GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Fezzik]

I got tired of driving in the A lobbies, so I took matters into my own hands.

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DNFed four consecutive races - just quit from the lobby. Then for good measure, screwed up in the fifth race and had to DNF that one too (engine damage).

So now I can just race and have a good time. I hope. Fingers crossed.

I did something similar (B to C), but I actually finished the races (dead last) to preserve my SR. Much happier down a level, don’t need to commit as much time, more fun races in the midfield pack.

 

[hollowkatt]

I got tired of driving in the A lobbies, so I took matters into my own hands.

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DNFed four consecutive races - just quit from the lobby. Then for good measure, screwed up in the fifth race and had to DNF that one too (engine damage).

So now I can just race and have a good time. I hope. Fingers crossed.

if only the upcoming races weren't dumpster fires... GR.4 Fuel Saver? no thank you. GR.3 on Hards at Interlagos? nah
is this the week I start Elden Ring? the world may never know

 

[newmedia_dev]

I got tired of driving in the A lobbies, so I took matters into my own hands.

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DNFed four consecutive races - just quit from the lobby. Then for good measure, screwed up in the fifth race and had to DNF that one too (engine damage).

So now I can just race and have a good time. I hope. Fingers crossed.

Errr hmmm

I don't know what to say. If you finish last or 3rd is doesn't matter it's experience with those around you.

Quitting 4 races is a bit "different" as a strategy rather than gain experience and naturally fall back like I did but each to their own on that I guess. False hubris is false hubris at the end of the day.

And when you say you got tired do you mean the paces are so similar and car control just that bit better that the races and tighter and closer? If so it's diminishing returns in A lobbies as everyone is fast and can drive to a degree.

 

[newb1017]

Yep I got my corners mixed up. I meant the left hander before the short run down to the chicane. Its at the bottom of a small hill. Probably explains why I can't get it right if I don't even know how to describe where it is!!

I can't consistently get it but boy does it feel good when you nail that turn.. there is a ton of time there when you watch the delta go up or down in QT.

I was trying to do what the alien ghosts were and getting far right and trying a bigger, higher speed arc, but I cant even bust 2:00 so I was just bleeding time...lol I tried a tighter line and ended up in the grass lots in QT.

The best line for me has been to approach the turn slightly right of middle of the track and turn in on a line that will have your left tires on the curb (and extended curb) for as long as possible. You can get on the power really early and on a line that uses lots of that left curb you won't go off into the grass when you hammer the throttle. You should just naturally get to the right curb through the turn, with no lifting required. Also, you can take a good chunk of that curb at the beginning without a penalty or unsettling the car.

The hardest part is nailing the turn in point to get that line imo... when I miss it I have to lift and that is an awful place to be bleeding time

 

[D Quick]

Yep I got my corners mixed up. I meant the left hander before the short run down to the chicane. Its at the bottom of a small hill. Probably explains why I can't get it right if I don't even know how to describe where it is!!

In that case I usually brake around the crease in the hill and try to get rotated early. The front wheel drive will really help pull you around the corner.

The tires are really doing a lot here braking down hill and trying to turn/accelerate. You need to make sure your're done braking, before turning, then accelerating. Everytime I get ahead of myself I always go wide and have to back out a touch.

Be careful because it is easy to pick up a penalty if you go to far inside.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I can't consistently get it but boy does it feel good when you nail that turn.. there is a ton of time there when you watch the delta go up or down in QT.

I was trying to do what the alien ghosts were and getting far right and trying a bigger, higher speed arc, but I cant even bust 2:00 so I was just bleeding time...lol I tried a tighter line and ended up in the grass lots in QT.

The best line for me has been to approach the turn slightly right of middle of the track and turn in on a line that will have your left tires on the curb (and extended curb) for as long as possible. You can get on the power really early and on a line that uses lots of that left curb you won't go off into the grass when you hammer the throttle. You should just naturally get to the right curb through the turn, with no lifting required. Also, you can take a good chunk of that curb at the beginning without a penalty or unsettling the car.

The hardest part is nailing the turn in point to get that line imo... when I miss it I have to lift and that is an awful place to be bleeding time

Don't watch what the ghosts do, watch what gear they are in and they do it early, gear down to rotate, gear up to accelerate.

This game/sim/simcade is all about smooth constant throttle. Let the car coast and then nail it. You have to flow and go

 

[Michelin Man]

Race C a Gr.4 fuel saver... yay... thrilling..

Having recently renewed my PS+ for the first time in a long while, I must admit I'm tempted to dabble with some dailies again (alongside the organised lobby events I prefer). Especially with next week's daily A. The RA272 is my favourite thing to drive at the moment, such good fun. Even more so on lower grip tyres (Sport Softs and GVH South is a fun combo worth lapping). Plus I've been on a livery-making binge with the RA272 lately .

Even so on RH it should be fun enough around Monza, so I'll be checking that out. B and C don't exactly set the world alight as combos go, but with the recent BoP update rightfully pegging the 4WD contingents back, my usual Gr.4 favourites being FF's (TT, Scirocco and the Mégane), could be more useful 🤔.

 

[Tidgney]

Beat the meta !

 

[Bullwinkle]

It's a horrible move. They are doing 250KMH and the audi cuts across Sturk's line into the braking zone, if he doesn't take avoiding action it's a plane crash.

I don't think it's dirty. It just seems like a foolish risk to pull right in front of another car, right at the point where everyone brakes heavily.

Agreed. It's not dirty or malicious. It is very very messy though and relies heavily on the following driver being able to react quickly enough to dodge.

Some thing I'm having to remind myself is we're not pros and we're not all at the same skill level and sometimes what I perceive as dirty is really just bad driving/skill issues/being messy.

I recant my position. I was looking at the wrong thing!!! Sorry guys. I’d say it was either driver inexperience, or maybe a bit of a lag issue. But yes, I have to agree that it was a bizarre choice. Cutting across in front of @sturk0167 just to take a suboptimal line seems like inexperience more than anything.

if only the upcoming races weren't dumpster fires... GR.4 Fuel Saver? no thank you. GR.3 on Hards at Interlagos? nah
is this the week I start Elden Ring? the world may never know

Ha! I’m still waiting to get into Elden Ring as well! It’s been a year!!!!

 

[newmedia_dev]

Just a question, do you peeps watch the top lap replays in all the different cars? I ask because they spell it out on a plate. Sure us normal people have to brake earlier and screw up an exit or two but if you just watched the laps and focus on what they do you would be a lot quicker.

Don't beat them, follow them for a few laps.

 

[Hodd10]

I can't consistently get it but boy does it feel good when you nail that turn.. there is a ton of time there when you watch the delta go up or down in QT.

I was trying to do what the alien ghosts were and getting far right and trying a bigger, higher speed arc, but I cant even bust 2:00 so I was just bleeding time...lol I tried a tighter line and ended up in the grass lots in QT.

The best line for me has been to approach the turn slightly right of middle of the track and turn in on a line that will have your left tires on the curb (and extended curb) for as long as possible. You can get on the power really early and on a line that uses lots of that left curb you won't go off into the grass when you hammer the throttle. You should just naturally get to the right curb through the turn, with no lifting required. Also, you can take a good chunk of that curb at the beginning without a penalty or unsettling the car.

The hardest part is nailing the turn in point to get that line imo... when I miss it I have to lift and that is an awful place to be bleeding time

In that case I usually brake around the crease in the hill and try to get rotated early. The front wheel drive will really help pull you around the corner.

The tires are really doing a lot here braking down hill and trying to turn/accelerate. You need to make sure your're done braking, before turning, then accelerating. Everytime I get ahead of myself I always go wide and have to back out a touch.

Be careful because it is easy to pick up a penalty if you go to far inside.

Thank you both for this. I'll give it a try. Every other corner I can do in a reasonable manner. This one I have a mental block with.


Just a question, do you peeps watch the top lap replays in all the different cars? I ask because they spell it out on a plate. Sure is normal people have to brake earlier and screw up an exit or two but if you just watched the laps and focus on what they do you would be a lot quicker.

I do watch the replays but I like to understand the why alongside knowing the how if that makes sense. Asking questions on here helps me get the 'why' part.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I actually finished the races (dead last) to preserve my SR

My SR was already tanked, so a little bit more doesn't really hurt.

Errr hmmm

I don't know what to say.

It's usually best to not say anything in that case.

False hubris is false hubris at the end of the day.

What are you talking about? You think this is an issue of pride? Get over yourself. I'm just sharing what I'm doing. If you don't like what I say, ignore me. But don't insult me - you don't know me at all.

And when you say you got tired do you mean the paces are so similar and car control just that bit better that the races and tighter and closer? If so it's diminishing returns in A lobbies as everyone is fast and can drive to a degree.

I'm saying I'm not good enough to race with that crowd, and I'm not enjoying it. Which, by the way, is the opposite of hubris. I don't want to start way down in the pack - there's too much conflict and I end up getting creamed. To me, that's not fun. If that makes me a wus, then so be it - I'm a wus. But I play games for fun, not pride. Well, I suppose I'm like anyone else in that I do take pride when I finish well and drive well, but if that's not normal, then I don't want to be.

And I'll also say, thanks a lot. I come to this forum for camaraderie, entertainment, knowledge, and sometimes to let off steam. I didn't expect to have someone raise my blood pressure and ruin my day like you have. I seem to remember it's possible to block certain users. If so, consider yourself blocked.

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

6 Laps Race B Hallelujah!!! What's everyone's vibe for next week's races? Was watching Kie trying out Race C and it looks like since theyve neutered the Gr4 AWDs into oblivion the choices are much more interesting. Wish the Cayman was competitive as it's the one I enjoy driving the most. Though I do tend to find the more technical tracks a bit more fun.

 

[newmedia_dev]

My SR was already tanked, so a little bit more doesn't really hurt.

It's usually best to not say anything in that case.

What are you talking about? You think this is an issue of pride? Get over yourself. I'm just sharing what I'm doing. If you don't like what I say, ignore me. But don't insult me - you don't know me at all.

I'm saying I'm not good enough to race with that crowd, and I'm not enjoying it. Which, by the way, is the opposite of hubris. I don't want to start way down in the pack - there's too much conflict and I end up getting creamed. To me, that's not fun. If that makes me a wus, then so be it - I'm a wus. But I play games for fun, not pride. Well, I suppose I'm like anyone else in that I do take pride when I finish well and drive well, but if that's not normal, then I don't want to be.

And I'll also say, thanks a lot. I come to this forum for camaraderie, entertainment, knowledge, and sometimes to let off steam. I didn't expect to have someone raise my blood pressure and ruin my day like you have. I seem to remember it's possible to block certain users. If so, consider yourself blocked.

I'd just like to point out that not liking starting at the back of the pack is hubris....and quitting to get more favourable lobbies is ego or hubris. Pick which ever.

Id also like to say thanks a lot, I came back to this forum because you posted a not quite accurate account of what happened in a race. I called you out and we moved on. You diarise your whole journey and that's cool but I'm not sure what you are learning or how you are learning on the way.

I'd also like to point out learning I'd go from the back, not the front. You improve by moving forwards not looking backwards.

Edit: grammar and spelling.


Actually I'm gonna double down on this, your SR was tanked....I'm mortified if mine isn't a S quite frankly because it's the thing other people can judge. It the bit that says "I'm not a rammer" how you tank an SR is beyond me unless you prioritise position over the racing and then is why...I don't have to make those decisions.

Edit 2:

Of corse you aren't enjoying it, the racing is tougher, like fractions. But the people in those lobbies don't want dive bombs or bumps because you don't need to. You are all going the same pace if not faster...

So I'd imagine you don't like racing at the top end because they are going faster, don't appreciate a race slowing dive bomb or tap and you can't keep up. Neither can I, it's really hard and I do it with no assists. I finished 6th in an A lobby but started 16th so you need to think about what racing means to you.

 

[Nebuc72]

Popcorn tastes good.

I think everyone has that moment where they go from one rank to another, and find themselves "out of their depth" in the higher ranked lobbies. I certainly have. I'm sure some of the people that have been here for a while recall me having a strop when I hit A+ because I was always floating about in last, and I tanked my rating down back to A to give myself a fighting chance in lobbies again.

But at the end of the day, DR dictates your pace, it's not somewhere you get by luck. I tanked my rating, just to get back to where I was a week or two later. The same happens to everyone who decides to tank their rating - because you're just being put back where you belong.

The best way to improve is racing people faster than you, it might be something that dissuades you at the start, as it did me before I realised this all - but a few weeks or months of racing people at the back of A and you'll suddenly find yourself at the top end of the field, knocking on the door of A+ ready to start the whole process over again. Racing in the back of those lobbies is how you get to the top of those same lobbies.

It's a fruitless effort to derank yourself, because you have that rank for a reason. It's a matchmaking system, and even if you don't like where you've ended up - it's because that's where you deserve to be, and it will be where you end up until you deserve to be elsewhere.

 

[Fezzik]

Was doing a quick recce for next week’s Monza race



Good thing I don’t have VR yet.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

Having recently renewed my PS+ for the first time in a long while, I must admit I'm tempted to dabble with some dailies again (alongside the organised lobby events I prefer). Especially with next week's daily A. The RA272 is my favourite thing to drive at the moment, such good fun. Even more so on lower grip tyres (Sport Softs and GVH South is a fun combo worth lapping). Plus I've been on a livery-making binge with the RA272 lately .

Even so on RH it should be fun enough around Monza, so I'll be checking that out. B and C don't exactly set the world alight as combos go, but with the recent BoP update rightfully pegging the 4WD contingents back, my usual Gr.4 favourites being FF's (TT, Scirocco and the Mégane), could be more useful 🤔.

Oh, I know where I will be next week

 

[2Quickrides]

Was doing a quick recce for next week’s Monza race



Good thing I don’t have VR yet.

That's awesome

 

[Michelin Man]

Oh, I know where I will be next week
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You never know, but hopefully we could come across each other on track 🤞.

It would be a good excuse for me to run different liveries. I know with yourself that means you'd be spoilt for choice with the superb array of liveries you've been making for the RA272 as of late .

 

[CmdrParabolus]

Me driving American FR cars without TCS. Hilarious video:

 

[hollowkatt]

I'd just like to point out that not liking starting at the back of the pack is hubris....and quitting to get more favourable lobbies is ego or hubris. Pick which ever.

Id also like to say thanks a lot, I came back to this forum because you posted a not quite accurate account of what happened in a race. I called you out and we moved on. You diarise your whole journey and that's cool but I'm not sure what you are learning or how you are learning on the way.

I'd also like to point out learning I'd go from the back, not the front. You improve by moving forwards not looking backwards.

Edit: grammar and spelling.


Actually I'm gonna double down on this, your SR was tanked....I'm mortified if mine isn't a S quite frankly because it's the thing other people can judge. It the bit that says "I'm not a rammer" how you tank an SR is beyond me unless you prioritise position over the racing and then is why...I don't have to make those decisions.

Edit 2:

Of corse you aren't enjoying it, the racing is tougher, like fractions. But the people in those lobbies don't want dive bombs or bumps because you don't need to. You are all going the same pace if not faster...

So I'd imagine you don't like racing at the top end because they are going faster, don't appreciate a race slowing dive bomb or tap and you can't keep up. Neither can I, it's really hard and I do it with no assists. I finished 6th in an A lobby but started 16th so you need to think about what racing means to you.

and you're accusing grumpy of hubris? this whole post reeks of "I know better than you". have the day you deserve and welcome to the ignore list.

 

[TheNormsk]

I got tired of driving in the A lobbies, so I took matters into my own hands.

Quitting does tank your SR though and B/B lobbies can get quite entertaining.

Was doing a quick recce for next week’s Monza race



Good thing I don’t have VR yet.

The BA272 in cockpit is quite the trip with the bolts right in the middle of your view. You can barely see anything. You can adjust your seat to raising and move it forward which helps but only to a point.

You should name your car Hotdog. 'Cause it goes well with roll.....


Ok, I'll take my dad jokes away now..

 

[D_Dragline]

Race C a Gr.4 fuel saver... yay... thrilling..

So if I exclusively do Race A, I can expect a DR reset with no way to restore my lost DR?

 

[Fezzik]

Quitting does tank your SR though and B/B lobbies can get quite entertaining.

The BA272 in cockpit is quite the trip with the bolts right in the middle of your view. You can barely see anything. You can adjust your seat to raising and move it forward which helps but only to a point.

You should name your car Hotdog. 'Cause it goes well with roll.....


Ok, I'll take my dad jokes away now..

I like it in cockpit view. It’s one of the few cars with useful mirrors. Still has the distracting “one handed driving” animations though.

 

[newmedia_dev]

and you're accusing grumpy of hubris? this whole post reeks of "I know better than you". have the day you deserve and welcome to the ignore list.

I have an opinion which is fair to be challenged I also said I'm comfortable being cards im dealt (back end of high lobbies) and I'll work my way up.

What I didn't say is I'd quit to be placed higher up the grid and I pointed out that's a pretty rubbish way to gauge improvement.

My whole post reeks of I get how it works, I'm happy to be in a grid that is 1 second above me and my time is 900th in the world.

So yes I expect tighter racing, and not diving in.

It's not hubris or ego it's knowing where I am in the world, but what I won't do is quit to get lobbies I'm top of. You are confusing or conflating appreciating where you are with justifying where you think you should be and result and actions show them.

Edit: for clarity, I'm going from top of B to A and A+ lobbies so my expectations are much more realistic when these peeps are over 1 second faster.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

You never know, but hopefully we could come across each other on track 🤞.

It would be a good excuse for me to run different liveries. I know with yourself that means you'd be spoilt for choice with the superb array of liveries you've been making for the RA272 as of late .

Let's see if the delay between races allow for livery changes. I can probably run all week without repetition of liveries

 

[NevilleNobody]

It can be a bit demorolising. I can go weeks on end barely getting a sniff of a podium and surrounded by A+ guys and high A drivers. I don't have any desire to win every race but 50 races in a row with no podium despite being "quickish" in the grand scheme of things can be tough. In saying that, I just live it or nudge a wall or two to drop my SR a bit.

 

[2Quickrides]

It can be a bit demorolising. I can go weeks on end barely getting a sniff of a podium and surrounded by A+ guys and high A drivers. I don't have any desire to win every race but 50 races in a row with no podium despite being "quickish" in the grand scheme of things can be tough. In saying that, I just live it or nudge a wall or two to drop my SR a bit.

I'm guessing that's the very reason why PD went with tracking top 5's instead of podiums like everybody else

 

[newmedia_dev]

It can be a bit demorolising. I can go weeks on end barely getting a sniff of a podium and surrounded by A+ guys and high A drivers. I don't have any desire to win every race but 50 races in a row with no podium despite being "quickish" in the grand scheme of things can be tough. In saying that, I just live it or nudge a wall or two to drop my SR a bit.

And that is racing to be quite honest.

How do real world mid pack racers cope when they only get 10-15 chances for a whole year...

 

[2Quickrides]

And that is racing to be quite honest.

How do real world mid pack racers cope when they only get 10-15 chances for a whole year...

Ask most of the F1 grid