GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I am the same, I grind mostly Mondays more for muscle memory race Tue-thur and then really try to improve my time ready for the weekend heroes :)

Bah I was playing wolfenstein on a shareware 3.5 floppy disk and before that wheel of fortune or jeopardy on a 5 1/4 floppy....let alone Zelda and FF 😝

I feel old, so old.

In between races I smoke...this is why I hate the longer breaks...I smoke more which I shouldn't!

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Anyone else having the game crash sometimes loading races. Sometimes mine and others aren't loading and sometimes it just hangs on the race lobby screen. It hasn't ever done this since I bought the game at launch?
I started playing Quake in 1991.

I was 32 years old....
 
Question, if you exit a race after seeing the lobby but before you start does this still kill your DR/SR or can you exit if you do not like the lobby?
I can't tell you why you got matched so strangely, but I suspect it's just that there weren't enough people racing right then. As for your question, I believe the answer is yes, it still kills your SR. You won't see it updated until after the race finishes, though.
 
I’m definitely loving racing with VR2. So much more control and visibility. For me anyway.

Also, there’s a benefit to being a B racing with A’s, if you gain a position over one, your DR points increase. Quite a bit. I just have to get quicker. VR definitely does help. Plus it’s so much more fun. Again, for me.

Question: I practice and set bop hp and weigh. For hp, should I adjust a power restrictor or the ECU?
also wondering if any of my tune settings ever carry over in a bop race? Any at all?
 
I'm done with daily races this week. I just had two miserable races that called into question the whole worth of GT7 online races if they are not matched correctly....

I started the evening trying to improve my QT in daily B but it just was not happening. Trying to get turns 9 and 14 correct is killing me. After about 2 hours I gave up... Went to daily C and I usually do okay in that one and when matched with comparable DR rated drivers I can often get top 5. Instead I got matched with this line up. I mean, WTF!!!


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Now I am a lowly B rating at only 27% progress but it matched me with 2 A+ and 9 A drivers. They're so far ahead of me it's not funny. First lap I was feeling relative competitive and stayed with the pack and was actually finding P13 holding me up, but one of those A+ appeared to be one of those, "let's not QT and race from the back" kind of drivers. He blew past me and P13 so quick that it threw off my rhythm and I lost it into the complex and crashed out. I did continue but ended up last, 1 minute 8 seconds back. It was not fun.

Thinking that, for whatever reason regular DR Bs were avoiding race C on a Saturday night, I thought I would give B a go after all.


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DOUBLE WFT!! This one is even worse! 3 A+ and 8 A drivers. Also why do I have a DR A behind me again? Starting out was not so bad and I made it up to 11th mid lap 1. What I did not know was that pole sitter had deliberately pulled off to the side at the start so as to race from the back. So I actually had an A+ and A nipping at my heels entering turn 14. A+ driver makes the move first. Now this corner is my nemesis, I hate it, and he gets on the inside as I am trying my best to hit the apex and not fling myself into the gravel. He gets inside of me (quit precisely, admittedly on replay, but not visible to me at the time) and he slaps me in the side as I continue my racing line across his path. I'm sure he would say it was my fault but I'm going as quick as I can possibly drive. It's not my fault, mr A+ decided to start from the back after QTing in pole. He's obviously so much faster than everyone else, I would expect a higher level of sportsmanship. Not my fault PD put me in a field of A/A+ drivers; it sucks to be a low B in such a race. Anyway, I was not please.



Then through turns 1, 2 and the beginning of 3, Mr A driver makes his turn to pass me.



That moved looks a bit dirty to me, particularly where I was punted off at turn 3. Not impressed.

That allowed the other Bs to catch up to me and at T4 having been unsettled by Mr A driver, I got a little lose (my fault from over accelerating) and then one of the cars behind caught my rear quarters and I was spun out into the wall.



After that it was a lonely drive to come in last (16th).

Disgusted, I switched the PS5 off, thoroughly PO'd with the night.

Seriously what was going on with the matching? I should never have been in those lobbies.
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I'm clearly a low DR B driver as that is where I have plateaued. I have no capability to race against A+/A drivers. Even mid/high B drivers usually leave me in the dust... Where'd all the low B's go? Down the pub...?

Question, if you exit a race after seeing the lobby but before you start does this still kill your DR/SR or can you exit if you do not like the lobby?


I'm around the same DR as you and keep getting matched with a lobby of about 2 A+, 10 A and the rest B. It's tough. I've been up in A before, but it'll take selective racing in categories and tracks I'm good with for me to get there again. I think I naturally fall in B right now. I've picked up some podiums and a win in B only lobbies this week, but in slow times the player base in our region must suck.
 
I’m definitely loving racing with VR2. So much more control and visibility. For me anyway.

Also, there’s a benefit to being a B racing with A’s, if you gain a position over one, your DR points increase. Quite a bit. I just have to get quicker. VR definitely does help. Plus it’s so much more fun. Again, for me.
I love racing in the VR2. A good race is pretty intense anyway, but that bumps it up a whole other level.

I had the mismatched lobbies earlier in the week, but it seemed a bit more the right sort of level on Friday and I got some decent tight races. Must be luck of the draw more than anything, but very frustrating when you are way out of your league.
 
I really really really can't believe this.

I have been racing all day won a couple mostly top 5 finishes moved my SR back to S and at NO time messaged or insulted anyone. I learned that lesson. I even streamed for an hour or so.

I quit my last race with the pedal calibration issue. I was racing to improve my SR nothing more nothing less.

This is pathetic as I did nothing wrong.

Edit: At that time I was actually at the shop buying cigarettes and some beers.

Im absolutely dumbfounded quite frankly.

I've also played CoD for nearly 20 years and never had this sort of thing before. Especially when I didn't do anything.

Further Edit: Kimi gets to drive like he does and yet never gets banned or suspended.

Sure we are all rubbish in our moments but largely it's one offs and not vindictive.

This really has done me. As it means I can't even race ACC online.
You're not alone.
I got a 7 day suspension, and then a 30 day suspension.
The first one was pretty indefensible, since I called somebody a British slang term for a cigarette in the post-race chat.

Not so sure about the second one, though.
After 3 straight races with a player who punted every car that got near him, I told that person, once again, in the post-race chat, that he would be getting knocked off the track every time I see him. I still don't believe that called for an account suspension.
Since I have multiple accounts, it wasn't a very big deal.

Either way, I just don't put it in writing anymore. Whatever might happen on the track doesn't seem to interest Sony, at all.
 
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speaking of lobbies... I had one race C this week where I (high B) Qd P8, all As and A+s ahead. I look behind and all were no qualy, six A+, two As, I was the lone B! Held my own for a couple of laps, scored an own goal and finished near last (can't remember) where I probably shoudl have. I feel, if I sit down to race it is because I want to drive, so I don't get too stressed and you're not really losing any significant dr.

That lobby was a bit extreme, but not by much for me. The one all-B raceC I had this week, I started pole and won - woohoo! But I didn't recognize any of the names in the lobby which is odd. Maybe it's summer, maybe there are more ps5s out there, who knows.
 
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Either way, I just don't put it in writing anymore. Whatever might happen on the track doesn't seem to interest Sony, at all.
Very true - I've had several races with a certain pink car driven by an infamous driver and he ruins pretty much every race - even when he leads, he slows up to wreck other cars. He's not the only one though.

Needs an ebay or trustpilot style feedback rating for each driver, which would also be open to abuse of course, unless only one negative review could be left by each driver. Eventually the feedback could lead up to a ban.
 
This one is even worse! 3 A+ and 8 A drivers. Also why do I have a DR A behind me again?
I don't mean to make you feel more miserable but I would rather take this all SR-S lobby instead of mixed SR lobby that I get a few times when I race at an unpopular time. Had one such race yesterday and an SR-B did an expected thing- took out the pole sitter, another SR-A took himself out, and this gave me my first podium at this week's Suzuka race, an unsatisfying one.

I actually like racing along A and A+ folks as they give me experience of multi-class racing while being cleaner than B folks most of the times (I am B) as well as being more accommodating to lower skills. But it is just personal experience and everyone's mileage varies.

Now that it is a new day today, see your videos again. Do you have a different opinion now? Definitely not intentional at all but it was just a bad day for you. In the first two videos, incidents happened due not giving enough space. Alonso wouldn't approve. :D

The incident in the third video happened due to abrupt slowing down on the racing line.

I've not tried this week's Catalunya race but from videos I've seen, I feel that it is deceptively harder than the Suzuka race.

Very true - I've had several races with a certain pink car driven by an infamous driver and he ruins pretty much every race - even when he leads, he slows up to wreck other cars.
I am curious now. I've heard of this guy many times. Why don't you guys talk in the lobby and have a mutual agreement to take out this guy in every race regardless of whether he races clean or dirty?
 
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I think I’m done with the daily’s today. I just encountered a player who was not just a dirty driver trying to win but it would seem that this person’s only goal is/was to ruin everyone’s race. They were very successful at it to myself and a hand full of others. It’s crazy to me that Sony and or PD doesn’t have a way to report, not just your average dirty driver but the ones who are there strictly to ruin everyone’s race!
The cherry on top being the lack luster penalty system that allows such behavior. I would think as a business model that potentially having one person be able to make other customers not want to play as often or even stop playing at all.
 
It really helps to:
  1. Love the track and car/tire combination (Catalunya, R.S.01, RMs) and
  2. Have a good QT.
Rising from the ashes of B/A below 50% to B/S over 75% feels really good.

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I know others have had some bad experiences on both B and C, and I know exactly how frustrating that can be - you don't have to search too far back to see me voicing the same complaints. So I'm not indifferent to your pain. Yet I personally have loved this week!
 
I think I’m done with the daily’s today. I just encountered a player who was not just a dirty driver trying to win but it would seem that this person’s only goal is/was to ruin everyone’s race. They were very successful at it to myself and a hand full of others. It’s crazy to me that Sony and or PD doesn’t have a way to report, not just your average dirty driver but the ones who are there strictly to ruin everyone’s race!
The cherry on top being the lack luster penalty system that allows such behavior. I would think as a business model that potentially having one person be able to make other customers not want to play as often or even stop playing at all.
Ah but some minor swearing or even abbreviated swearing at these drivers and Sony and PD are all over it.

The suspension email even talks about online fair play which is ironic.

It's really a double standard that is exemplified when poor sportsmanship (which they MAKE YOU WATCH) and then going to YT and watching people say the same things is somewhat turned a blind eye to.

I'm still bitter at the moment but it really does feel like a double standard.
 
I think I’m done with the daily’s today. I just encountered a player who was not just a dirty driver trying to win but it would seem that this person’s only goal is/was to ruin everyone’s race. They were very successful at it to myself and a hand full of others. It’s crazy to me that Sony and or PD doesn’t have a way to report, not just your average dirty driver but the ones who are there strictly to ruin everyone’s race!
The cherry on top being the lack luster penalty system that allows such behavior. I would think as a business model that potentially having one person be able to make other customers not want to play as often or even stop playing at all.
The penalty system really does dish out some nonsense. Earlier today, guy 2 cars in front braked early, guy in front of me went into him and I hit the guy in front of me. Neither of them get anything, I have nowhere to go but the back of the car in front because get this - we're racing close to each other. But I get slapped with a 4 second penalty for contact.

Thankfully I've not had many penalties in this week's races though as I've been taking it far easier and less seriously than I have done in previous months. My DR has plummeted from the very tip top of A to about 1/4 of the way into A. But if it means more fun racing, then I'm fine with it.
 
I don't mean to make you feel more miserable but I would rather take this all SR-S lobby instead of mixed SR lobby that I get a few times when I race at an unpopular time. Had one such race yesterday and an SR-B did an expected thing- took out the pole sitter, another SR-A took himself out, and this gave me my first podium at this week's Suzuka race, an unsatisfying one.

I actually like racing along A and A+ folks as they give me experience of multi-class racing while being cleaner than B folks most of the times (I am B) as well as being more accommodating to lower skills. But it is just personal experience and everyone's mileage varies.

Now that it is a new day today, see your videos again. Do you have a different opinion now? Definitely not intentional at all but it was just a bad day for you. In the first two videos, incidents happened due not giving enough space. Alonso wouldn't approve. :D
I think I was in a bad mood last night. I did jump on to do three B races today hoping for a better crowd. I won't necessarily say better but it was more aligned to my level and I even had one race with @GrumpyOldMan in it. He QT'd 3rd and finished 3rd and I QT'd something like 12th (don't remember exactly) and finished 7th.

The other two races were less clean. First race I was up to 6th (from 10th I think) and P7 behind me dives inside at P10 on the last lap (no way they were going to make that corner) and punts me off. I hold it but I drop from 6th to something like 12th or 13th in the last corners. That was annoying. The last race I cam across Mr Dirty driver....
I think I’m done with the daily’s today. I just encountered a player who was not just a dirty driver trying to win but it would seem that this person’s only goal is/was to ruin everyone’s race. They were very successful at it to myself and a hand full of others. It’s crazy to me that Sony and or PD doesn’t have a way to report, not just your average dirty driver but the ones who are there strictly to ruin everyone’s race!
I cam across a similar driver today. I'd QT'd in 14th (this was a more competitive field) but had good pace lap 1 and was up places (I forgot to save the race so don't recall exactly what) and entering turn 5, cars in front where 2 wide and getting in a kerfuffle and slowed suddenly. I dove inside (otherwise I may have hit them) and brushed one of the cars (but I was tight and there was still room for the others two wide). He must have taken offense as next tune he just slammed into me at turn 7 dropping me to last. I caught up and could see that there were still two cars seemingly going at it in front of me. Last lap I see one car take the other out at turn 3. I'm like 80% confident this was Mr bad guy. At turn 9 I catch up with him fast, go on the inside as he went wide and left him room but he decides to go into me. I had momentum on my side and a quick flick of the wheel to the left and I sent him off as pay back. At this point I did not care on my SR and this car was being a dick. Entering turn 10, he charges at me full speed, no brakes to try to knock me off.. He did catch me but mostly misses barreling off the track. So much for Sunday drivers... I finished 14th.

The only consolation is that my DR tanked the last two days so perhaps I will have some nice competitive next week in a lower grouping. The downside is that race B tanked my SR S rating down to an A. So now I'm getting grouped with A and B SR drivers which is why I'm coming across poorer driving. I think I need to run a race or two of C now as C is a good one go get my SR back to an S.
 
I cam across a similar driver today.
So someone can get banned for saying something unkind while streaming on YouTube, but someone who is actively ruining people's races isn't even on Sony/PD/Whoever's radar?

In today's world, it seems that people tend to get punished more often for what they say than what they do. But I'm a grumpy old man, so what do I know?
 
I think I should only race on Mondays and Tuesdays. That is the only time I do well. Later in the week and the weekend can be bad..

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After saying I was going to quit last night after being in a bad mood I tried again today. Lobbies now B/S but my QT was down the grid. First B I was in 6th half-way through the last lap when P7 took me out and then that led to me dropping further. Not a great start but I felt competitive so I stuck with it. Next race I came across @GrumpyOldMan in the same race. First time! I said Hi in chat but I don't think you noticed. That race was better, even though a low QT again and I finished 7th.

Those last two races had some knocks though and it dropped my SR to A. That started a death spiral as now I was being paired with SR A and SR B drivers while still having a QT at the back of the field. The next races were rough dropping my SR even more to a B yet I kept at it thinking my drop in DR would put me in easier lobbies were my QT would be better. Nope. Still stayed around 13th/14th and when by myself drove just fine. When I caught up with cars in front and got slowed, unable to pass due to rough driving I inevitably was then hit and taken out by the car behind. Catalunya is rapidly becoming one of my least favorite tracks..

Realizing that a sign or madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I quit and when to race C. Suzuka is rapidly becoming one of my favorite tracks but that is the next post...

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I think I should only race on Mondays and Tuesdays. That is the only time I do well. Later in the week and the weekend can be bad..

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After saying I was going to quit last night after being in a bad mood I tried again today. Lobbies now B/S but my QT was down the grid. First B I was in 6th half-way through the last lap when P7 took me out and then that led to me dropping further. Not a great start but I felt competitive so I stuck with it. Next race I came across @GrumpyOldMan in the same race. First time! I said Hi in chat but I don't think you noticed. That race was better, even though a low QT again and I finished 7th.

Those last two races had some knocks though and it dropped my SR to A. That started a death spiral as now I was being paired with SR A and SR B drivers while still having a QT at the back of the field. The next races were rough dropping my SR even more to a B yet I kept at it thinking my drop in DR would put me in easier lobbies were my QT would be better. Nope. Still stayed around 13th/14th and when by myself drove just fine. When I caught up with cars in front and got slowed, unable to pass due to rough driving I inevitably was then hit and taken out by the car behind. Catalunya is rapidly becoming one of my least favorite tracks..

Realizing that a sign or madness is doing the same thing over and over and expecting different results. I quit and when to race C. Suzuka is rapidly becoming one of my favorite tracks but that is the next post...
Race B kinda felt like a setup. Just too short. Sure, if you have a good qt and can run the board its a great Dr builder. However, binning someone effectively removes them from the race even more than usual for a sprint. Still, when the races were clean it was great fun while it lasted.

It was interesting that race C was the opposite, giving plenty of time to recover from dirty tricks. Even spend a little time living in peoples mirrors until they fell off to the side. Nevertheless, it was a heck of a dirty week out there. Not sure if its punk kids on summer break, or angry old men, either way the number door banging bumper blasters was crazy. And that probably half would make some clean race comment before/after left me dumbfounded. Ah well..the glen sounds fun tomorrow..
 
Tried out one last race again on Race C to test out my stream. Glad I was recording! I think this race really is hard to recover from if you make one mistake. Suzuka and the tire wear is really unforgiving. I've noticed most drivers (me included) lose out at least half a second per lap on the tires once you go wide or hit the grass. It really is a war of attrition.

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Race B kinda felt like a setup. Just too short. Sure, if you have a good qt and can run the board its a great Dr builder. However, binning someone effectively removes them from the race even more than usual for a sprint. Still, when the races were clean it was great fun while it lasted.

It was interesting that race C was the opposite, giving plenty of time to recover from dirty tricks. Even spend a little time living in peoples mirrors until they fell off to the side. Nevertheless, it was a heck of a dirty week out there. Not sure if its punk kids on summer break, or angry old men, either way the number door banging bumper blasters was crazy. And that probably half would make some clean race comment before/after left me dumbfounded. Ah well..the glen sounds fun tomorrow..
Very much agree. I was too much a victim of aggressive or just poor driving at B and once taken out, it was race over. Sometime through the poor driving of others I might make it up to around 12/13 if lucky after being punted out on first lap, or I end up in 14th or something last... There is next to no time to recover.

Tried out one last race again on Race C to test out my stream. Glad I was recording! I think this race really is hard to recover from if you make one mistake. Suzuka and the tire wear is really unforgiving. I've noticed most drivers (me included) lose out at least half a second per lap on the tires once you go wide or hit the grass. It really is a war of attrition.
I guess it depends on your perspective. If you expect to be 1st (yes, I know you are quick) then any mistake could be fatal at the high A+ level but if you are at my level there is enough variability in the drivers where if you do have an off, there is a chance to catch up. Yes it can be hard and if the competitors are close in QT then you are perhaps waiting for attrition. But isn't that the same for any race? C this week had laps on your side whereas B did not.

Now to my last C race of the week, it was a good one, but also a "what could have been.." I had serious potential to win this one and I threw it away on lap 1.. Oh well, from 2nd to 4th which in the end was not too bad considering an off on lap 1 and a 2 second penalty on lap 5. Darn those ghosts!

 
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I guess it depends on your perspective. If you expect to be 1st (yes, I know you are quick) then any mistake could be fatal at the high A+ level but if you are at my level there is enough variability in the drivers where if you do have an off, there is a chance to catch up. Yes it can be hard and if the competitors are close in QT then you are perhaps waiting for attrition. But isn't that the same for any race? C this week had laps on your side whereas B did not.
It's the high tire wear races that really make the loss in grip more profound, though. I've had some offs and it was enough of a loss of grip to where I would suddenly be unable to catch up to guys running 5th or 6th. The variability and catch-up potential exists for most races in A/B lobbies, especially mid-pack, but this race I felt was more unforgiving. The way I see it, this race highly rewards smoother drivers who don't go off the track, even if you're half a second slower per lap than the guy in front who has a moment every 5 laps. Taking mid/lower pack shenanigans into consideration, most people tend to have 1-3 big offs so you can almost count it as a given in A or lower driver ratings. I would not say the same for example, for the Nurburgring GP Gr. 3 race last week, which really rewards the pace even at the expense of occasional mistakes.

I didn't run race B at all this week (don't like the Catalunya track) but the way I see it, if you're heading into the sub-7 minute sprint race, the goal of the race is to run as fast as you can with no mistakes. This is relatively easier given that you have almost 2.5 times less racing time than race C. But given that you have less time, yes, a shunt or an off will be your race over.
 
Next race I came across @GrumpyOldMan in the same race. First time! I said Hi in chat but I don't think you noticed.
I noticed, and I even replied "Hi", but right at the last moment before the race started so you might not have seen it. But normally I don't like to chat because I'm really slow at it (even with a keyboard),
Race B kinda felt like a setup. Just too short. Sure, if you have a good qt and can run the board its a great Dr builder.
You may be right about that. Up until the last race, the worst starting position I had was 6, because I had good QTs. I probably averaged about P4. I went from DR B at 47% to 80%. And SR A to SR S.
I kept at it thinking my drop in DR would put me in easier lobbies were my QT would be better. Nope. Still stayed around 13th/14th
I made the mistake of running one last race last night, even though I knew Sunday night has a lot fewer people racing so the chances of getting in a tough lobby were high. Here's what I got:

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Only ended up losing less than 1 percentage point, so I consider that a win, if you know what I mean.

Looking forward to Laguna Seca on RS tires. Assuming I typed in the information correctly, we've only had 4 Daily Race Bs on RS tires, so this should be fun.
 
Still on vacation but only this week. As I don't have big plans today, I think it is finally time to get my American account towards the target of being able to do sport mode races. Not doing dailies that much these days, but starting fron the back could make them more interesting 🤔
 
I made the mistake of running one last race last night, even though I knew Sunday night has a lot fewer people racing so the chances of getting in a tough lobby were high. Here's what I got:

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Only ended up losing less than 1 percentage point, so I consider that a win, if you know what I mean.
So long as you finish ahead of the other B's you shouldn't loose too much from that lobby. If you claim any A scalps then you really help your cause.
 
So in the past 48hrs or so I thought I would practice Gr3 Watkins Glen in view of both the upcoming WS round and the new Daily Race C.

I eventually manage to get down to a 1:46:2, which I didn’t think was too bad for a C/S. Plus it’s day one of the new Daily C and I was looking forward to a good starting position in the first race I entered, which was 11:00am on EMEA.

The race loads and I am presented with this:

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Going to have to be very careful here because of the profanity rules, but I can find no possible reason for the two drivers highlighted to be in this race. Our reward for our decent times is to be placed in a Race where we have no right to be be. I know I am not quick enough to race at B level, hell I barely get by at Dr C.

Why do PD bother with their patronising blather about sportsmanship when they do matching like this? Why do they state that people will be matched with others of similar abilities? I manage ONE flying lap that is fairly decent and my reward is to lose Dr (I finished 12th) that I can not afford to have squandered.

How can PD manage to pretty much ensure that all WS races are matched correctly yet allow this BS in Dailies to be commonplace?

Not happy.
 
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So in the past 48hrs or so I thought I would practice Gr3 Watkins Glen in view of both the upcoming WS round and the new Daily Race C.

I eventually manage to get down to a 1:46:2, which I didn’t think was too bad for a C/S. Plus it’s day one of the new Daily C and I was looking forward to a good starting position in the first race I entered, which was 11:00am on EMEA.

The race loads and I am presented with this:

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Going to have to be very careful here because of the profanity rules, but I can find no possible reason for the two drivers highlighted to be in this race. Our reward for our decent times is to be placed in a Race where we have no right to be be. I know I am not quick enough to race at B level, hell I barely get by at Dr C.

Why do PD bother with their patronising blather about sportsmanship when they do matching like this? Why do they state that people will be matched with others of similar abilities? I manage ONE flying lap that is fairly decent and my reward is to lose Dr (I finished 12th) that I can not afford to have squandered.

How can PD manage to pretty much ensure that all WS races are matched correctly yet allow this BS in Dailies to be commonplace?

Not happy.
There probably just isn't enough players queuing at 11am on a Monday to give you that. Off-peak times are generally when you get these weird lobbies.
 
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