GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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sturk0167
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New best is the Audi TT.
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I was going to suggest the TT for Race B. I tried it once in the past and found it to be a reasonable alternative to the 155 and WRX. I haven't played much for a while, but did a few races yesterday, and lost a bunch of DR and SR with shortcut penalties while I learned the track....now I'm annoyed and will probably just run the WRX until I'm back at A+ (which will probably be at least 5 races away). I tried the Atenza but damn it's slow - I was about 2 car lengths behind my 1.24.1 ghost by turn 1.
 
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Route X in Fiat 500s for Race C
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sturk0167
I've been trying a bunch of different cars at race B.
For the first time, I just entered the race with the NSX.
What an absolute joy to drive! 😍
It's not the fastest car, but it drives like a dream. No oversteer. No understeer. It doesn't do any weird, unpredictable stuff.
I started 16th, and finished 8th.
It probably won't win any races, but it's a nice drive.

For anyone else who doesn't mind driving a non-meta car, give it a try. 👍
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Well then you'll love the Bugatti. Best driving and handling car I've tried. It's just to heavy at 3600 lbs.
and BOP does not take any of that away.
 
You can't fix this. It's just too many stupid people are racing.

Watch how many breaks I give the guy (after I avoid a rear-ending in T1 from behind, too). (ok, you can't because I saved the wrong capture, but I gave him at least 3 breaks leading up to this, where I could have run him over or off the course while he was drifting an and making a mess of lap one while the pack drove off ahead of us). Then he simply runs me off the road. Lap one. Race over.

And COOL PINBALL CRASH PHYSICS, PD!

I tried 3 races tonight. Each one, I got punted, doored, or run over for position while that car finished ahead of me at the end. So they get DR up, I get DR down.

Oh, and he called me "NFS Driver" in the chat after. That's incredible.

GTP_WorstDriver was out there, sorry I missed you before I could say hi. Nice 4th, wish I was as fast as you so I could avoid the nonsense that happens behind you.

I'm not going to bother posting the other two races. All told I lost about 8 or 9 combined finishing spots, and finished in the bottom third of those races, too, while those guys all went on with the DR gains they earned by driving like that. Once in the final section after the chicane on the last lap. By a guy that I had raced really close with and thought we had a fun clean race, until 9.9 laps were over. Cool. And DR or not, what's the point of racing when this garbage is the norm? So it's not fun.

Honestly, I'm sick to my stomach putting up with this BS.

Bye.



Me:

Gives him break into hairpin, when he goes from covering the racing line outside to diving to apex really slow, so I make contact but I don't move him, not at the apex and not on the exit.

Me:

Gives him a break on the exit of Schumacher esses, where he's really slow on the apex but I don't knock him offline.

Him:

Drives me off the track on the literally-easiest 'turn' on the track. Ruins my race.
 
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KosmoKazi
You can't fix this. It's just too many stupid people are racing.

Watch how many breaks I give the guy (after I avoid a rear-ending in T1 from behind, too). (ok, you can't because I saved the wrong capture, but I gave him at least 3 breaks leading up to this, where I could have run him over or off the course while he was drifting an and making a mess of lap one while the pack drove off ahead of us). Then he simply runs me off the road. Lap one. Race over.

And COOL PINBALL CRASH PHYSICS, PD!

I tried 3 races tonight. Each one, I got punted, doored, or run over for position while that car finished ahead of me at the end. So they get DR up, I get DR down.

Oh, and he called me "NFS Driver" in the chat after. That's incredible.

GTP_WorstDriver was out there, sorry I missed you before I could say hi. Nice 4th, wish I was as fast as you so I could avoid the nonsense that happens behind you.

I'm not going to bother posting the other two races. All told I lost about 8 or 9 combined finishing spots, and finished in the bottom third of those races, too, while those guys all went on with the DR gains they earned by driving like that. Once in the final section after the chicane on the last lap. By a guy that I had raced really close with and thought we had a fun clean race, until 9.9 laps were over. Cool. And DR or not, what's the point of racing when this garbage is the norm? So it's not fun.

Honestly, I'm sick to my stomach putting up with this BS.

Bye.



Me:

Gives him break into hairpin, when he goes from covering the racing line outside to diving to apex really slow, so I make contact but I don't move him, not at the apex and not on the exit.

Me:

Gives him a break on the exit of Schumacher esses, where he's really slow on the apex but I don't knock him offline.

Him:

Drives me off the track on the literally-easiest 'turn' on the track. Ruins my race.
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Yep, that's dumb. Especially since you can see him stuck in the gravel trap on the other side of the track.
 


Was this a take out attempt? Thats me coming out in the Mustang from the pits in P1. This guy clearly sees me coming out and on the inside. There's no way he had this move right? Luckily I saved it but during the race I thought maybe I cut him off but I don't think so. Seems like he was trying to t-bone me.
 
TheOneDonJuan


Was this a take out attempt? Thats me coming out in the Mustang from the pits in P1. This guy clearly sees me coming out and on the inside. There's no way he had this move right? Luckily I saved it but during the race I thought maybe I cut him off but I don't think so. Seems like he was trying to t-bone me.
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i think he just tried to sneak up the inside, if it was a take-out attempt he would've just kept driving into you until u spun & not waited like he did..
he just went for a sneaky overtake & it backfired.
thats my take on it.
race on! ;)
 
TheOneDonJuan


Was this a take out attempt? Thats me coming out in the Mustang from the pits in P1. This guy clearly sees me coming out and on the inside. There's no way he had this move right? Luckily I saved it but during the race I thought maybe I cut him off but I don't think so. Seems like he was trying to t-bone me.
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No he’s just really impatient and not very good at overtaking.

It is, however, an indication he might do something dumb later that does take you out.
 
TheOneDonJuan


Was this a take out attempt? Thats me coming out in the Mustang from the pits in P1. This guy clearly sees me coming out and on the inside. There's no way he had this move right? Luckily I saved it but during the race I thought maybe I cut him off but I don't think so. Seems like he was trying to t-bone me.
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This happens because of the way the pit exit works. You carry much less speed when coming out of the pits and can turn the car much tighter than when you're at full race speed I think he just took his usual line and was probably very surprised to see your car right in front of him with nowhere to go as opposed to being on the far side of the track where he was headed. A bit of a lack of awareness on his part, but it doesn't look like he tried to wreck you on purpose.
 
Did some testing for Le Mans Race C next week. GT-R is likely the meta. the Vette can hang with it though if you get the rotation and acceleration zones right. Vette actually has a slightly higher top speed, at least in my experience. 167 mph vs 165 AND the Vette appears to get there quicker.

That being said, a single mistake and you might as well quit. It's going to be 100% bump drafting down Mulsanne and into Indianapolis, then how well can you brake, corner, and accelerate. A half second penalty dropped me from 3rd, 3 seconds behind the leader (I messed up Tetre Rouge) down to 10 seconds back from 1st in a no mans land. Not quite quit area but close.

I imagine a 1.5 definitely being a quit zone.

Obviously weather, should it happen, changes a lot of this because you can't just be flat out the entire time. Definitely need to practice your bump drafts and race craft to follow, brake, and corner that closely, and definitely need to watch the track limits. There's a tricky spot in the esses leading to the curve before Tetre Rouge where hitting the cones, even with two tires on the racing surface inside the white lines gets you a track cut penalty.

Obvs Lobby qualifying is vastly different than the single car daily qualifying. That said the best lap we saw in qualifying tonight was a 4 minutes flat from an A+ driver in the GT-R. I'm a C and my best was a 4:03 with the Vette.
 
After many cycles of random cars, I finally managed to hit my target for race C (P4). There were quite a few cars where this was going to actually be impossible with 90% of them being the MRs (suck at driving them). I got the Super Silhouette once and that race was an absolute disaster. A pro was that it didn't use its tires. A con was that it didn't use its tires.

Rolled the RSR maybe twice so far, and got lucky to not get murdered on lap one again. There were also some solid C7 Gr.3 runs and an SLS GT3 run that ended up at P5.



Wrapping up the week now:

Race A was not fun. I only did it twice. Both times I was punted off the track. Didn't enjoy qualifying in it. Didn't enjoy the "racing" it provided. Its one of those combos that sounds better on paper than it actually is. You either get ahead never to be seen again, or you get murdered because the car is that difficult to drive in a racing situation. Once I got my win I just skedaddled. No faith that it was actually going to get better.

Moved on to Race B, which ended up being a different kind of unsavory. Not only was it near impossible to get through the race without any damage, there seemed to be a level of sloppiness to the racing that was borderline dirty driving. I don't mind a small bit of contact in close battles, but its completely different from shoving me off at the exit, or making a mistake and cutting directly in front of me to defend a position. Whenever it happens I have a very strong urge to end their race immediately. One of these days, man.

Target for Race B was also P4, and I got it in the Aston Martin after falling all the way down to P12 on lap 1. One of too many recovery drives.

 
After many cycles of random cars

Interesting way to Race.

Maybe PD should take a leaf from your book and just assign cars randomly. If you have your own car of the one selected , you drive that or the rented version if you don’t. Only one car of each type per race. A random lottery if you will.

With the number of cars available, especially groups 3 & 4, this would make for some interesting grids. It would also reduce the impact meta cars have in the game.

Just a thought ……
 
sturk0167
I've been trying a bunch of different cars at race B.
For the first time, I just entered the race with the NSX.
What an absolute joy to drive! 😍
It's not the fastest car, but it drives like a dream. No oversteer. No understeer. It doesn't do any weird, unpredictable stuff.
I started 16th, and finished 8th.
It probably won't win any races, but it's a nice drive.

For anyone else who doesn't mind driving a non-meta car, give it a try. 👍
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You tried the G70 yet?

I was driving it the other day in Race B and it was lovely to drive....I'd not used it since release when I used to grind the Brands Hatch race.
It gave me so much more confidence than the Scooby through turns, and 'seems' to be a lot quicker and more stable through T1.

Slightly down on acceleration maybe, but keeps up top end.
 
Cherryturbo
After many cycles of random cars

Interesting way to Race.

Maybe PD should take a leaf from your book and just assign cars randomly. If you have your own car of the one selected , you drive that or the rented version if you don’t. Only one car of each type per race. A random lottery if you will.

With the number of cars available, especially groups 3 & 4, this would make for some interesting grids. It would also reduce the impact meta cars have in the game.

Just a thought ……
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I would love if they did a 'meta-reset' every Friday by banning the cars that have emerged as meta, and adjusting tyre wear/fuel rate and pit stop times to counter whatever has emerged as the meta strategy. Would make things fresh for the weekend when most people play, and in theory ensure the races are optimised a bit, without people having to learn a whole new combo from scratch
 
skidmark69
I would love if they did a 'meta-reset' every Friday by banning the cars that have emerged as meta, and adjusting tyre wear/fuel rate and pit stop times to counter whatever has emerged as the meta strategy. Would make things fresh for the weekend when most people play, and in theory ensure the races are optimised a bit, without people having to learn a whole new combo from scratch
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Careful, slippery slope there, changing things midweek. Next thing you know we’ll be having a different daily race every day.
 
Fezzik
Careful, slippery slope there, changing things midweek. Next thing you know we’ll be having a different daily race every day.
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Yeah but I actually support them not changing it every day. Too hard for most people to jump in a new car and track and have a good race.
 
Roggers
3. Playing a different sim. I started to play ACC and I found I had to re learn how to drive again. Different physics etc… can reset your muscle memory which could get rid of those bad habits you have in GT7 (if that make sens)
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Been meaning to do this for a while and it was on sale so took the plunge. Re-installed PC2 as well. If I can get the hang of those 2, then hopefully it will improve things GT-wise.
 
Cherryturbo
After many cycles of random cars

Interesting way to Race.

Maybe PD should take a leaf from your book and just assign cars randomly. If you have your own car of the one selected , you drive that or the rented version if you don’t. Only one car of each type per race. A random lottery if you will.

With the number of cars available, especially groups 3 & 4, this would make for some interesting grids. It would also reduce the impact meta cars have in the game.

Just a thought ……
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That would reduce the playerbase with the BOP as it it.
I see I have the 4C this race. Let's back out of the lobby.
 
Is there anything more demoralising than starting in a strong room, you're behind an A+ guy, clean start, you're hitting your apexes like a champ, no errors, pushing hard, managing to hang with him.......... then he pits lap 3 and was on hards the whole time...... like bloody hell.

Had a classic Kosmo situation last night. I was in a race long battle with another driver but opposite strategies, I was leading but knew it would be tight when i came in on lap 7. Sure enough, we are clear of the pack but I enter lap 8 exiting the pits leading by a bee's appendage. I am on hards, he is on 5 lap old mediums. He is obviously faster than me but I have track position, he hits me no less than three times and runs me off at the esses, taking the win, no penalty. Like wtf.

Anothe rrace i was doing really well in a tough, tough room, i come in and accidently hit NO TYRE CHANGE, seriously PD, how hard is it to get this right!!! It's so, so, so mind bendingly stupid.
 
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s there anything more demoralising than starting in a strong room, you're behind an A+ guy, clean start, you're hitting your apexes like a champ, no errors, pushing hard, managing to hang with him.......... then he pits lap 3 and was on hards the whole time...... like bloody hell.
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Off topic, but this reminds me of playing basketball with my friend Scott back in the day. We'd play one-on-one on 8' baskets, I got 2 points per basket and he got 1, and he beat me something like 100-98. Then he had the gall to pull up his sweatpants and show me he was wearing ankle weights the whole time. [expletive]. Just, simply, [expletive].

That was more than 40 years ago and I still remember it. So does he, unfortunately. :lol:
 
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It's still well worth noting that latency plays a significant role in... well quite a lot of these incidents.

At a 0.2s round trip (current server-server ping between LA and Sao Paulo is 180ms), cars travelling at 120mph will be as much as 40 feet away* between position updates, with GT7's netcode basically guessing where the cars are in-between based on most recent inputs and position data (and assuming cars are following the circuit path). That's around three car lengths, and that's just in terms of longitudinal movement; lateral movement is harder to estimate, and what might be six feet of space to you is contact to someone else - and of course vice versa.

Without seeing the replay from their point of view, we don't actually know what they're seeing - your replay only shows their position according to you, not to them - and of course that means there's no objective truth of where each car is. That glancing touch through Advan might have been nothing at all to them, but it's everything to you - while the space you gave earlier might have been door-banging to them.

Short of full fat, full-throttle, Paveway MAD - or straight swerving you into a barrier - you can rarely be sure that any given contact is deliberate, inept, or netcode.

*Also available in other units: 193km/h and 11.7 metres
 
Did some races yesterday. Two in BMW as I it was one of the fastest car around NGP in GT Sport before, it is now not useful with the new BOP for mid fast circuits.
So I did two races in it and two times last. Then I decide to give the 911 a chance as it the dominating car in the race lobbies I've been before. Just three minutes before the race, I did one full lap and found myself in A+ lobby (me with A rating). Maybe it was top or second split.
Was the best race yesterday, very fast lobby, was enough for P11. Tomorrow evening I want more some good races as I like the NGP very much.
 
Famine
It's still well worth noting that latency plays a significant role in... well quite a lot of these incidents.

At a 0.2s round trip (current server-server ping between LA and Sao Paulo is 180ms), cars travelling at 120mph will be as much as 40 feet away* between position updates, with GT7's netcode basically guessing where the cars are in-between based on most recent inputs and position data (and assuming cars are following the circuit path). That's around three car lengths, and that's just in terms of longitudinal movement; lateral movement is harder to estimate, and what might be six feet of space to you is contact to someone else - and of course vice versa.

Without seeing the replay from their point of view, we don't actually know what they're seeing - your replay only shows their position according to you, not to them - and of course that means there's no objective truth of where each car is. That glancing touch through Advan might have been nothing at all to them, but it's everything to you - while the space you gave earlier might have been door-banging to them.

Short of full fat, full-throttle, Paveway MAD - or straight swerving you into a barrier - you can rarely be sure that any given contact is deliberate, inept, or netcode.

*Also available in other units: 193km/h and 11.7 metres
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Thanks for posting this, @Famine. This is an absolute must-read for anyone doing online racing. If, after reading it, you're confused, then just remember this:

The position of other cars around you in an online event is an educated guess by the game. It's a pretty good guess, but it's not always right. So be careful when you assume other drivers' intent. The may literally see things differently from you.
 

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