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I think I'll just be rallying.

I was thinking we hadn't seen Catalunya for a while, not a bad combo for me. Wild Race A, completely forgot about that circuit I thought it may be a new one :lol:

Was hoping for Catalunya and the Green Hell as it's been ages since we've had that too.. at least Race C is GR 2 hopefully limited and not including the Merc or McLaren.
 
I had planned on just racing daily C this week. I was like a race or two away from A+ and now im back down to 3/4 of the way through A. Its a total crapshoot. One mistake through the chicane and its 3 sec pen.
THat 3 seconds is really best part of 10 seconds. You are slowed by hitting the wall and recovering, then your car is busted and hard to handle so more lost time, then the 3 seconds is really 5 seconds due to lost momentum. Joyless.
 
I'm not trying to sound condescending and I am very far from elite. Your example is very reasonable, although I think the PD sportmanship video would say that any move with probable contact should be avoided. Not very practical in the real world, I know. I did have some good battles with people at Sardegna, going two or 3 abreast through sections with no contact, so it can be done if people have a similar mindset.

I think part of my frustration is the short sprint events of race A & B - I race usually in the GTWS longer races, where people seem to be more patient as there's more time.

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I think I'll just be rallying.


Oof GR2. NSX fest.

This game absolutely needs to figure out its BoP because right now only the Gr.3 races are interesting outside of that one Gr.4 race with the rain.
 
I had a top split driver in my lobby. He had a 1:34.4xx quali time. Top 25 in the world. I was P2 with a 1:36.024 and the other half of the lobby was B drivers. Is there just no one playing this race this week because of the chicane a penalties? Total waste of time... one mistake and your at the back of the pack and basically in a B driver lobby.
This has been bugging me ever since I first tried Sports Mode. Granted, I don't have the time to play online like I did during GTS but are there really that few people playing Sports Mode?

In GTS, no matter what time I logged on I would get grouped with drivers of a similar DR/SR. I've been in lobbies with DRs from A+ to C, lobbies with SR S to D and on the rare occasion a lobby with everyone of the same DR/SR.
 
This has been bugging me ever since I first tried Sports Mode. Granted, I don't have the time to play online like I did during GTS but are there really that few people playing Sports Mode?

In GTS, no matter what time I logged on I would get grouped with drivers of a similar DR/SR. I've been in lobbies with DRs from A+ to C, lobbies with SR S to D and on the rare occasion a lobby with everyone of the same DR/SR.
Assuming total sales of 5 million:

Finished one race in Sport Mode - 13.0% have trophy, so 650000 is the maximum worldwide playerbase.
Finished 50 races in Sport Mode - 2.2%, 110000 regular players.

Split those 110000 into regions, DR & SR ranks, those who aren't playing anymore, segregation between PS4 & PS5 players - yeah it's not a big pool.
 
I'm not trying to sound condescending and I am very far from elite. Your example is very reasonable, although I think the PD sportmanship video would say that any move with probable contact should be avoided. Not very practical in the real world, I know. I did have some good battles with people at Sardegna, going two or 3 abreast through sections with no contact, so it can be done if people have a similar mindset.

I think part of my frustration is the short sprint events of race A & B - I race usually in the GTWS longer races, where people seem to be more patient as there's more time.
Thanks for the clarification, and also for not taking major offense to what I said. I couldn't figure out how to word it properly.
 
I don't think next week is bad at all, A is creative, B is a good combo (and not on Hards) and C is a good track with underused cars, + it has tyre strategy.

No complaints really, if most weeks were like that I'd be happy.
Agreed.

Not really a fan of the rallying, but at least it's something new! I'll give PD credit for that.

Kinda wish Daily B was five or six laps, but this combo hasn't been done in a bit... and the RM tires is a nice touch.

As far as I know, C is brand new. So kudos for that.
 
I'm getting so tired of this particular driver (not naming) now! Same one who took @JP76 and I out previous races did it again turn one and then lap 2.

Started P8 with a 1:24:4 and he rammed me all the way down to P16 half-way through lap 1!

Managed to keep my cool and drive my way and managed to catch up, mostly because he was shoving everyone off the entire race!

I get to P8 again with him in front, tried the overtake but he wouldn't let me but karma struck and he spun on his own, giving me P7 and managing to make up the 9 positions I lost because of him 🎉😁

Also, he didn't get a single penalty all race, having shoved half the field off throughout the race!!

Also @Leon Kowalski .... 🤪
 

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Ultra high downforce cars in Race C, Gr.3 again in race B, soon GT will be the real Assetto Corsa Competizione simulator. I guess I will be rallying next week.
 
Which one do people think is the META gr.2 car then?
I ended up buying the 3 for the menu book collection. 800,000 is alot for a car I rarely use.
 
Which one do people think is the META gr.2 car then?
I ended up buying the 3 for the menu book collection. 800,000 is alot for a car I rarely use.
For me the three '16 cars are always the choice to go to. I'd say it depends on your driving style. If you want a car to turn in and rotate really good off the gas then go with the NSX. If your looking for high speed stability go with the RCF. The Nismo is the most all around car and it wouldn't surprise me for it to be the meta. But lately with the GR.2 cars the NSX tends to have the fastest laps.

Sleeper might end up being the SC430 and the '08 NSX. Had some success with those.
 
Against my judgment i tried again yesterday. I had a top split driver in my lobby. He had a 1:34.4xx quali time. Top 25 in the world. I was P2 with a 1:36.024 and the other half of the lobby was B drivers. Is there just no one playing this race this week because of the chicane a penalties? Total waste of time... one mistake and your at the back of the pack and basically in a B driver lobby.
I think it seems exciting enough and getting decent lap time makes you feel like you can take it on and have a good time but the actual race has too many variables on top of the CoD. The pressure you feel to "keep pace" is hard to overcome and it forces you into making a mistake. The chicane itself is variable in that you might be taking it on on Hards or in dirty air or on worn Mediums...not to mention turn 3 that can also kill you if you don't take it right. Or turn 1 where impatient drivers try to overtake when they shouldnt.

I was P1 yesterday lap 5 only to end up P11 after messing up on the chicane. But I also was only P1 because the 3 guys in front of me crashed. Which isn't really how I want to end up in P1 anyway. A few weeks ago it was a 5 lap race I think and it's fine enough there. No tire wear and it's a bit more consistent. 10 laps with tire wear and a tire swap....it's just suicide.
 
I think it seems exciting enough and getting decent lap time makes you feel like you can take it on and have a good time but the actual race has too many variables on top of the CoD. The pressure you feel to "keep pace" is hard to overcome and it forces you into making a mistake. The chicane itself is variable in that you might be taking it on on Hards or in dirty air or on worn Mediums...not to mention turn 3 that can also kill you if you don't take it right. Or turn 1 where impatient drivers try to overtake when they shouldnt.

I was P1 yesterday lap 5 only to end up P11 after messing up on the chicane. But I also was only P1 because the 3 guys in front of me crashed. Which isn't really how I want to end up in P1 anyway. A few weeks ago it was a 5 lap race I think and it's fine enough there. No tire wear and it's a bit more consistent. 10 laps with tire wear and a tire swap....it's just suicide.
I think if you can stay calm and focused and just race your own race your ok. But that's easier said than done. I had a race leading by about 8-9secs. Took too much kerb at T3 and lost it. Couldn't face the right way soon enough before P2 & P3 came round the corner. Think the best way through the COD is back off throttle at the overhead gantry, minimal throttle through the chicane to keep it stable.
Far too many slamming brakes on. Had a few crashes caused by 'brake checking'
 
Am I wrong?
No. It's the single most used overtake move in real racing.
And the contract doesn't come from you "diving" in, it comes from the other driver turning in on you. He should have seen you coming and either closed the door before you dove or set up for a switchback instead.
although I think the PD sportmanship video would say that any move with probable contact should be avoided.
Yes. In this case the contact is the fault if the outside car though, unless Grumpy uses all the track on exit and doesn't leave room for the other car.
This has been bugging me ever since I first tried Sports Mode. Granted, I don't have the time to play online like I did during GTS but are there really that few people playing Sports Mode?

In GTS, no matter what time I logged on I would get grouped with drivers of a similar DR/SR. I've been in lobbies with DRs from A+ to C, lobbies with SR S to D and on the rare occasion a lobby with everyone of the same DR/SR.
The split between consoles are probably a big part of it.
I am on PS4 and always gets full lobbies of the same DR/SR
 
The approaching red Alfa's move had so much Wile E. Coyote energy I had to share it


Cant help but laugh that Karma got the better of them 😂
Couldn't work out if the Spaniard in front spotted the move or lost it. Had to watch few times. Dirty grass under braking.
 
My opinion on the dive bomb is that if I can out brake someone to their driver door BEFORE turn in begins, then the spot is mine and I need to hold tight to the corner to not push into them. If i cant get to the driver door, then the position is NOT mine, and I back off.

This is probably conservative, but I try to race with the mindset that I'm in reality and that crashing is going to cost me money and possibly injury. I personally think if everyone maintained that mindset, we would have some clean racing.

NOTE: I did not watch Grumpy's video, so this is just a general opinion and nothing to do with whatever happened there.
 
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"Dive-bombing" implies hitting the corner at too high a speed, and bouncing off another car to make the turn. And my feeling is, unless it was a honest mistake of not braking early enough, this is unacceptable. If you have to use another car to slow you down, then you're doing it wrong.

What I'm talking about is reaching the corner first, on the inside and under control. Most often this results in some sort of contact. But if I make the corner sticking to the berm on the inside, and don't exit it in a way that forces the other car off the track, then it's his fault for leaving the opening, in my opinion. Am I wrong? And yes, I know there are nuances, but I think the distinction is pretty clear.

By the way, "Something called racecraft. People should learn it..." is basically the same as saying "git gud". Not helpful in the least, and to me, it comes across as sounding condescending and elitist.
My opinion on the dive bomb is that if I can out brake someone to their driver door BEFORE turn in begins, then the spot is mine and I need to hold tight to the corner to not push into them. If i cant get to the driver door, then the position is NOT mine, and I back off.

This is probably conservative, but I try to race with the mindset that I'm in reality and that crashing is going to cost me money and possibly injury. I personally think if everyone maintained that mindset, we would have some clean racing.

NOTE: I did not watch Grumpy's video, so this is just a general opinion and nothing to do with whatever happened there.
This is the go-to move for a lot of people who can't do much else. But even though it keeps happening to me, I've come to see it as part of the craft that I need to learn. I'm really amazed by the people who can do it cleanly, although it depends on the lobby. If it's a B driver I tend to think of it as "dirty," and when it's an A+ driver I tend to think of it as "wow, he's better than me." Of course, during a race I don't know what they're rated, so I'm usually thinking "Dammit! Not again!" :banghead: But I definitely think that this is one of those things that I'm going to have to learn if I want to be competitive.

Edit: I forgot Ronald one thing: part of the reason why this move leads to so many incidents is because we can’t actually see what’s going on beside us. I wonder if PSVR2 will add a level of awareness to side-by-side maneuvers?
Why would you reverse LM?????????? Insane.
Wouldn't it be fun if it was actually raced in reverse . . . as in, everyone driving their cars in reverse?!
The approaching red Alfa's move had so much Wile E. Coyote energy I had to share it


Super-Genius!

Ok, so for all the folks who have been talking about wheel settings: I don't think the controller sensitivity has anything to do with wheels. It's only for wireless controllers as far as I can tell. So only the FFB Torque and FFB Sensitivity settings at the bottom of that menu affect the wheel. As far as the sensitivity goes, from what I can tell, it affects how much you feel the road and how much wiggling the wheel affects the car. For instance, the chicane at Nurburgring GP went a lot easier for me when I turned sensitivity to 1 because the wheel didn't wiggle when I went over those curbs, and so the car didn't respond to the wiggles as I tried to control the car. It sorta smoothed the whole experience out (less sensitive).

On to on more issue: I've been running Race C this week and my best pace is in the 911. I had some great races with @KosmoKazi but I'm not quite ready for prime time yet. I kept binning myself on the CoD. Usually it was the last lap with me saying "Just relax, and get through it one last time. Don't crash, don't crash, don't . . . AGH! I crashed!" But it was some good racing! He proved that my 9/1 (medium/hard) strategy could work. Thanks, Kosmo, for the good racing and for making an effort to put our little kerfuffle behind us! I hope to learn more from you.

What I want to ask is this: how are people so dang fast in the Nissan?! I want to get more competitive and of course the Nismo is the meta in most weeks. I want to be able to drive it, but I'm a full 2 seconds slower in it. I can do the Jaguar almost as well, but the cars that the "professionals" use (Nismo, M6, AMG, etc.) I just don't seem to be good enough in. Can someone help me figure out some things to get better at it? Some advice other than "git gud" would be much appreciated.
 
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My opinion on the dive bomb is that if I can out brake someone to their driver door BEFORE turn in begins, then the spot is mine and I need to hold tight to the corner to not push into them. If i cant get to the driver door, then the position is NOT mine, and I back off.

This is probably conservative, but I try to race with the mindset that I'm in reality and that crashing is going to cost me money and possibly injury. I personally think if everyone maintained that mindset, we would have some clean racing.

NOTE: I did not watch Grumpy's video, so this is just a general opinion and nothing to do with whatever happened there.
I strongly disagree with the whole 'drive as you would if your real car and life were at stake' sentiment, but unlike a lot of other people with that mindset at least you are aware it is conservative, so fair enough. I'm definitely not advocating deliberate dirty driving either though, even if you can get away with a lot without getting penalised in the game now.

But it's worth remembering what the racing that inspired these games looked like. There was a fair share of rubbing, lunges up the inside, borderline push to pass driving etc. which definitely don't fall under 'drive like it's your own car and life' type racing.


 
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