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I finally saw some success with qualifying at Trial Mountain. I was #10 on my friends list, which was about to drop me off the first screen. Then in the span of a few minutes, I had a big breakthrough.

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Can't believe I managed to better @Bullwinkle by .005 seconds. (I'm not dissing anyone here - it's the .005 seconds that's amazingly close.) I also can't believe a sub-1:59 time is within shouting distance.
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I also managed a P4 at the race. I started P3, and threw away one position right near the end with a couple of bad turns. But at least I didn't get my butt handed to me this time. Oh, and I haven't been using assists (except ABS). They're not needed with the TT. Now when I tried the Mustang, that's a different story. Can't even get to the starting line without clenching my butt cheeks. TMI?

Back up to DR B/A, with my progress bar over 99%. If I get bumped up to A, I'll be back down in a flash. I've come to accept that I'm really a high-B driver, not an A driver.
 
Dan_Tes
I got myself in a right old pickle today, I'm desperately trying to better my TT time when I get a spare moment so have neglected daily races (completely ignored B again, and I like TM!). Jumped on for one race in C but a now uncompetitive qualifying time left me in the middle of the grid.. Had an incredibly early braker into T1 who I accidentally slammed into (I will take full responsibility but he took a very aggressive defensive line in front of me then braked..). I waited for him at the apex only for him to leave the lobby, leaving me second from last and inside last place as a shadow. Popped out of him off the racing line and was all out of shape for the hairpin and outbraked myself.... hit someone else (Sorry!! Absolutely fully my fault). Waited for him, then absolutely lost the back end in the technical bit and ended up in the barrier with 5 seconds worth of penalties. That precipitated a rage quit which I try not to do but it felt necessary at that point, I was an absolute embarrassment!

Hoping for a better experieence next time, it left me feeling pretty ropey as a couple of good races earlier in the week made me feel like I was getting somewhere DR wise. I am a mid B but I know my one lap pace is good enough for A. I completely lack race craft having only started sim racing online last summer and new to a wheel so it's all a learning experience for me. It's just fustrating when you make so much progress having clean quick racing to just make every mistake in the book in half a lap!

We go again tomorrow!
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I had a race similar to that earlier today. Had a guy brake at the 500 board into the first hairpin at Grand Valley and I, who was following very very closely, absolutely sent him into the shadow realm. I earned that 4 second penalty b/c I think he went off the cliff or something.

That said I have zero feelings of badness about it. He broke way too early for that corner, there wasn't precedent set that he'd brake that early, and even with superhuman reflexes to slam on the whoa pedal there's no way I'm not just absolutely punting him.

I understand that the game says "bad HK don't do that" but like maybe also don't be braking 150 meters before you should be I guess?

Then I had another race where a guy with a 4.5 second penalty was weaving across the esses trying to collect anyone else he could so I lined up, hit the gas, and sent him to the realms as well. No penalty that time so gg me :D

Just wish people were more predictable I think.
 
GrumpyOldMan
I finally saw some success with qualifying at Trial Mountain. I was #10 on my friends list, which was about to drop me off the first screen. Then in the span of a few minutes, I had a big breakthrough.

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Can't believe I managed to better @Bullwinkle by .005 seconds. (I'm not dissing anyone here - it's the .005 seconds that's amazingly close.) I also can't believe a sub-1:59 time is within shouting distance.
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I also managed a P4 at the race. I started P3, and threw away one position right near the end with a couple of bad turns. But at least I didn't get my butt handed to me this time. Oh, and I haven't been using assists (except ABS). They're not needed with the TT. Now when I tried the Mustang, that's a different story. Can't even get to the starting line without clenching my butt cheeks. TMI?

Back up to DR B/A, with my progress bar over 99%. If I get bumped up to A, I'll be back down in a flash. I've come to accept that I'm really a high-B driver, not an A driver.
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Thanks! I've only got 2 friends playing GT7 and neither do the online things (Other than the TT), so this at least gives me SOMETHING to compare my time to other than the youtubers playing for 16 hrs a day.
 
GrumpyOldMan
I finally saw some success with qualifying at Trial Mountain. I was #10 on my friends list, which was about to drop me off the first screen. Then in the span of a few minutes, I had a big breakthrough.

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Can't believe I managed to better @Bullwinkle by .005 seconds. (I'm not dissing anyone here - it's the .005 seconds that's amazingly close.) I also can't believe a sub-1:59 time is within shouting distance.
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I also managed a P4 at the race. I started P3, and threw away one position right near the end with a couple of bad turns. But at least I didn't get my butt handed to me this time. Oh, and I haven't been using assists (except ABS). They're not needed with the TT. Now when I tried the Mustang, that's a different story. Can't even get to the starting line without clenching my butt cheeks. TMI?

Back up to DR B/A, with my progress bar over 99%. If I get bumped up to A, I'll be back down in a flash. I've come to accept that I'm really a high-B driver, not an A driver.
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Well played.

But for your ability I'd be chasing 1:58... watch the replays and take a gear earlier and through the bends

I think I'm a 1:58:4 or about 800th or so. Those times are awkward because they aren't fast but not slow so in mixed lobbies it will be hard work.
 
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GrumpyOldMan
Back up to DR B/A, with my progress bar over 99%. If I get bumped up to A, I'll be back down in a flash. I've come to accept that I'm really a high-B driver, not an A driver.
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Gee i reakon if you tend to stick to tracks each week you are decent at, you can settle into the DR-A rating at that pace. A near 59 flat is competitive, top half of grid in A lobbies, so you're there and thereabouts.
 
Good that they fixed the pit bug at GV. But like some corners on GV, the track limits just don't make sense. The fast S section in Highway 1 layout is too harsh. And can't recall which corner it is at South layout, but seemingly you get a 0,5 sec penalty out of nowhere 🤦

Anyways Daily Race A seems fun, although can be a bit boring with the car and track combo being tricky to drive => gaps here and there, since players struggle with the consistency in this combo. Probably doing some more before Daily C grinding tomorrow. I am glad they've fixed RR driving physics, the old Porsches are slidey, but not too snappy, now it is something you can manage, like it should be. But ofc a complete deathtrap combo still for the less experienced ☠️ You cannot be afraid of the drifting, just gotta send it and do lots of trail braking, and pumping throttle + brake at same time if needed.
 
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Yikes! I can’t even beat 2:02 with the Audi…. Race B isn’t for me this week.
NevilleNobody
Europe is always faster than north america. Mind you my SR is A not S so that's keeping me away from the top splits.
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Why might that be? Might it be we don’t know how to drive stick and the average American is a bit, ahem, girthier than the typical European?

Oh right, this is virtual, added weight to the virtual car doesn’t count! 😁
 
Really loving race B. Down in the depths of DR C, so many cars are viable now. A couple of seconds off the pace of a lot here but having fun so who cares.

Managed to thread the needle on this pass - no contact at all somehow.
 

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Am I the only one that almost smashes the PS to pieces when I log on 10 minutes before Race C starts, only to get a 300MB update that takes 15 minutes to install for some stupid reason?! What the hell am I supposed to do for the next 30 minutes...:irked:
 
NevilleNobody
Some decent racing here, though my tiny mistake cost me at least two place. The Brazilian at the end is a dirty cheat, always tries to run you off the road.

I felt I left the silver Mustang enough space, only just mind you, and he ran wide. Touch borderline but I did the same thing the lap before and he tucked it in better. Bob Sacomano is an excellent racer, clean and fast.

I seem to be very quick through the first tunnel, my entry onto the back straight is very hit or miss though.

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Had a guy do that to me at DT two weeks ago. Got in my racing line and almost took me out. Ended his race 5 seconds later.

Not cool to try and sneak into someones line like that and try to play it off as no big deal.
 
TheNormsk
Yikes! I can’t even beat 2:02 with the Audi…. Race B isn’t for me this week.

Why might that be? Might it be we don’t know how to drive stick and the average American is a bit, ahem, girthier than the typical European?

Oh right, this is virtual, added weight to the virtual car doesn’t count! 😁
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Have you given something else a shot? I have a 2:01:4 with the Jaguar which puts me near the front of my C/B lobbies. I just had a race where Pole was a TT and the Jag out accelerates them into T1 which let me run away from the field from there for the win. Race Pace was a mid 2:01 for fastest lap from me so I know there's more time in the car in Qualifying trim. Maybe the TT and your driving style just aren't compatible.
 
I've gotten a very low 2:01 at Trial Mountain in the Porsche, Mustang and Toyota, nearly identical times in all three. I've been waiting for the bop to get adjusted as I really like the light and nimble feel of the porsche. These times aren't very competitive in my lobbies.

But TM just doesn't 'click' with me. In either gr4 or gr3, I just don't drive it well.
 
AmateurDriver
If your looking for more friends, can i be one as well? I've been a long time gamer, and do have friends to play with but unfortunately not one of them is into GT7 or simracing in general...
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Absolutely!
GrumpyOldMan
I thought the discussion of "dirty air" was only for Grand Valley, not Trial Mountain. Am I wrong? I didn't pay much attention to it, honestly.
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The discussion is on Race C of course, with the longer race and faster cars, but there is a reason why people are missing their marks on Race B. The weight of the fuel is part of it, but I’ve felt the dirty air virtually suck my car right off the track at some high speed turns. I think a lot of the contact is because of this (in part) but I’m also frustrated by the obvious dirty tactics.
newb1017
I should start trying to add some of you regs as friends. This is the only game I play on PS5. What is the protocol/process for a friend request? Also, do you ask by screenname or PSN?
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Ask away! I added my PS ID to my signature.
GrumpyOldMan
Can't believe I managed to better @Bullwinkle by .005 seconds. (I'm not dissing anyone here - it's the .005 seconds that's amazingly close.) I also can't believe a sub-1:59 time is within shouting distance.
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Dang it! But you neglected to mention the random car I made my best time in . . .
Nebuc72
A fair few cars are competitive in Race B; the Audi is certainly on top but I've had good luck with the Porsche, the '86, the Mustang - and I've seen some good drivers pull off great times in the AMG and the F-Type.

Might not be the best for quali, but they can all hold up fine in the race.

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Give the Lexus a shot. It likes to run like the Jag and Mustang, but man does it go. Worth a shot at least, for something different. I like that there are so many options this week!

I keep getting into trouble at the beginning of Race B. I out-accelerate the Audi in front of me in each race and am just past the car by T1. But not everyone is happy about it and immediately the bad contact begins. I tried slowing down to not pass the Audis in front of me, but then I get clobbered by the cars behind me. Argh! I need to qualify better so I don’t have to worry about it!
 
Bullwinkle
Absolutely!

The discussion is on Race C of course, with the longer race and faster cars, but there is a reason why people are missing their marks on Race B. The weight of the fuel is part of it, but I’ve felt the dirty air virtually suck my car right off the track at some high speed turns. I think a lot of the contact is because of this (in part) but I’m also frustrated by the obvious dirty tactics.

Ask away! I added my PS ID to my signature.

Dang it! But you neglected to mention the random car I made my best time in . . .

Give the Lexus a shot. It likes to run like the Jag and Mustang, but man does it go. Worth a shot at least, for something different. I like that there are so many options this week!

I keep getting into trouble at the beginning of Race B. I out-accelerate the Audi in front of me in each race and am just past the car by T1. But not everyone is happy about it and immediately the bad contact begins. I tried slowing down to not pass the Audis in front of me, but then I get clobbered by the cars behind me. Argh! I need to qualify better so I don’t have to worry about it!
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here's what I found: If I can be along side the TT on the inside of the first bend at Trial Mountain I can make it cleanly through and they have to back off. If I'm on the outside (and savvy drivers will force you to take that line) you're the one who has to back off.

So ya know just do that :D
 
I tuck in, don't pass into t1, it's suicide. You're right, they SHOULD back out but most don't, get the wobbles, hit you, or bounce off the wall, or lose sight of brake markers and collect you into the tunnel. Just tuck in and get em into the tunnel, 90pc go wide under pressure into that left.
 
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Bullwinkle
I keep getting into trouble at the beginning of Race B. I out-accelerate the Audi in front of me in each race and am just past the car by T1. But not everyone is happy about it and immediately the bad contact begins. I tried slowing down to not pass the Audis in front of me, but then I get clobbered by the cars behind me. Argh! I need to qualify better so I don’t have to worry about it!
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Try bumping the Audi instead, so he speeds up a little. Yes, it slows you down a little, but there's less chance of a dust-up at T1. Of course, he might not realize you're trying to help, but maybe you can explain it to him post-race.
 
hollowkatt
Have you given something else a shot? I have a 2:01:4 with the Jaguar which puts me near the front of my C/B lobbies. I just had a race where Pole was a TT and the Jag out accelerates them into T1 which let me run away from the field from there for the win. Race Pace was a mid 2:01 for fastest lap from me so I know there's more time in the car in Qualifying trim. Maybe the TT and your driving style just aren't compatible.
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Nebuc72
A fair few cars are competitive in Race B; the Audi is certainly on top but I've had good luck with the Porsche, the '86, the Mustang - and I've seen some good drivers pull off great times in the AMG and the F-Type.
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I have tried multiple cars. The Ferrari 458 suits me the best so far. That was what I had good results with on Monday. Today, I tried the Mustang and Audi and I was all over the place around 2:02 to 2:08. Terrible.

I then went to Race C and I was was off there as well, unable to break into the 1:49s though I was lapping pretty consistently in the low 1:50s with the 911RSR. The Fort GT and the McLaren tonight were not as fast as I expected; mid 1:50s to :1:51s.

It could be just me being off form tonight. I have my new set up in place but it's not as comfortable as before. The TV is higher and there is nothing I can do about that and I adjusted the chair to compensate but I'm just not as comfy - legs going to sleep. I might actually build plywood bass for the chair to raise it up a bit and then I can bolt it down in my preferred comfy position which will also eliminate the mid section lifting when I stomp on the pedals. Can't justify spending any more money on this, so I need to hack a solution. Plywood base and some 2x4s should do the job.

BTW, I ran 20 laps of GVH1 and the sunset is great as ever and then I got to night. At one point I thought I was reaching sunrise but it didn't happen. I wonder how long the night is before you get to sunrise?

Tonight I'm in a dilemma. On the Time Trial it took me 5 hours the other day to get into the top 3%. I check this morning and I was still good and presume I would be to the end at this point. I just happened to then check at 4pm and would you know it the lead time shifted and now I'm at 3.07%. That sucks. Now I guess I need to spend more hours to try to get back into the top 3%. I want that gold cup...
 
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Race B is tearing me up this week. I started out with a 2:01 QT and kept getting murdered in the mid-pack. Dropped my QT to 2:00 and moved up about one position and then murdered again in the mid pack. Very angrily dropped my QT to 1:59.8 and started in top 5. Things go smoothly until a guy pinches me tight coming out of the big left hairpin. We touch slighty but nothing major. He immediately takes offense and revenge and suplexes me into the wall. Climb back to P5 and pass him on the last lap tangled around a tree.

I thought TM would be more spread out and let the race pace shine through but the high speed corners let people dive bomb from a second back. Guys
are immediately going for gaps as soon as they open up when they know it isn't going to last. Most notably the tunnel and corner after.

Ive been trying to get my SR back to S after Spain but after my last race tonight which I received the clean race bonus it dropped down to B.
 
TheNormsk
BTW, I ran 20 laps of GVH1 and the sunset is great as ever and then I got to night. At one point I thought I was reaching sunrise but it didn't happen. I wonder how long the night is before you get to sunrise?
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As far as I'm aware, GV doesn't have a 24 hour cycle - so once it hits the "end" point of its cycle, it will stay there indefinitely.
 
3 great races for me tonight. I did improve my qualifying time to a 2:00.012 after my 2nd race which is not much over yesterday, but an improvement nonetheless. Each race was mostly clean up front where I was running, but I did see a few calls of dirty driving post race.

For race 1 I start P5 and make my way up to P3. On lap 3, I get the car all sorts of off kilter in the downhill turn where the stump is the brake marker and drop back to P5. A great save by me I must say. I can't catch up due to my losing all momentum finish in P5. A podium would have been nice, but a high finish is all good with me.

Race 2 has me in P7 to start, even with my new time. Again, nice clean and hard racing the entire time. There was one driver in this race, and the previous one, that didn't have full control of the car and made some mayhem that I wasn't caught up in for a change. I have a nice battle with a TT driver for P4, bit I can't get around them. Like yesterday, I get a good run out of the final corner and take home P3 by just over a tenth of a second. Fantastic racing and we both congratulate each other post race.

For race 3, I start in P3 this time and I did have a run in with a driver. Admittedly, I did make a dumb move on them on the last turn, and they retaliated once we got going again. But, I didn't take the spot and let them get ahead of me. This happens after the initial contact which is in the start of the clip.



Naturally, I don't think I did anything wrong entering the corners, but I'd like to get a second opinion on that. I did give a little bump entering the first corner from what I can tell, but it's not like I did it on purpose. But if it was a dirty move, it was dirty and I won't let it happen again. The rest of the race is uneventful and I finish in P3.

Aside from my little encounter in Race 3, an overall successful evening at Trial Mountain. I'll gladly take 2 podium finishes. After the races I needed to get my time down under 2:00 and I do just that. My new time is at a 1:59.6XX and I'm over the moon I got my time down to that. All night I was in that "zone" Grumpy was talking about a few weeks back. I'm also glad to be in all B rank lobbies so we are basically on the same skill level. Maybe I can get a win tomorrow as I should be closer to the front with the new qualifying time. Looking forward to it!
 

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