GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[icycls]

Took a break from racing and went out for a 30 mile bike ride this evening. Must have done me some good as I jumped on for a couple of race Bs.

He11 yeah, the best attitude adjustment!

 

[Michelin Man]

Had some pretty decent races so far in A this week. Most of the challenge comes with avoiding track limit penalties at the Bus Stop. So if you manage a penalty free race, you stand half a chance of a decent finish. Racing has been clean for the most part, bar some over-zealous driving by a few individuals. Including one last night in a TT, who was determined to block and run people off if they dared try and overtake. Karma bit back though, as they tried to run me onto the grass entering the Bus Stop, only to over-run the chicane and gather a 2s penalty in the process. Gifted me P2, and it seems like their race imploded from there as they DNF'd before the end. A case of someone been unable to match the race craft with their fast qualifying time, given they started P2 as well .

Ran the Scirocco and Megane (FF) earlier in the week, initially setting my better qualifying time with the latter. However the Scirocco feels the nicer to drive. Last night I decided to run my NSX, seeing as the recent BoP change finally gave it some competitive edge again. Very nice to drive as ever, and doesn't feel woefully slow now at least, managing two podium finishes in 2 races amongst a cohort of TT's. Managed to drop a tenth to a 1:14.3 with the NSX too, though I'd say there's more left to gain. May revisit the Scirocco or Megane, as both had more to give in terms of lap-time.

 

[NevilleNobody]

Kept an eye on my fresh air race B times and yeah ABSOLUTE best is a 6 flat. Averaging 2.06.3. Nothing like doing a 6 flat and losing time to the guy in front

 

[zjn]

Did couple of Q laps for Race A
I know the track but I have to figure out Gr4 here, I'm definetly underuse them in last and first turn.
I'm sitting in the lower 1:16, not very happy with it, but good enough to take a race in my next stint, since it's already Thu

Will leverage on your ghosts to refine the Q between races

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

@Bullwinkle, @TheNormsk, @hollowkatt - You've got some work to do. @NevilleNobody , @Leon Kowalski , @ILLEAGLE_34 - you guys are probably completely safe.

What a great race! I’m glad you encouraged me to try it! I did three or four and even got clean race bonuses, which is the last thing I expected!

I knew you'd have fun!

was hoping you’d be in the next race as well. It was reassuring to me to see you up ahead and know that your wasn’t going to have to struggle against random jerks. I prefer the jerks I already know (I kid! I kid!)

You did great, so don’t get nervous. I say that, but I’m the same way.

Yeah, the jerk you know is better than the one you don't.

Anyway, that was good fun. Now on with my day. This is better than coffee!

Awesome!

depending on how big of a lead you've got they might slipstream catch you?

In this case, they were pretty far behind. I'll keep an eye on it though.

As I learn it more and improve on it I am really liking it a lot. It is becoming one of my favorites (with the Gr.2 cars).

It really is a fun track, because of fast cars with sticky tires, and it's a real race track that has stood the test of time.

 

[TheNormsk]

@Bullwinkle, @TheNormsk, @hollowkatt - You've got some work to do. @NevilleNobody , @Leon Kowalski , @ILLEAGLE_34 - you guys are probably completely safe.
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I knew you could do it. But damn, now I'm going to have to unfriend you!

 

[TechnoIsLove]

I'm quite sure you'll beat it. There's still a lot of improvement to be had (in fact, I still feel like I'm not nearly able to drive these high downforce cars the way I should, so the improvements came surprisingly and in bunches).

Ever heard of hybrid laps? 🤣

I'm much faster in sectors 1 & 3 using the wheel but for some weird reason, I'm faster on controller in sector 2 🫣 on paper, that section should suit wheel more since it's more technical and flowing corners... Go figure!

Either way am in the 2:03s now and once I get used to full wheel laps, i know I can improve 🤣 was .3 faster half way through a lap but ran out of time and the race started, of course it happens to me 🤪

 

[NevilleNobody]

Nebu is borderline trolling

 

[KosmoKazi]

Strange bug today daily b.
The tc assist turn on by itself and i couldnt accelerate out of the corners. I never run drive assist and i cant turn it on because i race no HUD. Thats wierd….
Fuu that cost me my rating, from full a tu near b and my s rank is gone 🤬

Others may have already answered but it's a crap bug / bad programming issue in the game: if you don't do any FP/warmup prior to the matching and grid, the game will default to TCS 3 at the start of your race... despite your own personal assists setting... it catches me out from time to time as well, but I typically make it a habit to scroll through to confirm TCS 0 before my races now (or TCS 1 if a grid start...).

Race B is a riot, I love it and only wish it was Race C so it was longer. That said, I did have to do some uncharacteristic vigilante work in a few races, only to a repeat offender that I gave multiple chances to prove wasn't dirty by nature. But: dive-bombing into Les Combes, using my door as your 'grip hack' to make the turn, and then hip checking your way out from there is not racing. And I'm not tolerating it any more in these races. The Alt is fully engaged and I will sacrifice my own DR/SR to make sure that people don't benefit from that 'move' the rest of the week.

We can all get a nice slipstream up Raidillon and along Kemmel, and we can all brake hard into Les Combes, but if you think this is NASCAR and you are entitled to hip check your way past someone there, you're wrong and you are getting punted.

Ditto for the gamers that think running someone wide on the exit of the bus stop chicane is racing. No, if you go side by side there, you both have claim to the track and running the other guy off onto the slippery exit surface isn't fair or clean. You're getting punted at La Source if I can get back to you by that turn.

 

[RacingGrandpa]

So, I threw away my qualifying anxiety and ran a race.
I did two passes, and felt clean in both. Both where high risk manoeuvres but in a 4 lap race you take what you can get.

Then I went and watched the replay. And now I feel like the guy asking "Are we the baddies?"

The first pass (I drive in bumper mode and definitely felt I had half a car overlap) felt to me as if he turned in on me.
But judged by his actions I think he felt wronged.
He did miss though.

The second one I felt squeaky clean, I gave him space.

But I am willing to change my mind.
What do you think? Was it on me?

 

[RacinLei]

Others may have already answered but it's a crap bug / bad programming issue in the game: if you don't do any FP/warmup prior to the matching and grid, the game will default to TCS 3 at the start of your race... despite your own personal assists setting... it catches me out from time to time as well, but I typically make it a habit to scroll through to confirm TCS 0 before my races now (or TCS 1 if a grid start...).

Race B is a riot, I love it and only wish it was Race C so it was longer. That said, I did have to do some uncharacteristic vigilante work in a few races, only to a repeat offender that I gave multiple chances to prove wasn't dirty by nature. But: dive-bombing into Les Combes, using my door as your 'grip hack' to make the turn, and then hip checking your way out from there is not racing. And I'm not tolerating it any more in these races. The Alt is fully engaged and I will sacrifice my own DR/SR to make sure that people don't benefit from that 'move' the rest of the week.

We can all get a nice slipstream up Raidillon and along Kemmel, and we can all brake hard into Les Combes, but if you think this is NASCAR and you are entitled to hip check your way past someone there, you're wrong and you are getting punted.

Ditto for the gamers that think running someone wide on the exit of the bus stop chicane is racing. No, if you go side by side there, you both have claim to the track and running the other guy off onto the slippery exit surface isn't fair or clean. You're getting punted at La Source if I can get back to you by that turn.

yeah @GrumpyOldMan wrote me how it works but thx 😉

@RacingGrandpa

Naa, he open the door you took it. All good 👍🏻

 

[Tommy_D]

So, I threw away my qualifying anxiety and ran a race.
I did two passes, and felt clean in both. Both where high risk manoeuvres but in a 4 lap race you take what you can get.

Then I went and watched the replay. And now I feel like the guy asking "Are we the baddies?"

The first pass (I drive in bumper mode and definitely felt I had half a car overlap) felt to me as if he turned in on me.
But judged by his actions I think he felt wronged.
He did miss though.

The second one I felt squeaky clean, I gave him space.

But I am willing to change my mind.
What do you think? Was it on me?

All your passes looked clean to me. You were clearly the faster driver and went in to gaps that were open. The first car (green) should have started to accelerate out of that turn when you two bumped in to eachother but instead he/she got scared from your contact and froze. The second pass was all good and the other driver was very respectful to you by not drifting wide on the exit. They, unfortunately, just got on the gas too hard and spun out.

Edit: I'm not sure if the Green driver was intentionally trying to ram in to you on the chicane or not. They clearly missed their braking marker and maybe that was because they were trying to pass the guy in front of them on the brakes but got caught in dirty air. I dont know.

 

[NevilleNobody]

So, I threw away my qualifying anxiety and ran a race.
I did two passes, and felt clean in both. Both where high risk manoeuvres but in a 4 lap race you take what you can get.

Then I went and watched the replay. And now I feel like the guy asking "Are we the baddies?"

The first pass (I drive in bumper mode and definitely felt I had half a car overlap) felt to me as if he turned in on me.
But judged by his actions I think he felt wronged.
He did miss though.

The second one I felt squeaky clean, I gave him space.

But I am willing to change my mind.
What do you think? Was it on me?

1st one is 100% perfect. You made the apex nice and clean, he pinched you too tight hence the contact. I have zero issue, nice pass.

Second one you were very lucky. You did nothing wrong except you could have left a few more MM for him but that's OK. I say lucky because if he didn't lose it he'd have run you wide through the next right hander. Passing on the outside there is a leap of faith, asking for contact, i'd have waited and taken him into the chicane.

You need to watch the body language of the cars, if it looks like a juddering controller user I get edgy going on the outside as they tend to need to swing further out to make their apex than wheel users who inherently have more turn in.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

Either way am in the 2:03s now and once I get used to full wheel laps, i know I can improve 🤣 was .3 faster half way through a lap but ran out of time and the race started, of course it happens to me 🤪

Brilliant!

And you are completely safe. I'm on holiday for the rest of the week. Will probably be sitting in a whirlpool bath the whole time until sunday.

 

[Steer]

I'm not sure that the first one is clean. You were behind and knocked him wide by hitting his rear wheel two times in order to make the pass. In my book that is not OK. If I was on the receiving end of that I would have expected you to back out as the pass was not on.

I've seen worse of course, and I am not saying it was the worse move ever.

2nd one looks fine.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

So, I threw away my qualifying anxiety and ran a race.
I did two passes, and felt clean in both. Both where high risk manoeuvres but in a 4 lap race you take what you can get.

Then I went and watched the replay. And now I feel like the guy asking "Are we the baddies?"

The first pass (I drive in bumper mode and definitely felt I had half a car overlap) felt to me as if he turned in on me.
But judged by his actions I think he felt wronged.
He did miss though.

The second one I felt squeaky clean, I gave him space.

But I am willing to change my mind.
What do you think? Was it on me?

In my perception that's excellent racing. If he held his line he could have challenged you in the following left hander. The second one round the outside? Don't think that could have been done any better. Great move.👍

 

[NevilleNobody]

I'm not sure that the first one is clean. You were behind and knocked him wide by hitting his rear wheel two times in order to make the pass. In my book that is not OK. If I was on the receiving end of that I would have expected you to back out as the pass was not on.

I've seen worse of course, and I am not saying it was the worse move ever.

2nd one looks fine.

Hard disagree and I am the first to call out members here if I feel they are unreasonable. He did not have overlap but was very close, it looks like the lead car saw our man as he turned in quite late. Our man made the apex, he is very tight, plenty of room for the lead car to take the wide line then have the inside for the next left but he tried to take the racing line with a car well and truly there.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Brilliant!

And you are completely safe. I'm on holiday for the rest of the week. Will probably be sitting in a whirlpool bath the whole time until sunday.

Nice one, enjoy mate! In the meantime, know that aside from work, I will be busting my ass removing all my terrace decking, grinding off the grouting and deep cleaning the tiles before some contractor comes to apply waterproofing 😅 Apparently it's leaking into downstairs neighbor ceiling and causing damage...

The money I'm spending on pain pills and some stupid rainwater costs more than a Fanatec upgrade for GT7 and higher flow injectors for my Saab, combined!

Hope this gives you an even bigger smile as your nuts dip into the warm, hot tub water 🤣

 

[hollowkatt]

Others may have already answered but it's a crap bug / bad programming issue in the game: if you don't do any FP/warmup prior to the matching and grid, the game will default to TCS 3 at the start of your race... despite your own personal assists setting... it catches me out from time to time as well, but I typically make it a habit to scroll through to confirm TCS 0 before my races now (or TCS 1 if a grid start...).

Race B is a riot, I love it and only wish it was Race C so it was longer. That said, I did have to do some uncharacteristic vigilante work in a few races, only to a repeat offender that I gave multiple chances to prove wasn't dirty by nature. But: dive-bombing into Les Combes, using my door as your 'grip hack' to make the turn, and then hip checking your way out from there is not racing. And I'm not tolerating it any more in these races. The Alt is fully engaged and I will sacrifice my own DR/SR to make sure that people don't benefit from that 'move' the rest of the week.

We can all get a nice slipstream up Raidillon and along Kemmel, and we can all brake hard into Les Combes, but if you think this is NASCAR and you are entitled to hip check your way past someone there, you're wrong and you are getting punted.

Ditto for the gamers that think running someone wide on the exit of the bus stop chicane is racing. No, if you go side by side there, you both have claim to the track and running the other guy off onto the slippery exit surface isn't fair or clean. You're getting punted at La Source if I can get back to you by that turn.

Yeah if B was C and was say 10 laps and Med/Soft were required I think it might be one of the best all time dailies PD has ever done. As it is B is definitely my favorite daily they've done since the last time we were at Road Atlanta.

I'm not sure that the first one is clean. You were behind and knocked him wide by hitting his rear wheel two times in order to make the pass. In my book that is not OK. If I was on the receiving end of that I would have expected you to back out as the pass was not on.

I've seen worse of course, and I am not saying it was the worse move ever.

2nd one looks fine.

Did we watch the same replay?
Racing Grandpa took an inside line when the green car went wide into the corner, likely spooked by Grandpa being on their inside already. Grandpa then hugged the inside line as tight as they could, two wheels on or near the grass even and the green car drifted down on him.

In my opinion that's all greens fault all the time. He left the door open and grandpa walked right in, then mid corner green decides to tighten their line but surprise there's a car there now. Honestly I think that was a slick move from grandpa and green lacked the race craft to keep it clean there. I also think green was going for the dive bomb into the chicane but I'm paranoid like that lol

 

[Leon Kowalski]

The money I'm spending on pain pills and some stupid rainwater costs more than a Fanatec upgrade for GT7 and higher flow injectors for my Saab, combined!

Hmm, I don't know if you've got your priorities right...🤣

Err, no idea if that joke comes across the right way...😆

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

In my perception that's excellent racing.

That was my first thought.

I'm not sure that the first one is clean. You were behind and knocked him wide by hitting his rear wheel two times in order to make the pass. In my book that is not OK. If I was on the receiving end of that I would have expected you to back out as the pass was not on.

I've seen worse of course, and I am not saying it was the worse move ever.

Then I read this and agreed.

Hard disagree and I am the first to call out members here if I feel they are unreasonable. He did not have overlap but was very close, it looks like the lead car saw our man as he turned in quite late. Our man made the apex, he is very tight, plenty of room for the lead car to take the wide line then have the inside for the next left but he tried to take the racing line with a car well and truly there.

Then I read this and I'm not so sure.

 

[hollowkatt]

That was my first thought.

Then I read this and agreed.

Then I read this and I'm not so sure.

this just in grumpyoldman is easily influenced by the last thing he reads:
hey grumpy slow down some ur too fast for me

 

[RacingGrandpa]

I'm not sure that the first one is clean. You were behind and knocked him wide by hitting his rear wheel two times in order to make the pass. In my book that is not OK. If I was on the receiving end of that I would have expected you to back out as the pass was not on.

I've seen worse of course, and I am not saying it was the worse move ever.

2nd one looks fine.

I don't mind taking the blame if that was what had happened. But I was at least up to his rear wheel when he turned in

He did the exact same pass on me the lap before, and I gave him possible too much room so I didn't get to pass again in the left handed.

I realise it wasn't a clean overtake, but I am not going to take the sole blame, he clearly turns into me and that's why we collide. Then yes, I do defend so I don't get pushed off.

 

[sturk0167]

Yeah. I've been super frustrated for some reason at the actual races this week and those two races were the absolute worst. I get that there is going to be some bumping in Daily A, but sometimes people get downright rude about things.

This morning, there was an A+ rated guy with 800+ races going around CRASHING PEOPLE because he didn't like the way they were racing with other people. I ended up watching the replays for the incidents, two guys were battling through the chicane and one went wide through the grass on the right side and came back on track to bang into the guy he was racing, with no one crashing. This other yahoo for some reason thought it was his responsibility to take the guy out that went wide through the grass.



in the previous race, he decided to get payback for some perceived slight against him. Takes out the dude in the chicane in a total pack of 5 cars. Take a wild guess on who was in that pack and who didn't make it out alive...


I'm tired of this race. Like, tears of frustration mad because I love the short version of Watkins Glen.

The same clown was at Watkins Glen yesterday, too.
Here he is, making himself look like an idiot on the final lap:



His reason for the punt attempt?
He said the Mustang, which was in 2nd place for the whole race, had been "taking up the whole track and driving too slowly to let anyone else catch up to the leader".
You heard that right. The dude that was beating him needed to be punted for being too slow.

After he crashed, he became unhinged, spamming the comments with a bizarre rant.

 

[Fezzik]

I'm not sure that the first one is clean. You were behind and knocked him wide by hitting his rear wheel two times in order to make the pass. In my book that is not OK. If I was on the receiving end of that I would have expected you to back out as the pass was not on.

I've seen worse of course, and I am not saying it was the worse move ever.

2nd one looks fine.

Kinda agree on the first one. There was an initial gap, but no overlap as the contact was with the lead car's rear wheels. Gramps could've backed out. Looked like a perfectly legitimate line the green car took. If this was real life I think the stewards would want a word, or your pit wall would tell you to give the place back. Yes they could've left more room and gone side-by-side (if they saw the move coming) but they had clear track position.

Just my 5 pence. I'm quite conservative when making moves (until the red mist descends) so probably wouldn't have tried it there, whilst others more assertive would have no issue.

 

[Tommy_D]

The same clown was at Watkins Glen yesterday, too.
Here he is, making himself look like an idiot on the final lap:



His reason for the punt attempt?
He said the Mustang, which was in 2nd place for the whole race, had been "taking up the whole track and driving too slowly to let anyone else catch up to the leader".

You mean the leader who was only a car length ahead of P2? Sounds like P2 was definitely driving way too slow if there was such a large gap between him and P1.

 

[Leon Kowalski]

The same clown was at Watkins Glen yesterday, too.
Here he is, making himself look like an idiot on the final lap:



His reason for the punt attempt?
He said the Mustang, which was in 2nd place for the whole race, had been "taking up the whole track and driving too slowly to let anyone else catch up to the leader".
You heard that right. The dude that was beating him needed to be punted for being too slow.

After he crashed, he became unhinged, spamming the comments with a bizarre rant.

Are you planning on giving him the vigilante treatment the next time you meet him in a race?

 

[MCL1974]

So, I threw away my qualifying anxiety and ran a race.
I did two passes, and felt clean in both. Both where high risk manoeuvres but in a 4 lap race you take what you can get.

Then I went and watched the replay. And now I feel like the guy asking "Are we the baddies?"

The first pass (I drive in bumper mode and definitely felt I had half a car overlap) felt to me as if he turned in on me.
But judged by his actions I think he felt wronged.
He did miss though.

The second one I felt squeaky clean, I gave him space.

But I am willing to change my mind.
What do you think? Was it on me?

Think everyone here who has ever been on track with you knows that you are a fair and clean racer. There was maybe a bit of contact in the first one but imo you did not do much wrong. just racing incident at its worst, and there was a bit of space. Maybe even he should have been more aware that you were on his inside and he left it open? Second one was just good, no issue.

But always good to review your actions, makes you a better and cleaner races, and shows that you care about that.

 

[Gates]

The same clown was at Watkins Glen yesterday, too.
Here he is, making himself look like an idiot on the final lap:



His reason for the punt attempt?
He said the Mustang, which was in 2nd place for the whole race, had been "taking up the whole track and driving too slowly to let anyone else catch up to the leader".
You heard that right. The dude that was beating him needed to be punted for being too slow.

After he crashed, he became unhinged, spamming the comments with a bizarre rant.

I don't understand people sometimes. I will sometimes drive overly cautious just try and avoid people and then you have this yahoo... Plenty of space for drafting and passing here, if he couldn't do that, than it say's a lot about his skills. Or the guy in second just had godly defensive skills 🙃

I don't have a "must crash this loser" list yet, but this guy might be the first on it.

 

[sturk0167]

Are you planning on giving him the vigilante treatment the next time you meet him in a race?

I am definitely considering heading to race A today for a bit of trolling.