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No they're not, I was joking that it would be the only way to balance the races properly š
GT7 Daily Race Discussion
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Another B & C that I couldn't much care less about. A is okay, but the field is so spread out at the moment there isn't much racing going on (at least for me).
Put in a quali time of 1:44.701 which has (had?) me at #20 overall. I mean it's still Monday... but late-ish Monday.
Put in a quali time of 1:44.701 which has (had?) me at #20 overall. I mean it's still Monday... but late-ish Monday.
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@TheNormsk I didn't realise you had a channel. Nice effort on the presentation, I'll be subscribing!
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š Itās not really a channel per se. I only set it up to really use it to share clips and to get feedback. I know Iām not a good enough driver for anybody to be interested in my opinion š, but I will post the odd race, crash, cheat etc. there as I improve.
I could make it much more professional but I got a bit burnt out on YouTube production on my other channel, so this is minimal effort.
Right, Iām just sat in my cockpit, on to figuring out these new daily races.
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Don't know if most of you are aware, probably are and I'm just late to the party, but you can "calibrate" your wheel controlllers in GT7. I was not, until a few days ago anyway. I was exploring settings for something unrelated to this and jumped in here;
Landed here;
Hit that pedal calibration button and settled here;
Those are the default settings the game and console set for my G29. Don't have an e-brake. I immediately pressed all the pedals to their max physical stops and found I hadn't been pressing the brake as far as it could go (this turned out to be a bad thing for me). Hit the OK button and jumped back onto a track I'd been running in the league I am in and had a go with the calibration maxed and minned to the pedals physical stops. DTG reverse. Turn 1 was utterly horrible on the brakes. Hit brakes at my usual point with my usual amount of foot and didn't get slowed down near enough to make the corner entry. Exit track and back to calibration to fiddle with it.
I settled on;
The minimum is essentially the dead zone. The max is how much the pedal has to travel its physical distance to give 100% in game. So my brake pedal travels 65.9% of its capacity to get 100% in game brake action. It has to travel 2.5% before I get any in game brake action.
As I recall GT5&6 did this calibration on the fly. Each time you pressed a pedal farther than the time before, it expanded the pedal range. I think I like this method better since it's locked to what I set here. I may reduce the max accel to below 100% so I don't have to mash that pedal to get it there. Might keep from having to "adjust/repair" pedal electronics. We'll play with it some more under an alt account I just created for PSVR2 testing next week sometime.
As far as daily races are concerned I just started participating and managed a C-S rating more quickly than I expected. Currently attempting to raise to the B-S rating, because ya' know it's BS.
Did have a few good races at DTGR but the last time I did a session I got tangled up on my own and with a couple others and didn't finish better than 9th in the last 3 I did.
I would like to comment on some folks here that seem to wonder about those love taps from behind that may happen from time to time. Unless you're attempting to "bump draft", and that takes a bit of trust and faith between the drivers involved, it's a bad idea. When running nose to tail behind someone, your braking point is no longer yours. It's the car in front's. Inside of about .5 away the draft effect will pull you along without you being on the gas much. The closer you are the more profound this effect.
I'll use a recent race from the league I'm in to illustrate.
That's pretty much bump draft range.
Here it is from the other 3 most common views;
At this range there's no time at all to react to brake lights from the ahead car. There just isn't. The yellow car has to anticipate and brake before the blue. As you can see, the yellow car in this case did not. The blue car ended up in the armco on the left.
You being the yellow car, of those 3 views, which do you think gives the best indication of just how close you actually are?
Unless you have about 50,000 hours running in traffic in that "bumper cam" view, it's the worst, from my perspective. There's just nothing there to reference. The full chase cam mode is better, but not by much. You'd again want several metric tons of hours to be able to judge that with any confident accuracy. I know folks who do it, and do it well, but it ain't for me. The roof cam view was the best for me when running in traffic. Much easier to judge where my front end is in relation to another's back end. Plus I can see when cars are at least to the back of the front fender and can make informed decisions. Cockpit view? Until PSVR2 hits, forget that noise. You'd be to busy swappin' views left, right and rear to do much, if any, actual driving.
That close in radar map is handy too. I've not figured out how to zoom it in and out, if it even can, because I generally notice cars in other ways before I think to use that radar feature and they are really close by the time they show up in it.
For anyone saying they use bumper cam for that giant rear view mirror? I say, if it isn't already, map that D-Pad down button to flip to your rear facing camera to see what's coming up behind you, if the radar/track map and the timing indicates there might be someone nearby that is, otherwise, "What's-a behind me is not important" Franco, Gumball Rally, 1976
Yeah, I know. Big post. I'm notorious for this kinda thing.
Landed here;
Hit that pedal calibration button and settled here;
Those are the default settings the game and console set for my G29. Don't have an e-brake. I immediately pressed all the pedals to their max physical stops and found I hadn't been pressing the brake as far as it could go (this turned out to be a bad thing for me). Hit the OK button and jumped back onto a track I'd been running in the league I am in and had a go with the calibration maxed and minned to the pedals physical stops. DTG reverse. Turn 1 was utterly horrible on the brakes. Hit brakes at my usual point with my usual amount of foot and didn't get slowed down near enough to make the corner entry. Exit track and back to calibration to fiddle with it.
I settled on;
The minimum is essentially the dead zone. The max is how much the pedal has to travel its physical distance to give 100% in game. So my brake pedal travels 65.9% of its capacity to get 100% in game brake action. It has to travel 2.5% before I get any in game brake action.
As I recall GT5&6 did this calibration on the fly. Each time you pressed a pedal farther than the time before, it expanded the pedal range. I think I like this method better since it's locked to what I set here. I may reduce the max accel to below 100% so I don't have to mash that pedal to get it there. Might keep from having to "adjust/repair" pedal electronics. We'll play with it some more under an alt account I just created for PSVR2 testing next week sometime.
As far as daily races are concerned I just started participating and managed a C-S rating more quickly than I expected. Currently attempting to raise to the B-S rating, because ya' know it's BS.
Did have a few good races at DTGR but the last time I did a session I got tangled up on my own and with a couple others and didn't finish better than 9th in the last 3 I did. I would like to comment on some folks here that seem to wonder about those love taps from behind that may happen from time to time. Unless you're attempting to "bump draft", and that takes a bit of trust and faith between the drivers involved, it's a bad idea. When running nose to tail behind someone, your braking point is no longer yours. It's the car in front's. Inside of about .5 away the draft effect will pull you along without you being on the gas much. The closer you are the more profound this effect.
I'll use a recent race from the league I'm in to illustrate.
That's pretty much bump draft range.
Here it is from the other 3 most common views;
At this range there's no time at all to react to brake lights from the ahead car. There just isn't. The yellow car has to anticipate and brake before the blue. As you can see, the yellow car in this case did not. The blue car ended up in the armco on the left.
You being the yellow car, of those 3 views, which do you think gives the best indication of just how close you actually are?
Unless you have about 50,000 hours running in traffic in that "bumper cam" view, it's the worst, from my perspective. There's just nothing there to reference. The full chase cam mode is better, but not by much. You'd again want several metric tons of hours to be able to judge that with any confident accuracy. I know folks who do it, and do it well, but it ain't for me. The roof cam view was the best for me when running in traffic. Much easier to judge where my front end is in relation to another's back end. Plus I can see when cars are at least to the back of the front fender and can make informed decisions. Cockpit view? Until PSVR2 hits, forget that noise. You'd be to busy swappin' views left, right and rear to do much, if any, actual driving.
That close in radar map is handy too. I've not figured out how to zoom it in and out, if it even can, because I generally notice cars in other ways before I think to use that radar feature and they are really close by the time they show up in it.
For anyone saying they use bumper cam for that giant rear view mirror? I say, if it isn't already, map that D-Pad down button to flip to your rear facing camera to see what's coming up behind you, if the radar/track map and the timing indicates there might be someone nearby that is, otherwise, "What's-a behind me is not important" Franco, Gumball Rally, 1976
Yeah, I know. Big post. I'm notorious for this kinda thing.
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Well, I wanted a race at Red Bull, Ring but not in road cars! Not a fan of racing with the road cars. The tire wear on Dragon Trail scares me so that's a no go from me. So, Sardenga is where I will spend my time this week. I do like this track even though it's in Gr.4 cars. Of which, I did my qualifying in my go to Mustang and set a time of 1:25.9XX so far. I really don't want to use the WRX to be different, but I will try it out and see if I can go quicker.
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If anyone cares, I shared my QT for Daily Race B, using the Alfa. Showcase, search for "gtp7" or "gtp".
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I can't dona sub 37 in anything but the supra or the lancer. The z4 is too stiffly sprung and anything else with legs like the m6 or the gtr is beyond me to co trol on exit.
My fear is the Lancer will be hard to pass with and the supra will demolish the front tyres.
My fear is the Lancer will be hard to pass with and the supra will demolish the front tyres.
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I haven't tried the Lancer yet, might give that a whirl.
I think I figured out why they're doing back to back Dragon Trail though. The people playing GR.3 Dailies have too high DR and SR and this is PDs way of resetting those.
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Corvette pretty underrated at Seaside. Got a 1:37.1 after trying it along with the Merc, Mustang and GTR. It can do the COD flat-out no lift. Made some mistakes early on so could've broken 1:36 but here's me threading the needle with pedal to the floor.
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Great job! I will try to load your ghost. I just posted a 1:25:353 and made it to the top of my friend's list. Good thing you haven't accepted my friend request yet lol.
I'm not sure how to save and share my best lap so I will do a little googling for future use.
But hi everyone else š
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My first race of the week in Daily Race B, Sardegna. Here's a 1 minute video to show 1) a pretty spiffy save on T1 Lap 1 (IMO) by me, and 2) how messy the first lap can be here, but even still, you can survive right in the thick of things (not sure why the video quality is poor, but whatever):
Started P7, finished P5 in my first A lobby since I gained my DR A.
And an 8-second video showing that sometimes, PD gets the ghosting right (in the nick of time!). And yes, the initial contact is completely my fault. And no, I didn't wait - neither did anyone else in this race:
I have a woodworking YouTube channel with 130k subscribers, but I haven't posted a new video for a while. It's hard to keep the energy up. Like you said, it's a good tax writeoff, and I still make some decent money from it. Not enough to retire on - hey wait, I'm already retired! So it gives me some money to buy things like sim racing gear.
Anyway, like I said, I recognized the quality of your video, and I wanted you to know that someone, somewhere out there appreciated it.
Oh, and no, I'm not going to be a streamer either. I just want to enjoy the game.
Wow Grumpy,you have a woodturning channel?
A bit off topic I know, but can you point me in your channels direction ,i got a mini lathe last year am always checking you tube for tips.
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TheNormsk
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Thanks for the ghosts! They were very helpful. I'd settle on the Alfa 155 for this course after trying many cars but I was still off the pace. I was chasing @BruceAlmighty's time and both my son and I cheered when I beat his time. Only to look at the leaderboard and @BruceAlmighty had pulled ahead, so I was still last! We were qualifying at the same time. LOL.
Anyway, I loaded up three ghosts and found that you guys take slightly different lines in a few key spots. The driver assist line is about a second slower. I switched off all assists (except ABS) and went to work chasing you guys down. I find that I am often faster in the first sector but then I start to fall back in the next two. The last right, uphill, left near the end is the one area I'm still quite weak on, so any tips would be great! I'll continue to work this, as until the end, I'm really not far off your 1:25.x times.
I was feeling confident enough to enter a race. Woah, what an awesome race. Awesome in some incredible driving by some and in the sheer stupidity and atrociousness in others. The lower DR B lobby, particularly when you have non SR S drivers can get interesting.... I'll do a run down later and a proper video (from four angles) as this one deserves it. It was my first race with no driver aids and I was the better for it. Started P9 and finished P6 after being P4 for a while. Lost out to P5 by thousandths of a seconds as we crossed side by side... It was a nail biter as my back end got wobbly on the uphill, last lap, before the finish, costing me P5.
At the end @BruceAlmighty said hi. Did not realize you was even in the race. Hope you had a good drive as the back of the field was a bit of a boisterous bunch.
I also did a couple of Race As. I haven't figured out the Subaru and apparently I can't drive it. I'm very slow and came last twice. I don't enjoy it.
Also spent some time qualifying for Race 3. Currently the faithful 911 is my fastest car having tried out many. I feel my pace may be off though as I'm quite a bit behind others that have posted their times here. I could potentially enjoy that one, if I get more competitive but currently Race B may be my go to for this week.
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Race C tactic for the week:
Donāt hit anything firm & unyielding and you should be fine.
Donāt hit anything firm & unyielding and you should be fine.
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I didn't have the time to race for a couple of weeks, put the kid to bed last night and took the GTR for a quali spin at Race C, managed 1:36.9 but very very twichy, oversteery, too unstable over the curbes. Then I tried the M6, much better, not as fast on the straight but much softer over the curbs, stable under braking, chicane of death is much easier to get right. So 1:36.4 was the final time after 4-5 laps and then I went to bed, maybe I will try the actual race tonight
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Had time for some qt laps and a couple races last night. It's B for me this week. I went straight for the wrx as i don't have time to mess around this week. I got beat on pretty bad last week and really want some of my DR back.
Both races were good fun. Hopefully a sign of how this week will go š¤
Qualifying time of 1.24.4(89?) Shared with gtp7 tag
Both races were good fun. Hopefully a sign of how this week will go š¤
Qualifying time of 1.24.4(89?) Shared with gtp7 tag
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spent last night doing Race A in B lobbies...what a mixed bag..some racers are good, follow the racing lines, dont divebomb the corners and generally have good battles..on the flip side there are a number of terrible B drivers! got taken out several times at T1 and T2 by divebombers and those who think an inch is a decent gap force themselves into to get past...there were some deliberate punts when i reviewed the replays. No idea why B rated drivers need to do that...just idiots i suppose
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I like Seaside, but it's a lot more dangerous now compared to GTS. So I drive safely at the CoD. Being a few hundreds slower is faster than hitting the wall once in a race.
But the main reason is I simply don't enjoy racing jgr 4. All the cars I enjoy driving are too slow to be competitive
GrumpyOldMan
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I didn't realize who you were. Send me another request. "dagware".
It's here in this topic somewhere - I posted it last week I think. Search this topic for posts by me, and you should find it.
It's not woodturning, it's woodworking. So that's different, of course. Here's my channel, regardless: https://youtube.com/c/thenewbiewoodworker
FWIW, I'm leaving most everything on. I use the driving line, but I don't necessarily follow it. For instance, sometimes I know I need to swing wider than the line then cut back in. So even though I'm not following it, it's still helpful. And of course the markers can really help pinpoint the apex.
As for the actual driving assists like TCS and whatnot, if you're driving a 4WD, they don't make much of a difference. But, they help me not spin out on the right-hander leading up the hill.
I'm in the Alfa, by the way: For the right before going up the hill, I come in as fast as I can, on the left edge, slamming on the brakes and downshifting fast so that when I turn right to go up the hill, I can cut the corner just slightly, or just be close to it. Cut it too much, and you're in the sand on the left. Start accelerating as soon as you hit the apex, or perhaps even a tad sooner if you have assists turned on.
The left at the top of the hill is still hard for me to get right. The idea is to brake and either cut the corner, or just graze it, then carefully accelerate after the apex, without going off the track to the right.
For the long left-hander, I go just wide of the driving line then cut back in, which seems to help not going into the grass. And of course the final turns are extremely important, as they set the speed for the straight. In the Alfa, you can start accelerating sooner than you think - accelerating early actually helps it stay on line. With assists, anyway. YMMV.
I'm not even close to an expert - in fact, I'm barely more than a newbie if the truth be told, so take everything I say with a huge grain of salt.
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Did one Race C last night, bit of a dooooozy. Accidently started on mediums in P6 in a VERY strong room littered with A+ freaks. I figured i was likely one of only a few guys on mediums but watching the replay, I was the ONLY ONE in the top 10 on mediums LOL. Anyways, it sorta worked out, a couple of guys binned it on exit and I passed a few dudes so I am sitting P2, being cautious through the COD and looking good at lap 3. I use the supra because t is so stable but lap 4 I get a great run through COD but on exit I lose it, which totally caught me off guard. Total time loss was about 6 seconds with penalty.
My tyres are shot after 5 laps, come in and BOOM a 3 second penalty. Like what? So be warned, the pit entry line is enforced, news to me. Finished P8 which I was not happy about given the roughly 10 seconds I gave up but then I looked at the results and i would have only beaten one other guy. The pace on hards from the A+ and high A drivers is bonkers fast.
Gotta say, some very good drivers are losing the rear on exit in the GTR at odd spots. The Supra is an understeering pig BUT you can just lay on the throttle.
Qualifying I was on pace for a 36.5 and muffed it at COD dammit, settled for a 36.9 but will try and get that down tonight. Lancer is a legit option guys, give it a go.
My tyres are shot after 5 laps, come in and BOOM a 3 second penalty. Like what? So be warned, the pit entry line is enforced, news to me. Finished P8 which I was not happy about given the roughly 10 seconds I gave up but then I looked at the results and i would have only beaten one other guy. The pace on hards from the A+ and high A drivers is bonkers fast.
Gotta say, some very good drivers are losing the rear on exit in the GTR at odd spots. The Supra is an understeering pig BUT you can just lay on the throttle.
Qualifying I was on pace for a 36.5 and muffed it at COD dammit, settled for a 36.9 but will try and get that down tonight. Lancer is a legit option guys, give it a go.
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