GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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All in all, I like that old farts like us can still compete...😆

And finding this forum was the best thing that could have happened. I can't even begin to describe all the things I've learned here.
I like this forum and I like your post. I'm also an old fart, actually a slow old fart, compared to you, and knowing that I'm not the only once-young to play the game, enjoy, try to learn and improve is energizing me.
I don't know if I will ever be as fast as you, I will probably not, but I will improve and enjoy my improvements

Thanks
 
zjn
I like this forum and I like your post. I'm also an old fart, actually a slow old fart, compared to you, and knowing that I'm not the only once-young to play the game, enjoy, try to learn and improve is energizing me.
I don't know if I will ever be as fast as you, I will probably not, but I will improve and enjoy my improvements

Thanks
One thing I've really enjoyed are the friendships I've made here that translated into friendships on the track. Some of us have even friended each other so we see our friends qualifying times and can push to get faster with a target time in mind. I've been playing GT since 1 came out, I'm now 45. Not as old as our friend Grumpy but getting up there for sure compared to the youngsters around here.

Honestly, this forum is a great resource for lots of things, not just conversation. I have found setups, knowledgeable players to bounce ideas off of, tech/gear tips for upgrading from controllers to rigs with wheels, all sorts of great things. We're glad you're here and we hope to see you on the track!
 
zjn
I cannot understand how is possible to have drivers with such a low rating (ex: Onabee) being able to set such a time.
Are we speaking of Race B? If I recall properly I have a 1:34.2 as a low C. If I can make it in the 31 no way I am C anymore.
Am I missing something?
When I started this week my ratings were C/B but I could set a QT of 1:32:7xx, which put me at the front of my C/B lobbies. Now I'm a B/A. Entirely possible that Onabee in the screenshot is newer to the game but still skilled wheeling a car in general. Could be they had a really bad week the week before which can drop your ratings for sure, I'm proof lol

And sometimes you just get on a "Lap of the Gods" and have no idea how to replicate it OR drive near it during race time.
 
When I started this week my ratings were C/B but I could set a QT of 1:32:7xx, which put me at the front of my C/B lobbies. Now I'm a B/A. Entirely possible that Onabee in the screenshot is newer to the game but still skilled wheeling a car in general. Could be they had a really bad week the week before which can drop your ratings for sure, I'm proof lol

And sometimes you just get on a "Lap of the Gods" and have no idea how to replicate it OR drive near it during race time.
I'd assume that he is on an alternate account.
 
I completely rebooted my approach to online race.
I'm setting up my mind so that if I reach a Q-time X I do not try to run the race faster than X+1s
I don't mind the rating, I don't mind being overtaken, I just focus on pace, and stay out of trouble (and hopefully do not create trouble to others)
I feel I'm enjoying more than before, on average I'm less frustrated by pushing too much and make errors, or putting myself in bad overtake/overtaken situation.
My goal for the race is a clean race badge, which I still don't get, the most of the times.

Lot of my races "end" quite quicky at the first turn, or when the pack is still...packed
and I end up asking myself why always happen to me to be punt by someone, hitting the barrier, getting penalities and spending one whole day to manouver to get the car back on the track.

I think I had an answer yesterday. Starting P12 in race B I saw in front of me, at the very top positions, some smoke, some congestion. I was still far away, not yet at the brake point.
So a went on brake a bit early and I think I reached the approach of the first of the two 90° at a proper speed to handle the turn giving myself some room to avoid contact. Ok until now, I guess, but couple of seconds later I was in the barrier just in the middle of the second 90°
My analisys is that I was probably ok in terms of reactions to the caos in front of me, but was way too slow in switching back to normal, if you know what I mean.

When I will be able to find a good trade-off between over reations and under reactions to events my races will be probably more satisfying and better result will come
 
One thing I've really enjoyed are the friendships I've made here that translated into friendships on the track. Some of us have even friended each other so we see our friends qualifying times and can push to get faster with a target time in mind.
This is key. Since I friended some of you this week, I went back to so some International License tests I'd not done yet. Now seeing "friend" times on the board gives me a real confidence boost when I see that I completes text x faster than some of you! Also lets me know where I stack up in QT on the dailies. I know some of you are super fast and I would be seconds down in the first lap..., and others I am competitive with.
And sometimes you just get on a "Lap of the Gods" and have no idea how to replicate it OR drive near it during race time.
For me it was a session thing. I got in a grove and pumped out a great QT after getting quicker and quicker per lap. Then coming back some hours later, I was never able to get within a 1/2 second of that again...
I'd assume that he is on an alternate account.
Why do people do this? Do they have a "hard core" account that is only for serious racing and then have a "drunk" account for casual fun times...?
 
zjn
I cannot understand how is possible to have drivers with such a low rating (ex: Onabee) being able to set such a time.
Are we speaking of Race B? If I recall properly I have a 1:34.2 as a low C. If I can make it in the 31 no way I am C anymore.
Am I missing something?
Back in the day, on GT Sport when I use to drive like a lunatic, and have a bloodlust for revenge, there were times when I would be A/S rated at the start of a race, and then D/E at the end.
Low rated drivers with fast times are often ones who got in SR trouble. :mad:
 
zjn
I'm setting up my mind so that if I reach a Q-time X I do not try to run the race faster than X+1s
I don't mind the rating, I don't mind being overtaken, I just focus on pace, and stay out of trouble (and hopefully do not create trouble to others)
I think this is a good strategy and one I will try to remember.
zjn
Lot of my races "end" quite quicky at the first turn, or when the pack is still...packed
and I end up asking myself why always happen to me to be punt by someone, hitting the barrier, getting penalities and spending one whole day to manouver to get the car back on the track.
I thought that until I started to look at replays. Then I realized that wipeouts can happen to anyone and sometimes it seems everyone. I've been in B races with A and A+ drivers where the A and A+ have crashed out or taken themselves out. Not often but it happens. Sometime I think that was a really clean race until I look at the replay and find that it was carnage behind me. You just never know.
 
Why do people do this? Do they have a "hard core" account that is only for serious racing and then have a "drunk" account for casual fun times...?
I created a second account when I bought my wheel and rig so that I could start the game over from the beginning and learn my new tools instead of replicating things I've already done, with already set times, that I couldn't reach while learning the tools.

I raced that account for about a month straight in single player just relearning how to be fast with the tools, then went back to my main account for multiplayer racing. I think that's a great way of doing it. I didn't have prior HK times to try to reach/exceed, just set new times, learn the tools, get good.

Now that I'm confident and happy with the tools I moved back to my main and I race there. I'm still learning, still improving, still trying to figure out how to be faster, but I don't have that pressure of "I set Time X with a controller but I'm 3 seconds off with a wheel what am I doing this is dumb".

Others have second accounts in different regions so they can race with overseas friends easier/not the same people over and over again.
 
So in race C you have to short-shift if you wanna be competitive? I was pretty good in A/A+ lobby on mediums for 12 laps (6th place), when I got out of the box I was 10th and only through disaster up front finished 9th. I made no mistakes, no one in front of me went to box first but ended up losing places.
 
My C and B lobbies with the A and A+ drivers have been at 1am or later. Only weirdos are up at that time!
I resemble that comment! :lol:
But the ultimate question is, will driving in my GrumpyOldMan socks make me a better driver, just like Grumpy here? 😁
Those are awesome! I can't race in socks, but if I could, I'd buy those for sure.
zjn
I like this forum and I like your post. I'm also an old fart, actually a slow old fart, compared to you, and knowing that I'm not the only once-young to play the game, enjoy, try to learn and improve is energizing me.
zjn
I don't know if I will ever be as fast as you, I will probably not, but I will improve and enjoy my improvements
You have no idea how humorous I find this. I appreciate the compliment, but read on for the truth. :)

GT7 is the first and only racing sim game I've ever played (Pole Position doesn't count). I got it a few months after it came out. I had no idea what I was doing, and still don't to a large degree. But I'm retired, and once I got up the courage to try the online portion, I've been averaging as much as 50 races per week.

So, any good QTs I get are due more to brute force, just driving over and over again. Half the time I have no idea how I managed to get a good time. OK, I suppose that's not completely true, but you know what I mean. Reps, as opposed to skill, is all I'm saying.

So when you complimented me on being fast, I automatically get a case of "imposter syndrome". So that's why I laughed at your comment.
zjn
I cannot understand how is possible to have drivers with such a low rating (ex: Onabee) being able to set such a time.
Are we speaking of Race B? If I recall properly I have a 1:34.2 as a low C. If I can make it in the 31 no way I am C anymore.
As others have said, I'm sure it was an alternate account.
Why do people do this? Do they have a "hard core" account that is only for serious racing and then have a "drunk" account for casual fun times...?
Others have commented on this, but for me, I use my second account for when I know my DR/SR is going to suffer drastically, because the course is a wreck-fest. Haven't used it recently, though.
 
The qualifying. When I began using the ghosts of quick drivers instead of only my own, my times improved rapidly. And I studied them before driving: where does he brake? where does he shift? That corner exit in 3rd or better in 4th gear? And so on. And today I've learned enough of that that I mostly don't need other drivers ghosts anymore, I find my quickest lines by myself.
The main issue I have with these ghosts and one of my gripes on the matter is that these ghosts only really benefit the top guys. Only the top 200 or so times constantly have ghosts that are loadable and after that you might be lucky to find a ghost maybe every 4 tenths to half second or so down the leaderboard.
I generally find myself around the 2000-3000 range of QT times and can never find a good ghost that is faster than me but close enough that it will be of benefit. The problem for me when I load a ghost from the first couple of pages is that after the first couple of turns, the ghost is so far in front of me that it is of no benefit anymore.
It would be nice to see more ghosts further down the leaderboard as these are the guys that could probably benefit from it the most!
 
The main issue I have with these ghosts and one of my gripes on the matter is that these ghosts only really benefit the top guys. Only the top 200 or so times constantly have ghosts that are loadable and after that you might be lucky to find a ghost maybe every 4 tenths to half second or so down the leaderboard.
I generally find myself around the 2000-3000 range of QT times and can never find a good ghost that is faster than me but close enough that it will be of benefit. The problem for me when I load a ghost from the first couple of pages is that after the first couple of turns, the ghost is so far in front of me that it is of no benefit anymore.
It would be nice to see more ghosts further down the leaderboard as these are the guys that could probably benefit from it the most!
I have the exact same gripe. The leader's ghosts are kind of useless to me as by a 1/3rd of the lap in, I've usually lost them. Do we only get ghosts of those that save their fastest laps?

What I need is a ghost for a QT that is like a 1/2 second to a second quicker. Something that is attainable. Then once I get that, look for the next 1/2 second quicker...

Perhaps, if we all save our fastest laps, will that appear as a ghost, or perhaps PD just ignores ghosts that are not top 100?
 
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I'm annoyed. Tried to join a daily race with main account 3 times and every time, I get the unexpected error thing before the lobby loads. This reduced my DR...

Then load up 2nd account and joined the next 2 races no problem. login with main again and same, unexpected error 🤐😤😡

What the hell?! Has this happened to anyone here before?

Also @Leon Kowalski I'm so damn close 🤣
 

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You have no idea how humorous I find this. I appreciate the compliment, but read on for the truth. :)

Now it is my turn to laugh. Long time ago, at university, my girlfriend gifted me with a wheel to play gran prix on a 386pc, last summer the same lady gifted me with a g29 for my 51 birthday. Nothing in the middle.

Some similarities I see...

I'm not yet retired, and can make 3-4 hours a week with the console, but, would the time be there, i would definetly sum up lot of races like you

I'm annoyed. Tried to join a daily race with main account 3 times and every time, I get the unexpected error thing before the lobby loads. This reduced my DR...

Then load up 2nd account and joined the next 2 races no problem. login with main again and same, unexpected error 🤐😤😡

What the hell?! Has this happened to anyone here before?
I did not have errors, but the second race i joined got stuck at the grid load screen and had to close and reopen the game
 
zjn
Now it is my turn to laugh. Long time ago, at university, my girlfriend gifted me with a wheel to play gran prix on a 386pc, last summer the same lady gifted me with a g29 for my 51 birthday. Nothing in the middle.

Some similarities I see...

I'm not yet retired, and can make 3-4 hours a week with the console, but, would the time be there, i would definetly sum up lot of races like you


I did not have errors, but the second race i joined got stuck at the grid load screen and had to close and reopen the game
The last one was like that, game froze and had to close it.
 
The main issue I have with these ghosts and one of my gripes on the matter is that these ghosts only really benefit the top guys. Only the top 200 or so times constantly have ghosts that are loadable and after that you might be lucky to find a ghost maybe every 4 tenths to half second or so down the leaderboard.
I generally find myself around the 2000-3000 range of QT times and can never find a good ghost that is faster than me but close enough that it will be of benefit. The problem for me when I load a ghost from the first couple of pages is that after the first couple of turns, the ghost is so far in front of me that it is of no benefit anymore.
It would be nice to see more ghosts further down the leaderboard as these are the guys that could probably benefit from it the most!

You can set the ghosts to reset at the start of each sector. It's is the ghost settings i think
 
You can set the ghosts to reset at the start of each sector. It's is the ghost settings i think
Thank you! Never knew that! I through that reset option referred to something else? What though I did not question! 🤦‍♂️

I just did a daily race A. Thought why not even though my QT of 1:44 is terrible. I expected to be at the back but was actually P7!! That did not help first corner though. It ended up 4 wide (unknown to me) that ended up in a side shunt into the gravel. After that my drive was hilariously bad. I did manage to get a couple laps in where I did not spin but ended up 1:12 down. I was just glad I was not lapped and this was a no DR/SR event. It it had been I would not have even tried it.

After that I tweaked my controller settings. Realized that my steering sensitivity was low and FFB not great. I increase both (7 and 5 I think) and jumped on B qualifying. I think this gives me more control of the car. Steering inputs were too damped before. First QT was a low 1:34, good for out lap and next lap was smoking. Turned the final corner and was over a second up, breaking into the 1:32s was on the table, when I failed to hold it, onto the grass and into the barrier. Why did I look at the time?

Then it was time to stop.

Think I will play with the FFB setting more tonight. I think there is performance gains to be had..
 
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I just figured out how we can share QT ghosts with each other.

Maybe everyone already knows about this, but I didn't.

To share your ghost, you share your replay (you may already know how to do this):
  1. Save your "best lap" replay, and when it asks, share it.
  2. If you forget to share it there, you can share it from Showcase.
  3. Tag it with "gtp", or "gtp6" for week 6. (Or "gtp7" next week, etc.)
  4. Say what car you're using, in the title.
Here's how to load someone's ghost. You can probably do this in several ways, but this worked for me, to load @TheNormsk's ghost.

Click the "Spoiler" buttons. Since I used a lot of images, I didn't want to take up a lot of scrolling bandwidth unless you want to see them.

1) Find the replay you want a ghost for. You can do this from Showcase:
Go to Showcase and use "Content Search":
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Search for "Replays":
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Use the keyword "gtp" or "gtp6":
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Add the replay you want to "Collection":
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2) Go into Qualifying for that track.

3) Load from "Settings->Ghost Settings".
Open "Settings:
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Click "Load Ghost" ("Open"):
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The next screen defaults to "My Items", but there'll be a tab for "Collection".
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Click the "Collection" tab:
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Click on the ghost you want, and presto!

We're gonna be having a great time with this, I just know it!
 
That's awesome. I know how to share the best lap time (did not realize the gtp6 meant week 6 though) but never knew about the collection and loading from there. This is great!

I will consciously upload my best laps now when I get a new one. I will tag with "thenormsk", "gtp" and "gtp7" or whatever if I know the week #.
 
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Just had a fantastic race B on my alt (for those asking earlier, I use my alt to test non-meta cars to see how viable/non-viable they are without killing my actual DR off) where we had a dirty driver that would punt/brake check everyone within a 40 mile radius of them.

Thankfully, this account is only B DR, so keeping up with them was pretty easy, and I floated behind them until the last chicane of the last lap where I absolutely nuked them into the wall. They then proceeded to curse me off at the end of the race - including some lovely obscenities.. which I reported!

The report went through and was reviewed in about 30 seconds, where they got back to me saying it breached the conduct, which I presume is coupled alongside a lovely week long vacation for them. Did I get a 4 second penalty for nuking them? Yes. Was it worth it? Oh yeah, baby. If only I could've reported the actual driving..
 
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You can set the ghosts to reset at the start of each sector. It's is the ghost settings i think
Yes, but it rarely works. It might work for a time or two, but then it won't reset anymore.
The main issue I have with these ghosts and one of my gripes on the matter is that these ghosts only really benefit the top guys. Only the top 200 or so times constantly have ghosts that are loadable and after that you might be lucky to find a ghost maybe every 4 tenths to half second or so down the leaderboard.
I generally find myself around the 2000-3000 range of QT times and can never find a good ghost that is faster than me but close enough that it will be of benefit. The problem for me when I load a ghost from the first couple of pages is that after the first couple of turns, the ghost is so far in front of me that it is of no benefit anymore.
It would be nice to see more ghosts further down the leaderboard as these are the guys that could probably benefit from it the most!
I have the exact same gripe. The leader's ghosts are kind of useless to me as by a 1/3rd of the lap in, I've usually lost them. Do we only get ghosts of those that save their fastest laps?

What I need is a ghost for a QT that is like a 1/2 second to a second quicker. Something that is attainable. Then once I get that, look for the next 1/2 second quicker...
See above. :cheers:
zjn
Now it is my turn to laugh. Long time ago, at university, my girlfriend gifted me with a wheel to play gran prix on a 386pc, last summer the same lady gifted me with a g29 for my 51 birthday. Nothing in the middle.
That's awesome. You should keep her. :lol:
zjn
I'm not yet retired, and can make 3-4 hours a week with the console, but, would the time be there, i would definetly sum up lot of races like you
Something to look forward to. Retirement IS everything it's supposed to be. For me, anyway.
 
I'd like to present what is in my opinion, the worst race I've ever done. Dropped 8 places and got engine damage for the first time. Driving standards by others wasn't brilliant either:

 
To share your ghost, you share your replay (you may already know how to do this):
  1. Save your "best lap" replay, and when it asks, share it.
  2. If you forget to share it there, you can share it from Showcase.
  3. Tag it with "gtp", or "gtp6" for week 6. (Or "gtp7" next week, etc.)
  4. Say what car you're using, in the title.
Thats an awesome idea Grumpy! I might have to start doing that myself. I wonder if by doing this is how ghosts get loaded onto the leaderboard. I've always saved my best laps but never thought of sharing them.
 
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