GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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CmdrParabolus
So I ran the wtc800 60 min at spa last night for preparation (I understand that's not BOP), and it was amazing. Starts at dusk, goes into night, 2 spurts of night rain the second one heavy, then dawn for the finish. Really was incredible and immersive. Thinking about running it again in the Audi Gr3 (my manu) for the fun of it.

Oh yeh, and it pays $1.5m
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Yup, I think that's the best offline race in GT7. A shame that PD doesn't give us some more of them.
 
TheNormsk
Interesting the comments on bad driving for daily race C. I do not disagree with @Bullwinkle in that currently PD is incentivizing bad driving. The issue with Grand Valley is that while, for the most part, I thought the standard of driving was better than race B or those last week, one incident can ruin your race. It is next to impossible to recover on this course so the lack of consequence for bad or deliberate aggressive driving makes it easier to dispatch your opponents than pass cleanly.

I (kind of) like GVH1 and its technical challenge and had good results at the start of the week. But the races yesterday, both ending in last place along with last place finishes in B were disastrous to my DR. I will admit my driving yesterday was less than stellar. I made mistakes which cost me dearly. However, my mistakes were to braking points and I never impacted anyone else. However, those mistakes set me up in positions where I then came off the worse to another driver. That's not to say that would not have happened anyway but you never know.

This is one incident.



It starts at turn 1 where I overshoot the corner and lose a spot. Then as we approach the hairpin, at first I thought the car behind me got punted, sending them into me, but on reviewing other angles I am not so sure. Sure I think it was close my I think P8 hits their brakes and P7 just continues and dive bombs me into the hairpin. I was way ahead and had the line into the corner. They weren't even into my side when they hit my rear flanks. I went from 6th to 14th to never recover.

I have more like this.

What do you think?
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Had this happen to me at the hairpin at NGP. Posted it here and people told me that it was just someone trying a move they "thought" they had. But looked at it again and nah, it's dirty. It's so easy to just take someone out like this and not get a penalty. People really love to send it here. They do it because it's high reward and low risk. There's almost no chance of crashing or being penalized. At worst you stay behind the car. At best you either slip through or take him out and and slip through.
 
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Jumped into a couple Race As last night and this morning. They're pretty fun. The Porsche is fun to drive, especially the slidey bits of S2. I did probably seven races and still don't know how to best take that last turn onto the front straight.

Got a couple of wins and was winning a race when on lap four I got the boot from the race via the "Unexpected Error" deal. Thankfully, DR/SR is not effected as this was on my #1 account.

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HadOne2Many
Thanks, I'll give those a shot and see what happens.
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Switching to the Mustang already dropped 2 seconds off my qualifying time. I can get another second faster with a few more laps, thanks for the suggestion.

GrumpyOldMan
If I'm understanding what you're saying, I read here a couple of days ago that the lower the lobby, the more ghosting PD does to try to help prevent crashes.
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It was definitely preventing crashes, but at the same time it was jarring. I was being ghosted out gor normal wheel to wheel racing with zero contact, while the cars behind picked up free positions by pretending like no one else was on the track and driving through us. Felt like it had the opposite effect and was punishing me for being cautious. Hoping to make it to at least C today. Need to get out of this D group ASAP
 
As I’ve said before I actually like GVH1 but race C is unforgiving if you make any mistakes.

If you don’t make mistakes and don’t get embroiled in any on track shenanigans then you can do well. However, if you make a mistake it can easily set you up for last place. This was one such example.



Lesson for me. I need to get better at remembering where to brake in races when not relying on braking aids.
 
HadOne2Many
Switching to the Mustang already dropped 2 seconds off my qualifying time. I can get another second faster with a few more laps, thanks for the suggestion.



It was definitely preventing crashes, but at the same time it was jarring. I was being ghosted out gor normal wheel to wheel racing with zero contact, while the cars behind picked up free positions by pretending like no one else was on the track and driving through us. Felt like it had the opposite effect and was punishing me for being cautious. Hoping to make it to at least C today. Need to get out of this D group ASAP
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Wait or do laps until it starts to get dark or goes dark and you'll shave a considerable amount of time as the grip increases on the colder track. It doesn't help with race pace but will help the QT.

Ghosting is on a sliding scale with it being minimum at A+/S levels and almost to over zealous at the lowest levels, where even braking zones cause ghosting in ranked races to avoid rear end collisions.

Sadly it doesn't work great at any level to be honest 🤣
 
Got to love or hate daily race B this week. Monday I started well but the end of the week it was a disaster for me. I finally got though looking at some of the replays and I kept this one as an example of the excellent depravity of some of the driving in the first turns of the circuit.

I would laugh at the wildness of it, if it was a race with no DR consequence but it is not. As a result I usually finish shaking my head...

I'm certainly not without fault here as I overshoot turn 5, which sets up the following carnage but, that carnage also did not need to happen...



Somehow I neither gained nor lost a spot in all that confusion. Amazing.
 
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Did couple of race c's last night, if anything to get back in to the experience of dailies, in prep for next week.

Put in a mediocre quali lap in the week, using my trusty NSX. I decided to jump in my first race C, went as expected to be honest. Lack of pace and a little race rusty on my part. Q11 to P14, many track limit pens.

Wanting to try different cars, I ran the RS01 next. Pretty underpowered on the straights, some 5mph down on my NSX. But seemed better in race trim, especially in the twisties. Finished P10 after some some nice battles.

But the surprise choice for me was the Evo, had a soft spot for it on GTS. Managed to drop my qualifying time below a 1:48, and found it even better in the race. Jumped in for a late one, with a @GOTMAXPOWER sighting too 👋 . Started a surprise P6 and finished P8 I think, after a superb clean battle all race long. Plan to run the Beetle next tonight.

As for GVH itself, I'm falling in love with it (the 993 around South for A is a blast too). Stunning visuals and a beautiful flow to it, reminiscent of how GVS used to feel, but the layout is improved with this revamped version in my opinion :drool:.

(Apologies for the wall of text 😅)
 
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I think I have started on the grid everywhere from P1 to P16 this week!

A friday night all-B lobby had me P1 at GVH and I kept it together for 10 laps to finish p1 (this is exceedingly, improbably rare for me, not being humble, look it up!). Gotta love friday nights.

Saturday night, I start P16 at TM, lots of fellow gtpers there, in an AB(A+? can't remember) lobby. But I kept pace with the field, drove well, got p15 from someone serving a penalty on lap 4. From what I could see in the back, everyone was driving well.

Both races were satisfying to me in different ways. I never measure my satisfaction with P*. Because of the times of day I race and my timezone, I would say 8/10 of my lobbies are B/A/A+, some really, really stacked. I've long learned not to fear starting in the backfield or I would have given up long ago. And your DR can slowly, slowly trickle up, these racers can make mistakes or DNF. In fact, that is typically how my DR moves over a week or month - a very slow trickle in both directions.
 
I love driving GVH. While most races do evolve into driving them in a bubble, it still a fun drive. I've had a couple races where I held off another driver with a 1-2secs gap for a full 9 laps - tense and fun!

Anyone else like this part - After the sun goes down, if a car is about 1sec behind you, their headlights are bouncing wildly off the cliff walls going through that technical section - Terrifying!
 
GrumpyOldMan
NOTE: This is a rant. I don't care if anyone cares or not. I'm just fed up, and I need to let off some steam. If you don't want to read a rant, even if I will try (and probably fail) to intersperse some humor, then "This is not the post you're looking for. Move along."

I am SO done with Daily Race B. I hope I never see it again. I've had some Daily Race Bs in the past that have given me struggles, but this has been the worst week by far.

Why, you (probably don't) ask? Two reasons:

1) I suck so bad at this track (during races) that not only am I shooting myself in the foot constantly, the bullets are ricocheting and hurting other people too. To the point that they're calling me out before races, and rightly so. It's embarrassing and pitiful.

2) When I manage to not to crap on myself, I apparently have a sign on my car that says "I will be your brake today. Feel free to use me however you wish. I will also be your pinball bumper, so if you really want that high score, bounce off me and I'm sure you'll get it."

Either that, or I'm completely invisible out there. People are probably saying "What was that? Did you feel something? It sounded like I hit something, but I swear I don't see anything."

I've done 18 races this week, which is the least I've ever done, and only one race where I finished higher than I started. Other than the 4 races I intentionally DNFed on to lower my DR, I've had:

DNF: 3
P11: 3
P7: 3
P5: 2

All of which were lower finishes than where I started. And every single one of them involved me getting track limit penalties, or hitting barriers, or both.

End of rant. See y'all next week.
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It's just a bad week, take a rest and come back stronger with the next daylies
 
RacingGrandpa
Yep, Monza will make you feel really safe in T1! :D
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🤣🤣🤣 good point, but on the other side the shape of the car is not allowing to position the stiker "please press here to pass" on the rear of the car.

Btw interesting this Sr on DR off feature, like if people is interested in keep Sr high
 
icycls
Anyone else like this part - After the sun goes down, if a car is about 1sec behind you, their headlights are bouncing wildly off the cliff walls going through that technical section - Terrifying!
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I couldn’t figure out what was happening the first couple of times! I thought someone was flashing their lights at me and I was about to get punted!
 
Race B and my lack of QT made me feel totally inadequate this week.

Ironically, I’m low on credits so I thought I would give Trial Mountain a go on Circuit Experience as I’d not got to that one yet.

Turns out it was one of the easiest yet to gold! Go figure. Also when I look at my times I’m pretty happy with the results.
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Now I realize that once you get a gold, no one goes back to try to improve, but I’ll take my little bit of an ego boost that being quicker than a lot of you gives me. I need right now. :D

Perhaps I should have done this at the beginning of the week? 🤦‍♂️

Now to Daily Race A for next week. Anyone practicing this yet? I set up a room to simulate the race and with High Speed BOP I’m currently at a 1.59.1x for the course using cockpit view. Wondering how that stacks up?

Btw room is live now for a bit; search for DRA practice - RA272 only.
 
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TheNormsk
Now to Daily Race A for next week. Anyone practicing this yet? I set up a room to simulate the race and with High Speed BOP I’m currently at a 2:00.2x for the course using cockpit view. Wondering how that stacks up?
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I'm low B/S, and I do 1:58's on 100/100. I don't know if they have different BOP for this one though.

Edit: this is a race where those using Stability will suffer. This car is faster with a slip angle
 
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TheNormsk
Race B and my lack of QT made me feel totally inadequate this week.

Ironically, I’m low on credits so I thought I would give Trial Mountain a go on Circuit Experience as I’d not got to that one yet.

Turns out it was one of the easiest yet to gold! Go figure. Also when I look at my times I’m pretty happy with the results.
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Now I realize that once you get a gold, no one goes back to try to improve, but I’ll take my little bit of an ego boost that being quicker than a lot of you gives me. I need right now. :D

Perhaps I should have done this at the beginning of the week? 🤦‍♂️

Now to Daily Race A for next week. Anyone practicing this yet? I set up a room to simulate the race and with High Speed BOP I’m currently at a 2:00.2x for the course using cockpit view. Wondering how that stacks up?

Btw room is live now for a bit; search for DRA practice - RA272 only.
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Nice! I did the same thing this week. Looks like I might take another crack at it. Can't post me only 1/10th behind you and not expect that I will....
 
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RacingGrandpa
I'm low B/S, and I do 1:58's on 100/100. I don't know if they have different BOP for this one though.

Edit: this is a race where those using Stability will suffer. This car is faster with a slip angle
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I dropped to 1:58.x already.

I agree that this is a car that does well drifting through some corners. It’s a joy to drive but still much to learn what it can go and it’s limits…

Question does pit out laps count in QT as mine was a second+ quicker again.
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I’m thinking no as it’s red on the board….
 
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I am a fool, a whiner, and a glutton for punishment. I went back for more.

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This was purely a confluence of racing with a lot of people much slower than my QT, the main competition taking each other out (or at least slowing themselves down), and with no pressure, I didn't majorly screw up. I did get careless on lap 4 and incurred a .5 second track limit penalty, but other than that, smooth sailing.

This reminds me of golf. I'll be having a horrible round, and on the last hole I'll get a birdie and think "OK, I solved those problems." Which of course is a complete lie - it's just how the golf gods keep you coming back for more. Same principle here.
 
TheNormsk
Race B and my lack of QT made me feel totally inadequate this week.

Ironically, I’m low on credits so I thought I would give Trial Mountain a go on Circuit Experience as I’d not got to that one yet.

Turns out it was one of the easiest yet to gold! Go figure. Also when I look at my times I’m pretty happy with the results.
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Now I realize that once you get a gold, no one goes back to try to improve, but I’ll take my little bit of an ego boost that being quicker than a lot of you gives me. I need right now. :D

Perhaps I should have done this at the beginning of the week? 🤦‍♂️

Now to Daily Race A for next week. Anyone practicing this yet? I set up a room to simulate the race and with High Speed BOP I’m currently at a 1.59.1x for the course using cockpit view. Wondering how that stacks up?

Btw room is live now for a bit; search for DRA practice - RA272 only.
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Well couldn't help myself. Saved under keywords "cmdr" "trial mountain" and "circuit experience" for ghost.
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GrumpyOldMan
I am a fool, a whiner, and a glutton for punishment. I went back for more.

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This was purely a confluence of racing with a lot of people much slower than my QT, the main competition taking each other out (or at least slowing themselves down), and with no pressure, I didn't majorly screw up. I did get careless on lap 4 and incurred a .5 second track limit penalty, but other than that, smooth sailing.

This reminds me of golf. I'll be having a horrible round, and on the last hole I'll get a birdie and think "OK, I solved those problems." Which of course is a complete lie - it's just how the golf gods keep you coming back for more. Same principle here.
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Happy you're back!

Btw since there has been a lot of discssion lately about racing against sub-optimum drivers, would anyone like me to set up a lobby next Sunday for us forum-folk? We could do practice runs for the following week dailies as well as experimental testing alternative cars for the other dailies
 
Odd post but I'd like some clarification about the BoP.

One of the changes the 1.29 patch offered was the nerf/boost of some cars in the Gr.3 and Gr.4 classes. Nissan, Subaru and Alfa Romeo were mostly affected (for obvious reasons) and there were also some other minor HP tweaks mostly in MR/4WD cars as suggested below:

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The nerf of the GT-Rs in both classes and the 155/WRX in Gr.4 definitely applies as noticed in the recent daily race leaderboards, but some cars don't seem affected as suggested.

E.g. I'm a dedicated McLaren guy and I haven't noticed the HP boost in the BoP check for the 650S. I'm at 542 HP instead of 550 as seen in the picture above.

Have I misunderstood something about the unit differences?
 
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