GT7 Daily Race Discussion
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- Grand_Slammin
I drove both of them for a whole and they both felt kinda . . . ponderous? Like they only considered going faster but didn’t really care either way. They have good top speed though, which makes them a good challenge for the Supra in a straight line. I was in a race won by an A+ driver in the newer Fort GT, so don’t count that out either, although I haven’t tried it.Yea, I feel ya man... I am in the same situation. I don't have the Pro pedals yet, but I feel like I am having to relearn how to drive and it seems like it's taking me more time than others as I still feel my pace is off by like .500" per lap. And, if nothing else, I am also feeling like I am less consistent as well. I feel like it's because I am having a hard time finding that ratio of heavy braking, turning in, and releasing at the right brake pressure per turn in angle (so to speak). Because of that I am struggling to find the proper braking and turn in points and work consistently.
I forgot to mention before I also upped the FFB setting within the game itself, which seemed to help more than on the wheel. Anyway, if you have any epiphanies, please share!
So I gave each one its fair shake at some laps (maybe 8-10 each) and as you can see there is a definite clear winner!
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I honestly don't know what the difference is between them. The Race version felt like the brakes were a smidge better, but it could've been placebo. One clear cut difference is the redline and gearing.
The redline on the Test version is like 6500 whereas the race version is 7000. But, you can over rev the Test version to 7000 (and a bit beyond) so I don't know what difference it makes.
The gearing is a little more obvious, but seems just as moot. In the Test version I was having to hit 6th gear coming out of the esses (after T1) whereas the Race version I could hold 5th all the way to the bus stop. But again, didn't seem to matter.
So there you go... find which one has a cooler livery and run with it.
ETA - Almost totally forgot, I did a race with each from the back and the tire wear wasn't nearly as bad as I thought it would be. And, again, that was from the back so there was fighting and dirty air involved. Better than the Supra, IMO. The cars are a bit understeery so obviously when the LF tire starts to die you need to be ready for it, but all the cars in this game are understeery.
I’m also still trying to figure out the new physics. It really clicked for me at Dragon Trail last week and then again on Monday this week at Watkins Glen, but today I can’t touch yesterday’s times at all. I’m trying all kinds of different things like braking earlier and coasting, braking later and letting the car rotate as I let off the brakes (as much trail braking as we can get now I guess), and all kinds of different approaches to shifting. I blew a LOT of time today trying to figure out what I was doing yesterday that was so successful, and came to no conclusions. I think maybe I’ll just go back to trying to drive like a bat out of hell and not overthink it too much!
I think maybe it’s a combination of the new physics requiring a new driving style, and the tires giving out for some people at different rates based on how they’re adjusting to the new update. It looks like the A lobbies I was in today were all fairly tight, so maybe everyone is starting to adjust.
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- Western Sahara
Here's the fastest time trials per car so far for race c (gr. 3). Still early on, but looks like there's slightly less cars in the top compared to pre patch/bop changes, but it's still close between the ones that are there.
| Rank | Car | Time | Country | Nickname | DR | SR |
1 | Toyota GR Supra | 104133 | FR | R8G_TSUTSU | 7 | 6 |
2 | Renault R.S.01 | 104264 | US | Odd_Taxi | 1 | 4 |
6 | Nissan GT-R Nismo 18 | 104421 | FR | M. Hafidi | 7 | 6 |
20 | BMW M6 Endurance | 104743 | FR | BSCOMP+ Aphe | 7 | 6 |
50 | BMW M6 Sprint | 104940 | AE | R. Azzam | 6 | 6 |
60 | Peugeuot RCZ | 105027 | HU | M. Mihalidesz | 6 | 6 |
63 | Lexus RC F | 105042 | JP | Kawakana | 7 | 6 |
95 | Mclaren 650s | 105174 | ES | Brea el de TDG | 6 | 6 |
117 | Hyundai Genesis X | 105240 | IT | G. Mangano | 7 | 6 |
135 | Audi R8 LMS Evo | 105292 | JP | きあい | 6 | 6 |
257 | Porsche 911 RSR | 105557 | GB | B. Tarrant | 6 | 6 |
306 | Lambo Huracan | 105631 | AR | F. Diaz | 6 | 6 |
397 | Merc AMG SLS | 105762 | US | Stinky | 6 | 6 |
436 | Mazda RX Vision | 105799 | JP | chalky jet | 6 | 6 |
507 | Merc AMG | 105866 | JP | sgt-dtm-5296 | 6 | 6 |
577 | Alfa Romeo 4C | 105930 | PE | Rodrinki | 6 | 6 |
645 | Chevrolet Corvette C7 | 105971 | JP | リン | 6 | 6 |
819 | Ferrari 458 | 106090 | GB | TDS-TheStaag42_ | 4 | 6 |
850 | Dodge Viper SRT | 106109 | GT | VMotors_Ardaetz | 6 | 6 |
1547 | Honda NSX | 106456 | JP | PRINCE RACING | 5 | 6 |
1559 | Ford GT LM | 106463 | PT | GOD_Migas | 4 | 6 |
1576 | Ford GT | 106469 | FR | Topolinho | 5 | 6 |
1840 | Hyundai Genesis | 106567 | AR | 9z DUDU | 6 | 6 |
1882 | Subaru BRZ | 106580 | US | HaKai! | 1 | 5 |
2245 | Mitsubishi Lancer | 106700 | JP | ミストラル | 7 | 6 |
2286 | Mazda RX Vision Stealth | 106710 | US | k0okyflUKEy | 4 | 6 |
2350 | Audi R8 LMS | 106731 | US | DB420 | 4 | 6 |
2639 | VW Beetle | 106812 | IT | Gioker9 | 1 | 6 |
2694 | Aston Martin V12 Vantage | 106828 | US | TKnucks | 5 | 6 |
2785 | Toyota FT-1 VGT | 106850 | FI | TT.Lehto | 5 | 6 |
2936 | Ford GT LM Test Car | 106883 | US | Talon2 | 4 | 6 |
2961 | Jag F-type | 106889 | ES | Sigma | 6 | 6 |
3120 | Suzuki VGT | 106923 | IE | MountainGed | 5 | 6 |
3275 | Ford Mustang | 106963 | FI | Sulka | 4 | 6 |
3293 | Nissan GT-R NISMO 13 | 106967 | JP | HIDEX | 6 | 6 |
3345 | Nissan GT-R GT500 | 106981 | AU | Shwubman | 5 | 6 |
3435 | Mazda Atenza | 107004 | FR | F-Krok | 5 | 6 |
3673 | BMW Z4 | 107068 | BR | OCR_LUCIANO_LUCK | 5 | 6 |
4681 | Toyota Supra GT500 | 107288 | CA | G$ | 5 | 4 |
5703 | McLaren F1 GTR | 107479 | AU | Anthony | 6 | 6 |
5732 | Peugeot VGT | 107485 | US | BIF GRIFFIN | 4 | 6 |
6176 | BMW M3 GT | 107561 | JP | Maranello＿Runa | 6 | 6 |
6396 | Lexus RC F Prototype | 107601 | DE | Friday135 | 4 | 4 |
6569 | Subaru WRX | 107628 | ZA | TNR_Straydemon | 4 | 6 |
6790 | Citroen GT | 107663 | US | Aalmeida71 | 5 | 6 |
6793 | Nissan Skyline Super Silhouette | 107664 | FR | TURBO ****BOX | 4 | 6 |
7061 | Aston Martin DBR9 | 107708 | DE | EGT_Frudo79 | 5 | 6 |
11401 | Unknown | 108366 | JP | ama_00 | 2 | 6 |
22683 | VW GTI VGT | 110277 | AU | Kem | 2 | 6 |
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@skidmark69 how did you make this list? I'm always trying to find the fastest time for certain cars but it is so tedious going through the leaderboard.
I tried a Race C in the Corvette and got thumped by a mostly A+ lobby, started P14 and finished P11 due to others misfortune. I could only managed a 1:47 lap, I've moved on to the M6 and am already a couple tenths faster.
I tried a Race C in the Corvette and got thumped by a mostly A+ lobby, started P14 and finished P11 due to others misfortune. I could only managed a 1:47 lap, I've moved on to the M6 and am already a couple tenths faster.
hollowkatt
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Decided to give the Nissan '18 a go for Race C. I love the way it handles, accelerates (don't need TC at all whereas Supra I needed 1 or 2), and it's a dream. Unfortunately PD has decided my internet connection isn't good enough. Constant errors that boot me out of qualifying or the race.
meh.
meh.
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- Western Sahara
Results are on the official website https://www.gran-turismo.com/gb/gt7/sportmode/event/5423
The only problem is the results table is dynamically generated page by page using JavaScript and they don't display all of the information they have (such as car used, nationality, PSN, time set) so I use a python script and a package called selenium to automatically go through every page and capture the data and save it. It's pretty simple if you know how to code, but yeah, beats me why PD dont let people filter the leaderboard by car in-game.
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- Ulricehamn
I think the ones suffering the most are the ones that used to chunk in the car at the corners. The new physics rewards smooth driving.
If you copy the current BOP numbers from the screen where you join the TT you can go to the track and do Time trials there. At the bottom of the settings page there's a thing called "events settings" and if you set tyre wear and fuel consumption and the off track grip reduction to real you should be at the same as in race.
I use it to test different cars, this week I have used tyre wear 24 so I got a whole race worth of wear in 3 laps
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- jdeviant1983
Much appreciated, I'd like to try different cars but with limited time to play i don't want to waste it to find out which ones aren't competitive.
This is very helpful mate!
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- Fezzik-GT
- Fezzik1983
I found it weird because I’m usually the complete opposite at B level - qualify badly and make progress in the race. Here I’m going backwards. Maybe with the new physics the car is just a lot slower with full fuel, but the other drivers didn’t seem to have issues.
Didn’t help that the Supras were flying up to my bumper in sector 1 and bombing me at the chicane. I wish I knew how to drive that thing.
- 1,030
- Italy
I can't help you with that, and I'm not a doctor. I just wanted to tell you not to give too much weight to this event that may have come for a thousand different and completely accidental reasons.
Next time you get out on the track just think about having fun, going fast and avoiding the tug of war and you will see that everything will be fine
- 1,030
- Italy
I did a couple of RaceBs yesterday.
After seeing the Atenza at the top of the charts I tried it but didn't like it at all, and went back to my Cetilar Racing Ferrari. It's probably not the best car of the bunch, but it seems to me that with the latest physics changes it's more performant than before.
In the first race I started sixth and finished eighth, after being tenth due to an auto-crash with four other cars in Turn 3. I also enjoyed the race because of a 4-lap battle with a Swedish Atenza with little overtaking but many attempts and great respect for each other's position on both sides.
By the way this race made me move from SR S to SR A. I didn't understand if it was because of the incident I described (the only touch and the only off track in the whole race, although quite complex given the number of cars involved) or if it was because I took a 3s penalty in the warmup for crossing the white line at pit exit
The second race was more complicated. I started 9 and finished 12, bringing SR back to S.
On this race I wanted to ask your opinion and show you a strange thing that happened, which caused a big loss of positions.
I found myself several times trying to overtake on the outside in the last chicane.
I put examples here (30s video): the first one was a bad choice on my side, there were too many cars, and I was gobbled up by the slowness of the car with which I then made contact.
The second was clean, although with the cooperation of the other driver who lifted his foot.
Question: theoretically, is this type of overtaking that can be taken in this corner, or if the other's defensive position contricts me to the outside, is it better not to even try?
This, on the other hand, is the strange thing that happened to me.
Two cars ahead of me there was a penalty to serve. I assumed that the car was going to ghost, but then being covered by the car in front of me (the red Alfa) I could not verify it.
The impression I got, even reviewing the replay, was that the car was in ghost, but remaining drawn solid.
The Alfa had some room to maneuver, I arrived later and found the car solid in time to have a reaction, but unfortunately making a mess.
In the video (30s) you see the Alfa's onboard first, then mine
After seeing the Atenza at the top of the charts I tried it but didn't like it at all, and went back to my Cetilar Racing Ferrari. It's probably not the best car of the bunch, but it seems to me that with the latest physics changes it's more performant than before.
In the first race I started sixth and finished eighth, after being tenth due to an auto-crash with four other cars in Turn 3. I also enjoyed the race because of a 4-lap battle with a Swedish Atenza with little overtaking but many attempts and great respect for each other's position on both sides.
By the way this race made me move from SR S to SR A. I didn't understand if it was because of the incident I described (the only touch and the only off track in the whole race, although quite complex given the number of cars involved) or if it was because I took a 3s penalty in the warmup for crossing the white line at pit exit
The second race was more complicated. I started 9 and finished 12, bringing SR back to S.
On this race I wanted to ask your opinion and show you a strange thing that happened, which caused a big loss of positions.
I found myself several times trying to overtake on the outside in the last chicane.
I put examples here (30s video): the first one was a bad choice on my side, there were too many cars, and I was gobbled up by the slowness of the car with which I then made contact.
The second was clean, although with the cooperation of the other driver who lifted his foot.
Question: theoretically, is this type of overtaking that can be taken in this corner, or if the other's defensive position contricts me to the outside, is it better not to even try?
This, on the other hand, is the strange thing that happened to me.
Two cars ahead of me there was a penalty to serve. I assumed that the car was going to ghost, but then being covered by the car in front of me (the red Alfa) I could not verify it.
The impression I got, even reviewing the replay, was that the car was in ghost, but remaining drawn solid.
The Alfa had some room to maneuver, I arrived later and found the car solid in time to have a reaction, but unfortunately making a mess.
In the video (30s) you see the Alfa's onboard first, then mine
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Hey, I made the list! 2,936th place in the LM II Test car... probably the only one in the game to bother with it.
That being said I did use it in three races yesterday. The first two I started P3, tried to make a move where I shouldn't have (bus stop) in a bit of desperation and the curb killed me. Second race was pretty fun, until it wasn't. Was faster than the Supra in P2 but hard to pass so some fun racing going on until I got curb glitched and spun. I swear with that bus stop, I'll hit it the same nine times in a row but the 10th the car decides to go airborne and it's all over. Quite frustrating as that second race was really fun.
Third race started on pole and just walked away. Between the guys behind fighting and getting some track limit pens, it was TT laps until the end.
If you said this was the sexiest car in the game, I wouldn't argue.
Also, this guy was fun. Name should've been BUTT HEAD. He'd already been on a rampage. A block attempt followed by pushing me off the track, followed by harassing someone else, followed by me pushing him off the track, followed by a ridiculous punt attempt that I saw coming a mile away and avoided. I love the part after T1 where he slows down thinking I am just going to drive passed and let him hit me off the track again. Homie don't play that game. And yes, he quit out right after. What a loser.
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- Grand_Slammin
Hey, I made the list! 2,936th place in the LM II Test car... probably the only one in the game to bother with it.
That being said I did use it in three races yesterday. The first two I started P3, tried to make a move where I shouldn't have (bus stop) in a bit of desperation and the curb killed me. Second race was pretty fun, until it wasn't. Was faster than the Supra in P3 but hard to pass so some fun racing going on until I got curb glitched and spun. I swear with that bus stop, I'll hit it the same nine times in a row but the 10th the car decides to go airborne and it's all over. Quite frustrating as that second race was really fun.
Third race started on pole and just walked away. Between the guys behind fighting and getting some track limit pens, it was TT laps until the end.
If you said this was the sexiest car in the game, I wouldn't argue.
Also, this guy was fun. Name should've been BUTT HEAD. He'd already been on a rampage. A block attempt followed by pushing me off the track, followed by harassing someone else, followed by me pushing him off the track, followed but a ridiculous put attempt that I saw coming a mile away and avoided. I love the part after T1 where he slows down thinking I am just going to drive passed and let him hit me off the track again. Homie don't play that game. And yes, he quit out right after. What a loser.
That never stopped being funny in any of the views! I especially like that you could see exactly where he was up ahead because of all the puffs of smoke!
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- Danger_Dan986
Hey, I made the list! 2,936th place in the LM II Test car... probably the only one in the game to bother with it.
That being said I did use it in three races yesterday. The first two I started P3, tried to make a move where I shouldn't have (bus stop) in a bit of desperation and the curb killed me. Second race was pretty fun, until it wasn't. Was faster than the Supra in P2 but hard to pass so some fun racing going on until I got curb glitched and spun. I swear with that bus stop, I'll hit it the same nine times in a row but the 10th the car decides to go airborne and it's all over. Quite frustrating as that second race was really fun.
Third race started on pole and just walked away. Between the guys behind fighting and getting some track limit pens, it was TT laps until the end.
If you said this was the sexiest car in the game, I wouldn't argue.
Also, this guy was fun. Name should've been BUTT HEAD. He'd already been on a rampage. A block attempt followed by pushing me off the track, followed by harassing someone else, followed by me pushing him off the track, followed by a ridiculous punt attempt that I saw coming a mile away and avoided. I love the part after T1 where he slows down thinking I am just going to drive passed and let him hit me off the track again. Homie don't play that game. And yes, he quit out right after. What a loser.
Brilliant that you didn't get a penalty in the end there, probably the only time in history the ridiculous penalty system has actually delivered some justice
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- Houston, TX
- TheOneDonJuan
There are no worse lobbies than the transitional A/B lobbies where it seems B ranks are trying to get into A and A are trying not to get punted back into B. Those folks are desperate and drive as such. Got bumped by so many senders yesterday and ended up spinning out at the final hairpin on Lap 2. My pace is fine in the 911 in the low 1:48s but still probably calling it a week. This track just isn't fun for me and the lack of strategy just makes it a total bore.
PD what did the American cars do to you?
PD what did the American cars do to you?
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- United States
- wheelmansteve
Ran two more C's last night. Actually got my best Q in the GT-R '18 version, (mid 1:49), but really struggled in the race, going P4 to P5. I was outdriven, fairly, so no complaints. Reverted to the Renault for race 2 and I think I did P4 to P4. I used to really dread good grid positions, but under 1.31 I can drive much more consistent times. PD, if you're paying attention at all, the RS.01 could use a rearview cam...
hollowkatt
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- 593
- United States
be not Japanese cars?
I know it's pretty popular to riff on how much overpowered the Supra or GT-R is vs the rest of the field, or the WRX/GT-R in GR.4 but this is a long and proud tradition going all the way back to the first Gran Turismo.
I can remember grinding out the US-Japan champ series in the first GT for the 50% chance to win the Mitsubishi FTO LM Edition because for every event it was eligible it was the best, or one of the best, cars you could have.
It was the easy mode of GT 1. Then when the Toyota GT-ONE was introduced to the series it became the best. The Minolta, when introduced in GT4, instantly became the car to grind cash with especially in GT5 at the Indy Endurance race.
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Long and proud tradition or historical bias favoritism? I know what my vote is.
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Devils advocate for a second - at least when GT started there were a lot of brilliant Japanese cars in that era, and while there were good cars from all over the world the Japanese invested more had the latest tech and dominated.
It shouldn't still be the case though!
It shouldn't still be the case though!
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- Houston, TX
- TheOneDonJuan
Slippery slope. People drive what they want to drive and I won't drive the Supra/M6 just because they're meta. I always had the Mustang/Corvette/Ford GT and hell even the Viper as alternatives and they are just straight up not competitive right now. The Ford GT prior to the patch would've done really well at this track. The fastest Corvette time is 2 seconds slower than the Supra. I prefer the physics changes as a whole but the game was very balanced before the patch. Not sure how long it'll take to get there again but Supra/Atenza fests isn't my idea of a good time. To each their own obviously.
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- Germany
As asked before, is there any possibility to give feedback to PD? I mean, if there’s a community, they may listen? 👀🤷🏻♂️
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Happy to report that the low-B lobby is not talented enough to use the Supra. I can see Supras having a hard time getting on the throttle. They weave badly at corner exits, which kills their exit speed, and they only catch up with me at the next braking zone.
An example race grid:
And, an example race finish:
This race is rather punishing. It feels more like a World Series event than a Daily Race C. I have no complaints because I feel this race brings us closer to real life. A 5-second penalty for hitting a barrier feels justified because in real life, a barrier hit results in race end. I had a misfortune where I tried too hard not to hit the barrier and ended up nudging the barrier hard with my front right, resulting in a rotational impact, leading my car to hit the barrier again with the rear right, resulting in a 10-second penalty + damaged front right and front rear wheel, lol.
I had a difficult time in the first few races as I did not diligently avoid crashing into out-of-control cars and into dive-bombers on lap 1, hitting barriers, and/or having track cutting penalties. I pulled myself together and had a careful race that resulted in a very satisfying 4th place finish, which felt like a win to me.
I chose to drive my favorite car, the Italia, and it had good tire life given I didn't have an incident, like spinning out. It was yet another example of how realistic this race felt, which I liked.
I'm also not good with tire life. For a comparison, in the World Series event at Brands Hatch with the Audi DTM, I pit at end of lap 9 on my softs. While @Fezzik pit at end of lap 11.
An example race grid:
And, an example race finish:
This race is rather punishing. It feels more like a World Series event than a Daily Race C. I have no complaints because I feel this race brings us closer to real life. A 5-second penalty for hitting a barrier feels justified because in real life, a barrier hit results in race end. I had a misfortune where I tried too hard not to hit the barrier and ended up nudging the barrier hard with my front right, resulting in a rotational impact, leading my car to hit the barrier again with the rear right, resulting in a 10-second penalty + damaged front right and front rear wheel, lol.
I had a difficult time in the first few races as I did not diligently avoid crashing into out-of-control cars and into dive-bombers on lap 1, hitting barriers, and/or having track cutting penalties. I pulled myself together and had a careful race that resulted in a very satisfying 4th place finish, which felt like a win to me.
I chose to drive my favorite car, the Italia, and it had good tire life given I didn't have an incident, like spinning out. It was yet another example of how realistic this race felt, which I liked.
I'm also not good with tire life. For a comparison, in the World Series event at Brands Hatch with the Audi DTM, I pit at end of lap 9 on my softs. While @Fezzik pit at end of lap 11.
I just drive in middle of the straight before the chicane. Good success rate so far in telling the drivers behind to back off. One dive bomber still tried their luck, hit me from behind but it was easier to recover the car compared to trying to save the car when I was outside and trying to find my space among a swarm of dive bombers.
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Personally I have issues with last to first challenges and sand baggers.
They ruin up and coming peoples races, have artificial pace beyond the field and quite honestly do it to make themselves feel better.
So i am very much on board with your frustrations on that one.
Artificially being slower to be competitive in lower leagues is a bit meh.
Daily B is fine. Just avoid the first corner dive bombs and you are all good.
It's actually one of the better GR 4 races we've had.
I won 8 back to back today recovering from a drunk session last night...
Also with the physics update it allows for recovery from contact rather than just the wall?
GrumpyOldMan
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- dagware
Hey guys - When I come to GTPlanet, I start on the forum home page, and at the top it shows something like this:
It usually has this thread ("GT7 Daily Race Discussion") in the "Threads You Follow", but it stopped doing that. Anyone know how to get it back in that list? Thanks.
It usually has this thread ("GT7 Daily Race Discussion") in the "Threads You Follow", but it stopped doing that. Anyone know how to get it back in that list? Thanks.
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It's very frustrating that over a year after the release of the game the wall contact penalties are still nonsensical. On Race C I got punted off into the wall (racing incident, the correct outcome would've been no penalties for either of us) and on top of spinning out and getting damage I get a nice 5 second penalty to serve in the next penalty zone. For track limits they have some wait time to see if you benefitted from actually cutting a corner or if it was an accident, why can't they do the same here?
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- GTP_Famine
GrumpyOldMan
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- Southern California
- dagware
Already did that. Next idea?
