GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I'm just starting to track SR percentage in GranTracker (the update will be available "soon"), and SR percentage sure jumps around a lot:

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Some of it is because whenever you go up or down a letter, they make the difference greater than normal - at least, that's what they do with DR. But still, this shows how quickly the SR can change (which we already knew).

I'd love to see how much of a difference a CRB makes, but for me at least, RBR is a hard place to get a CRB.
 
shadow0460
You'll be running over kerbs at Eau de Rouge, Radillion, entering the Kemmel, possibly exiting the Kemmel as Les Combes, then again at Stavelot and Paul Friere. Softening up the bar means when the wheels on one side hit a curb, the wheel itself bounces. Stiffening the bar will lift both wheels and have a greater risk of lifting the car body. The lower you stay on the kerbs, the more speed and thus downforce you carry into any high speed section of the track. Higher downforce means a tiny bit lower profile, a tiny bit less drag, and, most importantly, the diffuser is more effective.
The speed benefit from the anti roll bar isn't much, but every bit counts with the 911.
Stuff suspension is great at Spa...when you have 1000+ downforce and can stay completely on the pavement. If you're cutting kerbs to carry speed, though, you need to loosen the suspension and in races where it's possible, install smaller diameter rims to help absorb the impact. If you're cutting kerbs in any rear wheel drive or mid-rear or rear engine car and have a diffuser, you must keep that diffuser planted.
Maybe the game doesn't take it this far, the only way to know is to try. For me it made an entire grid worth of difference. I'm not going to argue with consistent podium finishes.
I'm also better at modding and maintaining cars than I am driving them.
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I know how a roll bar work, I was mostly surprised hearing it made a difference in ride height. I checked, went into the track and parked at the same.place so I could see the car against the same amci and it was the same.
I know full well that you need a softer suspension to ride the kerbs and if you look again I didn't say anything abo6that. It was just the claim of less ride height I was surprised to see.
 
GrumpyOldMan
I'm just starting to track SR percentage in GranTracker (the update will be available "soon"), and SR percentage sure jumps around a lot:

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Some of it is because whenever you go up or down a letter, they make the difference greater than normal - at least, that's what they do with DR. But still, this shows how quickly the SR can change (which we already knew).

I'd love to see how much of a difference a CRB makes, but for me at least, RBR is a hard place to get a CRB.
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Yes, I agree because of the track limits. The first right turn is a prime example of what I mean, you can easily go out of bounds and end up getting a penalty.
 
Nebuc72
PD don't usually change the tyre a car comes with for Race A, so assuming it's a car with SS tyres stock it leaves;
The Lambo VGT
The Suzuki VGT
Aston Martin Valkyrie
& the Kart.

Quite frankly I hope it's none of those lol, but it's pretty likely.
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That's usually true indeed. It can happen sometimes, and they did it a few weeks ago, with the Diablo at Monza. It has SH tyres stock and they used SS for the race.
 
Chris30
Yes, I agree because of the track limits. The first right turn is a prime example of what I mean, you can easily go out of bounds and end up getting a penalty.
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The odd thing is, I've swung too wide - past the kerb - on that turn several times and not gotten a penalty. I'm not sure how it determines a penalty there.
 
GrumpyOldMan
I'm just starting to track SR percentage in GranTracker (the update will be available "soon"), and SR percentage sure jumps around a lot:

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Some of it is because whenever you go up or down a letter, they make the difference greater than normal - at least, that's what they do with DR. But still, this shows how quickly the SR can change (which we already knew).

I'd love to see how much of a difference a CRB makes, but for me at least, RBR is a hard place to get a CRB.
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The SR progression is weird indeed.
I'm normally S rated and for a couple of days I've been decreasing to A and B (...because retaliation).
Last night I had the B bar at 99% since I've been driving better. Just now I had a daily race, slightly touched (I mean it) a car and at the end of the race, in the car list, it said my SR rating decreased, while other people who bumped me the same exact way had their SR increase. What? Why? Other than that "brush" I constantly did brake in advance and swerve to prevent any SR deduction.
From 99% B to 30% B after one race.
I'll never get this.

They need to bring back the SR fluctuations in real time from GT Sport because I want know what I do wrong.

EDIT: Now I just had another one. I didn't bump any car, I didn't even put a single wheel on the grass or outside of the green area, and I still didn't get a CRB. How? I clearly remember forcefully pushing people in the past (retaliation) and still got the bonus. PD goes form one extreme to the other.
B up from 30 to 50%...

EDIT2: 3rd race... ok a 0.5s penalty for corner cutting won't lower the SR. It's something.
 
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What is wrong with some people.

I start on pole and for some unknown reason a German guy just keeps punting me, hey I don't mind where I finish all that much so just crack on.

Punt, let you back through dropping 7 places, act normal the next corner and then the one after that....bang.

I mean these are full speed rear ends or dives in to the side of me.

I just don't get it. Mate go forth and conquer I'll just do my laps if you don't mind!
 
hardvibes
The SR progression is weird indeed.
I'm normally S rated and for a couple of days I've been decreasing to A and B (...because retaliation).
Last night I had the B bar at 99% since I've been driving better. Just now I had a daily race, slightly touched (I mean it) a car and at the end of the race, in the car list, it said my SR rating decreased, while other people who bumped me the same exact way had their SR increase. What? Why? Other than that "brush" I constantly did brake in advance and swerve to prevent any SR deduction.
From 99% B to 30% B after one race.
I'll never get this.

They need to bring back the SR fluctuations in real time from GT Sport because I want know what I do wrong.

EDIT: Now I just had another one. I didn't bump any car, I didn't even put a single wheel on the grass or outside of the green area, and I still didn't get a CRB. How? I clearly remember forcefully pushing people in the past (retaliation) and still got the bonus. PD goes form one extreme to the other.
B up from 30 to 50%...

EDIT: ok a 0.5s penalty for corner cutting won't lower the SR. It's something.
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In this race, you can't get a CRB if you have a track limit penalty.
newmedia_dev
What is wrong with some people.

I start on pole and for some unknown reason a German guy just keeps punting me, hey I don't mind where I finish all that much so just crack on.

Punt, let you back through dropping 7 places, act normal the next corner and then the one after that....bang.

I mean these are full speed rear ends or dives in to the side of me.

I just don't get it. Mate go forth and conquer I'll just do my laps if you don't mind!
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I wonder if he has you confused with someone else. Or else maybe he thinks you did something to him in a previous race? Or is there something about your livery that might set him off?

I'm always trying to understand people's behavior, so I have a tendency of coming up with explanations that are improbable, at best.
 
GrumpyOldMan
In this race, you can't get a CRB if you have a track limit penalty.

I wonder if he has you confused with someone else. Or else maybe he thinks you did something to him in a previous race? Or is there something about your livery that might set him off?

I'm always trying to understand people's behavior, so I have a tendency of coming up with explanations that are improbable, at best.
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I'm in a Blue Oreo livery. Unless he doesn't like milk or is lactose intolerant maybe?

I've done about 30 races since Friday and had never met the guy.

And if is aggrieved by something from longer than that which is possible, it's a long time to hold a grudge for an online racing game.

Like I said I don't understand people sometimes.
 
GrumpyOldMan
In this race, you can't get a CRB if you have a track limit penalty.
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No no I was talking about another race. The one where I was hoping to get a CRB I received no penalties. I didn't put my wheels outside of the track and I didn't collide with any car. I'm thinking that someone was lagging, because I can't explain not receiving a CRB then.
newmedia_dev
What is wrong with some people.

I start on pole and for some unknown reason a German guy just keeps punting me, hey I don't mind where I finish all that much so just crack on.

Punt, let you back through dropping 7 places, act normal the next corner and then the one after that....bang.

I mean these are full speed rear ends or dives in to the side of me.

I just don't get it. Mate go forth and conquer I'll just do my laps if you don't mind!
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I wonder how players would drive if PD removed ALL national flags. Just saying.
 
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hardvibes
I wonder how players would drive if PD removed ALL national flags. Just saying
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I don't think it would be different, I said German in my post because I really couldn't remember the nuance of the PSN name made of numbers and letters.

I do think there is a bit of cultural influence. With other culture more used to shoving and beeping than others. Not a criticism more a reality it's just different mentalities and everyday driving experiences some people have over others.
 
newmedia_dev
I don't think it would be different, I said German in my post because I really couldn't remember the nuance of the PSN name made of numbers and letters.

I do think there is a bit of cultural influence. With other culture more used to shoving and beeping than others. Not a criticism more a reality it's just different mentalities and everyday driving experiences some people have over others.
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I didn't mean you. I meant him attacking your car.
I get bullied on track simply because I'm italian.
You can also read comments during and after races about players insulting someone else because of their nationality. After, of course, crashes between them occurred.
 
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hardvibes
I didn't mean you. I mean him attacking your car.
I get bullied on track simply because I'm italian.
You can also read comments during and after races about players insulting someone else because of their nationality. After, of course, crashers between them occurred.
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Sorry I took it slightly the wrong way.

But I think you are right, national flags don't need to feature in this as it serves no purpose.

The ghosts I chase for TT are the fastest ones not what flag they have.
 
newmedia_dev
Sorry I took it slightly the wrong way.

But I think you are right, national flags don't need to feature in this as it serves no purpose.

The ghosts I chase for TT are the fastest ones not what flag they have.
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Yeah, it has a purpose for nations and manufacturers cups (online/real events hosted by GT). But in the regular multiplayer races? It's a double edged sword:
-it amplifies the anger the dirty players have for some nationalities
-it helps creating friendships.

I try to never address the elephant in the room, but I think the national flags have lots of negative consequences online.
More negative than positive.
 
hardvibes
Yeah, it has a purpose for nations and manufacturers cups (online/real events hosted by GT). But in the regular multiplayer races? It's a double edged sword:
-it amplifies the anger the dirty players have for some nationalities
-it helps creating friendships.

I try to never address the elephant in the room, but I think the national flags have lots of negative consequences online.
More negative than positive.
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I would agree, probably a little less? Maybe in Europe but obviously still prevalent.

When you see the distain from others on the US side of things, yellow and green flags aren't what you want to have. I think that says a lot when some of the best drivers come from Brazil and Europe and APAC regions.
 
Did my first gr3 race today. Barely managed to get my QT under 20s so I was stsrting dead last. Managed to finish 12/16. On softs porsche was flying, I feel that I'm driving waaay below limit so maybe I'll get faster someday. Running on meds was pretty tricky, lost 2 positions due to my mistakes. So p10 was for grabs. Still my online racing suffers as I'm also trying to catch up with my single player content.
 
skandiamannen
17.5 quali in the Nissan at Spa now puts me in 7-9 on the starting grid in EU B lobbies. Done 4 races this week, all very clean and tidy. I've managed to climb in average 4 places due to my overcut strategy, unfortunately I suck at keeping the lap times when the tire get over the threshold, so all 4 races I could have been at podium if I only could figure out new breaking points as the RS tires goes below the 50% mark. So much to learn.

Now at 75% B level.

I love this game.
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After some mixed experiences and a downgrade to D/S a few weeks ago I used Race C at Spa to climb back to C/S again. It is my favourite track and the racing was intense and clean. Manufacturers Cup might bring me down again but there will always be another race at Spa to return... 😉 Today I even got my first triple: Pole Position, fastest lap in race and win. Time to move in to next week... Greetings!
 
Something very strange is going on with SR at RBR. First, here's my SR changes over the past 6 races, and although my program could have a bug, I don't think that's it (more on this in a moment):

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Notice the drop of -204%? I was SR S, and suddenly I was at the very bottom of SR B:

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(My program intentionally reports an empty progress bar as 1%, not 0%).

After the very next race, in which I drove like my grandmother was in the passenger seat, and I got a CRB:

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A jump of 132%, or something like that. Crazy, right?

So here's what I think happened, but only time will tell.

I suspect that when the game showed an empty SR progress bar for SR B, that was a bug. I suspect the game actually dropped me down to SR B at almost 100%, and the progress bar showed the wrong thing.

So let's say it dropped me to SR B around 99%, which would be a drop of something like 105% (which is possible, because it was a nasty, nasty race, and I got a 2 second penalty because someone hit me which caused me to hit the guy in front... you know the drill). Then my CRB on the next race would have gained me maybe 34%, which I think would make more sense than the huge number swings.

I'll be interested in seeing if anyone else sees something like this.

I think I liked it better when I couldn't see the SR percentage. :lol:
 
GrumpyOldMan
Something very strange is going on with SR at RBR. First, here's my SR changes over the past 6 races, and although my program could have a bug, I don't think that's it (more on this in a moment):

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Notice the drop of -204%? I was SR S, and suddenly I was at the very bottom of SR B:

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(My program intentionally reports an empty progress bar as 1%, not 0%).

After the very next race, in which I drove like my grandmother was in the passenger seat, and I got a CRB:

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A jump of 132%, or something like that. Crazy, right?

So here's what I think happened, but only time will tell.

I suspect that when the game showed an empty SR progress bar for SR B, that was a bug. I suspect the game actually dropped me down to SR B at almost 100%, and the progress bar showed the wrong thing.

So let's say it dropped me to SR B around 99%, which would be a drop of something like 105% (which is possible, because it was a nasty, nasty race, and I got a 2 second penalty because someone hit me which caused me to hit the guy in front... you know the drill). Then my CRB on the next race would have gained me maybe 34%, which I think would make more sense than the huge number swings.

I'll be interested in seeing if anyone else sees something like this.

I think I liked it better when I couldn't see the SR percentage. :lol:
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It's a display bug. At full SR S (Where I am pretty much exclusively located) it shows an empty bar.
 
GrumpyOldMan
The odd thing is, I've swung too wide - past the kerb - on that turn several times and not gotten a penalty. I'm not sure how it determines a penalty there.
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Not gonna bet YOUR race on it or anything, but, I think if you lift completely after crossing the kerb you can clear it w/out penalty. If I'm remembering right a quick blip is all it took. Of course, that also incites oversteer, so watch that.😁

That could've been a 'Sport thing, though. :cheers:
 

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