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Genuinely, in these weeks I go out of my comfort zone and I will race less but I will double down on the GR4 race C

It's a good proving ground and better paced way to learn strats, get QT times and focus for a slightly extended time. I prefer sprints and if I'm honest I do better in GR4 sprints than GR3. But I really enjoyed the willow GR4 race and over time did well there.

Interlagos GR3 isn't an enjoyable race for me. Just personal preference and Catalunya isn't much better either in my opinion.
Agreed Willow has been my favorite race in sport so far. No hairpins and a tricky but fast uphill "chicane". This meant each turn was fast and required nuanced driving and attention to lines. Plus the tire options with fuel strategy was fun.

Working on QT for race C tonight.
 
Did my first race this week at Interlagos, with minimal Q laps. Started P6, ended P5, should have finished P4. This is already showing signs of being a much more enjoyable race for me this week, compared to my disaster of a week last week.

Right now I'm using the V12 Vantage, and I really like it. It seems pretty fast, and it can sure hold the track. Unless, of course, I find that piece of grass at T10,I mentioned in my last post:
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But I'm sure I'll get the hang of it.
You gotta give a slight lift off throttle mid corner. It is off camber and there’s a little bump mixed in as well.
I try to do a 3rd to 4th gear change there and if you’re lucky you don’t have to lift. 🍻
 
I think I was in that race. I was busy chasing your QT and decided to run one more for the night and there you are starting in front of me.

I usually don't run C a lot but I'm really enjoying it this week. I feel like laps 1-8 is about management and consistently and the last two are a shootout.

I was running top five in B lobbies but I think I was the only B in your race. Ended up finishing where I started but I'll take that racing you guys.

Please don't lower your QT anymore. I need to figure out the last three corners and I'll be able to match you.
You beat me, so who cares about QT? Seriously, I hosed myself with a "no-stop strategy." Feh to that.

I've been doing Race A, which is a ton of fun but is killing my SR. I dropped to A for a bit until I did a Race C clean from last place. This week is going to be horrible. Thanks, PD, for having a fun race with all of the downside and no benefit.

I was just in a race with @NevilleNobody and I started pole, only to get killed by P2 at T3. He didn't even bother to see if I was there, just drifted into me and took us both out. I ran from the back yet again. These last two weeks have me running at the back of A lobbies and all I'm "learning" from the back of the good lobbies is how to be a punching bag. I don't dare fight back because I'm apparently losing SR hand over fist.

How is it that I spent a couple of weeks building up my SR with lots of clean races, and then I have a handful of races where I'm the target of other people's anger and I get my SR killed? I work hard to avoid contact and dirty driving, and all it gets me is penalized and punished. Why don't we get to see a progress bar for that? Same old song and dance from PD I guess. And me, for that matter . . .
 
You gotta give a slight lift off throttle mid corner. It is off camber and there’s a little bump mixed in as well.
I try to do a 3rd to 4th gear change there and if you’re lucky you don’t have to lift. 🍻
Btw thanks for posting your Race C QT. Been using that for pointers as I have had significantly less time than usual preparing and running quallies.
 
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I'm thinking that race A is the best online racing I've had since I got GT7 a little over two months ago.

The combination of no DR and but SR rating is a winner in my regard! The racing is still there but I'm noticing civility in the racing. There is less of the "I'm going to take you out to gain a place" mentality as finishing position does not matter so much anymore; at least if you're not in the top 3.

My QT has been good enough to put in in the top 4 for starting. Getting off the line I'm not so good at so far, but I'm finding (with some strategic ghosting) that T1 is not the chaos that was expected.

Yeah, I dropped from 4th to 9th first corner, but with no DR I don't care..


What has caught me out in a couple races is actually turn turn 4. I've been having a flying good time there! :D

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After this little incident, I was down at back and I caught up and what happened was that the back three had a fantastic race. At this point I did not care about position I only cared about the race with the cars around me. Below is the last lap. What is cool is that there was respect for the other drivers and we all managed to avoid hitting each other.

Both I and the car in front also launched it. These cars love to fly.
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Now me.
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The final lap.


Now I can lap in the 1:58s so these two were holding me up and as you see on some corners I had to brake very hard to avoid collisions. What I am still not good at, with my online inexperience is having the confidence and still to pass cleanly, so most passing is based on other's mistakes. Races like this, they're not making mistakes but I know I could drive faster. I get that comes from experience...

Anyway it's a race for heroes. The cars are awesome, it's fun applying vintage liveries (I have John Player Special from the 70s Lotus days) and the handling, when you get used to it is really fun! Love it!
 
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Redemption! After a terrible last week, my first race B is kind to me.

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May I hope this lasts…

I tried many cars and while I enjoyed driving the Ford GT more, the 911RSR is king for me.

Edit. Did not last. Race 2 j was taken out on turn 3, torpedoed by an off track car coming back in out of control. Finished like p13 I think, not helped be me spinning out one time.

Race 3 was a lot more aggressive. Got bounce around but I managed to hold it together. Came in P8 from a P7 start only due to one car spinning out last turn (lucky for me) and a 1s penalty for thx car up front (must have been the cause of the spin out).
 
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I did yeah, it feels REALLY fast if you don't mess it up..............but I mess it up. It may well be the car i set my qualy time in but that's with ASM on and no way I can race with it.

Why we don't have BB to play with in this game REALLY hurts the cars that are available to me. The lift oversteer just kills me.

Yeah. The Huracan felt solid when doing QT but in race it it is more than a hand full mostly on the last tight right hander where it loves to spin nice tight circles rather than cooperate. Didn’t have that happen once while qualifying and tried to push it thinking that’s what would happen .

Jumped in a race and spun at the same corner on 5 of 6 laps. Finished the race p16. Proceed with caution ⚠️
 
Not sure about this week. Race B I'm a bit off the pace (though my friends leader board are A/A+ at the moment and I'm lowly B so perhaps not too bad) and it will probably become my DR race with more practice. Race C I am horribly off the pace. Not even close so I'll probably just avoid that. Me and Gr.4 cars are not getting along at the moment.

Race A is fun and I entered one but totally fluffed the first lap. Came last. Got off the line from P5 okay, perhaps too well, as I did not account for that in my braking and punted the guy in front at T1. The RA272 takes a long time to brake. Sorry guy in front. This one gave me 5 seconds of penalties. Deserved. I also had some off track moments after that shaky start dropping me to the back. One thing to note is that when the game auto brakes you for the application of penalties be ready for it! In the RA272 it caused me to spin out. Even more loss of time. All in all a terrible, horrible, no good, very bad lap. I should move to Australia... :banghead:

Not sure what that did to my SR as the rest was fine after that....

I'm going to race A more. Hopefully, there will be less of a wide field. My race had A+ to B drivers in it with a bunch that were obviously good but had no QT.

Currently I feel like an imposter in DR B. Though I think that might drop back to DR C soon if I don't get some results in race B this week; as it's on the edge. I'm just not keeping pace with the B crowd. Or I have demential and I forgot how to drive. Probably the later... Now what was I saying?
Give Race B another chance. At first i was terrible on this track (problably still am) but the more miles i drove on it, the better i became. At first my QT time was somewhere around 1:34.9xx (ore something like that) but after a couple of hours driving i've managed to get to 1:32.2xx. Also the racing went from terribly bad to quite decent i must say. The track in general is a iconic one, and without a Gr.3 race it is a long week (at least in my opinion). Just give it another go, i'm sure you'll get better day by day.
 
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Ok, I tried the no-stop in the 86 and finished dead last with no fuel left. How did you do so well? What am I missing? I short shifted mostly on FM1 and was molasses slow.

Hmmm, I’ve won three from three top splits by no-stopping the 86. Shifting halfway exclusively FM1. Maybe you’re not compensating for the lower speeds in your braking points and throttle on? For me, even short-shifting I gain time on a flat-out TT from T1 to the exit of T3, the esses and the double right hander near the end.

Out of interest, what’s your 86 FP lap time flat out and do you know what your/the winner’s race times were?
 
Hmmm, I’ve won three from three top splits by no-stopping the 86. Shifting halfway exclusively FM1. Maybe you’re not compensating for the lower speeds in your braking points and throttle on? For me, even short-shifting I gain time on a flat-out TT from T1 to the exit of T3, the esses and the double right hander near the end.
Yeah I agree, The TT is good for qualifying but in last weeks race at Trial Mountain I was switching between the 86 and Mustang and was fairly matched through most of the track but flew past them on the back straight excpesially with some slip stream. The only place I found the TT to be quicker and they would pull away was on the last turn out of the chicane onto the main straight.

The 86 makes all it power once it is reving out but soing so inhales the fuel but I have found when short shifting it is great on fuel.
 
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I wonder if this is best ever Race A. The Honda F1 is so much fun! I'm C/S rated and the experience is quite pleasant. Most people are crashing because of skill issue rather than intentionally, so it makes for quite a pleasant experience. I am someone who always preferred Gr3 races rather than street car races but last week's Carrera at Grand Valley and now this week's Race A has been most fun out of all 3 race choices for me.
Yeah should be a fun race, I am going to do a few races in Daily A too today, I managed to fluke a 1.54.5 lap after only like 15 min of practice yesterday. Normally I don't do that much of dailies, mostly just doing the GTWS races, atm only Nations Cup though. Just didn't have the energy yesterday to do any racing, after an intense 1 hr of time trial 😅
 
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I gave a quick and unprepared try to Race A

The car is beautiful from the point of view of looks, memories and driving. Although I think I'm taking it to its limit more or less like this

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My race ended up quite soon....
Starting in the second half of the pack, the guy in front of me did not floor it at green light and to avoid him I spun. Good job :cheers:

Anyway I enjoyed the race. I hope I'll have sometime this week to race it again.
 
Hmmm, I’ve won three from three top splits by no-stopping the 86. Shifting halfway exclusively FM1. Maybe you’re not compensating for the lower speeds in your braking points and throttle on? For me, even short-shifting I gain time on a flat-out TT from T1 to the exit of T3, the esses and the double right hander near the end.

Out of interest, what’s your 86 FP lap time flat out and do you know what your/the winner’s race times were?
My quali time in the 86 is about the same as my Audi, which for now is at 2:06.xx with lots of room for improvement. In the race I was doing between 2:10 and 2:12 on RH, while the fastest lap someone did was around 2:05.xx, although I don’t have a replay to know what the winning time was.

It was the only person to do the no-stop, which may be a product of my lower split A lobby. I started Using 10 and only went backwards in the 86 from the very beginning. I had one spin out, which I know can’t happen in a no-stopper, but I still finished 48 seconds off first place which is just terrible.

I watched Tidgney’s video and he fuel-saved one-stop in the Ferrari at a much better pace, so clearly I’m the problem here, but this race felt like I was going in slow motion. Any advice would be great, until may just have to go all out on mediums to be competitive.
 
My quali time in the 86 is about the same as my Audi, which for now is at 2:06.xx with lots of room for improvement. In the race I was doing between 2:10 and 2:12 on RH, while the fastest lap someone did was around 2:05.xx, although I don’t have a replay to know what the winning time was.

It was the only person to do the no-stop, which may be a product of my lower split A lobby. I started Using 10 and only went backwards in the 86 from the very beginning. I had one spin out, which I know can’t happen in a no-stopper, but I still finished 48 seconds off first place which is just terrible.

I watched Tidgney’s video and he fuel-saved one-stop in the Ferrari at a much better pace, so clearly I’m the problem here, but this race felt like I was going in slow motion. Any advice would be great, until may just have to go all out on mediums to be competitive.
Ok, I’ve no-stopped the Jag and the Cayman as well. Both for p2. I haven’t yet been beaten by a one-stopper. My lap times in the 86 and the Jag in-race are in the 2:08s (a handful of 2:07s as well).

I’m not sure what will help so I’ll just describe my lap in the 86;

Braking for T1 halfway along the final section of chain link fence, take it in 2nd and then brake for T2 at the end of the white on the inside. 1st to rotate and then 2nd to exit. Change up to 3rd at halfway to full bar then 4th as you turn in to turn 3.

Small lift to stay wide for turn 4 brake just after the black signs on the left. Hit that apex in 3rd and full throttle out, you might need to grab 2nd briefly to rotate.

Change at the bar halfway mark to 4th and 5th down the hill. Brake just before the grey on the left ends. Trail brake and shift down to 3rd, lift and aim at the back of the orange sausage. Once you know you’re hitting the apex, full throttle out to the exit kerb. 4th gear up the hill. Brake lightly about 1/4 along the right kerb, hold 4th and once you’re pointing at the apex of the first left hander, full throttle all the way through. You’ll grab 5th about the second apex.

Up through the gears to 6th changing halfway approaching BBB. Brake at the light post before the end of the wall, cut right onto the white stuff and take it in 3rd. You can power down very early.

Flat from here to the double right, again changing at halfway.

For the double right, brake lightly just after the signal box on the left, down to 4th and coast/balance the throttle to rotate. Brake very lightly again just befor you pass the end of the outside kerb between them and use the cobbles inside the second right. Then flat foot and up to 5th until the final corner. Brake at about 125 (I think), grab 4th, and try and get your right wheels on the red and white kerb at the apex. You can power down very early again and run all the way to the line.

In- race, don’t get sucked into a battle with the one-stoppers, it just slows you down. Let them go and burn all their fuel, you can use their slipstream for a while to save more fuel.

I don’t know if any of this helps. I might try and post a video of a race lap to show you how it’s working.
 
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I was just in a race with @NevilleNobody and I started pole, only to get killed by P2 at T3. He didn't even bother to see if I was there, just drifted into me and took us both out. I ran from the back yet again. These last two weeks have me running at the back of A lobbies and all I'm "learning" from the back of the good lobbies is how to be a punching bag. I don't dare fight back because I'm apparently losing SR hand over fist.
Yeah Race A is fun but still the loss of SR is concerning given how careful I am being. I never hit anyone on purpose, I cause maybe 1 in 4 incidents of contact with other cars yet I am SR B and risking a DR reset. Ridiculous, really is.

Race A is ok, the car is really weird to drive, the way it crabs mid corner is really disconcerting and again the brakes, the lift oversteer is chronic. But it's kinda fun. Ran a low 56 in qualy which is ok I guess.
 
I wonder if this is best ever Race A. The Honda F1 is so much fun! I'm C/S rated and the experience is quite pleasant. Most people are crashing because of skill issue rather than intentionally, so it makes for quite a pleasant experience. I am someone who always preferred Gr3 races rather than street car races but last week's Carrera at Grand Valley and now this week's Race A has been most fun out of all 3 race choices for me.
In terms of participation, it's definitely the best of the F1 races we've had. I hate that all the F1 Dailies have been Race A though. Why are they so opposed to letting us drive these things for more than 10 minutes at a time? Can we get at least 1 Race C with them to properly stretch their legs? The MP4/4 or F1500T-A around Spa for Race C would be a blast instead of yet ANOTHER SF race at the same track in the championship events...
All I can can say is that this Race A at Monza is smokin’!!
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These cars always reminded me of cigars as a kid. My brother and I called them “cigar cars.” I don’t know if that was a thing. Anyway, that livery looks too much like a dog turd, so I went with a cigarette instead. Marlboro would be the obvious choice, but I went less mainstream.
I actually had this same exact thought. It looks even more like a cigar with the engine covered up.
Did my first race this week at Interlagos, with minimal Q laps. Started P6, ended P5, should have finished P4. This is already showing signs of being a much more enjoyable race for me this week, compared to my disaster of a week last week.

Right now I'm using the V12 Vantage, and I really like it. It seems pretty fast, and it can sure hold the track. Unless, of course, I find that piece of grass at T10,I mentioned in my last post:
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But I'm sure I'll get the hang of it.
I used to have the exact same problem with that corner too. That entire section is so annoyingly tight that I was trying to make my entry as wide as possible and ended up driving onto the grass when braking.
 
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Ok, I’ve no-stopped the Jag and the Cayman as well. Both for p2. I haven’t yet been beaten by a one-stopper. My lap times in the 86 and the Jag in-race are in the 2:08s (a handful of 2:07s as well).

I’m not sure what will help so I’ll just describe my lap in the 86;

Braking for T1 halfway along the final section of chain link fence, take it in 2nd and then brake for T2 at the end of the white on the inside. 1st to rotate and then 2nd to exit. Change up to 3rd at halfway to full bar then 4th as you turn in to turn 3.

Small lift to stay wide for turn 4 brake just after the black signs on the left. Hit that apex in 3rd and full throttle out, you might need to grab 2nd briefly to rotate.

Change at the bar halfway mark to 4th and 5th down the hill. Brake just before the grey on the left ends. Trail brake and shift down to 3rd, lift and aim at the back of the orange sausage. Once you know you’re hitting the apex, full throttle out to the exit kerb. 4th gear up the hill. Brake lightly about 1/4 along the right kerb, hold 4th and once you’re pointing at the apex of the first left hander, full throttle all the way through. You’ll grab 5th about the second apex.

Up through the gears to 6th changing halfway approaching BBB. Brake at the light post before the end of the wall, cut right onto the white stuff and take it in 3rd. You can power down very early.

Flat from here to the double right, again changing at halfway.

For the double right, brake lightly just after the signal box on the left, down to 4th and coast/balance the throttle to rotate. Brake very lightly again just befor you pass the end of the outside kerb between them and use the cobbles inside the second right. Then flat foot and up to 5th until the final corner. Brake at about 125 (I think), grab 4th, and try and get your right wheels on the red and white kerb at the apex. You can power down very early again and run all the way to the line.

In- race, don’t get sucked into a battle with the one-stoppers, it just slows you down. Let them go and burn all their fuel, you can use their slipstream for a while to save more fuel.

I don’t know if any of this helps. I might try and post a video of a race lap to show you how it’s working.
Thanks for this. I finally got it to work for me, and I’m running it pretty much like you describe. I also ran the Ferrari and am tempted to do the Cayman as well. This morning. Was finishing in the top 5, with one podium, so I’m getting it sorted out. More people are running no-stoppers now, but in random cars so there’s an interesting mix. I wonder how the Swift will do?
Yeah Race A is fun but still the loss of SR is concerning given how careful I am being. I never hit anyone on purpose, I cause maybe 1 in 4 incidents of contact with other cars yet I am SR B and risking a DR reset. Ridiculous, really is.

Race A is ok, the car is really weird to drive, the way it crabs mid corner is really disconcerting and again the brakes, the lift oversteer is chronic. But it's kinda fun. Ran a low 56 in qualy which is ok I guess.
Same! It’s fun but I can’t do too much of it because I’m losing so much SR just for being in the way. It’s really aggravating, actually. I guess this is an experiment, but boy it sucks. There’s no way you should have to worry about a reset doing a Race A.

PD needs to figure out it’s penalty system and penalize the right people because, like you, I’m trying to avoid all contact and I’m still losing SR to other people. It takes the fun right out of it. Is it possible that they penalize your SR but don’t let you build it back up? It certainly feels like it.
 
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Thanks for this. I finally got it to work for me, and I’m running it pretty much like you describe. I also ran the Ferrari and am tempted to do the Cayman as well. This morning. Was finishing in the top 5, with one podium, so I’m getting it sorted out. More people are running no-stoppers now, but in random cars so there’s an interesting mix. I wonder how the Swift will do?

Same! It’s fun but I can’t do too much of it because I’m losing so much SR just for being in the way. It’s really aggravating, actually. I guess this is an experiment, but boy it sucks. There’s no way you should have to worry about a reset doing a Race A.

PD needs to figure out it’s penalty system and penalize the right people because, like you, I’m trying to avoid all contact and I’m still losing SR to other people. It takes the fun right out of it. Is it possible that they penalize your SR but don’t let you build it back up? It certainly feels like it.
I dont get what you do. I did 10 A races and my SR is S
 
I dont get what you do. I did 10 A races and my SR is S
I think it is much harder to improve your SR than it is to lose it. In my first Race A I accidentally punted someone off track at turn 1 and I went off track at turn 4. My SR dropped from S to A. Since then I've had two more race A and three race B including two with clean race bonuses and those without the clean bonus were being knocked off track by others; yet my SR is still A. I would have expected it to be back to S by now but its is taking its time.
 
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I dont get what you do. I did 10 A races and my SR is S
Other than one accidental punt on my part, in six or more races I’ve only gotten clobbered, shoved off the track, spun around . . . you get the point. I’m not sure why I dropped to SR A so quickly because I’ve been S for a long time. Again, with no progress indicator I can’t really figure it out.
 
Other than one accidental punt on my part, in six or more races I’ve only gotten clobbered, shoved off the track, spun around . . . you get the point. I’m not sure why I dropped to SR A so quickly because I’ve been S for a long time. Again, with no progress indicator I can’t really figure it out.
I have had a few incidents, where I ran off track to avoid someone and has been hit off a few times but other than that no incidents. I drive like you, avoid other cars by braking or changing path so I have no trouble when moving up through the field.
There's a fair amount of ghosting in T1 as well, I am B/S, have they extended ghosting?
 
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Ok, I tried the no-stop in the 86 and finished dead last with no fuel left. How did you do so well? What am I missing? I short shifted mostly on FM1 and was molasses slow.
I also was able to secure a 16th place finish there. 👍

I quickly jumped into race C when I got home from work, last night. I didn't know anything about the race, but signed up in my Mustang without qualifying or practice. I do that pretty often. Just learn as I go.
I was doing decent, and needed more gas after 6 laps. I pitted for fuel, but my medium tires were still good, so no change.

When it was over, I got what I think was my first ever 1:00 penalty..... 8th-->16th.
Like I said, I jumped into the race quickly, and didn't see that the regulations called for mandatory hard tires. :dunce:
I literally laughed out loud at myself. :lol::lol::lol:
 
I think it is much harder to improve your SR than it is to lose it. In my first Race A I accidentally punted someone off track at turn 1 and I went off track at turn 4. My SR dropped from S to A. Since then I've had two more race A and three race B including two with clean race bonuses and those without the clean bonus were being knocked off track by others; yet my SR is still A. I would have expected it to be back to S by now but its is taking its time.
There's only 3 sectors in race A, so a clean race (absolutely clean, no track infringing.or contact what so ever) gives 15 clean sectors. I don't know how much SR points you are awarded per sector but I think it's 1..in that case you can get a maximum of 15 points back in A.
But if someone else runs into you you can still get a clean race bonus but you loose 5 SR from that contact I believe. @Sven Jurgens can tell us exactly how much.
 
There's only 3 sectors in race A, so a clean race (absolutely clean, no track infringing.or contact what so ever) gives 15 clean sectors. I don't know how much SR points you are awarded per sector but I think it's 1..in that case you can get a maximum of 15 points back in A.
But if someone else runs into you you can still get a clean race bonus but you loose 5 SR from that contact I believe. @Sven Jurgens can tell us exactly how much.
There's something I don't get from your description. I'm master of **** up sectors, but never went below S rating
 
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I don't know how much SR points you are awarded per sector but I think it's 1
I believe it's far fewer points than that.
In GT Sport, when we could refer to KudosPrime for our point totals, A races usually awarded only 3 or 4 total points for a clean race.
14-18 points was typical for the C races.

I recall one infamous A race, which I believe was at Le Mans, where the clean race SR point award was 1. :lol:
It was insane. One bad collision that cost you 3 points, would require 3 clean races just to break even.
Lots of us got SR resets that week. :ouch:
 
My quali time in the 86 is about the same as my Audi, which for now is at 2:06.xx with lots of room for improvement. In the race I was doing between 2:10 and 2:12 on RH, while the fastest lap someone did was around 2:05.xx, although I don’t have a replay to know what the winning time was.

It was the only person to do the no-stop, which may be a product of my lower split A lobby. I started Using 10 and only went backwards in the 86 from the very beginning. I had one spin out, which I know can’t happen in a no-stopper, but I still finished 48 seconds off first place which is just terrible.

I watched Tidgney’s video and he fuel-saved one-stop in the Ferrari at a much better pace, so clearly I’m the problem here, but this race felt like I was going in slow motion. Any advice would be great, until may just have to go all out on mediums to be competitive.
similar here. I took the 86 out for a no-stop and was doing 2:12s mostly. Had enough fuel left to push to 2:10 for the last three laps. Finished P10, CRB. This was my typical morning lobby of B/A/A+ where I probably wouldn't have finished any higher in a conventional race. There were drivers pitting and getting out before I got around the circuit. A couple dnfs also. I might give it a try in the evening where I usually see all b lobbies.

I think short-shifting and driving fast is a skill I don't have currently! I am also weaning myslef off automatic and I use these races, and race A to practice manual.
 
So on the SR do you lose it if you have any contact, even if it is not your fault such as this?



Then again, if I lost some SR for this move, it was well worth it! Don't you just love it when you dish out some karma by nudging a dive bomber off the track, ahem, out of the way... :D



Interestingly for that race, GT gave me a clean race bonus. Perhaps that was for cleaning up the trash. :cheers:
 
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