GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[dcalde78]

The car rental system for Sport mode annoys me. Sure you get the opportunity to try different cars without buying them, finding which you like and whatnot but it also just means that you can jump into the meta car even if you don't own it and there's zero penalty for it. Racing GR4 at the Red Bull Ring last week was just so boring because it was nothing but Mazda3s, and me fighting them in an AMG. Sure it was kinda fun to beat players racing the meta car in something that's considerably worse (I did the same in the race at Spa, using the 2011 M3 and going from pretty much last to the mid pack) but it's only fun for so long when you know you can't win without using a specific car.

 

[Nebuc72]

The car rental system for Sport mode annoys me. Sure you get the opportunity to try different cars without buying them, finding which you like and whatnot but it also just means that you can jump into the meta car even if you don't own it and there's zero penalty for it. Racing GR4 at the Red Bull Ring last week was just so boring because it was nothing but Mazda3s, and me fighting them in an AMG. Sure it was kinda fun to beat players racing the meta car in something that's considerably worse (I did the same in the race at Spa, using the 2011 M3 and going from pretty much last to the mid pack) but it's only fun for so long when you know you can't win without using a specific car.

I think this is misplaced annoyance, to be honest. The meta cars are seldom expensive, and unless it's a Gr.1 race you can buy them straight from the dealership for cheap anyway. It wouldn't make a difference if it wasn't there, people would just buy the cars.

 

[Talon16]

The car rental system for Sport mode annoys me. Sure you get the opportunity to try different cars without buying them, finding which you like and whatnot but it also just means that you can jump into the meta car even if you don't own it and there's zero penalty for it. Racing GR4 at the Red Bull Ring last week was just so boring because it was nothing but Mazda3s, and me fighting them in an AMG. Sure it was kinda fun to beat players racing the meta car in something that's considerably worse (I did the same in the race at Spa, using the 2011 M3 and going from pretty much last to the mid pack) but it's only fun for so long when you know you can't win without using a specific car.

Sounds like you have more of a problem with the broken Gr4 BoP is rather than the ability to rent cars.... to which I'd agree.

SF races at Suzuka, Fuji and Autopolis in real life (and other tracks we don't have in the game) and the only time PD does an SF daily race is to match a real life SF race (they were at Suzuka the other weekend).

I did forget about Autopolis, but my point still stands: they're limited to a few tracks. The SF cars around Spa would be glorious, especially with weather. Or any in-game tracks F1 races on, Brazil, RBR, Catalunya, Monza, etc.

They did do a Nations race at Deep Forest a while back, but it was obviously a one-off (and they may have been the SF19, I don't recall).

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

This is not the way to start your first race of the week at Sardegna:

Lap 1, T1, into the very unforgiving angled wall. Sigh. At least wall penalties are turned off.

 

[CMB350]

Tried to learn B race track and finally got the 911 down to 1:42.59 and tried a race out after I was lapping consistently. I can’t recall doing this layout but that happens at my age 😂

I started with the 911 and had to learn the track too. I’m pretty sure I’ve never done any laps on this layout. Done a million laps grinding in the opposite direction, but it feels completely different in reverse! It’s not that bad once you get the hang of it. Some of the sections are kind of fun.

I was able to turn some decent qualy laps after just a few minutes. I ended up with the exact same time as GrumpyOldMan. I bested the time after taking a short break and giving it a go before doing a race. At 1:43.0 now.

Only did one race last night. Started P13 in a A+, A, & B mixed lobby. It was a clean race and relatively uneventful. I was happy with the results.

I’ll probably continue to do some Race B’s this week. Hopefully I can get my DR back to 99% in B.

 

[Fezzik]

I did forget about Autopolis, but my point still stands: they're limited to a few tracks. The SF cars around Spa would be glorious, especially with weather. Or any in-game tracks F1 races on, Brazil, RBR, Catalunya, Monza, etc.

They did do a Nations race at Deep Forest a while back, but it was obviously a one-off (and they may have been the SF19, I don't recall).

There was also a Naions Cup SF19 race at Spa last year. Agree it would be fun for a daily.

 

[GTWolverine]

There was also a Naions Cup SF19 race at Spa last year. Agree it would be fun for a daily.

And another one for last year's Toyota GR Cup. I'd rather race the F1500 or MP4/4 there anyway.

 

[skandiamannen]

I started with the 911 and had to learn the track too. I’m pretty sure I’ve never done any laps on this layout. Done a million laps grinding in the opposite direction, but it feels completely different in reverse! It’s not that bad once you get the hang of it. Some of the sections are kind of fun.

I was able to turn some decent qualy laps after just a few minutes. I ended up with the exact same time as GrumpyOldMan. I bested the time after taking a short break and giving it a go before doing a race. At 1:43.0 now.
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Only did one race last night. Started P13 in a A+, A, & B mixed lobby. It was a clean race and relatively uneventful. I was happy with the results.
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I’ll probably continue to do some Race B’s this week. Hopefully I can get my DR back to 99% in B.

Interesting that driver King Ghidorah actually got his DR reduced after managing to win the race.

 

[dcalde78]

Sounds like you have more of a problem with the broken Gr4 BoP is rather than the ability to rent cars.... to which I'd agree.


I did forget about Autopolis, but my point still stands: they're limited to a few tracks. The SF cars around Spa would be glorious, especially with weather. Or any in-game tracks F1 races on, Brazil, RBR, Catalunya, Monza, etc.

They did do a Nations race at Deep Forest a while back, but it was obviously a one-off (and they may have been the SF19, I don't recall).

Well, BoP in general to be honest. Since it was introduced, the Mazda3 has been the Gr4 meta. Generally Gr3 has a different meta each week but you can have a good fight here and there between different cars but again, without the meta there's no chance of winning unless you're somehow dropped into a hugely under-levelled lobby for your ability. Tyre availability does make Gr3 a lot more varied (as I mention in my previous post, using the M3 for example as it's uncompetitive on hard tyres) but there are always cars that stand out as much better than the rest. I was really hoping for a big overhaul to BoP with Spec II but I suppose I shouldn't be surprised that nothing changed.

 

[mellofello9]

Interesting that driver King Ghidorah actually got his DR reduced after managing to win the race.

I don't know how that works. Had a race this weekend where the polesitter was the only A+ in the room. They had 1.5 sec on P2 for a QT. They won the race with a 12+ sec gap. They lost DR. Were they expected to win by MORE (say, 30 seconds or so) in order to not lose DR? Were they expected to lap the field in order to keep DR?

If someone can explain this to my obviously challenged brain, that'd be great. As it is, this simply does not compute, lol.

 

[TheNormsk]

I've been away from Sport mode for a couple/few weeks now. Been focusing on single player since 1.4 came out and letting my finger heal. What did I miss?

There is part of me that is thinking about just skipping sport for a while, while I complete everything on single player so my dashboard looks complete . I think part of it is that now I hit A, I don't feel like I would probably progress much further. I'm just not that good so the motivation has gone a bit...

Perhaps I just need to jump back in to get motivated again!

 

[NAXEHT]

I don't know how that works. Had a race this weekend where the polesitter was the only A+ in the room. They had 1.5 sec on P2 for a QT. They won the race with a 12+ sec gap. They lost DR. Were they expected to win by MORE (say, 30 seconds or so) in order to not lose DR? Were they expected to lap the field in order to keep DR?

If someone can explain this to my obviously challenged brain, that'd be great. As it is, this simply does not compute, lol.

That's a visual bug for A+, also noted in the known issues updated today.

Sport
　- In certain instances, the value of the Driver Rating (DR) can be seen going down even if this is not the case.

Known Issues [UPDATED: 7 Augest] - Information - Gran Turismo 7 - gran-turismo.com

The following is a list of known issues for Gran Turismo 7.Car Related　- Unable to apply Styles created with the following cars distributed to eligible players on 25 January 2024:　　・Genesis X Gran Berlinetta Vision Gran Turismo Concept　　・BVLGARI Aluminium Vision Gran TurismoTo avoid the above...

www.gran-turismo.com

For info, any A+, from 50,000 up to anything below the max 100,000 will gain DR with a win, even if the rest of the field are B and C, just that in such a case the gain will be absolutely microscopic (we're talking about 1-5 DR points and any potential 2nd place or worse will set you back several hundred or thousands depending on position.

 

[Moose78]

If someone can explain this to my obviously challenged brain, that'd be great. As it is, this simply does not compute, lol.

When @Famine shared the formula used to determine the transfer of DR points between players a few weeks ago, I remember noticing a quirk in the math where if the difference between the two players was big enough, the direction of the transfer would be reversed. The winner would give points to the loser. IIRC, the difference in DR level required for that to happen was massive, so I figured it was practically impossible. Maybe not. 🤷‍♂️

 

[newmedia_dev]

When @Famine shared the formula used to determine the transfer of DR points between players a few weeks ago, I remember noticing a quirk in the math where if the difference between the two players was big enough, the direction of the transfer would be reversed. The winner would give points to the loser. IIRC, the difference in DR level required for that to happen was massive, so I figured it was practically impossible. Maybe not. 🤷‍♂️

It's not a quirk in the math it's how ELO based systems work. The winner is always the one with the most to lose.

It's actually why it's used as it stops top ranked players farming a player or fields of players. It's a balancing mechanism.

When you think about it. The biggest points gains on a regular basis is just punching above your weight. The biggest points lost are punching under your weight.

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

There is part of me that is thinking about just skipping sport for a while, while I complete everything on single player so my dashboard looks complete . I think part of it is that now I hit A, I don't feel like I would probably progress much further. I'm just not that good so the motivation has gone a bit...

Perhaps I just need to jump back in to get motivated again!

Well, personally, I miss seeing you on my QT leaderboard. It feels strange without your name there.

And if you're not doing the races, how are you going to help test take advantage of the new GranTracker features I'm working on?

 

[TheNormsk]

Well, personally, I miss seeing you on my QT leaderboard. It feels strange without your name there.

And if you're not doing the races, how are you going to help test take advantage of the new GranTracker features I'm working on?

Ahh, thank you for missing me! That shines light in my narcissistic heart! Seriously though, I'll be back it is just that single player has become fun again and it's been a while and there is only so much time! Not all of us are retired yet! 5 more years my finance guy tells me.....

 

[icycls]

Ahh, thank you for missing me! That shines light in my narcissistic heart! Seriously though, I'll be back it is just that single player has become fun again and it's been a while and there is only so much time! Not all of us are retired yet! 5 more years my finance guy tells me.....

ehhh, you got all winter to do that single-player stuff (my approach). But I totally get burning out on sport, I'm occasionally there myself. Race B is Gr.3 on a reverse track that feels somewhat new. I'm actually liking it. Run a few QT laps and see how you fell about it.

 

[mellofello9]

Ahh, thank you for missing me! That shines light in my narcissistic heart! Seriously though, I'll be back it is just that single player has become fun again and it's been a while and there is only so much time! Not all of us are retired yet! 5 more years my finance guy tells me.....

I had just commented in the 'What did you do in GT7 today?' thread that they did an excellent job of pulling me back into the single player stuff with this last update. Soooo much to do yet...but I still need to go racin' with y'all. Not that I see anyone here on the track, lol. It's just that damn leaderboard.😁

It's not a quirk in the math it's how ELO based systems work. The winner is always the one with the most to lose.
It's actually why it's used as it stops top ranked players farming a player or fields of players. It's a balancing mechanism.

When you think about it. The biggest points gains on a regular basis is just punching above your weight. The biggest points lost are punching under your weight.

Check out the big brain on you! That makes sense and thank you for the explanation. That's a moment when I'm sure it'd be preferred to NOT have the up/down reference on the results page.🤣

 

[TechnoIsLove]

I started with the 911 and had to learn the track too. I’m pretty sure I’ve never done any laps on this layout. Done a million laps grinding in the opposite direction, but it feels completely different in reverse! It’s not that bad once you get the hang of it. Some of the sections are kind of fun.

I was able to turn some decent qualy laps after just a few minutes. I ended up with the exact same time as GrumpyOldMan. I bested the time after taking a short break and giving it a go before doing a race. At 1:43.0 now.
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Only did one race last night. Started P13 in a A+, A, & B mixed lobby. It was a clean race and relatively uneventful. I was happy with the results.
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I’ll probably continue to do some Race B’s this week. Hopefully I can get my DR back to 99% in B.

Try the M6, both Sprint and Endurance versions work well! I'm trading fastest laps with both, down to 1:42:5 now

 

[Nebuc72]

Try the M6, both Sprint and Endurance versions work well! I'm trading fastest laps with both, down to 1:42:5 now

Noted...

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

I'm liking the R.S.01 at Sardegna this week - I just love how well this car sticks to the track. Although I had to watch a leader's replay to understand why I was initially so slow with it. But I just knocked 3 tenths off my QT, getting into the 1:42's. And fortunately, I feel like there's more to gain, so "I got that goin' for me".

Just did a race in a mostly A/A+ lobby. Started P6, ended P5, so that went fairly well.

But I lost 20% in SR, and I sure do wish the game would tell you when you do something that costs you SR. I mean, I know I tangled with someone in one of the corners, but other than someone rear-ending me, I can't remember any other contact, and no penalties or off-roading. (The rear-ending was kind-of my fault, but I doubt the game understands that.)

Ahh, thank you for missing me! That shines light in my narcissistic heart!

Truthfully, I do enjoy our back-and-forth, both on the leaderboard and in messages here. And I often use your QT to help me get a better understanding of where mine fits in.

Not all of us are retired yet! 5 more years my finance guy tells me.....

5 more years is nothing! My retirement was early, and somewhat unexpected. I burned the last bridge at my job that I'd had since 2001, and decided to see if I could retire. I had just enough time in to qualify for retirement benefits at that job, so I waved my one-finger salute at the building as I drove away. I got another job for about 6 months, but I hated it, so I quit.

Then I discovered that even though I'm pretty good at what I do, I'm old and people don't hire old people. It was honestly a shock, because I've been at the top of my game for a long time. So I really did retire.

Here's a tip: Retirement is all it's cracked up to be, and more.

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Noted...

No! You stay away from my effin M6! You're already almost into the 1:40's 😂 😂 😂

 

[jrwilliam269]

Try the M6, both Sprint and Endurance versions work well! I'm trading fastest laps with both, down to 1:42:5 now

I agree the M6 is underrated and sometimes overlooked....it's usually stable and has gotten me a few wins at Watkins Glen because it doesn't chew up tires ....it's a good car to attempt a no stop strategy...

 

[TheNormsk]

Truthfully, I do enjoy our back-and-forth, both on the leaderboard and in messages here. And I often use your QT to help me get a better understanding of where mine fits in.

…

Here's a tip: Retirement is all it's cracked up to be, and more.

Some people say retirement is boring. I say, I’ve got so many things I want to do that I can’t get to, it can’t come soon enough! Hopefully it’ll work out where I can retire in my late 50s. 🙂

I took a look at B. Wow, I’ve never driven that layout before. I was terrible at it, but then I liked it and steadily improved. At first I was confused and was thinking it was the layout I stormed with the Genesis X that pushed me to high Bs. I loved that layout.

Eventually I started to find some flow. From 1:49s to 1:44s I progressed in the M6 endurance. Usually I like this car but today, with this track on RH I was not quite getting it. Why can’t this track be on RS. That would have been awesome.

I did get to the high 1:43s and then I decided to change car. I switched to the 458 as that drove well at Interlagos last week so I thought I’d try again. Immediately I took several tenths off and proceed to 1:43.273.

It was getting late but I’d found a groove and wanted to continue on so did. Had a lap that was on target for 1:42.8 and then stuffed it last corner At that I gave up and headed to bed.

So I’ve definitely got another 0.5 in me. I’ll admit I was racing with braking and line aids as I learned the track. Need to get runs in without those now before I contemplate a race.

Lots of new stuff in 1.4 and this feels like a whole new track, although one just seemingly lost and now found again.

I like it!

 

[GrumpyOldMan]

Hopefully it’ll work out where I can retire in my late 50s.

I think I was 59 when I retired.

I took a look at B. Wow, I’ve never driven that layout before. I was terrible at it, but then I liked it and steadily improved.

I was actually shocked at how quickly I learned it, although of course it'll take a while to learn all the nuances.

Immediately I took several tenths off and proceed to 1:43.273.

Awesome!

Had a lap that was on target for 1:42.8 and then stuffed it last corner

God I hate that. Along with the other dreaded thing: I finished a lap at a record pace for me, just as the timer finished counting down and the lobby opened. I looked at the recording, and I did indeed finish the race, but the time didn't register.

I’ll admit I was racing with braking and line aids as I learned the track.

I leave them on all the time. Although the braking areas on this track pretty-much suck, at least they flash at me so I don't forget where I am on the course.

Lots of new stuff in 1.4 and this feels like a whole new track, although one just seemingly lost and now found again.

I like it!

I agree about the course, but I haven't tried any of the single-player additions.

 

[CMB350]

Try the M6, both Sprint and Endurance versions work well! I'm trading fastest laps with both, down to 1:42:5 now

I tried it for a few laps last night. Couldn’t quite get the same corner exit smoothness as the Porsche. Jumped back in the Porsche and quickly found a 1:42.3

Are less people playing Race B this week? I’ve done 4 races now and every single race has been mixed lobby of A+, A, and B ranked drivers. I typically end up in 100% B/S lobbies.

 

[TheNormsk]

Are less people playing Race B this week? I’ve done 4 races now and every single race has been mixed lobby of A+, A, and B ranked drivers. I typically end up in 100% B/S lobbies.

I would argue that there is definitely a 1.4 effect. I believe a lot of people have transitioned to single player, like myself, as the dashboard now makes it easy to find the bits you haven’t done, so there’s motivation to finish it all.

 

[SupaflyIRL]

Speaking of old man ****, I'm hoping to hit the suzuka race hard this weekend because i'm getting a pain injection in my back this week. I've been playing sport mode like an F1 driver. Log in 15 minutes before Nations/Manufacturers quali to do some laps to loosen up my back and leg in the race practice time, quali, and hope to race once.

I know people are going to hit the Red Bull, Ferrari, and Merc liveries hard so I was thinking of using a McLaren or Alpha Tauri.

 

[mellofello9]

Sardegna A in reverse is freakin' awesome! Would it be better with RS? Probably, but it's been kinda fun trying to keep the back of the car slower than the front. 🤣

For some reason it feels particularly rewarding when you get a corner/exit just right. Hoping to get some consistency before going racing. Did a dozen or so laps yesterday and got myself down to a 1:42.9xx (911) but optimal was 1:42.3xx. Yeah, got some work to do there, lol.

Will have to take a swing at A just for the fun of it. The Tidgney video kinda sparked that interest as it looks like it MIGHT be fun. We'll see if other drivers want to race or Mario Kart it. C is going to be neat. I've not messed with the SF cars AT ALL so doubt I have ANY pace with 'em. Probably just run some q laps to acclimate and see where it goes.

 

[CMB350]

Speaking of old man ****, I'm hoping to hit the suzuka race hard this weekend…

Don’t we have Catalunya this weekend? Or is it Suzuka?