up slightly missing the apex and couldnā€™t carry as much speed. You want your right wheels to be on the green stuff a little, pushing those track limits.
 
Regarding Race A this week, I view it very negatively. It isn't any good to me; it's simplistic and I abandoned it for all time. I guess I'm better suited with the existing Race A in GTS.
 
New mindset, new races, right?

I did four races B on my main account trying not to give a F. That worked. But the racing was no fun at all. Complete ****show. Qualified between P4 and P5, only one race went clean, and I finished P4. I was punted into oblivion in the kink in each of the three others, watching from the grass how the whole field passed me. No one of the guys who hit me waited, nobody apologized. And no penalties, of course.

Two more races on my second account, completely different picture in pure B/S lobbies. Clean and respectful racing, two-wide runs giving each other enough space, people even backing out of dangerous overtaking opportunities to wait for the next better one. Great fun.

So, on my first account, A/S, I'm put in mixed lobbies with a lot of a-holes and end up at the back of the field, on my second, B/S, mostly great racing, and I get podiums regularly.

As I'm close to dropping out of DR A on my main account anyway, I think I'll do it deliberately.
 
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Today I was the fastest loser. P2 in three B races, and two A races. In 2/3 of the B races I had a shot at a win. One, I muffed, the other was defended without regard - I had him at the end of lap 1, setting up perfectly for the @Winnie847 line (thanks!) through the penultimate turn and the asshat ran me off the track BEFORE the turn. I went from challenging P1 to P5, but made it back to P2 for the checkered flag. I was successful in both the Alfa and GTR. There was a Mustang that was killing it today (RabidRabbit) and I had some epic saves in the GTR. There was a poor Chilean in an Alfa who got sandwiched between me and another GTR, and I feel a bit ashamed about it as he lost the most out of the encounter and didn't deserve it.

Then I hopped into race A where I started and finished P2...twice. I must admit I thought this race would suck this week, and only got involved because I lit a wicked livery for a vette and wanted some action shots for the showcase (yeah, I do that). The gentleman who yesterday thought it okay to divebomb from the apron was now keeping it in track limits and it was very clean and competitive racing...at the front.

My QT for race A was in the top 250 yesterday, I bested it this morning but found myself somewhere around 900th??? I started looking at all the times and realized every page had multiple drivers all logging the same time...duh.

One thing I did for race A was set the calibration of my steering wheel about 3 degrees to the left. I found time immediately but I can't seem to get a sub 45. Maybe give it another go tomorrow, maybe not.
 
I finally fired up Sport Mode on my second account. Tried to set a qualifying time in the WRX for Race B but just couldn't get the handle of the car, the wheel, and pedals for this circuit. Something to practice with as soon as I can afford one I guess :D

So I grabbed the GT-R and set a 3:25:xx which really isn't too bad. The last time I played this circuit on controller with the WRX I ran a 3:23 so I'm not too far off of comfortable pace.... WHEN I CAN STRING A LAP TOGETHER WITHOUT SPINNING AND DYING

Second place grid position. 11th place finishing position, out of the 11 runners at the finish. Spun, hit wall, straightened out. Ran 5 more corners, did it again.
I know what I'm doing wrong, getting on the throttle too early, or trying to be on throttle with a wheel or two on the grass. Can't be doing those things lolol

I'm getting there though. Get my mechanics really dialed in and I'll be good to go. The only thing I've found I don't like is that on controller when you run over the rumble strips/curbs you hear AND get vibration sensations.
I don't get that on the G29. Maybe I have a setting wrong, maybe that's just something I have to learn to live with. idk
 
bone_tone
You managed more than I did! I started on pole in 80% of the races I did, but couldn't convert one of them to a win - got pit manoeuvred out of about 50% of the races, usually on the last turn of the last lap!

Couldn't believe the number of people that seemed to able to run the wrong side of the yellow lines without penalty, whereas I seemed to get one for the slightest slip over them....

Merry Christmas all šŸŽ„
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Tell me about it! It seemed like every race I'd get taken out by someone either being stupid of losing control. If you can keep a tight line around the track it's pure luck if you're around others who can do the same at that moment. Like I said, total crapshoot of a race. Fun though!
 
Leon Kowalski
New mindset, new races, right?

I did four races B on my main account trying not to give a F. That worked. But the racing was no fun at all. Complete ****show. Qualified between P4 and P5, only one race went clean, and I finished P4. I was punted into oblivion in the kink in each of the three others, watching from the grass how the whole field passed me. No one of the guys who hit me waited, nobody apologized. And no penalties, of course.

Two more races on my second account, completely different picture in pure B/S lobbies. Clean and respectful racing, two-wide runs giving each other enough space, people even backing out of dangerous overtaking opportunities to wait for the next better one. Great fun.

So, on my first account, A/S, I'm put in mixed lobbies with a lot of a-holes and end up at the back of the field, on my second, B/S, mostly great racing, and I get podiums regularly.

As I'm close to dropping out of DR A on my main account anyway, I think I'll do it deliberately.
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Just to bring the story to an end: the difference between my accounts regarding DR is very minimal. On my second account it is DR B at around 80% of the progress bar. On my first it's maybe 5% of the bar in DR A, one or two bad races from dropping out of it.

But the difference in speed and aggressiveness is absolutely massive.

On my second I have a Q time of 3:20:5, which gets me on pole or P2 at worst on the grid.
On my first account my Q time is almost a second faster, 3:19:6, around P400 globally, and my starting position has never been better than P5.

And I've won half of my races on my second account in mostly clean races, whereas in the mixed DR A lobbies I get usually killed. So, on my second account my DR goes up, mainly because of race B, and on my first account my DR goes down, mainly because of race B šŸ¤Ŗ.

Well maybe it's just me, not being able to cope with the aggressive bumping and punting style. When push comes to shove, I'm lost. Gaining more experience in these kind of races would probably help, but I enjoy and always try to race clean, so I just don't feel the urge to get there.

Anyway, I'm going to take what the races give me.
 
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I had a much better experience than most with the A race, I used the week to get the 50 races trophy on my backup account.
Starting on pole for all but one race and tons of GT5 experience racing corvettes at Daytona years back sure helped. You have to hold a super tight line and counter the person trying to root you out, only got spun once all week, amazingly.
 
GrumpyOldMan
Yeah, I saw that. Grrrrr! Seriously though, good on ya!

But of course! Someone just ticked me off so much that when I started the next race with the intent of getting him back, I wiped out before I even got the chance! Time for a break.

OK, question for you guys:

Let's say I'm at St. Croix. P1 is a GT-R. P2 and P3 are both Alfas. I'm P2. At the start, I slipstream P1 then pass him, making the T1 turn on the inside. Where should I brake, what gear(s) should I use, and what speed should I try to hit the apex with? I keep messing this up, and ending up with P3 coming side-by-side with me on T2-T3, which is a recipe for disaster.

Or should I handle T1 completely differently? Should I not try to pass P1 on T1?

I'd just like to have a decent start and actually survive the first lap. Instead, it feels like I get thrown into a mosh pit.
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Others have commented with good suggestions. I brake around 70 and turn in at the 50. I am not concerned about the actual speed but because everyone up front is slower here than normal you can be pretty aggressive while still leaving some space on your left. What I have found is that by now most of the GT-R drivers that are just ahead of a 155 will give that position up prior to or entering turn 1, and then tuck in behind. The know they will get on you on the straight, or maybe sooner if you take a bad line. And, what they don't want is to battle 2 AR155s. If I was P1 in a Gt-R I would concede to 1 AR155 and tuck in to protect my spot and make sure there is no battle that would allow those behind to catch up.

Where things get goofy is when two 155's try and pass a GTR prior to or into T1, or when a GT-R tries to defend T1 from a single 155.

On a related not I find it funny in pre-race chat when someone in a GTR says "don't pass on turn 1"... I am thinking lol. "I am in a 155, and I can NOT NOT pass you prior to or through turn1". I feel like posting " I will tuck in behind you into and through T1 if you do the same on the 1st stretch"....lol
 
Well I'm quite pleased with the dailies this week racking up wins on race A especially....I prefer the bump drafting type of race...it functions just like a nascar race with the C8...
 
newb1017
Others have commented with good suggestions. I brake around 70 and turn in at the 50. I am not concerned about the actual speed but because everyone up front is slower here than normal you can be pretty aggressive while still leaving some space on your left. What I have found is that by now most of the GT-R drivers that are just ahead of a 155 will give that position up prior to or entering turn 1, and then tuck in behind. The know they will get on you on the straight, or maybe sooner if you take a bad line. And, what they don't want is to battle 2 AR155s. If I was P1 in a Gt-R I would concede to 1 AR155 and tuck in to protect my spot and make sure there is no battle that would allow those behind to catch up.

Where things get goofy is when two 155's try and pass a GTR prior to or into T1, or when a GT-R tries to defend T1 from a single 155.

On a related not I find it funny in pre-race chat when someone in a GTR says "don't pass on turn 1"... I am thinking lol. "I am in a 155, and I can NOT NOT pass you prior to or through turn1". I feel like posting " I will tuck in behind you into and through T1 if you do the same on the 1st stretch"....lol
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I read AR155 as AR-15 and was like "yeahj I don't wanna fight two of those either"
 
Was having Xmas lunch at mother in law house and around 5pm wife was starting to notice a look in my eyes. Without even uttering a word to her, she came over and said "You want to go home and race, right?" šŸ¤£ She wasn't wrong šŸ˜‚

Had to rest for an hour and recover from the food coma once we got home but just did my first race and it was clean and went well, must have been the baby Jesus effect šŸ¤£šŸŽ…

Hope all of you having a good holiday season!
 

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Leon Kowalski
Well maybe it's just me, not being able to cope with the aggressive bumping and punting style. When push comes to shove, I'm lost. Gaining more experience in these kind of races would probably help, but I enjoy and always try to race clean, so I just don't feel the urge to get there.

Anyway, I'm going to take what the races give me.
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I had the same experience in Race C. Last night I was racing with a mixed lobby of A and B drivers and it was perfectly respectful. Earlier in the day the mostly A lobbies were murder. Today I wondered if the Christmas crowd might bring out the crazies, and sure enough, it did. I improved my quali time by a second, but still started P7 in a misty B lobby. I knew I was in trouble, but it ended out being an A driver who divebombed a whole line of us at the final chicane. Ruined my race and my mood because I had gone several laps of great racing with another guy. Once I got punted and fell back then I felt like a pinball the rest of the race! Iā€™ll surely be a B after one or two more races, and Iā€™m starting to look forward to it!
 
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This may be a generalization but sometime I find A/S drivers a bit more bullying against me as B/S driver. They will often try and force an opening where there is none, and barge through. Perhaps under the rationale that they are faster, which they are. An A+/S driver tends to be more patient - less likely to feel the need to force a spot through contact. Mind you the only time I see an A+ driver behind me is if he/she has gone off track or been punted, so there is that...lol. If an A+ driver is behind me they ought to be in "whatever" mode by then.....lol
 
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Was on for a podium (doesnā€™t happen often) at Suzuka in the Citroen. Running 3rd, softs to come after the pit. Ran a tiny bit wide on the 130R exit kerb. Wham (Last Christmas etc), I had a double meeting with Barry. 3 secs penalty, car in some Latifi-zone instead of on the track, disaster.

Oh well, happy holidays I guess.

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Fezzik
the exact same ones as every other gr4 race
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I had really good luck with the Cayman at Watkins Glen a few weeks ago, but that was a tire/fuel saving race if I remember. This week looks like a sprint without strategy, which bums me out.

Edit: Let me amend that: Iā€™m no longer bummed out because Iā€™m no longer surprised. I guess theyā€™re counting on a new influx of interest after Christmas, but these horrible races are killing mine.

Why canā€™t they set up a challenging Maggiore event like in the Human Comedy mission? Or any of those missions for that matter?! Daytona could be fun this week, but there is zero challenge to it. Itā€™s just . . . lame.
 
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