BruceAlmighty
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Dep Fishtail
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Only had an about 2 hours to spend doing QT and a few race B tonight and it was a mixed bag. Lapped for more than an hour and got consistent low to mid 1:34s so I decided to jump in on my alt as B/S.
The first race stated p6 and by the end of the first few corners got bumped around enough to lose a few positions. Never felt great during the race but worked through it trying to stay out of trouble and fishshed p10 after drag racing a 155 to the line and getting sent to the wall just before the line because it must have been a no passing zone and he was the enforcement.
Second race started further back like p10 or so and had a much better race feeling a lot more confident with control in traffic. Not as many bumps in this one and worked up to p8 or so while staying in front of a chasing 155 to the line.
Race 3 started P11 or so and it went well for 1 lap then a guy got sent wide in T1 by the car in front of me and then he tried to pass in the next turn and took us both out. I scored 2 wall penalties worth a whopping 3 seconds and p16 for the remainder of the race and never gained another position.
I think the B race will get better with time because people seem to be having control issues more than dirty driving. There was some dirty push to pass things going on but all in all I find the track a much better fit for me than Laguna where I was severely off pace all week.
Was good to see TPC_lighting McQueen in all three of my races tonight. He was starting at the back with no QT and working up.
He was moving forwards through the field while I was moving backwards 😜
The first race stated p6 and by the end of the first few corners got bumped around enough to lose a few positions. Never felt great during the race but worked through it trying to stay out of trouble and fishshed p10 after drag racing a 155 to the line and getting sent to the wall just before the line because it must have been a no passing zone and he was the enforcement.
Second race started further back like p10 or so and had a much better race feeling a lot more confident with control in traffic. Not as many bumps in this one and worked up to p8 or so while staying in front of a chasing 155 to the line.
Race 3 started P11 or so and it went well for 1 lap then a guy got sent wide in T1 by the car in front of me and then he tried to pass in the next turn and took us both out. I scored 2 wall penalties worth a whopping 3 seconds and p16 for the remainder of the race and never gained another position.
I think the B race will get better with time because people seem to be having control issues more than dirty driving. There was some dirty push to pass things going on but all in all I find the track a much better fit for me than Laguna where I was severely off pace all week.
Was good to see TPC_lighting McQueen in all three of my races tonight. He was starting at the back with no QT and working up.
He was moving forwards through the field while I was moving backwards 😜
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- Rotterdam
- mcl-1974-2
congrats on that win! Sure a lot of people get nerveous when in the lead. I Know i still do.
I won my very first on-line race in GTS, pretty much by accident while not having a clue what to do. But my second chance came only about 70 races later, that last lap i took the lead and al i could think was 'Do not **** up that last chicane!!' Well, guess, what i did
....nerves got the better of me.Fortunately i got a few more wins, but still get anxious when in the lead. Fortunenately so do many others, I notcied while driving in second place in a recent World series race. A driver was driving so much better and took the lead from me. But once there he started making so many mistakes and i got the lead back easily. Chasing the leader seems to be a bit easier.
have fun and hope you get more wins!
GrumpyOldMan
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Wow, you really do hate it! You sound like me at the start of last week - Laguna just kicked my butt at the start. I guess I just won't have any real competition in QT this week, then (wink, wink). Sigh.
Too bad, because I had a lot of fun when were were competing against each other for QTs. (BTW, the Alfa is working for me.)PS to all my other online friends: No insult intended. Just trying to lure Katt into a QT battle.
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PS to all my other online friends: No insult intended. Just trying to lure Katt into a QT battle.
Hey, what about me? Am I invited, too?😜
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- barrett5
- BarrettMopar
I tried some glitched tunes for race C and improved my time to 2:10.8 which I also ran with my original tune so I began to think tuning didn't matter much at this point but then I changed a few parts to get to exactly 345 hp and added 4 more pounds of ballast to my original tune to get exactly 600 pp with no glitches and immediately improved a tenth. I decided to continue and after a few hundred miles plus slight changes to the suspension and differential got within one millisecond of the top 10 worldwide. At that point I needed a break so decided to watch the fastest lap worldwide and noticed that I was equal through the first minute of the lap. That was enough motivation to continue and about 3 hours later I gained about 3 hundredths of a second to get 10th worldwide.
I don't know if I am the fastest worldwide with a non glitched car but I do know that I can be as fast as any through the part of the track that I'm better at. I also know though how unrealistic all of the competitive tunes are and that makes me hesitant to try and improve more. Nonetheless here's my best lap and tune for now and I may try some last to first attempts on my alt account later.
Not to brag but I think someone can get first place in the world for now with this tune. Good luck in not getting stuck a millisecond from the time you're aiming for.
I don't know if I am the fastest worldwide with a non glitched car but I do know that I can be as fast as any through the part of the track that I'm better at. I also know though how unrealistic all of the competitive tunes are and that makes me hesitant to try and improve more. Nonetheless here's my best lap and tune for now and I may try some last to first attempts on my alt account later.
Not to brag but I think someone can get first place in the world for now with this tune. Good luck in not getting stuck a millisecond from the time you're aiming for.
- 967
- Sydney
- Raptor_Race_13
I can confirm that this is true in real life as well.congrats on that win! Sure a lot of people get nerveous when in the lead. I Know i still do.
I won my very first on-line race in GTS, pretty much by accident while not having a clue what to do. But my second chance came only about 70 races later, that last lap i took the lead and al i could think was 'Do not **** up that last chicane!!' Well, guess, what i did
Fortunately i got a few more wins, but still get anxious when in the lead. Fortunenately so do many others, I notcied while driving in second place in a recent World series race. A driver was driving so much better and took the lead from me. But once there he started making so many mistakes and i got the lead back easily. Chasing the leader seems to be a bit easier.
have fun and hope you get more wins!
I've had races in the real world where when I look back at the on board footage, you can see small and sometimes not so small differences in how I drive depending on if I'm chasing a car, or out in clean air, and those rare occasions when I do hit the race lead the differences are even more noticeable (at least for the first lap or two).
In part we've figured (at least in my case) I need a target to chase as it focuses me better. When I don't have that target ahead of me, I lose that edge and it causes me to over drive the car.
It happens in online racing as well, so I can only imagine that (at least in part) is what is happening to others when I see it happen.
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- paracuru
- praiano63
Nissan Sileighty '98 - 600PP - Sport Soft Tires - Race C Suzuka - 1.27
EDIT: Tune Version 2
Wide car
Rims up to you
Width wide
Offfset Wide
Front A - Side A - Rear A - Wing Custom
I use the fully custom racing gearbox now. It's a lot faster after some test , you have to take out the sport brakes and pads , but it compense for sure. I take out 0.700 of my time yesterday with still some mistakes , a better driver can low to pos 1 i think.
This is the new tune number 2 .
I have a 2:10.547 for the moment.
EDIT: Tune Version 2
Wide car
Rims up to you
Width wide
Offfset Wide
Front A - Side A - Rear A - Wing Custom
I use the fully custom racing gearbox now. It's a lot faster after some test , you have to take out the sport brakes and pads , but it compense for sure. I take out 0.700 of my time yesterday with still some mistakes , a better driver can low to pos 1 i think.
This is the new tune number 2 .
I have a 2:10.547 for the moment.
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- United Kingdom
It's partly psychological and partly as you have more feedback being behind.
First off there's the predator - prey dynamic. As soon as you are into 1st you are no longer chasing, but defending, you feel more vulnerable. You are checking your mirror more instead of looking ahead, your attention is split.
Then there is the fact when you are chasing if you take a corner the same as the car in front and maintain the same gap you are keeping up which although the situation is neutral it is positive and encouraging, you are keeping pressure on. When you are in front and the gap stays the same you feel like you can't shake the car behind and they remain a threat making the situation feel like a negative. The only thing that removes pressure is seeing that gap go up, giving you a cushion for a mistake. The only way to do that is push harder and risk more...
However when you are in front you have to choose the braking point, if you are over cautious the car behind has time to see that and brake slightly later, slowly closing up the gap and increasing the sense of vulnerability.
On the other side being behind isn't all golden, sometimes you brake early to avoid punting the car in front, or have to take less than perfect lines. There is a risk the car in front can go too fast and when you use them as a guide, when they go off you follow in their footsteps, or even they go into a corner too fast and make a sudden adjustment too quick for you to react without stacking it and you go off and they don't (which feels great when you're ahead!).
First off there's the predator - prey dynamic. As soon as you are into 1st you are no longer chasing, but defending, you feel more vulnerable. You are checking your mirror more instead of looking ahead, your attention is split.
Then there is the fact when you are chasing if you take a corner the same as the car in front and maintain the same gap you are keeping up which although the situation is neutral it is positive and encouraging, you are keeping pressure on. When you are in front and the gap stays the same you feel like you can't shake the car behind and they remain a threat making the situation feel like a negative. The only thing that removes pressure is seeing that gap go up, giving you a cushion for a mistake. The only way to do that is push harder and risk more...
However when you are in front you have to choose the braking point, if you are over cautious the car behind has time to see that and brake slightly later, slowly closing up the gap and increasing the sense of vulnerability.
On the other side being behind isn't all golden, sometimes you brake early to avoid punting the car in front, or have to take less than perfect lines. There is a risk the car in front can go too fast and when you use them as a guide, when they go off you follow in their footsteps, or even they go into a corner too fast and make a sudden adjustment too quick for you to react without stacking it and you go off and they don't (which feels great when you're ahead!).
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- hodd10w
Don't worry I'll be putting in some 'work' later today. I see your target 👀 😁Wow, you really do hate it! You sound like me at the start of last week - Laguna just kicked my butt at the start. I guess I just won't have any real competition in QT this week, then (wink, wink). Sigh.
PS to all my other online friends: No insult intended. Just trying to lure Katt into a QT battle.
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Did you recognise the different result screens in the end of a race. Okay, winning or on the podium is obvious. I assume the body language is dependent on your driving performance and you SR. If you have a somewhat clean race thump goes up, no matter if you’re place 8 and it shows if you managed to finish with a better placing. If you had a dirty race, collisions, he doesn’t put the thump up and it doesn’t show if you gained some places. Is it just me or May this be some explanation?🥴🫠
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- Western Sahara
Great to see there's no need for glitches.
For you guys who really know the tuning system and did a lot of testing before this race: what is it that makes the sileighty the best car despite all of them having the same power and weight? Would it be the best car even if there was no restriction on pp?
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- Canada
Struggling the past few weeks for motivation, the races are just not working for me. Gave both A and B last night and... meeeeeeeh.
Race A: Jesus how is the BAC so utterly rubbish to drive? So much understeer, it's on racing tyres and just will not turn. The relentless wheel spinning in 3rd is also annoying, yeah i know use 4th but meh.
Race B: Just no pace at this track, best is a mid 34 which is simply not good enough. The awkward left/right mid lap is so bad, i am either entering or exiting too slow and losing so much time. I dunno, just a MEH track.
Race A: Jesus how is the BAC so utterly rubbish to drive? So much understeer, it's on racing tyres and just will not turn. The relentless wheel spinning in 3rd is also annoying, yeah i know use 4th but meh.
Race B: Just no pace at this track, best is a mid 34 which is simply not good enough. The awkward left/right mid lap is so bad, i am either entering or exiting too slow and losing so much time. I dunno, just a MEH track.
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- TSLA_Driver
I like the Alfa over the WRX, but I know it is slower on the straights. It could be because I have more time with the Alfa, but to me is is more nimble.Wow, you really do hate it! You sound like me at the start of last week - Laguna just kicked my butt at the start. I guess I just won't have any real competition in QT this week, then (wink, wink). Sigh.
PS to all my other online friends: No insult intended. Just trying to lure Katt into a QT battle.
Someone upthread mentioned two hours of QT before racing. Is this what others do as well?
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- Western Sahara
Depends on the combo and my goals for me. If I know the combo well I can usually set a time that's decent for me in 5- 15 minutes max and after that it becomes a matter of squeezing out tenths or hundreths. If it's a combo I have to learn then it can take longer.
If it's all about winning then on most combos starting further up the field is a massive benefit, so then it pays to put in the work on time trial, and that practice will also improve your race pace.
If I just want to have fun racing, then I'm usually happy starting midfield, or even not setting a quali time and going from the back. More fun than driving defensively or finishing in the position I started.
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- GOTMAXPOWER
I'm a bit late but here are my highlights from last weeks race C, as usual I ended up going a bit crazy:
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- United States
Finally got a clear head and some time on my hands. Qualified in Deep Forest at 1.23.8. First race P2 behind a guy who took the name to literally and is going deep on every corner. Pass em up third time around the main straight. Hes a clean racer so I hold first thru the twisties and take off while P3 starts to battle with him. No fast lap but 1st and a CRB. I get an error post race lobby and cant save the replay. It flashes so quickly I'm unable to read it.
Jump in another lobby and I'm Pole! I never get pole. Any time I'm close, they throw me in a DR A lobby so this is a treat..... until the lobby freezes pre-race, wife is on the way home from work now so no more races. I wait it out for minutes hoping it'll start once a few people leave (sometimes works) but nothing.
@skidmark69 In regards to time spent on qualifying; yes, by the end of the week I will have at least 2 hours, maybe 3 in total qualifying laps done. Usually about an hour on my first attempt. This week it was only 40 mins cuz I know this combo. But today or tomorrow I will do another 30-45 mins. Then on my days off I'll probably do 10-20 min brush up sessions before each racing session. But on a track like Laguna Seca, or in a Gr 1 or 2 those are 1 hour a piece.
Jump in another lobby and I'm Pole! I never get pole. Any time I'm close, they throw me in a DR A lobby so this is a treat..... until the lobby freezes pre-race, wife is on the way home from work now so no more races. I wait it out for minutes hoping it'll start once a few people leave (sometimes works) but nothing.
@skidmark69 In regards to time spent on qualifying; yes, by the end of the week I will have at least 2 hours, maybe 3 in total qualifying laps done. Usually about an hour on my first attempt. This week it was only 40 mins cuz I know this combo. But today or tomorrow I will do another 30-45 mins. Then on my days off I'll probably do 10-20 min brush up sessions before each racing session. But on a track like Laguna Seca, or in a Gr 1 or 2 those are 1 hour a piece.
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- Uruguay
- Sinnicko
This week´s C without tuning allowed would be glorious.
Im with you on the street cars in race C. The best week I remember was the Road Atlanta debut with Mazda Roadsters.
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- Canada
I try to set a banker in qualifying before i go online racing, then a 95% hot lap. I search for that last 5% between races.
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- Germany
The grandmaster of close calls, near misses and Moses moves strikes again...
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- Willow Springs
- schlafhund
Rubbish, you say? I think it's quite lovely to drive, the BAC Mono. It's just a shame about that Lago Maggiore track configuration, it's a really poor one, in particular that downhill hairpin...
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- GOTMAXPOWER
I really should apologise to everybody I drove into 🤣
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TheNormsk
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What's wrong with the downhill hairpin? I actually do well there and it is where I tend to overtake people. The turn I'm not so keen on is the slow left hander after the brow of the hill where you turn into in-field. Not sure what turn that is, but grip to turn in is challenging at least.
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GrumpyOldMan
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- Southern California
- dagware
Just had a great battle for 4th place at Deep Forest with a class-act driver. I started P6, got knocked to P11 during a dustup at T1 in lap 2, then literally got back in the race for this epic (to me) battle. We both drove like we were NOT A+ drivers, but it was a ton of fun.
Short 1:16 video, with the boring parts sped up:
Yes, obviously - I was just baiting Kat and you know it! 
I spend a LOT of time on QT (but I'm retired, so I've literally got all day most days). At the beginning of the week, it's so I can run the race without still wondering how to handle everything. But then I really work to get up there in QT, so I get seeded well in the race. If my time is good enough to regularly seed in the top 3, then I don't qualify as much after that unless I start to lose the feel for the track. But "as much" is a relative term - I still run the Q a lot.
And if I've got a battle going with one of my PS friends, well then, all bets are off. Then, Q can be more fun than the actual race!
Short 1:16 video, with the boring parts sped up:
I knew I'd regret saying that.
Yes, obviously - I was just baiting Kat and you know it! To me, the Alfa is definitely easier to drive than the WRX. The fact it's slower on the straights, to me it only really comes into play if we both come out of the corner into the straight the same. So most of the time, it's just a question of who drove better. Not always, of course, but at my B level, this seems to be the case most of the time.
I spend a LOT of time on QT (but I'm retired, so I've literally got all day most days). At the beginning of the week, it's so I can run the race without still wondering how to handle everything. But then I really work to get up there in QT, so I get seeded well in the race. If my time is good enough to regularly seed in the top 3, then I don't qualify as much after that unless I start to lose the feel for the track. But "as much" is a relative term - I still run the Q a lot.
And if I've got a battle going with one of my PS friends, well then, all bets are off. Then, Q can be more fun than the actual race!
Aaaaarrrrgggg! That so totally sucks. I feel your pain.
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I like Deep Forest better in reverse than forwards. This is an oddity for me, but after doing that Daily A in Gr3 cars and the Nations (both D.F. in reverse) that track flows so nicely going clockwise, IMO
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Nope. They have all been compensated by the entertainment value of watching you drive circles around them... 😆
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- United Kingdom
- rodgers1
Wheel users? Can I ask what your Steering Force Feedback is in the game settings?
I’ve been using 8 & 8 for a while and then I dropped it to 7 & 7 which felt better So stuck with that for a while. Last night I happen to find a clip on YT about wheel clipping etc… which then start me to investigate what are the best FF settings for GT7. After reading a few sites and comments etc… the conclusion seems to be that people have the settings on about FF Max Torque on 4/5 and FF Sensitivity anywhere from 2-7. After a bit of trial and error I’ve settled on 4 & 10.
Pros - so far the car handles so much better into corners. Example of thwas Nurburgring GP. The other week in daily races that Final chicane you have to basically launch the car of the right curb and bollard, but i always found the rear would want to spin. After the new FF settings I can launch the car now over that curb and the car is way more settled. I’m wondering if the my settings were too high and I was always fighting the wheel and this unstabled the car?
Negatives - the FF feels weak but I’m sure I will get use to that over a few days. And also my times seem a little slower but I feel like Im a bit more consistent.
I’ve been using 8 & 8 for a while and then I dropped it to 7 & 7 which felt better So stuck with that for a while. Last night I happen to find a clip on YT about wheel clipping etc… which then start me to investigate what are the best FF settings for GT7. After reading a few sites and comments etc… the conclusion seems to be that people have the settings on about FF Max Torque on 4/5 and FF Sensitivity anywhere from 2-7. After a bit of trial and error I’ve settled on 4 & 10.
Pros - so far the car handles so much better into corners. Example of thwas Nurburgring GP. The other week in daily races that Final chicane you have to basically launch the car of the right curb and bollard, but i always found the rear would want to spin. After the new FF settings I can launch the car now over that curb and the car is way more settled. I’m wondering if the my settings were too high and I was always fighting the wheel and this unstabled the car?
Negatives - the FF feels weak but I’m sure I will get use to that over a few days. And also my times seem a little slower but I feel like Im a bit more consistent.
hollowkatt
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I see your bait...Wow, you really do hate it! You sound like me at the start of last week - Laguna just kicked my butt at the start. I guess I just won't have any real competition in QT this week, then (wink, wink). Sigh.
PS to all my other online friends: No insult intended. Just trying to lure Katt into a QT battle.
