GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I'm expecting the Nissan to be the meta car for GR.3 next week. Porsche will probably be competitive as it's nominally easier on the tires but the layout of Seaside is more in line with where the GT-R is good, Supra may be good but it still eats fronts.

Might go off piste and try something like the wrx or mercedes as they're cars I'm good with and good with tires.
 
I've wondered the same, this week. But I just think that although I like this track from a driving perspective, it's been mostly boring to do the race. I think if we had RMs it might be more interesting. Add that to the fact that I can't seem to improve on my QT, which I set early in the week.

You're welcome - I tried hard! Wasn't my best race by any stretch of the imagination.
By the way, I didn’t convey my meaning very well: I didn’t mean to imply that you weren’t driving well. I was all over the place trying to avoid the carnage and I’m glad you were able to avoid my chaos! That in itself is a valuable skill. I got a 2s penalty for some jackhole driving off the track, across the track, and then back in, right into me, only to fly off the track again. Clearly I deserved the penalty . . . 🧐
I'm expecting the Nissan to be the meta car for GR.3 next week. Porsche will probably be competitive as it's nominally easier on the tires but the layout of Seaside is more in line with where the GT-R is good, Supra may be good but it still eats fronts.

Might go off piste and try something like the wrx or mercedes as they're cars I'm good with and good with tires.
I’ve had great luck with the Jag on that track. It’s got great top end speed and also great acceleration to get out ahead at the trouble spots.
 
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I'd like pd to speed up a bit the whole daily race routine.

3 races, effective race time driven 29min, actual time spent 1h8mins...

That's at least in part due to the fact that they have made the waiting period at the end of each race just long enough that you can't leave quickly enough and hop over to a different daily race that is starting right in that very moment. This has to be intentional, but it needs someone cleverer than me to explain the purpose behind it.
 
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By the way, I didn’t convey my meaning very well: I didn’t mean to imply that you weren’t driving well. I was all over the place trying to avoid the carnage and I’m glad you were able to avoid my chaos! That in itself is a valuable skill. I got a 2s penalty for some jackhole driving off the track, across the track, and then back in, right into me, only to fly off the track again. Clearly I deserved the penalty . . . 🧐
It never even occurred to me that you might be criticizing me, so don't worry about it. But thanks for worrying about it anyway, if that makes sense. You have been extremely careful in how you've worded things to me in the past, so I can tell you wouldn't mean any harm. Besides, I was driving poorly! 😂 :cheers:
 
I found swapping the springs made a huge difference. Accelerator is much more controllable.

How much travel do you get with the new brake? I looked at the TrueBrake (from the UK which was about $90 shipped) but read that it only had about 3mm of travel. I wasn't sure about that. Curious as to if you tried different brake mods before this one?

Currently I'm using https://amzn.to/3jQFwN2 as my spring mod and then I took the stock rubber, trimmed about 2-3mm off it and also I cut a wedge piece off that was about 5mm long that gave a more progressive press feel. Probably not great compared to a load-cell but 100% better than stock. Now the question is, was the Ricmotech worth the $150 because, boy is that a lot of money...
The bold was my issue. The Truebrake is a well designed product but I could not adjust. I went from the stock "travel" system to a pressure based one, but there was too little "range" for me in the Truebrake (I got the green spring too). If there was a way to get a little more range by taking something out of the Truebrake I would try it. But for now trailbraking is harder to do for me because I have to be too precise with that 3mm or whatever of travel, even though there is pressure feedback.
 
Apparently 78 year old 'boy racer' in the lower B lobbies, 'Won't be bullied!', saw this guy run off 3 or 4 people last race hmm..

Can't be bullied if I'm the bully

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I was in one of those races with you. Glad you had some success.
Nice! I think I ran some clean races. Hope I didn't bump you lol

Btw I second @Normsk suggestions for friend requests. I am new to GT7 and would love some company!

Well done!

Funny I like Gardens Reverse and I suck and hate Willow Springs. I've never done well at that track. But perhaps it is time for me to work that today. I've got nothing else to do as COVID is running through our household and I need to hang out in the basement to avoid the infected 🧟‍♀️ anyway..
Lol I ran a race at DT with you. Was all excited to see u in lobby and I embarrassingly finished like P12 or something. That was my last DT run!

Hope to see UT Willow.

Funny thing, I sometimes "get sick" just to "stay away" in the basement lol
 
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Start with hards. Pit fpr mediums after lap one and refuel. Then you can go mostly flat out with minor short shifting. Basically stay in 5th around turn 2 and 6th leading up to final turn. Then you can full flat out last 2-3 Laps.


Yh, I managed a decent quali time (1:16.005) wich led to mostly going 14 laps on RM and box last lap.
I found by just shifting up by around/ just before 6.5k rpm, the no refuel strat was no problem. And gained massive amount of time in the pit ✌🏻
 
Let's see... someone tries to pass me on the inside at the start of the quads in lap 1, slams on his brakes and I plow into him... 5 second penalty. Lost a ton of places serving that penalty. Lap 3, I put a tire in the grass on the quads and spin out, and the car does this odd thing where it hits the barrier, jumps back, and hits it again. I quit after a 3 second penalty. That was not fun.

By the way, don't anyone try to convince be that the lap 1 issue didn't happen that way. There's no way I could have been ticked off and accidentally-on-purpose hit that guy. Nuh-uh. No way. Does that sound like something I would do?
 
What strat did you go for in Daily Race C this week?
Pushing flat out? Or saving fuel?



Also, is the ASM assist in quali a thing now? If so, I had no clue and have totally missed that.
The reason I ask is, I did lots (and lots) of quali laps on monday at Willow Springs. I got my time down to 1:16.160, and I was pretty satisfied with that.
Then I wanted a new go at it on Wed, and I noticed on almost all top 10 replays they had ASM assist activated, and flashing like crazy.
I decided to test it. And to my surprise, on my 3rd lap I got my time down to 1:16.005 🤯
Tried it in a couple of races too, but it felt horrible and like having a constant argument with the car, so I got rid of it again.
Is this usually a thing in quali/tt? And why?
I’ve somehow missed it completly
 
Yh, I managed a decent quali time (1:16.005) wich led to mostly going 14 laps on RM and box last lap.
I found by just shifting up by around/ just before 6.5k rpm, the no refuel strat was no problem. And gained massive amount of time in the pit ✌🏻
Nice! I tried the no refuel and it was relatively easy, but I felt like I wanted that extra fuel just in case when I needed to overtake, etc on the final few laps.

I also ran a 15-lap no pit RH in the Jaguar with relative ease. Ended up P6 or P8 iirc. Fun to try different strategies!

At my daughter's dance competition all day today so the only strategy I can try is in my head and on this forum (insert sad face emoji here).

Let's see... someone tries to pass me on the inside at the start of the quads in lap 1, slams on his brakes and I plow into him... 5 second penalty. Lost a ton of places serving that penalty. Lap 3, I put a tire in the grass on the quads and spin out, and the car does this odd thing where it hits the barrier, jumps back, and hits it again. I quit after a 3 second penalty. That was not fun.

By the way, don't anyone try to convince be that the lap 1 issue didn't happen that way. There's no way I could have been ticked off and accidentally-on-purpose hit that guy. Nuh-uh. No way. Does that sound like something I would do?
Try Willow with a pit after first lap. It's a peaceful desert stroll with no shenanigans!
 
Let's see... someone tries to pass me on the inside at the start of the quads in lap 1, slams on his brakes and I plow into him... 5 second penalty. Lost a ton of places serving that penalty. Lap 3, I put a tire in the grass on the quads and spin out, and the car does this odd thing where it hits the barrier, jumps back, and hits it again. I quit after a 3 second penalty. That was not fun.

By the way, don't anyone try to convince be that the lap 1 issue didn't happen that way. There's no way I could have been ticked off and accidentally-on-purpose hit that guy. Nuh-uh. No way. Does that sound like something I would do?
I may, repeat may, have moved a porsche out of the way after being stuck behind them for 2 laps the other day. The BRZ doesn't have the pace to pass them on straights but man does it fly through the corners, and this guy was already shaky in the twisty bits. I finally had a run on him headed into the quad and got my nose right underneath his left rear quarter and when he tried to take the apex I just kinda didn't move.
To his credit he hung onto it and did slam me back in the door at part 3 of the quad but I skated across the curb slow enough as not to draw the cut track penalty and then pulled away through the essess.

Look, I'm not perfect and I was raised with the concept of suggesting a car occupy a different piece of tarmac was an acceptable move. I'd never wreck someone purposefully that didn't already deserve it and I'd never punt someone by accident and then not wait or profusely apologize but a bit of chrome horn doesn't seem too shady to me.

I think there's a vast gulf between fenderless fans and fendered fans with regards to what is clean racing and what is justifiable/regular contact.

In F1 and Indycar don't touch, ever, you'll both die. That seems like a legit way of thinking for fans of those series and the series drivers. It also lends itself to a lot of "I have claimed this space and if you make a move we'll both crash" types of moments ala Max/Lewis many many times.

NASCAR (and lets be honest V8 Supercars).... Lets just say the famous words together: "No, no, he didn't slam you, he didn't bump you, he didn't nudge you... he rubbed you. And rubbin, son, is racin'"

IMSA/WEC/Sportscar Racing if you can get a fender in the door you can make the move. Purposefully wrecking someone is a penalty of course but getting your nose inside their fender headed into the Daytona Horseshoe and you make contact and the outside car drifts wide because of it... Totally legal and everyone does it.

Anyways, rant over, I'm sure he deserved it and if he didn't I'm sure you cared enough to say "oops" :D
 
Well I tried Race C this morning. Not going to do it again. Mostly an unpleasant experience. In both lobbies we also had A and A+ drivers. That makes it non competitive for a start for a lowly ranked B.

Race 1, started P9 and was okay after lap 1 and pitted to swap for mediums and a little bit of fuel. Lap 2 I go off twice, so much for that... The rest was not too bad , a bit like a time trial and I worked my way up to 8th, but I had not been keeping an eye on the fuel, thinking why - I'd refueled, only to realize last lap that I wa going to run out. Slowed off a lot and was short shifting and lost one spot. Then on the last turn ran out of fuel and coasted all the way to the line, losing another spot. Finished 10th.

Race 2, though race 1 was not good, but also not awful I thought I would try again. Even more As in this lobby and I was P13. Did the same pit strategy and was basically last from lap 2 on. I only finished 14th as those behind me left. What was worse was that on lap 14 I get lapped by the leaders. I tried to get off the racing line when I realized but they just drove through me. They both pitted last lap, so then they got to lap me again. At this point, I did not give a **** about them as they shouldn't have been in a DR B race and I might have thrown their race off a bit. I came last.

I'm not going to do any more Cs. Hated it.
 
The bold was my issue. The Truebrake is a well designed product but I could not adjust. I went from the stock "travel" system to a pressure based one, but there was too little "range" for me in the Truebrake (I got the green spring too). If there was a way to get a little more range by taking something out of the Truebrake I would try it. But for now trailbraking is harder to do for me because I have to be too precise with that 3mm or whatever of travel, even though there is pressure feedback.
Don’t think of breaking in terms of the travel of the pedal. Think of it in terms of how much pressure your foot applies. Your foot is able to remember precise pressure better than it is movement.

At least that’s what “they” say.
 
What strat did you go for in Daily Race C this week?
Pushing flat out? Or saving fuel?


The strategy I went with, and notice more and more people do as the week went on was start on the RM and do a small amount of fuel saving in FM1. I only fuel saved in certain areas like taking the 1st long sweeping right hander in 5th instead of 4th and short shifting into 6th and then coast from 250-150m markers on the final turn. This allowed me to maintain good pace (top 2-5) and pit at the end of lap 14. That way only did one lap on RHs to finish the race off.
Havent got any wins but a few 2nds and plenty of top 5s, but my excuse is that I have been racing against a lot of A+ / A drivers as a DR B rated driver.
 
Don’t think of breaking in terms of the travel of the pedal. Think of it in terms of how much pressure your foot applies. Your foot is able to remember precise pressure better than it is movement.

At least that’s what “they” say.
I think my post shows I understand that. I bought the truebrake to go from "travel" to "pressure". As I noted, what I have difficulty with is that the range of travel to apply pressure between 0% and 100% braking is very small, and thus the "feel" is nice but hard to translate into braking "precision" and "consistency" for me. I wish I was feeling more gradual pressure change for a longer travel distance. Just a bit longer... It would make it much easier (for me) to get some muscle memory of what pressure/resistance feels like at 20%, 50%, 100% etc braking.
 
Sometimes I don't understand myself, or the game. Case in point:

ME: Here I am, poised to make another run at DR A. I'm DR B at 93%, and there's enough people playing this afternoon that I'll probably get in all B lobbies, which means starting near the top, or in this case, pole position. Then I make a small mistake on T1 of Lap 1, letting someone pass me. Do I play it smart and just bide my time? I mean, any podium finish will give me some DR points. But nooooo, I do something stupid and end up 10th.

GAME: So I end up finishing 10th, and how much does the game deduct from my DR? 1.54 percentage points, which is the equivalent of 1 pixel in the progress bar. Not that I'm complaining, but I would have thought it'd be much worse.

ME AGAIN: And... here I am typing this in, not paying attention to the time, and I miss the 12:50 race. Really stupid, because I don't know how long there'll be enough people playing to keep me in an all-B lobby, instead of being dumped into an A lobby, which is much harder to pick up DR points (for me, anyway).

Oh well.

Most of you already know this, but since I have to wait another 10 minutes for the next race and I'm bored with qualifying: You can use kudosprime to track your stats, with some work on your part. Personally, I'm using a home-grown stats app, which if you really want to know about, although the info is kind of useless to you, you can find info on it here.

EDIT: So, I guess I waited too long. Got in a mostly A/A+ lobby, with a few Bs, and I was P10. And guess what happened to me? I got pitted. Literally. I got knocked into the pits! I've seen that happen to other people, but never to me. It dropped me to P14, but I ended where I started at P10. No gain or loss in the DR department.
 
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After the dismal race C performance this morning I took my anger out on race B. In warming up, I shaved some more thousandths from the QT and began to more consistently lap in the 1:33s and 1:34s.

Race 1 I was P8. Nice clean, competitive race and I worked my worked my way up to finish P4. Earned 800 DR pts for that.

Race 2 I started P6. At T2 I was in the inside line and was bounced off track, right into a solid wall! Down to P16 instantly.



What is interesting is that I hit the barrier but I did not hit the barrier. I did not get a barrier penalty. Perhaps it was because I hit the post/wall between the barriers? Anyway, I fought my way back up from there and finished P8. Didn't lose points and gained another 200 pts.

This morning's C disaster lost me 600 pts in the second race and the first was no pts changed. So for the day I'm up 400 pts at a 18% B rating. You lose some, you gain some.
 
After the dismal race C performance this morning I took my anger out on race B. In warming up, I shaved some more thousandths from the QT and began to more consistently lap in the 1:33s and 1:34s.

Race 1 I was P8. Nice clean, competitive race and I worked my worked my way up to finish P4. Earned 800 DR pts for that.

Race 2 I started P6. At T2 I was in the inside line and was bounced off track, right into a solid wall! Down to P16 instantly.



What is interesting is that I hit the barrier but I did not hit the barrier. I did not get a barrier penalty. Perhaps it was because I hit the post/wall between the barriers? Anyway, I fought my way back up from there and finished P8. Didn't lose points and gained another 200 pts.

This morning's C disaster lost me 600 pts in the second race and the first was no pts changed. So for the day I'm up 400 pts at a 18% B rating. You lose some, you gain some.

It’s because your car is the exact same color as the pillar you hit, so the game didn’t notice. I think you may have just cheesed a glitch!!!!

Now to figure out which other colors work!
 
After the dismal race C performance this morning I took my anger out on race B. In warming up, I shaved some more thousandths from the QT and began to more consistently lap in the 1:33s and 1:34s.

Race 1 I was P8. Nice clean, competitive race and I worked my worked my way up to finish P4. Earned 800 DR pts for that.

Race 2 I started P6. At T2 I was in the inside line and was bounced off track, right into a solid wall! Down to P16 instantly.



What is interesting is that I hit the barrier but I did not hit the barrier. I did not get a barrier penalty. Perhaps it was because I hit the post/wall between the barriers? Anyway, I fought my way back up from there and finished P8. Didn't lose points and gained another 200 pts.

This morning's C disaster lost me 600 pts in the second race and the first was no pts changed. So for the day I'm up 400 pts at a 18% B rating. You lose some, you gain some.


Not all barriers are born equally...

How do you determine the loss gained points?
 
After the dismal race C performance this morning I took my anger out on race B. In warming up, I shaved some more thousandths from the QT and began to more consistently lap in the 1:33s and 1:34s.

Race 1 I was P8. Nice clean, competitive race and I worked my worked my way up to finish P4. Earned 800 DR pts for that.

Race 2 I started P6. At T2 I was in the inside line and was bounced off track, right into a solid wall! Down to P16 instantly.



What is interesting is that I hit the barrier but I did not hit the barrier. I did not get a barrier penalty. Perhaps it was because I hit the post/wall between the barriers? Anyway, I fought my way back up from there and finished P8. Didn't lose points and gained another 200 pts.

This morning's C disaster lost me 600 pts in the second race and the first was no pts changed. So for the day I'm up 400 pts at a 18% B rating. You lose some, you gain some.

it's like that gap has collision turned on but doesn't have penalties turned on.. interesting find! sorry it had to happen in a race and not QT
 
Maybe not punting the guy in front could reduce the chances of “bounce” occurring?
You need to look at the third view in slow motion. I was following right on his bumper when he suddenly veered left, so I thought they lost it, and released my braking to continued on the original line. However, they over corrected and veered right into me. It was clearly their mistake and if they had not lost it, I would’ve just been fine. Perhaps it was a lag glitch but I came out of it worse.
 
Don't what happened tonight but it clicked. I've been running pretty consistent top 5's in B all week but everytime I do better I get put in better lobbies. Started to come to terms that I wasn't going to get a "W" this week. Went back to put a new quali time in and somehow managed to shave off a second in 2 laps. I used to come out of T2 in second but downshifting to first really helped rotate and launch on exit.

Next race I'm lined up P6 with the leader having a QT a second faster than me. First corner had contact with two cars in front of me pass them and two more cars have terrible exits and get pass them. In a drag race now with P2 going into the triple lefts. He backs out first and I take P2. Start to build a gap and track down P1. Get within a couple of tenths but nothing there to captilize. I noticed that I was way stronger than him in a couple of spots so I try to stay close. Lap 4 comes around and he bites off to much kerb on the chicane. Sneek past and hold on for dear life. He catches up but then starts to overdrive it and I was able to finish P1 with a comfy second to spare.

It was such a good race I'm not going to attempt a second one tonight.

Feels good.
 
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