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I'm going to assume that you weren't criticising me for having nearly 600 posts in almost six months (mostly in this thread). But if for some reason that's a problem, please let me know. Thanks.
No, it's demonstrative of the fact you're actually part of the community rather than just looking to use it for promotional purposes for your own benefit.

If high post counts were an issue, I'd be the biggest issue of all.
 
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Well it finally happened. After two-three days in mostly A / A+ lobbies and finishing P5-P7, I finally got a B lobby again. Started in P2 and clean raced it all the way to victory!

The result? I'm now DR-A!

Ps.... I'm really not worthy of that rating yet.
 

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I moved back up to DR A tonight, as expected my 1000th in the world qualifying time put me either 8th or 11th.

Pole was a 1:56 mine is a 1:58 so expectations are very low. Enjoyed every single one of these races, my ambition was top 10 and maybe sneak a 9 or or 8th but the pace and race craft is such a step up I took my 10th and relished it. And the next one. The racing is so much better when you trust the people around you not to do stupid stuff.
 
I moved back up to DR A tonight, as expected my 1000th in the world qualifying time put me either 8th or 11th.

Pole was a 1:56 mine is a 1:58 so expectations are very low. Enjoyed every single one of these races, my ambition was top 10 and maybe sneak a 9 or or 8th but the pace and race craft is such a step up I took my 10th and relished it. And the next one. The racing is so much better when you trust the people around you not to do stupid stuff.
Yikes. Mine is 1:59:0xx. Think I might take a break from trail mountain and try GV1.
 
If high post counts were an issue, I'd be the biggest issue of all.
Thanks.
Ps.... I'm really not worthy of that rating yet.
I'm not sure "worthy" is the right word. The question is, can you survive (and possibly enjoy) being in A lobbies? I so, then don't worry if you feel worthy or not. Who cares? You earned it.

As I mentioned before, I couldn't survive and enjoy A lobbies, at least not at TM this week, so I got myself back down to DR B. Three races in B lobbies so far, and I started P1 in all three. And... I still suck at this track. A DNF, a P7, and a P11. I actually think it's becoming a mental block now - I'm doing stupid things left and right. Well, I guess I always knew I was mental, so this should be no surprise.

Can't wait for Interlagos next week (fingers crossed I don't suck there too).
 
This week has been an odd one for me. I've been very angry at times and I've had to take a step back and remember why I play in the first place.

I've been bouncing off the top of DR B all week so the competition has been chippy and fierce. Despite a couple of wins its been a lot of lows.

One race I start P4, first three laps the top three pull away about 2 seconds, and I pull away about 2 seconds on p5. But on the last lap they start squabbling with each other and I'm back to 4 tenths on the group. Well a certain out-of-towner nukes the pact starting on the back stretch. Great, I'll be gifted a p2. As I go to pass the carnage the out-of-towner unghosts and just rails into the wall. I finish p6. This can't be interpreted any other way than being a sore loser.

Another race I start p5. P4 slightly messes up T1 and I back off to give space. Not a big enough mistake to capitalize on but I had to come off. Which then causes P6 to nail me and create a train of chaos. Fight back to p11

I then went on a string of races where me and another out-of-towner were fighting over p2 by ourselves. He had a better QT but I had better race pace. Every time I would attempt a pass down the straight he would swing over at the last minute to block and brake check. Very frustrating to say the least.

Next race I'm bumper to bumper with another guy and it's been good clean racing. Unfortunately on the next corner he brakes slightly early and (I'm not sure how) I launch him with the force of a falling star into the wall. I was on the brakes but this guy is a speeding bullet off the track. I apologize, he calls me dirty and then seeks revenge the rest of the race.

I went into this week wanting to be very competitive and felt competitive but it has been a choppy week and at times made me angry which is the opposite feeling I want playing a game.

So I had a mental reset and reminded myself to forget stats, numbers, and positions and just drive the best I can and if I get knocked down into p15 to see how far I can fight back up. It's a hobby after all.

If I really want to be competitive and challenge myself I always have the time trials.
 
Sorry it's been rough. I generally don't race unless I can get a really high QT to get me close to the front. I practice really hard until I'm good at a track. Being confident does help, but like you said u can't control other drivers.

Hope it turns up soon!
 
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First of all, thanks a lot to everyone who gave me feedback on my PS5 controller question. Almost forgot that, sorry🤦‍♂️. Not unexpectedly, there was no consensus on how to set up the triggers, so I'll have to figure it out by myself. Right now, I'm leaning towards leaving the trigger effect switched off. We'll see...

I finally did my first actual daily races for this week. Race A, on my practice account, because I'm still slow and not used to the DS5 controller and don't want to mess up races on my main account. I started from the back in B-C lobbies, which were mostly a ****show. I was able to avoid the, let's say, unexperienced drivers, but not all of the dirty ones. Except in one instance, where I was able to avoid a massive punt in T1. According to the replay, the guy, a fellow german, had started from pole, got swallowed in the mess and seemed to be mad at everyone, especially me, for the rest of the race. I cleanly defended an attempt by him to overtake me near the end of lap 4, and then had a hunch that he was coming for me in T1. I braked at my usual braking point, but when I saw him approaching like a missile on the radar, obviously without braking, I delayed turning in just long enough that he flew past me by some millimeters on the inside, straight into the barrier on the exit road. And he rage quit immediately. Actually, that felt great. I was so proud of myself 😜. Wouldn't have changed it for the race win 🥳.
 
I did a couple of C races last night but on both I ended up near the back, or at the back.

First race I’m P5 and first turn I completely forget I’m not up to race speed at T1 and brake way too early and get hit in rear and off the track. Entirely my fault. I rejoin down in something like 12th. I start having a good run and climb back to 9th but then make some mistakes (missed braking points, running off track) and drop back to finish down the back. Apart from my mistakes it was a good race especially as I was fighting to gain spots again.

I did some practice to learn where to brake T1 before the next race. This was a lesson learned as I switched off the braking assists as I’ve practiced this track a lot. But never from the starting grid… BTW the on track braking assist is really annoying at the hairpin on GVH1 during sunset as it is REALLY bright, so you don’t want the assist on.

Race 2 was a much tighter grid. I was P8 this time with my 1:49.49x and the spread was very close.

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This is going to be a close race!

T1 was a lot better this time and T1 I jumped to P7. A spin at the hairpin had me P6 and after the penalty spot I was up to P5. Good start. It did not last. I missed my braking point at T1 which sent me through the comes. I rejoined in P9 but it was the start of my downfall.. I think I was pushing too hard to try to catch up and I threw a stupid mistake, drifting onto the dirt in the Ss dropping to P10 in lap 2. Lap 3 I gain a spot back as someone else spun out but I was on the tail of the car in front, clearly faster, but not faster enough to find a clean move. Lap 4 at T1, the car in front lost it and I passed on the inside. They came back in and just whacked me in the rear. Not sure if that was dirty or just bad driving but I should have been easy to avoid. Caused me to spin and hit the barrier giving me a penalty with the insult as well. Dropped to P12. By the time the penalty was applied I dropped to last car running, P14. I never recovered from that and I actually finished P12 but was still the last car running.

So the last two races were disappointing. As I was competitive enough to easily be in the top half if I hadn’t been hit. My DR took a hit but with some clean race bonuses earlier in the day my SR is back to S.

EDIT: Updated race 2 having reviewed the replay. I originally mixed up some prior races into that one.
 
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NOTE: This is a rant. I don't care if anyone cares or not. I'm just fed up, and I need to let off some steam. If you don't want to read a rant, even if I will try (and probably fail) to intersperse some humor, then "This is not the post you're looking for. Move along."

I am SO done with Daily Race B. I hope I never see it again. I've had some Daily Race Bs in the past that have given me struggles, but this has been the worst week by far.

Why, you (probably don't) ask? Two reasons:

1) I suck so bad at this track (during races) that not only am I shooting myself in the foot constantly, the bullets are ricocheting and hurting other people too. To the point that they're calling me out before races, and rightly so. It's embarrassing and pitiful.

2) When I manage to not to crap on myself, I apparently have a sign on my car that says "I will be your brake today. Feel free to use me however you wish. I will also be your pinball bumper, so if you really want that high score, bounce off me and I'm sure you'll get it."

Either that, or I'm completely invisible out there. People are probably saying "What was that? Did you feel something? It sounded like I hit something, but I swear I don't see anything."

I've done 18 races this week, which is the least I've ever done, and only one race where I finished higher than I started. Other than the 4 races I intentionally DNFed on to lower my DR, I've had:

DNF: 3
P11: 3
P7: 3
P5: 2

All of which were lower finishes than where I started. And every single one of them involved me getting track limit penalties, or hitting barriers, or both.

End of rant. See y'all next week.
 
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Jumped into my first VR Daily Race and was a little nervous. Never raced competitively in VR before to start and for some reason get put into a mostly A rated lobby with a pitter patter of B drivers. I trust the 911 the most on this track so off I went. Started in 7th and finished in 3rd thanks to a couple of drivers fighting for 3 laps. Was one of those where you just knew some **** was gonna go down and sure enough they slam into each other just before the mini tunnel turn in the middle of the esses. Managed go stay in 3rd the remainder of the race albeit with some slow laps (mostly 1:50s). Have gotten my QT to a 1:48.3 with a little bit of room still to spare but I think that's it for my QTs this week.

All in all a good first week of VR minus a few technical hiccups! Onto Interlagos/Maggiore next week.
 
NOTE: This is a rant. I don't care if anyone cares or not. I'm just fed up, and I need to let off some steam. If you don't want to read a rant, even if I will try (and probably fail) to intersperse some humor, then "This is not the post you're looking for. Move along."

I am SO done with Daily Race B. I hope I never see it again. I've had some Daily Race Bs in the past that have given me struggles, but this has been the worst week by far.

Why, you (probably don't) ask? Two reasons:

1) I suck so bad at this track (during races) that not only am I shooting myself in the foot constantly, the bullets are ricocheting and hurting other people too. To the point that they're calling me out before races, and rightly so. It's embarrassing and pitiful.

2) When I manage to not to crap on myself, I apparently have a sign on my car that says "I will be your brake today. Feel free to use me however you wish. I will also be your pinball bumper, so if you really want that high score, bounce off me and I'm sure you'll get it."

Either that, or I'm completely invisible out there. People are probably saying "What was that? Did you feel something? It sounded like I hit something, but I swear I don't see anything."

I've done 18 races this week, which is the least I've ever done, and only one race where I finished higher than I started. Other than the 4 races I intentionally DNFed on to lower my DR, I've had:

DNF: 3
P11: 3
P7: 3
P5: 2

All of which were lower finishes than where I started. And every single one of them involved me getting track limit penalties, or hitting barriers, or both.

End of rant. See y'all next week.
Try Race C…
 
But this is exactly my point. Your bump wasn’t artificial. Like everyone, some combos suit you more than others, but you’re not a fraud. You’re just incorrectly assuming that no-one else does the same. I can assure you they do.

And I’ve seen your Q times. You’re a genuine A level driver. In many cases your times in road cars are A+ standard.
Yeah his pace is A+, no idea how he's B/A, qualy times are untouchable for me.

Grumpy, that's exactly how i felt at Seaside last week, I am quite fast there but kept either being hit of binning it, I must have crashed out of 90% of the races.
 
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I don't know what PD is thinking, but their lack of penalty logic is absolutely making me want to quit. Races B and C are both crash tests this week, and with no penalties other than gasp track limit penalties (those CHEATERS!) or stupid wall penalties, they're incentivizing bad driving. I was doing ok in my first (and only) couple of Races C tonight, but each time I ran off the track trying NOT to rear-end another car in a scrum with other cars, or missing their marks, etc. Each time I was hit with a penalty that basically took me out of the race. Grand Valley is a free-for-all this week, and it's pretty much unraceable for anyone not in P1-4. There's so much contact that anyone (like me) who wants to drive clean and do my best is SOL.

Someone suggested that driving in the higher ranked lobbies gives one an opportunity to learn from better and faster drivers, etc. etc. What I got in Race C was the dregs at the end of the line who were more interested in playing bumper cars. What I learned from racing in an A, A+ lobby is that it is better "strategy" to rear end a car off the road and drive on without any penalties than it is to avoid contact and get a tire off the road and receive a penalty. Heck, if I rear-end the car he'll probably get an extra penalty as well, which is only better for me, right? PD is incentivizing Bad sportsmanship.

Geez, PD, what are you thinking?! Seriously?! If you can figure out how to dock people's SR due to contact with other cars, then sure you can figure out how to apply penalties in a race as well, right?!

Oh well. In the meantime, these races are getting pretty stale anyway. There's not even an opportunity to try something interesting. The Nations Cup was stupid-boring with no strategy. Race C this week is just another stupid sprint. Next week could have been interesting, but Maggiore with Gr4 is a snooze fest! Meh.
 
Interesting the comments on bad driving for daily race C. I do not disagree with @Bullwinkle in that currently PD is incentivizing bad driving. The issue with Grand Valley is that while, for the most part, I thought the standard of driving was better than race B or those last week, one incident can ruin your race. It is next to impossible to recover on this course so the lack of consequence for bad or deliberate aggressive driving makes it easier to dispatch your opponents than pass cleanly.

I (kind of) like GVH1 and its technical challenge and had good results at the start of the week. But the races yesterday, both ending in last place along with last place finishes in B were disastrous to my DR. I will admit my driving yesterday was less than stellar. I made mistakes which cost me dearly. However, my mistakes were to braking points and I never impacted anyone else. However, those mistakes set me up in positions where I then came off the worse to another driver. That's not to say that would not have happened anyway but you never know.

This is one incident.



It starts at turn 1 where I overshoot the corner and lose a spot. Then as we approach the hairpin, at first I thought the car behind me got punted, sending them into me, but on reviewing other angles I am not so sure. Sure I think it was close my I think P8 hits their brakes and P7 just continues and dive bombs me into the hairpin. I was way ahead and had the line into the corner. They weren't even into my side when they hit my rear flanks. I went from 6th to 14th to never recover.

I have more like this.

What do you think?
 
I don't know what PD is thinking, but their lack of penalty logic is absolutely making me want to quit. Races B and C are both crash tests this week, and with no penalties other than gasp track limit penalties (those CHEATERS!) or stupid wall penalties, they're incentivizing bad driving. I was doing ok in my first (and only) couple of Races C tonight, but each time I ran off the track trying NOT to rear-end another car in a scrum with other cars, or missing their marks, etc. Each time I was hit with a penalty that basically took me out of the race. Grand Valley is a free-for-all this week, and it's pretty much unraceable for anyone not in P1-4. There's so much contact that anyone (like me) who wants to drive clean and do my best is SOL.

Someone suggested that driving in the higher ranked lobbies gives one an opportunity to learn from better and faster drivers, etc. etc. What I got in Race C was the dregs at the end of the line who were more interested in playing bumper cars. What I learned from racing in an A, A+ lobby is that it is better "strategy" to rear end a car off the road and drive on without any penalties than it is to avoid contact and get a tire off the road and receive a penalty. Heck, if I rear-end the car he'll probably get an extra penalty as well, which is only better for me, right? PD is incentivizing Bad sportsmanship.

Geez, PD, what are you thinking?! Seriously?! If you can figure out how to dock people's SR due to contact with other cars, then sure you can figure out how to apply penalties in a race as well, right?!

Oh well. In the meantime, these races are getting pretty stale anyway. There's not even an opportunity to try something interesting. The Nations Cup was stupid-boring with no strategy. Race C this week is just another stupid sprint. Next week could have been interesting, but Maggiore with Gr4 is a snooze fest! Meh.
I was in one of those with you. When I got into the lobby, my first thought was I could sneak away with some extra DR points with the A+ and A in the race. Yeah, not so much.

 
Interesting the comments on bad driving for daily race C. I do not disagree with @Bullwinkle in that currently PD is incentivizing bad driving. The issue with Grand Valley is that while, for the most part, I thought the standard of driving was better than race B or those last week, one incident can ruin your race. It is next to impossible to recover on this course so the lack of consequence for bad or deliberate aggressive driving makes it easier to dispatch your opponents than pass cleanly.

I (kind of) like GVH1 and its technical challenge and had good results at the start of the week. But the races yesterday, both ending in last place along with last place finishes in B were disastrous to my DR. I will admit my driving yesterday was less than stellar. I made mistakes which cost me dearly. However, my mistakes were to braking points and I never impacted anyone else. However, those mistakes set me up in positions where I then came off the worse to another driver. That's not to say that would not have happened anyway but you never know.

This is one incident.



It starts at turn 1 where I overshoot the corner and lose a spot. Then as we approach the hairpin, at first I thought the car behind me got punted, sending them into me, but on reviewing other angles I am not so sure. Sure I think it was close my I think P8 hits their brakes and P7 just continues and dive bombs me into the hairpin. I was way ahead and had the line into the corner. They weren't even into my side when they hit my rear flanks. I went from 6th to 14th to never recover.

I have more like this.

What do you think?


that move looooks real familiar.... Don't understand that at all, trying to stuff a car in where there is no space for it.

 
I don't know what PD is thinking, but their lack of penalty logic is absolutely making me want to quit. Races B and C are both crash tests this week, and with no penalties other than gasp track limit penalties (those CHEATERS!) or stupid wall penalties, they're incentivizing bad driving. I was doing ok in my first (and only) couple of Races C tonight, but each time I ran off the track trying NOT to rear-end another car in a scrum with other cars, or missing their marks, etc. Each time I was hit with a penalty that basically took me out of the race. Grand Valley is a free-for-all this week, and it's pretty much unraceable for anyone not in P1-4. There's so much contact that anyone (like me) who wants to drive clean and do my best is SOL.

Someone suggested that driving in the higher ranked lobbies gives one an opportunity to learn from better and faster drivers, etc. etc. What I got in Race C was the dregs at the end of the line who were more interested in playing bumper cars. What I learned from racing in an A, A+ lobby is that it is better "strategy" to rear end a car off the road and drive on without any penalties than it is to avoid contact and get a tire off the road and receive a penalty. Heck, if I rear-end the car he'll probably get an extra penalty as well, which is only better for me, right? PD is incentivizing Bad sportsmanship.

Geez, PD, what are you thinking?! Seriously?! If you can figure out how to dock people's SR due to contact with other cars, then sure you can figure out how to apply penalties in a race as well, right?!

Oh well. In the meantime, these races are getting pretty stale anyway. There's not even an opportunity to try something interesting. The Nations Cup was stupid-boring with no strategy. Race C this week is just another stupid sprint. Next week could have been interesting, but Maggiore with Gr4 is a snooze fest! Meh.
Yeah I mean we definitely predicted it before this week, not great combos for driving standards. Trial Mountain is a solid track and decent in Gr 4 but needs to be longer to at least cut out the pressure of people trying to pass everywhere at all times. That middle sector has one line, but they'll be damned if they don't think it's theirs to cling onto be damned anyone else.

I've tried a couple of Grand Valley, I'm at the back so it's actually not so bad but I can see the madness in front. Not finished either attempt, 10 laps of that track is way too much IMO. I'm done with it after 3. That middle sector is horrible.
 
What do you think?
Yup. This is typical of the stuff I was complaining about. Honestly, contact penalties might upset some people, but it will take care of a LOT of these stupid incidents. If PD can dock your SR for contact, I can’t understand why they don’t just penalize for it too. It won’t be perfect, but compared to this hot garbage?! I’d happily take the occasional unearned penalty if it cleans things up.
I was in one of those with you. When I got into the lobby, my first thought was I could sneak away with some extra DR points with the A+ and A in the race. Yeah, not so much.


I’m sorry I didn’t pay attention. I totally missed you being there. I wish that our friends were marked or something in the grief so we’d know. I can’t remember everyone’s names! Anyway, I remember that incident. I think it was my first race at GV and I thought it myself “Oh boy, here we go. This is gonna suck!” And I was right.
that move looooks real familiar.... Don't understand that at all, trying to stuff a car in where there is no space for it.


That guy. Ugh! He was terrible all race. For whatever reason his name shows up on the grid of racers as “this nickname has been deleted” but it shows up differently in the race. Maybe that’s just something PD does to some names, but if I take the same guy I keep seeing, like at the Nations Cup yesterday, he’s just like that. He’s fast, for sure, but he gets his wins by doing opportunistic crap like that. These are exactly the sorts of people who need to “learn sportsmanship” from penalties and not a stupid video.

Anyway, I don’t believe I’ll be doing any dailies today. Driving usually gets better as the week progresses, but this week it seems that people have just gotten more efficient at exploiting the lack of rules. I think I’ll prepare for next week. That Honda looks fun and I like Maggiore, even though Gr4 will take forever. It’ll make for some good nap time.
 
Feeling a bit deflated and defeated after a handful (7) attempts at the Trial Mountain race. It's been years since I've raced against real people, back into things with the PSVR2 so I started off in E. Now sitting at D but in every single race I have been punted, rammed on straights, pitted on the final turn, etc. I keep telling myself it will get better once I'm out of the beginner ranks but I don't think I have the patience to put up with this for much longer. Thinking I need to find a faster car and work on getting the pole first. The TT at the top of the leaderboard is unuasable for me in VR because no rev limiter, does anyone have any other suggestions? I've been running the Corvette so far because I like it but I feel like it is not competitive.

Also what's going on with the cars ghosting out in some turns. More than a few times I come off my line to give someone else space and avoid a collision, only to have 2 cars behind me literally fly through me and the car I was trying to avoid. I'd rather this than being dive bombed, but losing positions like that sucks. At what diver level does that stop?
 
Feeling a bit deflated and defeated after a handful (7) attempts at the Trial Mountain race. It's been years since I've raced against real people, back into things with the PSVR2 so I started off in E. Now sitting at D but in every single race I have been punted, rammed on straights, pitted on the final turn, etc. I keep telling myself it will get better once I'm out of the beginner ranks but I don't think I have the patience to put up with this for much longer. Thinking I need to find a faster car and work on getting the pole first. The TT at the top of the leaderboard is unuasable for me in VR because no rev limiter, does anyone have any other suggestions? I've been running the Corvette so far because I like it but I feel like it is not competitive.

Also what's going on with the cars ghosting out in some turns. More than a few times I come off my line to give someone else space and avoid a collision, only to have 2 cars behind me literally fly through me and the car I was trying to avoid. I'd rather this than being dive bombed, but losing positions like that sucks. At what diver level does that stop?
86, Mustang, Lexus, Porsche and maybe the Ferrari are all capable of decent times.

The Lexus is rapid off the line, if you start high up it's good for getting away from the chaos of turn 1in lower ranked lobbies.
 
86, Mustang, Lexus, Porsche and maybe the Ferrari are all capable of decent times.

The Lexus is rapid off the line, if you start high up it's good for getting away from the chaos of turn 1in lower ranked lobbies.
Thanks, I'll give those a shot and see what happens.
 
Try Race C…
I wish I could, but it's usually too long for my ADD to handle. I start zoning out, and unfortunately I can't put a live race on pause so I can get up and walk around... ;p
Grumpy, that's exactly how i felt at Seaside last week, I am quite fast there but kept either being hit of binning it, I must have crashed out of 90% of the races.
Thanks for sharing that. I don't know why misery loves company, but just knowing I'm not the only one that's had this happen makes me feel better.
I wish that our friends were marked or something in the grief so we’d know. I can’t remember everyone’s names!
I've wished for this many, many times. I can't remember names either.
Feeling a bit deflated and defeated after a handful (7) attempts at the Trial Mountain race. It's been years since I've raced against real people, back into things with the PSVR2
This week's TM has been brutal, so don't feel defeated. Or at least know that others (me) felt just as defeated. (See my comment a few lines up - that's what NevilleNobody was referring to.)
Also what's going on with the cars ghosting out in some turns.
If I'm understanding what you're saying, I read here a couple of days ago that the lower the lobby, the more ghosting PD does to try to help prevent crashes.
 
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Question/speculation for the next Manufacture's race. 24 laps at Spa, 24HR configuration....Day/night/day transition? Any thoughts?
So I ran the wtc800 60 min at spa last night for preparation (I understand that's not BOP), and it was amazing. Starts at dusk, goes into night, 2 spurts of night rain the second one heavy, then dawn for the finish. Really was incredible and immersive. Thinking about running it again in the Audi Gr3 (my manu) for the fun of it.

Oh yeh, and it pays $1.5m
 

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