GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[NevilleNobody]

Does anyone have any tips for the left hander before the back straight that leads down to the chicane? at TM. I can't seem to nail that corner. In races this is where people either really close the gap or pull away from me. I think i've tried every line imaginable through there but my speed seems slow.

Tight. Turn in SUPER early, as early as you can without hitting the inside wall, change down a gear to rotate, gas it as early as you can without hitting outside wall. The key is in the entry, don't go wide, you bleed time.

I am done for the week but found the racing at TM got better as the week went on and folks began to realise that sector 1 really was a bad idea to try and pass in. Got my qualy down to a 58.7 which helped me keep strong grid spots last night. My DR got a huge boost, back over half way after sinking to the lowest it's been in years.

So thought i'd discuss the countersteer assist, my default setting is weak (as I am ham fisted) but been experimenting with it off. Earlier in the week, with it off, I was struggling through the T1 esses and also getting a bit too light through the right hander at the top of the hill after the huge back straight. This assist is quite subtle but I really felt the difference with it on and off. It did, 100% help with those two corners/sequences, the back end felt less likely to slide and I had more confidence to attack, especially the right at the top of the hill I mentioned.

However, I did lose time too. The first tunnel, with CS off, I was an absolute GUN, diving in late, hugging the apex and poooooooooooooooooooooowering out, i lost time to no one there. With CS turned on, i definitely felt the understeer both on entry and on exit. I also felt it, to a lesser degree, on the big uhil left hander after the straight. Again, total gun there with CS off, I dive in early and charge up the hill, with CS on she doesn't quite want tot tuck in the same way and there's more power understeer.

It's subtle but it is there.

Some good racing here in my Hogg's Breath Cafe Supercar livery. Skidmark is a fantastic, clean driver. Another in the top 5 is a subtly filthy driver with sneaky late moves to guide you into the wall.

 

[Fezzik]

Some good racing here in my Hogg's Breath Cafe Supercar livery. Skidmark is a fantastic, clean driver. Another in the top 5 is a subtly filthy dirty driver.

Pretty sure calling someone dirty and posting their PSN username in the text is frowned upon here.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Oh yeah, ok will edit.

 

[Dan_Tes]

Possibly the last race of the week for me, back on race C and oh my goodness… Pole position, held my nerve through lap 1 and never looked back. Driver Sportsmanship* rating firmly in S now, not a foot wrong in that race, no penalties, no barrier contacts! We love to see it! Feeling good. Happy weekend all

 

[AmateurDriver]

Possibly the last race of the week for me, back on race C and oh my goodness… Pole position, held my nerve through lap 1 and never looked back. Driver rating firmly in S now, not a foot wrong in that race, no penalties, no barrier contacts! We love to see it! Feeling good. Happy weekend all

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Now that's the stuff we want to see. Good stuff Dan, good job! Getting in the mojo, aren't you?

 

[Tuning_Maniac]

If all you’re doing is trying different cars, you can save money and rent the cars.

Yeah but I like to run with custom liveries, so it's worth it.
It doesn't frustrate me, it was just a remark

 

[Nebuc72]

Race C a Gr.4 fuel saver... yay... thrilling..

 

[NevilleNobody]

Urggggggh Interlagos on RH is a grind, that mid section feels so sloppy. Might try the Honda in race A?

Keen to see the competitive layout of Group 4 at a more handling type track (TT fest???) but god I hate fuel sipping.

 

[TheNormsk]

Good morning everyone! Since yesterday I'm a proud owner of a PS5 and the GT7 upgrade...🥳

Welcome to the PS5 crowd! You'll be in different lobbies now as well with a smaller (but hopefully increase) number of competitors. You may find more split lobbies. It would always puzzle me how I could end up in lobbies with A+, A, B and C DR all at the same time. But if you race off hours it happens... During regular hours not so much.

Race A next week is interesting. DR off but SR on. Obviously going for clean racing and not caring so much about position. This could be a good move and the race for me next week. I want to get my SR up.

 

[Nebuc72]

Welcome to the PS5 crowd! You'll be in different lobbies now as well with a smaller (but hopefully increase) number of competitors. You may find more split lobbies. It would always puzzle me how I could end up in lobbies with A+, A, B and C DR all at the same time. But if you race off hours it happens... During regular hours not so much.

I'm pretty sure PS5 has more players than PS4 - the PS5 version certainly does better in the charts.

 

[TheNormsk]

I'm pretty sure PS5 has more players than PS4 - the PS5 version certainly does better in the charts.

Interesting as in prior conversations here I thought the consensus was that here were a lot more PS4 players, simply because PS5 was in such short supply until recently.

 

[Fezzik]

Race C a Gr.4 fuel saver... yay... thrilling..

Can't remember the last Gr4 fuel save I did.
The 86 is pretty frugal I think.

 

[Fezzik]

Interesting as in prior conversations here I thought the consensus was that here were a lot more PS4 players, simply because PS5 was in such short supply until recently.

"here were a lot more PS4 players" - GTP not really representative of the wider world. Folks round these parts hanging on to their old-gen machines.


sorry mods for doubling - please merge

 

[Talon16]

Race C a Gr.4 fuel saver... yay... thrilling..

A - SR on at Monza. Hm, interesting.
B - Maybe
C - Na.

Almost relieved as I could use a break; been doing this week's Daily C quite a bit. Still like it, but having a slower week next week is probably a good thing. I can work on the TTs and beating Sophy.

 

[Bullwinkle]

Race C a Gr.4 fuel saver... yay... thrilling..

Lordy. Wouldn't Maggiore be a great opportunity to try out the new Gr3 high speed BoP? There are a LOT of changes there and this would have been a great track for that. Darn it.

 

[Nebuc72]

Lordy. Wouldn't Maggiore be a great opportunity to try out the new Gr3 high speed BoP? There are a LOT of changes there and this would have been a great track for that. Darn it.

I've always heard that Interlagos is the BoP testing track, so I'm not too surprised Gr.3 is there again. Maggiore might be playing the same role for Gr.4

B and C seem very "testing changes" focused to me rather than being designed for a good event. They're very safe, very bland, and very boring.

 

[sturk0167]

I don't understand this move. Why in the world do people move in front of another car right at the start of a braking zone?
I see it happen all the time. Often, it results in a big multi-car crash.
Luckily for this driver, I hadn't been drinking too much at the time, and was still paying attention.

If I were him, I think I would have gone to the outside of the Audi, or stayed behind it.
Do any of you guys swerve in front of other cars right before you brake? Is it a strategy, or just an error of judgement?

 

[TheOneDonJuan]

Grand Valley works surprisingly well for racing side by side, this lap was really good fun until the black 911 took me out 🙃



The replay angles here are beautiful, PD have smashed it.

God I have no idea how anyone would prefer the old GV to this one. Stunning.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I don't understand this move. Why in the world do people move in front of another car right at the start of a braking zone?
I see it happen all the time. Often, it results in a big multi-car crash.
Luckily for this driver, I hadn't been drinking too much at the time, and was still paying attention.

If I were him, I think I would have gone to the outside of the Audi, or stayed behind it.
Do any of you guys swerve in front of other cars right before you brake? Is it a strategy, or just an error of judgement?

It's the false understanding of how they think they are covering/defending usually. "Be on the inside at all costs mentality"

He should have gone wide and taken the deeper sweeping line to hit the later apex but with higher exit speed than creep in hugging the whole radius.

I honestly think it's just peeps not understanding what exit speed really means in this game and that you are better taking the wide line sometimes where you can apply maximum throttle earlier and for longer to the exit and small straight.

 

[Hasnain282]

Lordy. Wouldn't Maggiore be a great opportunity to try out the new Gr3 high speed BoP? There are a LOT of changes there and this would have been a great track for that. Darn it.

Interlagos is under mid speed BoP (I'm assuming because of the middle sector), though they've made the BoP the same for all 3 types of track again anyway.

 

[NevilleNobody]

I don't understand this move. Why in the world do people move in front of another car right at the start of a braking zone?
I see it happen all the time. Often, it results in a big multi-car crash.
Luckily for this driver, I hadn't been drinking too much at the time, and was still paying attention.

If I were him, I think I would have gone to the outside of the Audi, or stayed behind it.
Do any of you guys swerve in front of other cars right before you brake? Is it a strategy, or just an error of judgement?

The fear is, if you don't take the inside you get punted.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I don't understand this move. Why in the world do people move in front of another car right at the start of a braking zone?

Back in my "anything goes" days, I considered this fair game for retribution. Not that I would hit them every time, but if they pull that move, they better be braking the same way I do, or they're into the boards.

Now I just slow down a little and mutter "idiot", or end up doing what you did - sometimes successfully, sometimes not.

 

[Bullwinkle]

I don't understand this move. Why in the world do people move in front of another car right at the start of a braking zone?
I see it happen all the time. Often, it results in a big multi-car crash.
Luckily for this driver, I hadn't been drinking too much at the time, and was still paying attention.

If I were him, I think I would have gone to the outside of the Audi, or stayed behind it.
Do any of you guys swerve in front of other cars right before you brake? Is it a strategy, or just an error of judgement?

Back in my "anything goes" days, I considered this fair game for retribution. Not that I would hit them every time, but if they pull that move, they better be braking the same way I do, or they're into the boards.

Now I just slow down a little and mutter "idiot", or end up doing what you did - sometimes successfully, sometimes not.

This probably won’t be a popular take. I’ve watched it a couple of times and I still don’t know what I’m seeing. Are you referring to the left-hand car? It seems like it was ahead of the Audi, at which point I’m not sure it’s dirty to take that line.

I know that I slide in behind people at a brake zone, but the flip side is that sometimes I slide in front of people before a brake zone as well. This is how things should be at T1 at the beginning of every race anyway. Practically speaking, I’m not sure there’s a huge difference as long as nobody is obstructing anyone’s braking point. Maybe that’s what I missed in the video?

 

[NevilleNobody]

This probably won’t be a popular take. I’ve watched it a couple of times and I still don’t know what I’m seeing. Are you referring to the left-hand car? It seems like it was ahead of the Audi, at which point I’m not sure it’s dirty to take that line.

I know that I slide in behind people at a brake zone, but the flip side is that sometimes I slide in front of people before a brake zone as well. This is how things should be at T1 at the beginning of every race anyway. Practically speaking, I’m not sure there’s a huge difference as long as nobody is obstructing anyone’s braking point. Maybe that’s what I missed in the video?

It's a horrible move. They are doing 250KMH and the audi cuts across Sturk's line into the braking zone, if he doesn't take avoiding action it's a plane crash.

 

[sturk0167]

This probably won’t be a popular take. I’ve watched it a couple of times and I still don’t know what I’m seeing. Are you referring to the left-hand car? It seems like it was ahead of the Audi, at which point I’m not sure it’s dirty to take that line.

I don't think it's dirty. It just seems like a foolish risk to pull right in front of another car, right at the point where everyone brakes heavily.

 

[hollowkatt]

Race C a Gr.4 fuel saver... yay... thrilling..

I want to drive none of these

I don't think it's dirty. It just seems like a foolish risk to pull right in front of another car, right at the point where everyone brakes heavily.

Agreed. It's not dirty or malicious. It is very very messy though and relies heavily on the following driver being able to react quickly enough to dodge.

Some thing I'm having to remind myself is we're not pros and we're not all at the same skill level and sometimes what I perceive as dirty is really just bad driving/skill issues/being messy.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I want to drive none of these


Agreed. It's not dirty or malicious. It is very very messy though and relies heavily on the following driver being able to react quickly enough to dodge.

Some thing I'm having to remind myself is we're not pros and we're not all at the same skill level and sometimes what I perceive as dirty is really just bad driving/skill issues/being messy.

There in lies the truth. The ability is so temperamental, the margins so small and factor in a bit of latency and it's amazing any of this works at all

It's skill vs results vs red mist vs misinformed although I'm gonna post a video in a moment where red mist was the thing.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Come on! You're not giving up, are you? 🤣🍻

Look what you made me do! All day at work, I kept thinking about you saying I'm giving up 🤣

Even during a presentation to potential investors, it kept burning in my mind... Thankfully still managed to do well at that 😅🤪

Came running (well, driving fast) home and after some 15 laps with close calls, I did a thing 🤣 Still ranked miles behind @Nebuc72 but he's a different species so I'm still happy with my effort 👽🤣😁

 

[icycls]

Right now when i switch it to "weak", then L2 (brake) gives more force / resistance than R2 (throttle). That feels weird. Don't know if that's a bug or a feature...😆

I too never played on ps4 (in fact gt7 is my first turismo). I've always had mine on strong, and to me, it is just how I learned. Now that people are talking about it, I might try different settings.

I also just sprang for the dualsense edge (I'm still on the fence about getting a wheel). The edge is overpriced for what it is and the triggers aren't different from what I can tell. However, if you are a manual transmission driver, the back paddles are fantastic! I usually drive autmotatic in the group cars but like manual in the road cars. The paddles are so much better than thumbing the buttons.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I got tired of driving in the A lobbies, so I took matters into my own hands.

Details on how this information was obtained can be found here, but it's boring.

DNFed four consecutive races - just quit from the lobby. Then for good measure, screwed up in the fifth race and had to DNF that one too (engine damage).

So now I can just race and have a good time. I hope. Fingers crossed.