GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[NikNakTobasco]

1:29‘9 is a good lap time. I‘m not much faster although I’m consistently in the high 29s.
Of course with a lot of try harding I think I probably could get it to dip just below the '29 Mark but it wouldn’t represent my Natural Pace.

But only in the NSX, as I prefer it’s ability to rotate under Trail Braking because of its MR Layout.
The GTR to me feels more precise, a point and shoot Car, but not very entertaining to drive.
And yes I agree that doing lots of Time Trial gives you a good amount of familiarity after a while.
It’s always good to learn a specific Car/Track Combo in that regard.

Consistency is definitely a problem for me in general, especially in race. I feel the pressure more than I should. But hopefully just keep at it and I’ll get better. The NSX sounds like it might suit me more as well.

Just tried an A race. I made it from 12th to 3rd. my man @BenRod dominated.
Gonna try a B race next, with the Mustang. I like the Interlagos track, but I know Gr.3 races usually have a lot of pushing and shoving.
Which is fine. I operate with an "eye for an eye" mentality.

Interlagos is a pleasure at the moment. The penalty system works well for that track. Generally people seem to avoid the sort of crap we usually get there but one race today someone did the standard push to pass dive on the first sharp infield right (turn 5?) and got a nice and juicy 5 second penalty for his troubles.

 

[sturk0167]

What's with this new generation of racers?
Just got done with race B, where I started at the back, so I pretty much saw what happened to everyone.
7 people quit. They either got a penalty, spun out, or went off track, then quit immediately.

What a bunch of bitches!!! Are you there to race, or not?
It's not like the guy who wins is gonna run a perfect race.
Even if you screwed up a chance at a podium, set a new goal within the race. Try to get past the next car, or try for the fastest lap.
Don't just slam down the controller and run for your pacifier.

Sorry. There aren't any of these. Toughen up

 

[NikNakTobasco]

What's with this new generation of racers?
Just got done with race B, where I started at the back, so I pretty much saw what happened to everyone.
7 people quit. They either got a penalty, spun out, or went off track, then quit immediately.

What a bunch of bitches!!! Are you there to race, or not?
It's not like the guy who wins is gonna run a perfect race.
Even if you screwed up a chance at a podium, set a new goal within the race. Try to get past the next car, or try for the fastest lap.
Don't just slam down the controller and run for your pacifier.

Sorry. There aren't any of these. Toughen up

My goal lately in these tougher rooms is not to come last but with people quitting even if I come last I’m not last 😀. I guess those dive bombs are still too tempting that even a 5 second pen isn’t stopping them in some races

 

[Doctor X]

Had some really nice DS races on Race A today. Mostly good honest drivers which made it fun.

One incident did really annoy though and i am not sure how to deal with such a situation. It happened on the Suzuka hairpin where the guy behind came up on the inside at a pace he would have never made the corner then almost T-boned me to control his speed. As I corrected my position and tried to gain traction the guy just drove off. To my surprise there was no penalty (I never left track).

Is this the norm and is there anything to counter this behaviour? If I left track would he have got a penalty? Is there a tactic or strategy to deal with this?

 

[Roggers]

What's with this new generation of racers?
Just got done with race B, where I started at the back, so I pretty much saw what happened to everyone.
7 people quit. They either got a penalty, spun out, or went off track, then quit immediately.

What a bunch of bitches!!! Are you there to race, or not?
It's not like the guy who wins is gonna run a perfect race.
Even if you screwed up a chance at a podium, set a new goal within the race. Try to get past the next car, or try for the fastest lap.
Don't just slam down the controller and run for your pacifier.

Sorry. There aren't any of these. Toughen up

This is why I never quit a race. Yes as frustrating as it is been punted off by someone or spinning on your own, I never quit race. You can guarantee x amount of people will quit or other ahead of you will pick up penalties.
Fuji this week, on lap 1 I was running within the top 10 and got hit, spun out and dead last. Managed to work my way back up P6 with other rage quitting, driver penalties and I picked up a few places with the tyre penalty at the end of the race.

 

[Redneckchef]

I don't know that there is a real controller disadvantage in the slow turns through sector 3 at Fuji. I'm running just fine there in my Lexus and setting times right in the middle of my friends list with plenty of wheel drivers. I find that really having to know that sector is seemingly always dependant on the previous turn. Miss 1 and it seems to be 2 or 3 turns until you are back to the line.
Set a 30.7 for my Q time and even with the occasional garbage penalty I'm usually climbing plenty of places up the field by focusing on dead relentless consistency. And I'm being held up plenty of times by wheel users through sector 3 as I know some of the drivers. Previously it was the fast sweeping turns where controllers had some sort of disadvantage.

And staying in the race pays off as well. Had a terrible start for my first race there this week, got rammed off and got a penalty for my troubles, fought back, got another for someone turning in on me in the sweeper and then slowing down and also one who turned in to bounce off me as I slipstreamed past on the main straight. Still ended up p5 as the others all kept wrecking and a few got tire penalties. SR took a beating but I don't know what else I could have done in that one and still got a good result.

 

[crist shoe]

Daily Race B - Autodromo De Interlagos - Penalty Algorithm 05/05/22

I would love some point of view on the ones below
1)GT7 Autodromo De Interlagos Penalty Algorithm Rules

2)GT7 Autodromo De Interlagos - Penalty Algorithm vs Shameful Rammers

 

[Stilva]

Just 2 races this evening for me. I didn't improve my qualifying time any as I had a rough go in practice before had. Race 1 has me in a room full of all B ranked drivers which put me into P3. P2 spins out on lap 2 and I gain the spot. I couldn't catch P1 due to some mistakes by me. I also let off the gas on the end of lap 5 thinking the race was over. Oops... I get close on the last lap but I can't catch them and I finish P2 with the clean race bonus. My first podium finish in GT7 online racing.

Race 2 has me back in to a mixed A+/A/B lobby with a Twitch streamer. I'm down in P10 to start this one and it's more semi-clean racing with incidental contact as usual. I start pushing for no good reason and lose a bunch of spots. I do get up to P9 but the Twitch driver makes a lunge at turn 1 and there was tons of contact with others as I tried to avoid hitting them. They barely clip my front end and they get a 4 second penalty. But looking at the VOD, it was a weird lag spike or something that caused the mess. I don't know what happened. More mistakes and I lose spots back to P12 and the Twitch driver could have passed me on the straight on the last lap but didn't. The racing was fine despite my finish, but the mistakes added up and cost me time. Still a good time racing though. Really intense battles when I have them.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

Daily Race B - Autodromo De Interlagos - Penalty Algorithm 05/05/22

I would love some point of view on the ones below
1)GT7 Autodromo De Interlagos Penalty Algorithm Rules

2)GT7 Autodromo De Interlagos - Penalty Algorithm vs Shameful Rammers

First one, Kimse drives into you, the game notices contact.
Then Kimse gets passed by Christian, the game notices he lost a position.
Contact -> one car loses a position -> other car gets penalty.

The second clip just illustrates how pointless 1 and 2 sec penalties are. The game did see you get punted hence no wall penalty. No clue why the instigator's time didn't go up, it is flashing as if the game noticed a penalty there. With multiple cars involved it always gets more 'random', and using a car to punt another car off is sadly one of the dirty tricks to circumvent getting a penalty.

 

[Redneckchef]

Daily Race B - Autodromo De Interlagos - Penalty Algorithm 05/05/22

I would love some point of view on the ones below
1)GT7 Autodromo De Interlagos Penalty Algorithm Rules

2)GT7 Autodromo De Interlagos - Penalty Algorithm vs Shameful Rammers

First one is a usual problem, but not entirely your fault. Some contact was made during the pass. Intentional or not, it will count against you and mark you out as someone needing a penalty, especially if you are a higher DR than the other driver. I went back over a couple Fuji races the other day and found every time very incidental contact led to me getting a penalty, even if I was on the receiving end, I was a driver with a higher DR (A vs. B). I started noticing this as drivers were turning just enough to bump me as I went by, even on the straights, in hopes of getting me a penalty. Dirty little 🤬

The second one is just someone screwing up and launching the Beetle into you. Garbage happens and you can get better at avoiding it, but it's still going to happen sometimes.

And it's going to get worse. Was watching back someone's stream earlier as they had a few races with good GTP members and they were doing no qualifying runs from the back against much slower drivers. Complaining about the quality of driving. Yet I watched them bump drivers wide after making wild dives from 0.4 back or more. They (A+ rated) complained about B drivers braking early when it should be fairly apparent that a slower driver will have different braking points. They also tried stupid stuff like sending it 3 wide into Degner 1 and whined about there being no room despite at least 1 of the drivers backing out in desperation because it was a beyond stupid attempt. The driver who backed out got run wide afterwards because captain I-must-pass-now got loose when there was no room and slid into them.

This person does have a reasonable following and a lot of them seem to be in a cult mindset that this person's driving standards are something to admire, always blaming the other person when the streamer has an accident. Yet they wonder why the driving is becoming more aggressive. Time to start calling some of these people as he is ruining slower drivers races and blaming them for him being completely unprepared to race against people who don't drive like top split. The only thing it is going to encourage is for them to take it back to him. And the cycle perpetuates.

 

[crist shoe]

First one is a usual problem, but not entirely your fault. Some contact was made during the pass. Intentional or not, it will count against you and mark you out as someone needing a penalty, especially if you are a higher DR than the other driver. I went back over a couple Fuji races the other day and found every time very incidental contact led to me getting a penalty, even if I was on the receiving end, I was a driver with a higher DR (A vs. B). I started noticing this as drivers were turning just enough to bump me as I went by, even on the straights, in hopes of getting me a penalty. Dirty little 🤬

The second one is just someone screwing up and launching the Beetle into you. Garbage happens and you can get better at avoiding it, but it's still going to happen sometimes.

And it's going to get worse. Was watching back someone's stream earlier as they had a few races with good GTP members and they were doing no qualifying runs from the back against much slower drivers. Complaining about the quality of driving. Yet I watched them bump drivers wide after making wild dives from 0.4 back or more. They (A+ rated) complained about B drivers braking early when it should be fairly apparent that a slower driver will have different braking points. They also tried stupid stuff like sending it 3 wide into Degner 1 and whined about there being no room despite at least 1 of the drivers backing out in desperation because it was a beyond stupid attempt. The driver who backed out got run wide afterwards because captain I-must-pass-now got loose when there was no room and slid into them.

This person does have a reasonable following and a lot of them seem to be in a cult mindset that this person's driving standards are something to admire, always blaming the other person when the streamer has an accident. Yet they wonder why the driving is becoming more aggressive. Time to start calling some of these people as he is ruining slower drivers races and blaming them for him being completely unprepared to race against people who don't drive like top split. The only thing it is going to encourage is for them to take it back to him. And the cycle perpetuates.

thanks for your time . The only problem i see on the above videos is the penalty algorith and as you said some doing it on purpose.
lets say a turn needs 70km/h to take over. some press the brakes hard when you are to close and there you go.penalty should not occur there. anyway! thanks again !!!
I love that people are here supporting each thread. cheers mate!

 

[BigSarj]

First one is a usual problem, but not entirely your fault. Some contact was made during the pass. Intentional or not, it will count against you and mark you out as someone needing a penalty, especially if you are a higher DR than the other driver. I went back over a couple Fuji races the other day and found every time very incidental contact led to me getting a penalty, even if I was on the receiving end, I was a driver with a higher DR (A vs. B). I started noticing this as drivers were turning just enough to bump me as I went by, even on the straights, in hopes of getting me a penalty. Dirty little 🤬

The second one is just someone screwing up and launching the Beetle into you. Garbage happens and you can get better at avoiding it, but it's still going to happen sometimes.

And it's going to get worse. Was watching back someone's stream earlier as they had a few races with good GTP members and they were doing no qualifying runs from the back against much slower drivers. Complaining about the quality of driving. Yet I watched them bump drivers wide after making wild dives from 0.4 back or more. They (A+ rated) complained about B drivers braking early when it should be fairly apparent that a slower driver will have different braking points. They also tried stupid stuff like sending it 3 wide into Degner 1 and whined about there being no room despite at least 1 of the drivers backing out in desperation because it was a beyond stupid attempt. The driver who backed out got run wide afterwards because captain I-must-pass-now got loose when there was no room and slid into them.

This person does have a reasonable following and a lot of them seem to be in a cult mindset that this person's driving standards are something to admire, always blaming the other person when the streamer has an accident. Yet they wonder why the driving is becoming more aggressive. Time to start calling some of these people as he is ruining slower drivers races and blaming them for him being completely unprepared to race against people who don't drive like top split. The only thing it is going to encourage is for them to take it back to him. And the cycle perpetuates.

Lol I had a streamer comment on my early braking at Dunlop chicane but I was just trying to let the man pass. I watched the delta go from -6 seconds to him being on my tail in less than three laps. Why would I battle? I don't even know why he would be behind me. Plus he was on softs. Leave me alone, I'm a DR B.

 

[crist shoe]

First one, Kimse drives into you, the game notices contact.
Then Kimse gets passed by Christian, the game notices he lost a position.
Contact -> one car loses a position -> other car gets penalty.

The second clip just illustrates how pointless 1 and 2 sec penalties are. The game did see you get punted hence no wall penalty. No clue why the instigator's time didn't go up, it is flashing as if the game noticed a penalty there. With multiple cars involved it always gets more 'random', and using a car to punt another car off is sadly one of the dirty tricks to circumvent getting a penalty.

Contact -> one car loses a position -> other car gets penalty.

brilliant! so hot atm ahahahaha

 

[NikNakTobasco]

Was watching back someone's stream earlier as they had a few races with good GTP members and they were doing no qualifying runs from the back against much slower drivers. Complaining about the quality of driving. Yet I watched them bump drivers wide after making wild dives from 0.4 back or more

I watched a stream if someone doing the exact same thing. They also had 3 or 4 other world class drivers around them doing the ‘last to first’ challenge. I felt sorry for the people that genuinely were racing at the back. They pushed them and bullied them and rammed them but have the skill to get away with it. Also complaining that people dare fight for 9th position or whatever. They don’t realise that for some of us getting top half in a higher lobby is a great result! Do they think we all just drive around in a procession at the back because we aren’t worthy to have proper racing.

 

[Dirty dan 69]

They let you rent a car for race C but they give you the wrong tires so you get a 1 minute penalty at the very end… great time for me going from pole position to 10th

 

[Mercia]

They (A+ rated) complained about B drivers braking early when it should be fairly apparent that a slower driver will have different braking points. They also tried stupid stuff like sending it 3 wide into Degner 1 and whined about there being no room despite at least 1 of the drivers backing out in desperation because it was a beyond stupid attempt. The driver who backed out got run wide afterwards because captain I-must-pass-now got loose when there was no room and slid into them.

Also complaining that people dare fight for 9th position or whatever. They don’t realise that for some of us getting top half in a higher lobby is a great result! Do they think we all just drive around in a procession at the back because we aren’t worthy to have proper racing.

100% on this, if it's early enough in a race I'll let a faster driver through as fighting them hurts my own pace but later on when positions are cementing, damn right I'm entitled to fight for whatever spot I have whether a faster driver thinks it's important or not. It's up to the driver behind to pass cleanly, there's no blue flags just because they happen to be faster in time trial.

There's a lot of entitlement in the mindsets of these types of drivers and they are most likely to cause accidents trying to force people out of the way instead of showing proper racecraft and awareness of the on-track situation.

 

[fmq75]

Anyone tried the F1?Is it worth and/or competitive?

 

[D_Dragline]

First one is a usual problem, but not entirely your fault. Some contact was made during the pass. Intentional or not, it will count against you and mark you out as someone needing a penalty, especially if you are a higher DR than the other driver. I went back over a couple Fuji races the other day and found every time very incidental contact led to me getting a penalty, even if I was on the receiving end, I was a driver with a higher DR (A vs. B). I started noticing this as drivers were turning just enough to bump me as I went by, even on the straights, in hopes of getting me a penalty. Dirty little 🤬

The second one is just someone screwing up and launching the Beetle into you. Garbage happens and you can get better at avoiding it, but it's still going to happen sometimes.

And it's going to get worse. Was watching back someone's stream earlier as they had a few races with good GTP members and they were doing no qualifying runs from the back against much slower drivers. Complaining about the quality of driving. Yet I watched them bump drivers wide after making wild dives from 0.4 back or more. They (A+ rated) complained about B drivers braking early when it should be fairly apparent that a slower driver will have different braking points. They also tried stupid stuff like sending it 3 wide into Degner 1 and whined about there being no room despite at least 1 of the drivers backing out in desperation because it was a beyond stupid attempt. The driver who backed out got run wide afterwards because captain I-must-pass-now got loose when there was no room and slid into them.

This person does have a reasonable following and a lot of them seem to be in a cult mindset that this person's driving standards are something to admire, always blaming the other person when the streamer has an accident. Yet they wonder why the driving is becoming more aggressive. Time to start calling some of these people as he is ruining slower drivers races and blaming them for him being completely unprepared to race against people who don't drive like top split. The only thing it is going to encourage is for them to take it back to him. And the cycle perpetuates.

I absolutely detest this mindset. I have been guilty of a few rear ends at Fuji this week at turn 3 because some high qualifiers seem to brake way too much BUT, that’s my fault not theirs. If I don’t want to have to slow down there on lap 1 then I need to qualify higher.

It permeates down the ratings as well. I had a B rated driver who was doing a one stop push to pass me because he was on softs and “faster”. Odds on he watches these streamers do it.

Mate, I know what strat you’re on and I’ll get out of your way as soon as there’s a chance because you literally can’t beat me with that strat. No need to lunge and push me off at turn 1.

 

[permaculture]

was checking out the trophies today and noticed an interesting set of numbers-

something like 26% have finished the Menus/triggered the finale - but something like 11% have raced in sport mode. only 1.2% have completed 50 races.

i'm curious if people think that those ratios will stay the same, or if players will gradually move to sport mode as they complete the menus. i don't think 11% using sport mode is necessarily strange this early, but more the fact that 15% of users played the game the whole way through and either moved on or are treading water in scapes/offline/etc. i've spent a lot of time upgrading cars for the various offline races, but i doubt i would be sticking with the game if i didn't enjoy Sport.

 

[ASH32]

or if players will gradually move to sport mode as they complete the menus

This applies to me, can't speak for anyone else. I'll probably end up moving over to Sport mode before I've completed all of the menus but we will see.

 

[Talon16]

Bought the Beetle yesterday in an attempt to improve my quali time over what I had done in the Mustang, but I was unable to. Drove the Beetle in like three races and wasn't able to win any of them; best spot was a P2. One of those P2s the winner was in the Hyundai and put in the chat it was pretty good. So, I was on a mission to win one in it as I was sick of the stupid Beetle.

Tried it out and ended up besting my quali time! 1:32.8X (don't laugh). But I couldn't win with it. Gave it a few tries and was struggling. It was me and not the car. Plus, some of the races I am in (as a B|S) I was going up against A & A+ drivers so it was rough. I did start behind, but finish ahead of an A+ driver though.

So, back in the Mustang I went. First race out, P1!

Now that I got that monkey off my back, decided to give the Hyundai another go as I was determined to get a P1 with it. Ran some more quali laps and tried some different gears to be in at certain spots. Yadda yadda yadda, jumped in a race with it and got the win! Yes! Now I can mark that car off my list of cars to win with.

 

[timekiller001]

Sport mode is the only thing that keeps me playing it. The singleplayer is just too bareboned to enjoy for a longer time, and I'm not the person to do the races over and over again just to try out different cars.

 

[diablopug]

I've only done a handful of races in sport mode as I'd like to 'Try' to complete all the single race bits. Never managed it in GTsport as became a boring tick box. Plus the fact the Penalty system is flawed and makes it frustrating and probably end up not enjoyable. One thing I find is ACC has a much better radar system. Easier to judge where other cars are.

 

[Talon16]

I've only done a handful of races in sport mode as I'd like to 'Try' to complete all the single race bits. Never managed it in GTsport as became a boring tick box. Plus the fact the Penalty system is flawed and makes it frustrating and probably end up not enjoyable. One thing I find is ACC has a much better radar system. Easier to judge where other cars are.

The radar system in ACC is fantastic. Why GT can't implement a better way to know where other cars are is beyond me; a better radar system is required. And it needs to always be available, not one of the options as if I am messing with settings I can't see the radar. The radar is more important than the track map in the upper right, IMO. I've complained about this before, so I digress.

 

[diablopug]

Yes it is miles better. Your eyes are still concentrated on what's ahead, the 'spotter' as radar are easier/helpful as your able to work out how much room you have. I always use Cockpit view. (Does need the adjustment back like GTsport) So trying to work out exactly where the other driver is, isn't always easy without taking your eye off to look to the radar in bottom corner. You are 2nd guessing. Definitely do enjoy racing in ACC more but GTS/GT7 does have some enjoyment still.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

was checking out the trophies today and noticed an interesting set of numbers-

something like 26% have finished the Menus/triggered the finale - but something like 11% have raced in sport mode. only 1.2% have completed 50 races.

i'm curious if people think that those ratios will stay the same, or if players will gradually move to sport mode as they complete the menus. i don't think 11% using sport mode is necessarily strange this early, but more the fact that 15% of users played the game the whole way through and either moved on or are treading water in scapes/offline/etc. i've spent a lot of time upgrading cars for the various offline races, but i doubt i would be sticking with the game if i didn't enjoy Sport.

Looking at KP only 2% of players have done more than 10 sport races over GT Sport's lifetime.
That 11% is more likely to go down over time than up. The hardcore racing crowd jumps in first.

And it's still only 7% of current active players of GT Sport that play in sport mode. It was closer to 10% before GT7 came out so sport mode is dying faster than the rest of the game (daily races haven't changed since April 1st). GT Sport also had a much better lobby system. A lot of people avoid competitive online and just go for online lobbies.

 

[Gomario JSP]

I've done quite a few laps at Interlagos the past few days.
Sometimes the system works pretty well, but sometimes it's so frustrating that people don't get punished.
Today on the second straight I drive exactly as fast as someone else, who then drives me full into the wall on purpose, no penalty.
and I gently bump into someone who brakes very excessively in the corner where you least expect it and get several seconds penalty.
I'd say I'm an average rider, my qualifying time at Interlagos was 132,930 with the Beetle, and I make quite a few mistakes too, but it's quite frustrating at times!

I have plenty of things to work on myself haha
Otherwise a great form of online racing!, I love it

 

[pumaATTACK]

was checking out the trophies today and noticed an interesting set of numbers-

something like 26% have finished the Menus/triggered the finale - but something like 11% have raced in sport mode. only 1.2% have completed 50 races.

i'm curious if people think that those ratios will stay the same, or if players will gradually move to sport mode as they complete the menus. i don't think 11% using sport mode is necessarily strange this early, but more the fact that 15% of users played the game the whole way through and either moved on or are treading water in scapes/offline/etc. i've spent a lot of time upgrading cars for the various offline races, but i doubt i would be sticking with the game if i didn't enjoy Sport.

I did all the menus. Tried a few sport races and haven’t enjoyed them.

I have basically stopped playing the game after menu 39.

Sport mode is boring so far and they made it have less features than GT7.

 

[Gomario JSP]

was checking out the trophies today and noticed an interesting set of numbers-

something like 26% have finished the Menus/triggered the finale - but something like 11% have raced in sport mode. only 1.2% have completed 50 races.

i'm curious if people think that those ratios will stay the same, or if players will gradually move to sport mode as they complete the menus. i don't think 11% using sport mode is necessarily strange this early, but more the fact that 15% of users played the game the whole way through and either moved on or are treading water in scapes/offline/etc. i've spent a lot of time upgrading cars for the various offline races, but i doubt i would be sticking with the game if i didn't enjoy Sport.

I just did all the menubooks first, then alle the missions, then all the offline races, then around 75% of the circuit experience before i was a bit tires of the CE's, then all the scapes en other trophy's for the platinum one. ( accept for the two LM cars )
Now since a week or two full on into sport mode, the CE's do help alot with those,
i haven't played alot of online with GT sport, so there is alot to learn for me here and i my opinion right now a really fun part of GT7

 

[fmq75]

Yes it is miles better. Your eyes are still concentrated on what's ahead, the 'spotter' as radar are easier/helpful as your able to work out how much room you have. I always use Cockpit view. (Does need the adjustment back like GTsport) So trying to work out exactly where the other driver is, isn't always easy without taking your eye off to look to the radar in bottom corner. You are 2nd guessing. Definitely do enjoy racing in ACC more but GTS/GT7 does have some enjoyment still.

Does GT Sport have more options to edit the cockpit view?It‘s laughable how it is currently.The sliders do almost nothing and most often it feels more like driving from the backseat.ACC is lightyears ahead in this regard (SO much fun to use cockpits).Would love to drive cockpit but prefer bumper cam here.