GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I can't be this slow!! Well, I guess am, over two dozen races now and barely break the top 10. Thrown everything at my Nissan Fairlady Z. Purchased a 911 GT3 09 as that seemed to be the go-to car. Still, no making a dent. Im not really a tuner guy don't have a clue about toe angles and camber.

Race A played once and its far too boring. Getting bored of race B already.
 
Yeah, daily race B a bit of a joke at this point, so much effort and resources to find the best car and setup etc. Not worth it atm, I am just collecting cars and money, daily race A can wait too. Only missed NSX and R34 GT-R (?) from used car dealership, they were so popular. Plus I expected used car dealership to change more often, not the case it seems, change is slow there at least for now.

AI has been surprisingly good, especially in races were you do not start last, like those gr3 and gr4 cup races, and clubman plus races, I am quite impressed. But then again, I did not expect any improvement for AI in this game from the get go.. Will have to see, when Sophy comes, I hope it does, and for both PS4 players (me and many others) and PS5 players. More importantly, car handling model is more challenging than in GTS, same goes for licence tests and circuit experiences, some of them at least. Old GT vibes coming back, I like it.

Next up is focusing on buying two Brand Central invitational Aston Martins, I have until 20th March, should not be a massive issue, less than 400K per day. Aston Martin One-77 and Vulcan, you can only buy certain cars by invitation, it seems.. Gotta catch em` all 😉 Oops, I quoted the wrong game franchise 😅 I will check the used car dealership too, so it might be at least 500K per day on average, I need to earn, the next like 13 days.

I hope we get a gr3 or gr4 daily race soon, similar performance points as in gr3 cup (730 pp) and gr4 cup races (630 pp). Plus those type of cars, I have experience in setting up FR gr3 and gr4 cars at least, so that won`t be so time consuming. I have nothing against the style of daily B or daily A atm. But in regards to daily B, takes so much effort and money, not for me atm, plus daily A is boring hybrid cars, despite you have a Demio with diesel there too as a choice.

I did do most of GTS campaign and driving missions, before driving any race online. I am going with the same strategy in GT7. Except for leagues with certain people, good place to drive against other people again, without losing DR and SR. Because I have a lot to learn in this game, goes for the new handling model as well, which is a bit tougher than in GTS, yet more enjoyable.

Question: how often do cars change in used car dealership? How long after a car is sold out? I have yet to find out the answer to this. Or maybe the schedule for changing cars in used car dealership is just random?

samppa944, High rated A DR player in GTS
 
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peterrod
Do you have a source for that? Thanks.
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I heard it over a chat from Grove which had good majority of top drivers in Sport so I had no reason to not believe it. I had been trying to get matched up with them for a while now and I've put in 100 sport mode races so far
 
Back when GTS was new things got changed around allot without much warning or communication if i remember correctly. Like then there would be tuning and then there would be not. Then races changed daily then weekly and all kind of stuff. Might be in for that same ride with GT7.
 
NikNakTobasco
If BoP was on the rooms would be rammed with GTS converts. No one is wanting to bother at the moment.
If BoP was on wouldn’t need to spend a weekend tuning a car.
If BoP was on you wouldn’t be in rooms with people that are much better than you are.
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BOP has never existed for N class cars. Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Every single N class race in GTS was either one make by design or one make because of meta. Having a a 295BHP limit is basically the equivalent of N300 race. So the fact that there is any variety at all is already an improvement over GTS, made possible by tuning.

I enjoyed tuning my car. I did it because I wanted to use something different and still be competitive. Without tuning, you just end up with an even more restrictive meta. What I spent my weekend doing was literally impossible in GTS.

The fact that it takes quite a few hours to even unlock Sport mode probably has more to do with lower player counts than anything else. That and the fact that the game directs you into doing specific single player content as you go through the menus. Give it a month and there will be more players filling lobbies, better understanding of the game, more money earned by players to buy cars etc...

Also I think it's important to point out that there was a Gr.3 race as a daily for early access reviewers to play, which was restricted by PP, not BHP or weight. And in theory PP is a more organic version of BoP. So for all we know, it could be Polyphony's intention to use PP restrictions for Gr.1, Gr.2, Gr.3, Gr.4, and Gr.B races, and BHP restrictions for N class daily races.
 
Shottah072
Back when GTS was new things got changed around allot without much warning or communication if i remember correctly. Like then there would be tuning and then there would be not. Then races changed daily then weekly and all kind of stuff. Might be in for that same ride with GT7.
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Thanks for info, I joined GTS in Spring 2020.
 
Just had a mildly terrifying thought, is nitro allowed in Sport? I Nitro'd a Focus RS for 700PP championships, and, while it is a rubbish money pit that can't drive straight, it wins easily on the straights when the button boosts it to over 900bhp.

My point is, if you didn't know because you haven't bought the silly, expensive stuff, nitro doesn't effect PP! It effectively would split cars into "XPP with N" and "XPP without N", so I assume it's not allowed but don't know yet.
 
Obviously we all strive to race clean - except the guy who just pummeled my car into mashed potatoes - so I’m curious who else has noticed the crash damage in Sport Mode? It’s visible AND physical, slowing your car down considerably until it heals. And it’s not just paint chips either, it looks like physical deformation. If it’s not deformation then it’s some really good texturing work.

Edit: But thanks to this mess I am now A-rated lmao nice.
 
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SnakeOfBacon
Just had a mildly terrifying thought, is nitro allowed in Sport? I Nitro'd a Focus RS for 700PP championships, and, while it is a rubbish money pit that can't drive straight, it wins easily on the straights when the button boosts it to over 900bhp.

My point is, if you didn't know because you haven't bought the silly, expensive stuff, nitro doesn't effect PP! It effectively would split cars into "XPP with N" and "XPP without N", so I assume it's not allowed but don't know yet.
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Both of the current Daily Races have an explicit ban on nitrous. But it theoretically could be allowed in the future.
 
Is there a "Meta" car for race B?

I've been using the GTO and can only do 1:43:XXX's. Does buying the font and rear wings make a difference or is it looks only?

I saw SuperGTs video today, but I do not want to use the VGT. Seems cheap
 
MrMattAdz
BOP has never existed for N class cars. Are you sure you know what you're talking about? Every single N class race in GTS was either one make by design or one make because of meta. Having a a 295BHP limit is basically the equivalent of N300 race. So the fact that there is any variety at all is already an improvement over GTS, made possible by tuning.

I enjoyed tuning my car. I did it because I wanted to use something different and still be competitive. Without tuning, you just end up with an even more restrictive meta. What I spent my weekend doing was literally impossible in GTS.

The fact that it takes quite a few hours to even unlock Sport mode probably has more to do with lower player counts than anything else. That and the fact that the game directs you into doing specific single player content as you go through the menus. Give it a month and there will be more players filling lobbies, better understanding of the game, more money earned by players to buy cars etc...

Also I think it's important to point out that there was a Gr.3 race as a daily for early access reviewers to play, which was restricted by PP, not BHP or weight. And in theory PP is a more organic version of BoP. So for all we know, it could be Polyphony's intention to use PP restrictions for Gr.1, Gr.2, Gr.3, Gr.4, and Gr.B races, and BHP restrictions for N class daily races.
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I think this is how it’ll end up working. Tuning allowed for N-class racing. Which is good because Race A never had a lot of peoples interest compared to B and C. This will change that for me at least… and probably many others
 
Montreal_Mike
Is there a "Meta" car for race B?

I've been using the GTO and can only do 1:43:XXX's. Does buying the font and rear wings make a difference or is it looks only?

I saw SuperGTs video today, but I do not want to use the VGT. Seems cheap
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There have been several evolutions, yeah. First the 991 GT3 was unbeatable, then people tuned the R32 GT-R, and now both the R34 and Audi R8 are extremely good. But the ultimate car is gag the Peugeot VGT of all things. It's straight-line speed is incredible although very few people seem to be able to make it turn worth a damn. That doesn't matter, because it'll outrun everything by 30 mph down the straights. It can erase a 2 second lead between the final hairpin and turn 1 at Deep Forest. I personally am not keen on the idea of using VGT cars in online races but apparently some people have no conscience.

I'm using the Audi R8 with great results lately but I've only won a single race against a Peugeot VGT and that was simply because he ran into me and got a 3 second penalty. The standouts are the 992 GT3 with excellent grip and acceleration, the R34 which is stable on corner exit and turns tight around the hairpin, and the R8 which is also fast, easy to drive consistently, and good enough on stock suspension that you won't be bouncing over curbs and whatnot. By the time you including tuning costs, the R8 is the cheapest of these three options because it doesn't even need a suspension or transmission to win.

Also, based on Super GT's video, it seems like widebodies hurt a car's turning radius. In real life that would make sense, because wider tires and lower offsets increase scrub radius which increases friction with the ground and reduces a car's ability to turn at slow speeds. I can't confirm that GT7 is simulating scrub radius but that is a pretty basic factor in suspension geometry. This is actually a really big issue at Deep Forest's final hairpin which might be one of the tightest turns in the entire game.
 
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OJBrit
But then in a couple of months it could be perfect for one of the daily races that week. It's not as much of a waste as you think it is. Spending your money is now strategic.
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I mean if they're going to go this route then pretty soon we will need sponsorships in order to compete. If PD want to monetize obtaining the most viable cars for a race, they might as well make race repairs cost credits too, and race fuel. Oh and gotta pay your pit crew. ;);)
 
I've been puttering around in mid field in my Audi TT for the past few days and its been very entertaining to see the top leaderboard times shoot down when someone finds a new car to drive, quickly followed by half the grid becoming that car. It has put my average start from about 5th to 12th, but it is what it is!

All things considered, the grid seems somewhat varied right now, there's quite a few meta cars so it's not as bad as it was when everyone was in a 911, now you have those coupled alongside the skylines and VGT cars at least. I was worried it'd just end up as a one make.
 
Keef
There have been several evolutions, yeah. First the 991 GT3 was unbeatable, then people tuned the R32 GT-R, and now both the R34 and Audi R8 are extremely good. But the ultimate car is gag the Peugeot VGT of all things. It's straight-line speed is incredible although very few people seem to be able to make it turn worth a damn. That doesn't matter, because it'll outrun everything by 30 mph down the straights. It can erase a 2 second lead between the final hairpin and turn 1 at Deep Forest. I personally am not keen on the idea of using VGT cars in online races but apparently some people have no conscience.

I'm using the Audi R8 with great results lately but I've only won a single race against a Peugeot VGT and that was simply because he ran into me and got a 3 second penalty. The standouts are the 992 GT3 with excellent grip and acceleration, the R34 which is stable on corner exit and turns tight around the hairpin, and the R8 which is also fast, easy to drive consistently, and good enough on stock suspension that you won't be bouncing over curbs and whatnot. By the time you including tuning costs, the R8 is the cheapest of these three options because it doesn't even need a suspension or transmission to win.

Also, based on Super GT's video, it seems like widebodies hurt a car's turning radius. In real life that would make sense, because wider tires and lower offsets increase scrub radius which increases friction with the ground and reduces a car's ability to turn at slow speeds. I can't confirm that GT7 is simulating scrub radius but that is a pretty basic factor in suspension geometry. This is actually a really big issue at Deep Forest's final hairpin which might be one of the tightest turns in the entire game.
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Thanks for this! I just bought an R8 and my first lap was 3+ seconds faster. I wasted so much time on that GTO
 
come on with the L500Rs
go play ridge racer or even wipeout

9 out of 10 of them will use their high speed and ram you out on a turn
AND on top you get penalty(!) for hitting the barrier

/end rant

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1.39 with audi tt
 
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Keef
There have been several evolutions, yeah. First the 991 GT3 was unbeatable, then people tuned the R32 GT-R, and now both the R34 and Audi R8 are extremely good. But the ultimate car is gag the Peugeot VGT of all things. It's straight-line speed is incredible although very few people seem to be able to make it turn worth a damn. That doesn't matter, because it'll outrun everything by 30 mph down the straights. It can erase a 2 second lead between the final hairpin and turn 1 at Deep Forest. I personally am not keen on the idea of using VGT cars in online races but apparently some people have no conscience.

I'm using the Audi R8 with great results lately but I've only won a single race against a Peugeot VGT and that was simply because he ran into me and got a 3 second penalty. The standouts are the 992 GT3 with excellent grip and acceleration, the R34 which is stable on corner exit and turns tight around the hairpin, and the R8 which is also fast, easy to drive consistently, and good enough on stock suspension that you won't be bouncing over curbs and whatnot. By the time you including tuning costs, the R8 is the cheapest of these three options because it doesn't even need a suspension or transmission to win.

Also, based on Super GT's video, it seems like widebodies hurt a car's turning radius. In real life that would make sense, because wider tires and lower offsets increase scrub radius which increases friction with the ground and reduces a car's ability to turn at slow speeds. I can't confirm that GT7 is simulating scrub radius but that is a pretty basic factor in suspension geometry. This is actually a really big issue at Deep Forest's final hairpin which might be one of the tightest turns in the entire game.
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Thanks again! Just finished 2nd with it
 
Both my accounts are stuck on menu 3 and the tuning shop isn't available.
Is this a known glitch and how do I fix this please?

Thanks in advance.
 
I enjoy the tuning aspect in Sport mode however i really think Gr. 4 and Gr. 3 races should be BOP races. It would give different people what they want to play.
 
Keef
They need to have an explicit ban on VGT cars is what they need. Anybody who runs a VGT car online still sleeps with a teddy bear.
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Oh man, I hurt a lot of feelings yesterday when I decided to pony up and buy that VGT car. Everyone mad at me cause I wasn't racing what THEY wanted me to race and I was passing folks up like they were at a dead stop.

I had only just bought the car though and grinded to get into the top 10 so wanted to use it. Definitely enjoyed the tuning aspects of the road cars though I've got a pretty deep stable for race B with the gt350r, Rx7, Focus RS, 06' Ford GT and the 911 GT3 all things that wouldn't have really been possible on GT Sport.
 
For those of you who want to beat the VGT car just make it extremely difficult and send it with any open opportunity and shut the door on them when you get the chance. By the end of Lap 3 it'll be out of juice and easily beatable.
 
Pfei
Ambiguous as usual, but what's the deal with the second and third bullet points? They seem mutually exclusive.

Also, has it been confirmed that Daily Races are not affecting DR or SR?

It seems that Sport Mode at this moment is just some half-finished beta test. The way A and B are set up is a hard no for me. Maybe with Daily C coming on the 14th there will be an overhaul.

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DR/SR is active and constantly changing on GT7... I started around 60k DR A+/S and hit a low point and ended up at A/B rating... it took 2-3x longer to earn my SR back compared to Sport. So you will have to grind some to gain your SR back. Thankfully I'm back where I started although I do not know my actual rating #.
 
Jwptexas
DR/SR is active and constantly changing on GT7... I started around 60k DR A+/S and hit a low point and ended up at A/B rating... it took 2-3x longer to earn my SR back compared to Sport. So you will have to grind some to gain your SR back. Thankfully I'm back where I started although I do not know my actual rating #.
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Nice, so can you confirm that Dr points now changes after a daily race?
 
breeminator
They should be less than 3 seconds slower than him, not 8 seconds.
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tofuhero
I mean if they're going to go this route then pretty soon we will need sponsorships in order to compete. If PD want to monetize obtaining the most viable cars for a race, they might as well make race repairs cost credits too, and race fuel. Oh and gotta pay your pit crew. ;);)
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Most viable cars? This way lots of cars can become viable cars unlike 1 or 2 on GTS. 1 make road car dailies will be a thing of the past.
ornery
This type of thing ruins sport mode for me. I was already penalized for someone hitting my car into someone elses, then this happens...

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At least it looks like they got a penalty too.
 

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