GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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Been enjoying the races this week, mainly A though the car can behave a little random sometimes. Question, during the qualifying time trial why do they insist on giving a slow down penalty instead of invalidating your lap? On tracks where the slow down is on the pit straight, that messes your next lap too. It's really annoying having to reset instead of continuing - it breaks rhythm, changes the weather (sunny/cloudy) and I lose my sector time data for that session. Really annoying.
 
NevilleNobody
This was my reaction, "tapped the quarter panel and he slot in right behind" .... he slot in right behind because because you nerfed him outta the way.
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Yeah, I mean if real life is the target there then there should be no contact at all even if it’s ‘just a tap’. I get penalties can be frustrating especially if they’re handed out when no one was hindered but from the description it sounds like an overtake into a gap that wasn’t there and couldn’t have been made without contact. A common tactic at the moment though is for the lead car to deliberately turn in on someone to force contact then concede position knowing it will give a penalty to the overtaker. Thats why a video would have been good. I wouldn’t have mentioned it but they said they had ‘video evidence’. Made sense to show it.
 
I just regard Interlagos as a no pass zone unless the driver in front makes a significant error. Exceptions are turn 1 and turn 3. The rest are nothing but trouble and either result in contact or slowing us both down or both. The last turn, dumbest place on earth to pass as it hinders us both. Line me up for T1.
 
So two races today one in daily race A and I got a podium due to people forgetting that required tyre rule must be used during the race in race c
 
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speeeyskells
So two races today one in daily race A and I got a podium due to people forgetting that required tyre rule must be used during the race in race c
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Yeah my first race yesterday, I didn't even realize you could qualify in soft tyres, so I was 2 secs off the pole time. All the way down in 15th I just kept pluggin away and saw loads of people pit with softs on thinking huh? Ended up 3rd, could have won the race in fact if not for a 0.5 sec penalty and a spin. But yeah, it seems people are qualifying with their softs on after entering the race, then forgetting to change them in the warm up. Oh well, free positions are always welcome.
 
Bosso
Yeah my first race yesterday, I didn't even realize you could qualify in soft tyres, so I was 2 secs off the pole time. All the way down in 15th I just kept pluggin away and saw loads of people pit with softs on thinking huh? Ended up 3rd, could have won the race in fact if not for a 0.5 sec penalty and a spin. But yeah, it seems people are qualifying with their softs on after entering the race, then forgetting to change them in the warm up. Oh well, free positions are always welcome.
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I wondered why I was 2 seconds off the guy on pole, just went with RH. Only using the Corvette 'gift' car, but got the Nissan GTR earlier today from daily gift. 1st decent one in ages. So will try that after work later. Don't want to spend my credits unless I really have to.
 
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xMAXIx79
Nothing is perfect... and nothing is easy. But is it fair when I brake normally for a corner, my rear man slams into my rear, shoots me out, I crash head-on into a ledge and get stuck in the gravel bed, my vehicle is damaged front, rear and engine. It takes me at least 10 seconds if not more to even get back on track.. and another X seconds where I crawl like a snail over the asphalt. Loss of time at least 30 to 45 seconds in the worst case.
And what does the one who messed up my race with this violence get? 5 seconds when it comes up? It can't be THAT either.
So it is sometimes more lucrative to take a faster driver out of the game with such an action in order to have a chance of winning yourself. AND YES, there is such a thing and it happened to me again yesterday in Fuji.
I've had pole in all my races, but in one race the driver who started 2nd thought he was doing something like that. I had a qualifying time better by almost 3 seconds... whether he just hadn't practiced much or whether that was his maximum... doesn't matter and can't be checked, but it was noticeable. I ended up with 8... Is THAT fair?
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No. But two wrongs doesn't make a right.
The penalty system can't adjust to everything, and the problem in your case isn't the system it's the driver
 
NevilleNobody
Able t get a lot of cars in the 33's in Race B, fastest was the Jag with a 33.4. My issue is TC, it is IMPOSSIBLE to drive this track with TC, it cuts in ridiculously intrusively at both the last corner and especially the exit of the senna S. It's absolutely ridiculous that TC1 is so monumentally intrusive. WHat's the point of TC if the lowest setting cuts your lap time by 2 seconds?

I managed to set qualifying laps with no TC but in a race, I absolutely hate driving on egg shells, garbage experience.
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Open your steering and the TCS doesn't cut in. It's controlled by steering angle
 
Lots of race B.

Some very good, clean racing. A couple of bizarre penalties but nothing I'm not used to by now.

No wins, lots of top 5 finishes and a 2nd place here and there.

Due to the lack of Sport stats available (we can only see wins and fastest laps) I find that if I'm not in a reasonable position to challenge for the podium (sometimes I still can't be arsed) then I play it super safe as what's the point in risking ruining others races and my safety rating into the bargain?
 
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Did several more race C's today, and was really happy with it!
Was in the same room as Kie25 with his second account, and also PX7-Aura, one of the top split drivers.
I was actually able to fight them, although only because I had a tire advantage :D

Did two races here, the first fully on mediums and the second one on softs with a last lap pit stop for mediums. I actually had the same end time in both (18:27), but I feel more confident with the softs. I need to practice how to get the maximum out of the mediums, I think that's where I'm still losing time.
First race starts right away, second one starts at 30:00
 
Race C is my jam. Been a while since I raced online so I was rusty and a little nervous but my results were 8th, 13th, and 3rd. There were some incidents at T1 that really effected my results but the racing was generally great.

I wish there was more pit strategy but I think maybe @timekiller001 may be onto something with the starting softs. But I don't know, maybe if there were more laps it would make it more worthwhile
 
The wheel advantage at Race C is evident this week. Forget trying to be competitive on a controller, +10 steering, no assists & still don't have enough steering angle to compete with the wheel guys in sector 3, they have free bundles of time in hand over us.

Honestly wish they'd split by hardware, or at the very least put a controller/wheel icon next to our names so I can focus on winning the other controller battles & ignore wheel users.
 
Is anyone else getting an “unexpected error” every time they try to race B?I haven’t been able to play sport mode in two days now.
 
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Ponied up my credits and bought the Mustang so I could stick my custom livery on it. I want to look good racing around Interlagos. Now, both of my races tonight were in mixed A/B lobbies. Either I'm close to A rank or the race isn't that popular in the Americas.

Race 1 I start P10 and it wasn't that eventful. I gained 2 spots up to P8 for drivers spinning and going off track. I couldn't catch P7 as I didn't get my lines right a few times and they pull away. Still a decent result for me with the clean race bonus.

Race 2 I'm in P12 and things are chaos from the jump. Tight pack racing in the back and I'm doing my best not to get into the back of people. Some incidental contact with the pack I was in but it wasn't enough to interrupt racing. I'm in P10 and I miss the breaking point for turn 8 and get out of the way and fall to P14. I fight my way back up to P10 in the end in a very entertaining race.
 
RavenR
The wheel advantage at Race C is evident this week. Forget trying to be competitive on a controller, +10 steering, no assists & still don't have enough steering angle to compete with the wheel guys in sector 3, they have free bundles of time in hand over us.

Honestly wish they'd split by hardware, or at the very least put a controller/wheel icon next to our names so I can focus on winning the other controller battles & ignore wheel users.
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Yeah I know, they gain about 1.5 secs in that sector alone with wheel but still it's a fun track with the Nismo. Unfortunately there are ways around the wheel/controller input that people can abuse. Some people on console Call Of Duty use a piece of software that tricks the servers into thinking they use a controller rather than a mouse. Obviously a mouse is far better than a controller for accuracy - just like controller vs wheel. As for the icons, not much point really - it's obvious who have the wheels/controllers and who don't based on their driving.
 
Bosso
it's obvious who have the wheels
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Often, yes, but I've seen some clips of some controller users from GTPlanet who range from DR B to A+ who are very smooth with their inputs so it's not quite obvious. Maybe in cockpit view, though.
 
Bosso
Yeah I know, they gain about 1.5 secs in that sector alone with wheel but still it's a fun track with the Nismo. Unfortunately there are ways around the wheel/controller input that people can abuse. Some people on console Call Of Duty use a piece of software that tricks the servers into thinking they use a controller rather than a mouse. Obviously a mouse is far better than a controller for accuracy - just like controller vs wheel. As for the icons, not much point really - it's obvious who have the wheels/controllers and who don't based on their driving.
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True, & I'm enjoying Race C this week at a track that I've historically been terrible at, I think it's just because I love racing Gr2 or higher. I honestly get so bored with Gr3/4, always preferred gr1.

I just know that I cannot compete with the top tier wheel guys in my lobbies... especially not on mediums no-stop. The car feels an absolute DOG on mediums, like trying to steer a ship.
So I immediately dump them, take the pit stop loss & switch to softs for a bit more of a racey, fun go around. Even with softs I can't steer as well on the controller as they do on mediums in sector 3, it's actually hilarious.

My qually atm is a 1:30.4 with a "potential best lap" of 1:29.9

I do a 20.1 in that first sector, & usually set purple sectors a few times in the race even against those same wheel guys when they're running softs (not often)...but in the final sector I lose more than a second haha.

I agree also with the inputs thing... even if there were restrictions people would find a way to cheat & abuse it, because they care more about being perceived to be "the best" even if it means they're playing with an unfair advantage. It's good I'm not a developer, I'd just ban people forever who abused those kind of measures & take the financial loss/negative press.

Some tracks feels worse than others, Monza doesn't feel like I lose as much time from the pure hardware advantage, but Lago maggiore or whatever it is, forget it, that ones horrible.
 
Not a whole ton today. Tried a B in the Corvette. Started on pole, went wide at T4 and lost a couple of places. Then got spun by someone so that didn't work out very well. Tried again in the Porsche. Started on pole again but couldn't hold off a Beetle on the straights. The Porsche was just too slow and on lap 3 he got me. Going down the front straight I really pushed him to the inside; he was going to have to work for it. But he went there and at the last second I went back to the outside for the racing line but he made it stick. Fair play to him; I finished 2nd.

Then tried a C race but didn't have a lot of time for quali, and it showed. Started in like P12 or something. After driving nothing but Gr3 cars for the past couple of weeks (RBRing and then 1P), the Gr2 are going to take some getting used to. Made my way up to like P7 before getting PIT maneuvered.

Figured I'd give B another try in a car I knew did well there: Mustang. The Beetle may be the META of Brazil, but the Mustang shouldn't be overlooked IMO. Anyway, started on pole and won. Pretty uneventful as I started to gap P2 pretty much right away and then there was quite a bit of scrapping behind which helped a lot.

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RavenR
True, & I'm enjoying Race C this week at a track that I've historically been terrible at, I think it's just because I love racing Gr2 or higher. I honestly get so bored with Gr3/4, always preferred gr1.

I just know that I cannot compete with the top tier wheel guys in my lobbies... especially not on mediums no-stop. The car feels an absolute DOG on mediums, like trying to steer a ship.
So I immediately dump them, take the pit stop loss & switch to softs for a bit more of a racey, fun go around. Even with softs I can't steer as well on the controller as they do on mediums in sector 3, it's actually hilarious.

My qually atm is a 1:30.4 with a "potential best lap" of 1:29.9

I do a 20.1 in that first sector, & usually set purple sectors a few times in the race even against those same wheel guys when they're running softs (not often)...but in the final sector I lose more than a second haha.

I agree also with the inputs thing... even if there were restrictions people would find a way to cheat & abuse it, because they care more about being perceived to be "the best" even if it means they're playing with an unfair advantage. It's good I'm not a developer, I'd just ban people forever who abused those kind of measures & take the financial loss/negative press.

Some tracks feels worse than others, Monza doesn't feel like I lose as much time from the pure hardware advantage, but Lago maggiore or whatever it is, forget it, that ones horrible.
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I thought it was me. I use a controller and have issues navigating certain corners, an issue i did not have in GTS.
the last section at Fuji I was always very good at in GTS but in GT7 it is a struggle to get through it.
Same with some corners at Interlagos. The first corner at Spa requires me to rotate my thumb halveway around the corner otherwise i can not make it.
Odd thing is that the PS5 controller is supposed to be almost as good as a wheel i was told....
 
NevilleNobody
I just cannot enjoy the racing with tc the way it is. I am nervous and too cautious on the and tc1 is insanely intrusive. They gotta fix this, I'm in no man's land.
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Please don't be angry with me.. but if TCS 1 restricts you sooooo much, then you should reconsider/optimize your driving style in terms of steering and accelerator pedal. TCS intervenes when your steering angle is too high in relation to the accelerator pedal. So either you have to steer less OR accelerate a little... THAT only works if your driving style works without some rotation of your car.. However, if you need some rotation in the vehicle.. which is also necessary for real top times, then you have to necessarily drive without TCS. This is also quite normal, because when the vehicle rotates, the adhesion of the tires decreases and that is exactly what TCS is supposed to avoid... so it works as it should.

On the subject,
I'm really enjoying the races in C this week... it's a lot of fun to play with the strategy. However, I have to work on my Racecraft urgently, I make too many stupid mistakes where I want to force/latch an overtake too early and my front man, as a result, can close the door.. what follows, I can no longer brake enough and collect a penalty or fly off the track. Ironing out quite a few driving mistakes and I can finish first place more often. When the races are fair, I consistently finish on the podium, which is okay.
 
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xMAXIx79
On the subject,
I'm really enjoying the races in C this week... it's a lot of fun to play with the strategy. However, I have to work on my Racecraft urgently, I make too many stupid mistakes where I want to force/latch an overtake too early and my front man, as a result, can close the door.. what follows, I can no longer brake enough and collect a penalty or fly off the track. Ironing out quite a few driving mistakes and I can finish first place more often. When the races are fair, I consistently finish on the podium, which is okay.
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Fuji is also a wide open space, subsequently very windy track (I drive in cockpit all the time and you can hear it whistling and hammering the windshield) and it definitely throws off braking points at times, and combined with airflow from traffic it can be tricky to be consistent.

Brake early, give space, let the others make mistakes.

Great track though, loving this combo.
 
MCL1974
I thought it was me. I use a controller and have issues navigating certain corners, an issue i did not have in GTS.
the last section at Fuji I was always very good at in GTS but in GT7 it is a struggle to get through it.
Same with some corners at Interlagos. The first corner at Spa requires me to rotate my thumb halveway around the corner otherwise i can not make it.
Odd thing is that the PS5 controller is supposed to be almost as good as a wheel i was told....
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Are you going back and forth with a wheel to compare? I’m sure wheel users are struggling with some sections too. There’s a ton of pad players that compete in top split.
 
only managed one Race C yesterday, started in 11th and managed to work upto 7th then 2 drivers ruin my race...on lap 2 Aiksa was ahead and at the end of the main straight kept swerving in front of me to prevent an overtake (racing for 6th place) and then swerves in front of me and brake checks me...a slow 40mph tap cos i couldnt go anywhere else and i get a 2 sec penalty...then BenJovi decides to dive bomb 4 cars at the small hairpin and used my car as a brake, punting me off track and down to 12th....ultimately finished last as everyone sailed past me
 
NikNakTobasco
Are you going back and forth with a wheel to compare? I’m sure wheel users are struggling with some sections too. There’s a ton of pad players that compete in top split.
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no, don't have a wheel. And i am not comparing myself to a wheel users or using it as an excuse that i am slower.
I have made the decision myself (lack of space) not to get a wheel and i know am relatively slow....can live with that.
What i am saying is that the controller does not seem to allow me to rotate around a sharp corner in the same way as in GTS. Had no issues there with the final section at Fuji or the first corner at Spa.
I just find it a bit odd that i have to push and rotate my thumb in order for the car to make a corner sometimes. Might well be my lack of skills though....
 
MCL1974
no, don't have a wheel. And i am not comparing myself to a wheel users or using it as an excuse that i am slower.
I have made the decision myself (lack of space) not to get a wheel and i know am relatively slow....can live with that.
What i am saying is that the controller does not seem to allow me to rotate around a sharp corner in the same way as in GTS. Had no issues there with the final section at Fuji or the first corner at Spa.
I just find it a bit odd that i have to push and rotate my thumb in order for the car to make a corner sometimes. Might well be my lack of skills though....
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Believe me...if I had to play with a controller now that I've only had a wheel since December 21, I would most certainly be significantly slower than YOU and probably every other pad driver out there.
I'm not sure it isn't the steering input from the PAD that makes difficult tight corners a problem, I almost think it's more the speed and/or the amount of braking used in the corner. It can help here to play with the modulation of the gas pedal to pull the car over the rear around the corner.
 
always love to see Fuji, even tho i had miserable races this morning (just going through the 50 needed races so i didnt set quali times)
 

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