GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[KosmoKazi]

You ain’t kidding about race pace in the top splits. I had a Race B yesterday with 1 A/S on the pole and the rest of us in B/S. I started P2. The A/S driver had a 31.9 to my 32.6, however his race pace was almost 2 seconds a lap faster than me. He finished P1 with a 10+ second gap to me and I finished P2 with a 10 second gap to P3.

I’ve finished P2 and P3 in most of the races I’ve done this week. Almost every race has had P1 untouchable after lap 1.

I take a lot of pride in being able to keep up with my qualifying pace in the races, relatively well. If I put in a QT, I can usually match it pretty consistently, so when I get to the race, I should be able to hold station or attack a little in the race.

Some people really struggle to be fast when things aren't perfect... when traffic and avoiding messes mean you can't run a qualifying line around the track. Being able to trade off the imperfections in a race lap to keep time is something that I really enjoy.

Did I have to brake earlier to avoid someone on entry? OK, dial in a little later apex and add exit speed to recover a bit in the next stretch. Am I too close to make a move inside the next turn? OK, ease off a bit, carry more apex speed on average, then use the draft to set up something next braking zone. I like these challenges from turn to turn.

It's just that my QT are not always fast enough to start up front, which is probably how I see more trouble than others...

That's what's made DTG fun this week, I've been able to start up front and stay with the leaders most races.

 

[NevilleNobody]

THat's where i struggle. My QT is usually me using every mm of track so in traffic, if i can't take those lines, i understeer and i am slow.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

While my better results usually come from racecraft

I had to read that a few times. I thought "spacecraft? What the heck?" LOL.

I think there is also a lot of skill in racing close with people at max pace, without taking each other out, and then being ready when there's a bobble.

hard, close racing at the front, at 9.5/10 speed, pushing every corner, but not taking the other guy out... even if he makes a mistake (which people seem to think is ok... as if running a qualifying lap every lap, and running over someone if they have the slightest hiccup is ok).

I totally agree. Just had a good race for P2. The 911 in front spun out a little on one of the last turns, and I didn't judge it right and hit him. It really was his fault for spinning out, but I waited on the side of the track for him and we finished 4-5. It was the right thing for me to do, and I even said I was sorry because truthfully I had enough time to not hit him - I just didn't react quick enough. But it's a good thing he could see my face when I apologized, because I was gritting my teeth.

Still, like you said, not a valid reason to hit him. It would have been pretty cool if I had avoided him, but that's life.

I take a lot of pride in being able to keep up with my qualifying pace in the races, relatively well. If I put in a QT, I can usually match it pretty consistently, so when I get to the race, I should be able to hold station or attack a little in the race.

That's very cool, and I envy you. The problem for a lot of us lesser-skilled drivers (I'm a high B) is that a lot of the time, we're not quite sure how we accomplished a good QT, and we don't know how to duplicate it. So it's not always about driving a lot differently during the actual race - sometimes it's about having a QT that's over our heads!

Did I have to brake earlier to avoid someone on entry? OK, dial in a little later apex and add exit speed to recover a bit in the next stretch.

And there's the thing I envy the most about good drivers. Most of us "mortals" struggle just to make the hard turns at a good speed without spinning out. Thinking about changing the line like you said is totally out of our league. It's like watching MLB batters being able to recognize pitches by the spin on it, where most of us would be happy to just not spike ourselves.

I guess I'm just saying that I appreciate that level of skill.

 

[Mercia]

This may be too obvious, but are you getting caught in their draft and losing grip? That always seems to be what gets me when I’m too close to the car ahead: I forget to add braking distance and change my lines.

It's definitely possible but again I wasn't having this issue with anyone else, I was happy to run in traffic and had no issues giving space to other cars in front without losing my own front end or overdriving the turn... Maybe the corvette, which you don't see in this race really, distributes air behind it in a unique way? I'm not sure how deep the game goes into that part of the simulation.

 

[sturk0167]

I have no pace compared to the rest of the lobby.

If I'm in another high rank lobby tomorrow I'll be done for the week. It's not fun when I'm getting left behind each race.

It really bums me out to see this happening.
Low participation is a big problem for GT7 dailies, that really wasn't much of an issue for GT Sport.
I think there are a couple of reasons for it.

Firstly, there are tons of players who still can't find, or can't afford the PS5 console, and, or the GT7 game.
There are also a lot of players who are playing the game on PS4 consoles. For the most part, they are segregated from the PS5 users in the dailies.
Some of the PS4 users are still just playing GT Sport everyday.

In GT Sport, it was unusual for a B driver to be put into the top-split races. A lot of times, a low A couldn't even get in.
I remember plenty of times when I wanted to race with high ranked friends, but couldn't make the cut for their lobby because even though I was DR A, my SR was a low S (89-80). Now, the driver count is so low (in the American region) that I routinely see races with 4 A+s, 7 As, and 5 Bs. The gap in qualifying times is huge.

I always assume there is gonna be someone at the back, feeling like you do, regarding the mismatch, and we'll end up losing more drivers. You deserve to have a competitive race, but I don't know if anyone is trying to fix it, or if it's fixable.
Hopefully, it will just improve over time, organically.

Keep your chin up. 👍

 

[CMB350]

Some people really struggle to be fast when things aren't perfect... when traffic and avoiding messes mean you can't run a qualifying line around the track. Being able to trade off the imperfections in a race lap to keep time is something that I really enjoy.

Did I have to brake earlier to avoid someone on entry? OK, dial in a little later apex and add exit speed to recover a bit in the next stretch. Am I too close to make a move inside the next turn? OK, ease off a bit, carry more apex speed on average, then use the draft to set up something next braking zone. I like these challenges from turn to turn.

I’ve always assumed most B level drivers struggle with this. The 1st lap accidents I’m traditionally involved in always seem to be because the driver can’t separate race laps from qualifying laps.

I really enjoy pushing people and watching them make mistakes or keep their cool from my pressure of being right on their bumper. Last night, I had a friendly conversation post race with another driver and he said I got him sweating from the pressure of trying to keep in front for the last few laps. I just drove my fastest race laps and let what happens happen. It really makes the game fun and what brings me back often.

 

[hollowkatt]

I’ve always assumed most B level drivers struggle with this. The 1st lap accidents I’m traditionally involved in always seem to be because the driver can’t separate race laps from qualifying laps.

I really enjoy pushing people and watching them make mistakes or keep their cool from my pressure of being right on their bumper. Last night, I had a friendly conversation post race with another driver and he said I got him sweating from the pressure of trying to keep in front for the last few laps. I just drove my fastest race laps and let what happens happen. It really makes the game fun and what brings me back often.

What you've said is why I gravitate towards cars that may be overall slower in pace but I find easier to control. If I can more easily control the car I can more easily put it places where I need to be either to avoid, be faster than the next driver, or otherwise go for an overtake/not be overtaken.

If I can qualify well in a fast but twitchy/hard to control car my racecraft suffers because I'm accustomed to the line I QT with and it's harder to react to what the racers around me are doing. If I can qualify slightly slower but in a car I'm more comfortable shifting lines with I find my racecraft is better.

There's something to be said for the skillset of A/A+ drivers who can take the twitchy car and put it wherever they want whenever they want, that's amazing. I don't have that set so I pick a slower more controllable car and try to enjoy wringing time out of that.

edit to add: just because a car like the GT-R or Porsche is the meta doesn't mean "you" (player reading this post) can't be faster in a different car you like better/is easier for you to drive. Pick the car you're best with, not the fastest car. Being beholden to the "meta car" sometimes makes things worse

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

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[hollowkatt]

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it sure is our Grumpy!

 

[CMB350]

What you've said is why I gravitate towards cars that may be overall slower in pace but I find easier to control. If I can more easily control the car I can more easily put it places where I need to be either to avoid, be faster than the next driver, or otherwise go for an overtake/not be overtaken.

I enjoy Gr4 cars over Gr3 cars for exactly what you said. I understand why people don’t like Gr4, but for me, I find them to be the sweet spot for me in this game. I am, however, enjoying this week in the Gr3 cars.

 

[KosmoKazi]

What you've said is why I gravitate towards cars that may be overall slower in pace but I find easier to control. If I can more easily control the car I can more easily put it places where I need to be either to avoid, be faster than the next driver, or otherwise go for an overtake/not be overtaken.

If I can qualify well in a fast but twitchy/hard to control car my racecraft suffers because I'm accustomed to the line I QT with and it's harder to react to what the racers around me are doing. If I can qualify slightly slower but in a car I'm more comfortable shifting lines with I find my racecraft is better.

There's something to be said for the skillset of A/A+ drivers who can take the twitchy car and put it wherever they want whenever they want, that's amazing. I don't have that set so I pick a slower more controllable car and try to enjoy wringing time out of that.

edit to add: just because a car like the GT-R or Porsche is the meta doesn't mean "you" (player reading this post) can't be faster in a different car you like better/is easier for you to drive. Pick the car you're best with, not the fastest car. Being beholden to the "meta car" sometimes makes things worse

100%. I really get on well in the Porsche. And one of my best races ever was a Nations FIA win in the RSR when the Supra was the consensus META.

Being consistent and avoiding trouble is half the battle to get to an A rating.

Being fast is the other half and I’m still working on that!

I enjoy Gr4 cars over Gr3 cars for exactly what you said. I understand why people don’t like Gr4, but for me, I find them to be the sweet spot for me in this game. I am, however, enjoying this week in the Gr3 cars.

On GTS, when I could track my QT pace with Kudosprime, I kept track of the data on my own, so I could compare my performance in Gr3 vs G4 and the rest.

I was about 1.5-1.9% off in Gr4, compared to top times, while I was about 2.4-2.9% off in Gr3. I could squeeze a good time at my best tracks to just over 1% in Gr4, and maybe 2.0% in Gr3.

But the ease and consistency of Gr4 cars definitely let you be more consistent, and the window for error is much more forgiving. More of a momentum challenge in many cases, whereas Gr3 make you work them harder for max pace.

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

I enjoy Gr4 cars over Gr3 cars for exactly what you said. I understand why people don’t like Gr4, but for me, I find them to be the sweet spot for me in this game. I am, however, enjoying this week in the Gr3 cars.

I think GR.4 makes a lot more sense when you treat the race as a 1 make race vs a multiple make race if that makes sense. It's almost always the same car at the top and this week it happens to be the TT. Usually its the 155, GTR or WRX. But two weeks back it was multiple. That's the outlier. The races in GR4 also have a very different approach than the GR3 ones. More about maximizing bumps and slipstream and less about dissecting the corners and messing with the proper gears at entry and exit. Totally different strategies in the groups I think.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Did you know you can fly at Dragon Trail? Well, you can. 15 second clip:

@GrumpyOldMan is this you at 1:50.30?

Yep that's me, driving like a n00b. Not one of my better races, to say the least. The livery looks nice, though!

 

[TheNormsk]

Did you know you can fly at Dragon Trail? Well, you can. 15 second clip:


Yep that's me, driving like a n00b. Not one of my better races, to say the least. The livery looks nice, though!

I'm impressed that you held the landing and didn't totally wipe out. Well done! 👍

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

This race I was the only DR/B driver, in a sea of A and A+. I'm going to try to intentionally lower my SR, because this is just silly.

I'll look back through this thread, but have we decided on the quickest and easiest way to lower your SR? I assume my DR will go down too, but honestly, it's not fun being stuck in the middle of the lobby of A/A+ players each time, just because there aren't enough SR S drivers in the pool. I've got a good QT for a DR B driver, and I'd like to take advantage of it in some races.

I'm impressed that you held the landing and didn't totally wipe out. Well done! 👍

Thanks! I only lost that one position, too. Well, until later on in the race when instead of flying I tried icegrass skating.

 

[hollowkatt]

This race I was the only DR/B driver, in a sea of A and A+. I'm going to try to intentionally lower my SR, because this is just silly.

I'll look back through this thread, but have we decided on the quickest and easiest way to lower your SR? I assume my DR will go down too, but honestly, it's not fun being stuck in the middle of the lobby of A/A+ players each time, just because there aren't enough SR S drivers in the pool. I've got a good QT for a DR B driver, and I'd like to take advantage of it in some races.

Thanks! I only lost that one position, too. Well, until later on in the race when instead of flying I tried icegrass skating.

probably the quickest way that isn't going to impact others races would be to take massive wall and off track penalties

 

[jimihemmy]

If I'm in another high rank lobby tomorrow I'll be done for the week. It's not fun when I'm getting left behind each race.

Keep racing! While you may think that you are being left behind, eventually you will start hanging with them and occasionally beating them. The better competition will only make you better. It may be hard to notice when you are on the back half of the grid but you are unconsciously learning things that will click on track. Just following a faster racer and trying to keep up will teach you things....

 

[W1gglyStyl3]

Never would’ve thought the 50th sport mode win would be brought home by a FF car. But I’ll take it✌🏻

 

[Stilva]

It really bums me out to see this happening.
Low participation is a big problem for GT7 dailies, that really wasn't much of an issue for GT Sport.
I think there are a couple of reasons for it.

Firstly, there are tons of players who still can't find, or can't afford the PS5 console, and, or the GT7 game.
There are also a lot of players who are playing the game on PS4 consoles. For the most part, they are segregated from the PS5 users in the dailies.
Some of the PS4 users are still just playing GT Sport everyday.

In GT Sport, it was unusual for a B driver to be put into the top-split races. A lot of times, a low A couldn't even get in.
I remember plenty of times when I wanted to race with high ranked friends, but couldn't make the cut for their lobby because even though I was DR A, my SR was a low S (89-80). Now, the driver count is so low (in the American region) that I routinely see races with 4 A+s, 7 As, and 5 Bs. The gap in qualifying times is huge.

I always assume there is gonna be someone at the back, feeling like you do, regarding the mismatch, and we'll end up losing more drivers. You deserve to have a competitive race, but I don't know if anyone is trying to fix it, or if it's fixable.
Hopefully, it will just improve over time, organically.

Keep your chin up. 👍

It's unfortunate that the player count is low that it keeps happening. I have no control over that, so it is what it is. Even with the lobby mismatches, I'm still doing my best to be competitive. Like when I was defending my position last night, I was having a good time. I knew they would get me eventually, but I wasn't going down without a fight.

My pace issues are that I don't know the track well enough to keep up. I was getting thrown off, literally and figuratively, with the bump before turn 6 after the downhill section. Plus, my lines are far from optimal for Willow Springs. I don't have many laps here as I usually avoided this track in the past.

I'm still having fun with the Daily Races even with me being outclassed more recently. Both Daytona races, Road Atlanta, Watkins Glen, and LeMans in the past few weeks have been some of the best racing I've had. Mainly clean and some good battles with other respectful drivers. Good fun in my opinion.

I'm going to keep participating in the online racing and just do my best and not get worked up over stuff I can't control. It's only a game in the end, why you have to be mad?



Thank you for coming to my TED Talk, and perhaps I'll see you out on the track in the future.

 

[sturk0167]

I'll look back through this thread, but have we decided on the quickest and easiest way to lower your SR?

Turn around and go the wrong direction on the track. Soon you will get a warning that you'll be disqualified soon.
Turn back around and go the correct direction, until the warning goes away. Repeat
You won't harm anyone else, because you'll be a ghost when they lap you.
Each time you get the warning, you take an SR hit. If you do it 25 times during a race, your rating will get HAMMERED!
Then quit the race before it ends, for an extra deduction.

 

[hollowkatt]

ugh I knew the day would come when my C class wins would translate to a B class rating. Unfortunately that day was today. I started 3rd. I knew I could hang with the drivers in front as they weren't miles faster than I was. That said I got absolutely pile driven into T1 hard enough that I hit the wall even on full hammered brakes. The guy waited for me which was cool but we went from 3rd/4th to last and quit

nbd recovery drive time. Managed to finish 8th or something like that which is fine, passed a couple drivers on pace and the rest via accidents/penalties. Had some really spicy driving with a porsche and a nissan, ended up being held up a lot by the porsche and accidentally bumped him at the 2nd part of the left left left section. He slammed my door back as a "hey that was dumb" and yeah, it was dumb. I let my car get away from myself there.

I tried slowing but he was slow to catch up so I finally just left. Then almost got the nissan through the last corner of the circuit b/c I carried so much more speed than he did but holy cow is that car fast on the straights. I was almost ahead enough to pull in front but then he just shifts and goes.

good times but definitely in tougher lobbies now. Kept my B rating though which is nice. Back up to a B/A rating from C/B earlier today.

 

[OJBrit]

I had to read that a few times. I thought "spacecraft? What the heck?" LOL.

Where do you think the aliens live? 👽

 

[D Quick]

ugh I knew the day would come when my C class wins would translate to a B class rating. Unfortunately that day was today. I started 3rd. I knew I could hang with the drivers in front as they weren't miles faster than I was. That said I got absolutely pile driven into T1 hard enough that I hit the wall even on full hammered brakes. The guy waited for me which was cool but we went from 3rd/4th to last and quit

nbd recovery drive time. Managed to finish 8th or something like that which is fine, passed a couple drivers on pace and the rest via accidents/penalties. Had some really spicy driving with a porsche and a nissan, ended up being held up a lot by the porsche and accidentally bumped him at the 2nd part of the left left left section. He slammed my door back as a "hey that was dumb" and yeah, it was dumb. I let my car get away from myself there.

I tried slowing but he was slow to catch up so I finally just left. Then almost got the nissan through the last corner of the circuit b/c I carried so much more speed than he did but holy cow is that car fast on the straights. I was almost ahead enough to pull in front but then he just shifts and goes.

good times but definitely in tougher lobbies now. Kept my B rating though which is nice. Back up to a B/A rating from C/B earlier today.

I'm a mid to low B driver, always happy with a top 5 and a podium is a win for me. Everytime I drop down to C I pick up a few wins and it's a great feeling but by the end of the week racing in good B lobbies I come out a much better racer.

Starting out the week my QT time was 1:33 flat. Race pace was 1:35, then 1:34, and now 1:33s. To scared to improve my QT. Still no wins this week though.

 

[TheNormsk]

ugh I knew the day would come when my C class wins would translate to a B class rating.

good times but definitely in tougher lobbies now. Kept my B rating though which is nice. Back up to a B/A rating from C/B earlier today.

I moved from C to B last night as well and that kind of worries me. I read you get a 1200 pts bump when you transition but I fear my next race I will be against much faster drivers and it won't be long before I am C again.. Though the last two races went much better after drinking a beer earlier in the evening! Less nerves?

I'm a mid to low B driver, always happy with a top 5 and a podium is a win for me. Everytime I drop down to C I pick up a few wins and it's a great feeling but by the end of the week racing in good B lobbies I come out a much better racer.

Starting out the week my QT time was 1:33 flat. Race pace was 1:35, then 1:34, and now 1:33s. To scared to improve my QT. Still no wins this week though.

For B, I also QT at 1:33(.056) but I can't seem to break into the 1:32s. During race, I don't think I've got into the 1:33s yet. Certainly can hit 1:34 when track is clear but usually with traffic it is more 1:36s. Think this might not be quick enough for DR B races... Though, that said, I've certainly beat plenty of Bs in the last couple of days, but no 1st place yet... I always slip back at least 1 spot.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

probably the quickest way that isn't going to impact others races would be to take massive wall and off track penalties

My last race I tried hit the wall a bunch of times. Most of them on purpose. 🙄 I'll try your suggestion if I mess up in another race.

Keep racing! While you may think that you are being left behind, eventually you will start hanging with them and occasionally beating them. The better competition will only make you better. It may be hard to notice when you are on the back half of the grid but you are unconsciously learning things that will click on track. Just following a faster racer and trying to keep up will teach you things....

That's actually a great point - I hadn't really thought about learning from the drivers in front (which is silly, because I used to do that when I first started).

good times but definitely in tougher lobbies now. Kept my B rating though which is nice. Back up to a B/A rating from C/B earlier today

You're good enough to keep it. If not this time, next time, but I have no worries about you. Thank God you're not using the controller anymore, or I wouldn't be able to touch your times. 😛

Where do you think the aliens live? 👽

That is the funniest thing I've read in a long time!

I moved from C to B last night as well and that kind of worries me. I read you get a 1200 pts bump when you transition but I fear my next race I will be against much faster drivers and it won't be long before I am C again..

When I moved up to A, that was my thought also. But they do actually give you enough points to maintain it, as long as you don't completely lose confidence in yourself.

Certainly can hit 1:34 when track is clear

To me, that seems about normal. My time is 1:32.074 but that was lights-out - my normal Q time is closer to 1:33 or more. When I turned mid-to-high-1:33s in the race I had a little while ago (from pole position), I was thrilled. Normal for me in a race would be in the 1:34s. So I think the times you're talking about - between your Q time and lap times, sounds about right.

Remember that when you race, the car is heavier from the full fuel tank, and the tires start out cold. And there's traffic. And distractions. And nerves. So unless you're an alien, it's probably not reasonable to expect to match your Q times in a race. (Although I did do that once - once, in a race. Yes, I'm still bragging about it.)

 

[D Quick]

I moved from C to B last night as well and that kind of worries me. I read you get a 1200 pts bump when you transition but I fear my next race I will be against much faster drivers and it won't be long before I am C again.. Though the last two races went much better after drinking a beer earlier in the evening! Less nerves?

For B, I also QT at 1:33(.056) but I can't seem to break into the 1:32s. During race, I don't think I've got into the 1:33s yet. Certainly can hit 1:34 when track is clear but usually with traffic it is more 1:36s. Think this might not be quick enough for DR B races... Though, that said, I've certainly beat plenty of Bs in the last couple of days, but no 1st place yet... I always slip back at least 1 spot.

I probably gain around 3-6 position per race, maybe a total of 50ish positions this week. I think I've only made 2 or three actual racing passes the rest is just feeding off others mistakes. I just tell myself to stay clean and trust that I'm going as fast as I can.

 

[Talon16]

This race I was the only DR/B driver, in a sea of A and A+. I'm going to try to intentionally lower my SR, because this is just silly.

I'll look back through this thread, but have we decided on the quickest and easiest way to lower your SR? I assume my DR will go down too, but honestly, it's not fun being stuck in the middle of the lobby of A/A+ players each time, just because there aren't enough SR S drivers in the pool. I've got a good QT for a DR B driver, and I'd like to take advantage of it in some races.

Thanks! I only lost that one position, too. Well, until later on in the race when instead of flying I tried icegrass skating.

Just going to throw this out there, but that's how you get better... racing with people who are faster than you. I've been there, man. Going from up top in Y rated lobbies to barely holding on to the bottom in the Y+1 rated lobbies. After some more work, you'll be in the middle, then up to the top. Top 5s, podiums, and wins will follow, and it feels that much better!

I still remember my first A & A+ rated wins: Gr4 GTR at Trial Mountain (then backed up five days later in the Gr3 Beetle at Kyoto) and the Gr3 911 RSR at Nurb GT, respectfully.

You do you man! If you're having fun with the game then disregard everything I just said. But, if you want to get faster one way to do it is race with people who are faster than you.

 

[hollowkatt]

I'm a mid to low B driver, always happy with a top 5 and a podium is a win for me. Everytime I drop down to C I pick up a few wins and it's a great feeling but by the end of the week racing in good B lobbies I come out a much better racer.

Starting out the week my QT time was 1:33 flat. Race pace was 1:35, then 1:34, and now 1:33s. To scared to improve my QT. Still no wins this week though.

for sure! I'm sure if I wasn't punted into T1 I'd have been competitive with the top 2 drivers in my lobby today. I can run consistent 1:33s in race trim with the occasional low 1:33 almost 1:32. It's more that the car I'm using really wants to be in clean air/pick it's line more than some of the other cars available.

To me, that seems about normal. My time is 1:32.074 but that was lights-out - my normal Q time is closer to 1:33 or more. When I turned mid-to-high-1:33s in the race I had a little while ago (from pole position), I was thrilled. Normal for me in a race would be in the 1:34s. So I think the times you're talking about - between your Q time and lap times, sounds about right.

Remember that when you race, the car is heavier from the full fuel tank, and the tires start out cold. And there's traffic. And distractions. And nerves. So unless you're an alien, it's probably not reasonable to expect to match your Q times in a race. (Although I did do that once - once, in a race. Yes, I'm still bragging about it.)

That's another reason I really love the BRZ here. The delta between "ideal qualy conditions" and "race trim" is really really small. My "alien" QT is a mid 32. My race pace is mid to low 33 with a sprinkling of 34/35 for traffic/adjusting my line.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Just going to throw this out there, but that's how you get better... racing with people who are faster than you. I've been there, man. Going from up top in Y rated lobbies to barely holding on to the bottom in the Y+1 rated lobbies. After some more work, you'll be in the middle, then up to the top. Top 5s, podiums, and wins will follow, and it feels that much better!

I still remember my first A & A+ rated wins: Gr4 GTR at Trial Mountain (then backed up five days later in the Gr3 Beetle at Kyoto) and the Gr3 911 RSR at Nurb GT, respectfully.

You do you man! If you're having fun with the game then disregard everything I just said. But, if you want to get faster one way to do it is race with people who are faster than you.

Absolutely, thanks! I need to focus on what I can learn.

I can run consistent 1:33s in race trim with the occasional low 1:33 almost 1:32.

Honestly, that's better than I usually do. I don't know why that hasn't translated into lower QTs for you - I'm not criticizing your QTs, you know, it's just that if you run consistent 1:33s during the races, I'd expect you to be beating my QT. It'll be happening soon enough, I'm sure.

 

[hollowkatt]

Absolutely, thanks! I need to focus on what I can learn.

Honestly, that's better than I usually do. I don't know why that hasn't translated into lower QTs for you - I'm not criticizing your QTs, you know, it's just that if you run consistent 1:33s during the races, I'd expect you to be beating my QT. It'll be happening soon enough, I'm sure.

It's a goal for sure but honestly I'm not sure how much pace is left in the car for me. I'm experimenting with different shift points now, different approach and exit angles for corners, seeing where I can try to make pace. Still pretty solidly in the mid 32s but consistently in the mid 32s which I'm happy with.

I think the reason my QT and Race Pace are so close is I'm close to getting the max out of the car for me and the car is incredibly easy to drive. Like there's only three corners on the lap where I'm even close to tentative on throttle. Exit of T2, Hairpin, and Exit of the chicane (not the right hander headed into the last turn, the left). Everywhere else it's literally floor it and go