GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[Goanaut]

Apparently my quali time (47.7 sec) for Brands Hatch is quite okay for a DR B driver. Put me in P2 at the start. During the race I saw people pitting and concluded that it would be wise for me to copy this. P1 pitted in lap 1, I pitted in lap 9, we saw eachother again at my pit exit.

Finished 0.7 secs behind. No one behind me could come within 1.5 seconds of me. Nice flow this race! Will try this again later this week. My starting position will drop down the order a bit during the week, but with the pit stop you can try to get some clean track.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Based on my initial not sweated QT I'm 65 on the leaderboard....and a B driver so I'm hoping like hope I can repeat my results this time round.

Its a combo for some reason suits me yet I detest the car 🤷‍♂️

 

[Nakano219]

I couldn't tell you why, maybe it's just the uniqueness of the turn 2-3 complex, maybe it's just that they actively use it. But Deep Forest is one of the few fantasy tracks where the reverse variant feels like it has its own distinct character from the forwards version rather than just feeling like a bit of a clumsy remaster.

Like, Trial Mountain Reverse and GVH1 Reverse don't really work for me, but this does. Sardegna A is the other one I'd say works well.

 

[Rossell2]

Second race on B and already someone has lost their win due to not pitting.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Second race on B and already someone has lost their win due to not pitting.

I just threw away my lead at paddock hill....on the last lap 🤣 I did pit though...

 

[brockie]

I couldn't tell you why, maybe it's just the uniqueness of the turn 2-3 complex, maybe it's just that they actively use it. But Deep Forest is one of the few fantasy tracks where the reverse variant feels like it has its own distinct character from the forwards version rather than just feeling like a bit of a clumsy remaster.

Like, Trial Mountain Reverse and GVH1 Reverse don't really work for me, but this does. Sardegna A is the other one I'd say works well.

Agree, DF reverse is good and a few of those dragon tail tracks too, I remember a gr4 race a while back, GVH south reverse was great racing with the first corner into the tunnel with a tight left.

I do think TM is good in reverse.

Some tracks are a completely unique track in there own right in reverse

 

[Chris30]

Man, I went to sleep on the couch at about 4am, and woke up 2 hours ago. This list of tracks/cars is a repeat. But I'm glad that I don't have to deal with Fuji anymore for a while. I got a good time at Brands Hatch, 0'49.313. But I know I can do better than that. Maybe set a sub 0'47.000 time? Now I used the scirocco car, but I might need to use another one. I guess I'll check the global leaderboard and see what the meta car is.

@MOPARbarrett5 I'm gonna watch and study your replay as a guide. Thanks!!

 

[newmedia_dev]

I think I expect to much from people sometimes.

I expect them to understand the race around them. Now on daily B I can imagine as pointed out a lot of people don't read the rules or understand how pit strategies work.

That is fine and people will learn. But what has surprised me this time round as a pole or 2nd place sitter pitting lap one to get at the back of the pack with my focus on the delta to P1 to jump on the pit stop the guys in 5-15 seem to think I'm racing them...

The level of racing immaturity is quite striking. Literally no awareness that I'm not racing them yet the blocking, dive bombs etc.

I know why I QT Mondays. Just pretty awful. But it's a 2 sided coin and I've had some great races 1 p1 and 2 p2-p4 (from pole or the front row)

This will shake out to be a good week.

A topic for another day is trail braking is not what so so many people in my lobbies think it is.

 

[Chris30]

Well I try to avoid immature racers like that. I had some of those occurrences happen to me at Deep Forest last week, but I just ignored it. I think this will be a much better week than the previous one. Watkins Glen is more spaced out and it has no tunnels like Deep Forest does, and it's not narrow. The sweepers are a pain, but I can deal with it and the Skyline runs great. I reduced my time down to 1'24.052 after 5 runs this afternoon. I probably could get down in the 1'22.000's if I can find a stronger line for the sweepers and at the end before going to the finish line.

 

[newmedia_dev]

It will be a good week Chris for all of the races it's just the first day and Sundays are tricky as a lot of people are either forcing times they can't match or chasing results they shouldn't have.

Keep doing what you are doing, enjoying the races where you can.

My issue is that I race with people who should be be better than they act the pace is largely there but to be honest it flexes a bit on that. What I do expect is restraint and using the bloody mirrors or radars.

But the most most most important thing is decision making, 10 lap race, flat out corner if I'm not in the happy place I'll lift if I'm in the happy place I'll lift if they insist of compromise both our race times. It's just Mario kart race craft

 

[tyoungbl]

Man, I went to sleep on the couch at about 4am, and woke up 2 hours ago. This list of tracks/cars is a repeat. But I'm glad that I don't have to deal with Fuji anymore for a while. I got a good time at Brands Hatch, 0'49.313. But I know I can do better than that. Maybe set a sub 0'47.000 time? Now I used the scirocco car, but I might need to use another one. I guess I'll check the global leaderboard and see what the meta car is.

@MOPARbarrett5 I'm gonna watch and study your replay as a guide. Thanks!!

'47.00 would rank you 20th in the world...

 

[newmedia_dev]

'47.00 would rank you 20th in the world...

Yeah I'm a 47.28 and that's 80th ish now.

Will tumble as people push for 46s although I don't expect the race pace to change that much

Edit:

Carrying constant speed is the aim, start stopping is the worst way to drive a car.

I say this as the amount of people who choose their late braking at odd points is weird. Druids yes, you can just about prise it open but it compromises the rest of the lap. Everywhere else you are just losing time. Just a weird approach to racing. Just weird.

 

[Rossell2]

I'm currently at 48.1 and can feel there's a little more to come just stringing it together. Managed a 2nd place last race of the evening due to pitting on lap 1 (and not getting a penalty).

 

[Robster UK]

Its a combo for some reason suits me yet I detest the car 🤷‍♂️

I'm with you on that! just made it into the 46s with only 30 ish miles run.

Settings I used. BB 2

 

[Tazzy-91]

Didn't try any races tonight, just tried all the gr4 cars with no setup to see what kind of times I could manage, I didn't even play with BB. Anyway, managed a 47.5 in the G70 (500 ish on the ranking) but I just don't feel comfortable with it and in VR that pissy little steering wheel annoys me 🤣🤣🤣 I couldn't get close to that time in anything else except, oddly, the Alfa 155. I will try again tomorrow with some kind of setup in the G70 and see can I improve my time but I'm not great at messing with the suspension in this game 🙈 will try a couple of races too now that the first day chaos is over with!!

 

[Jammasta]

I think B will be a good place to camp out for the week. Quick early qualifying got me 49.1 in the Ferrari, very sloppy though with time to be had. The racing was surprisingly good for this early in the week. Could be a tough track to pass on?

 

[Trk-el-son]

Tuning.🙄 If they insist that we use our precious time to fiddle with that stuff, how about we were allowed to use the already existing ability to save and load tunings?
Oh well, tuning does not interest me one bit, so I will just do the fun part (yes, racing) and see where that lands me.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

I love Deep Forest in either direction but reverse races even better than forward in my eyes, then the tyre regs are setup so you have a big window of strategy options. Even the tuning is good because you can find what they broke on the 911 in the last update. It's a great race!

The only problem with reverse tracks is you get walls/access points at weird angles that will stop you dead, as this poor chap found out:

 

[MetalApe]

I think I expect to much from people sometimes.

I expect them to understand the race around them. Now on daily B I can imagine as pointed out a lot of people don't read the rules or understand how pit strategies work.

That is fine and people will learn. But what has surprised me this time round as a pole or 2nd place sitter pitting lap one to get at the back of the pack with my focus on the delta to P1 to jump on the pit stop the guys in 5-15 seem to think I'm racing them...

The level of racing immaturity is quite striking. Literally no awareness that I'm not racing them yet the blocking, dive bombs etc.

I know why I QT Mondays. Just pretty awful. But it's a 2 sided coin and I've had some great races 1 p1 and 2 p2-p4 (from pole or the front row)

This will shake out to be a good week.

A topic for another day is trail braking is not what so so many people in my lobbies think it is.

I think the person who doesn't understand pit strategies, is the one who when running at the front takes an early stop, only to be surprised to find slow traffic in the way!

Although I am with you on the idiots being idiots when blocking someone who they're not really racing with, but surely you know by now that's exactly what would happen when you pit early.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I think the person who doesn't understand pit strategies, is the one who when running at the front takes an early stop, only to be surprised to find slow traffic in the way!

Although I am with you on the idiots being idiots when blocking someone who they're not really racing with, but surely you know by now that's exactly what would happen when you pit early.

That's not quite what I was saying but I take the point.

The reason to pit early is to not come out in traffic which is more risky as that can be problematic to know who you are actually racing and with mixed "agendas" the likelihood of an incident increases.

Being behind slower drivers is safer....

 

[Chris30]

Man, I got a 4-second penalty for hitting someone twice in the A races, that irks me bad. At least I had some good colors for my Skyline ride. I've only done three races so far this week. Those sweepers piss me off two, in Race 1 I got a one second penalty of touching the grass, and a half a second penalty in my next race. Ridiculous. There was a lot of carnage going on. I saved all three of my races in the showcase under my ID, rising_glass1. I need to watch out who I hit and my surroundings on the track. It affects my SR here.

 

[ElectricNaz]

Enjoying the Race B tbf. Not much in terms of action though. Down to a 47.093 in qualifying now, 67th in the entire universe

First race yesterday, started 2nd finished 2nd - no drama.

Second race this morn, started 2nd, was going to finish 2nd....until I finished 3rd as I hit the wall in the pit lane end of lap 9 as I forgot to drop down the gears so struggled with the chicane... in the words of Jeff Goldblum...

 

[Chris30]

Well maybe I should set a real goal like a sub 0'48.000 or 0'48.500, that would be enough to get a pole time or to start in the top 5 of the grid. Lol, I haven't even started any B races yet and it's already Tuesday. Before you know it, it'll be Sunday. Good luck to everyone this week, it's a fun combo so far for every Race (A-C).

 

[Trk-el-son]

I think I expect to much from people sometimes.

I expect them to understand the race around them. Now on daily B I can imagine as pointed out a lot of people don't read the rules or understand how pit strategies work.

That is fine and people will learn. But what has surprised me this time round as a pole or 2nd place sitter pitting lap one to get at the back of the pack with my focus on the delta to P1 to jump on the pit stop the guys in 5-15 seem to think I'm racing them...

The level of racing immaturity is quite striking. Literally no awareness that I'm not racing them yet the blocking, dive bombs etc.

I know why I QT Mondays. Just pretty awful. But it's a 2 sided coin and I've had some great races 1 p1 and 2 p2-p4 (from pole or the front row)

This will shake out to be a good week.

A topic for another day is trail braking is not what so so many people in my lobbies think it is.

I am sorry, but I am not sure how it is regarded as immature not to have memorized the driver names of P1-8, when I am starting at P15. When SpikeMyCucumber8493 appears in front of me, I have usually had far more urgent matters to attend to, than to know exactly what his starting position was, in addition to whether or not he has already pitted.
"IF" I am in possession of above mentioned info, I will off course know that he is the faster driver, and act accordingly, but for me, that is a VERY big if.
But if it is normal to have memorized all 16 drivers and having the constant awareness of their pitting status, I am sorry to report that I am not there yet. And as short-term memory is not likely to improve after age 60, I am not going to make any promises.

(We will not likely meet anyway, as you are much more elite, but I just wanted to state what that situation looks like from my point of view.)

 

[AdxRE]

Again, it is the track that drew me back to Daily Race again - Deep Forest Reverse was the track of my first and only A+ Gr.3 Daily Race win to date so thought I would give it a go. Did 2 QT laps and I couldn't get below 1:27 then I realised I can actually do suspension/diff setups for this one. Applied my old-physics (pre 1.49) setup, things did improve but still stuck at mid 1:26's. Played with the setup a bit more resulted in the 1:25.9 time below. Unfortunately still more than half a sec off the meta Porsche times so probably won't bother to race this time...

Despite only being 0.2 slower than my old-physics QT lap on under the same condition, I needed 2x the effort to get that lap in with the car refusing to rotate most of the time. Only then I discovered @GTRedman's setup guide a couple of posts ago - will give it a good read (Thanks!) and see if I can make further gain with setup optimization.

@GOTMAXPOWER I too prefer Deep Forest Revsese than the normal direction, the reverse feels like a roller coaster and the on camber corners works well on Gr.3's.

 

[GOTMAXPOWER]

Unfortunate still more than half a sec off the meta Porsche times so probably won't bother to race this time...

The Porsche is a great car, join us!

@GOTMAXPOWER I too prefer Deep Forest Revsese than the normal direction, the reverse feels like a roller coaster and the on camber corners works well on Gr.3's.

The middle sector flows so nicely when you hook it up, it's like a mini Nurburgring 🥰

 

[Charmantha]

I'm so glad there's a road car Daily Race even if its the same combo from last May. And I find the Skyline R34 GT-R and Watkins Glen Short Course combo to be fitting. So far I managed to get a 1:21.4 as my qualifying time but I can see myself reducing that time further if I can get the bus stop chicanes right.

With that said I'mma rep the Prostreet liveries on this race and for starters I used the Apex Glide livery for today.

Sorry, but i got distracted by the sexy gt-r in Audi V8 DTM livery from the 90´s? 2 places behind you <3

Thanks. I will try it this evening, running 5 laps with asm and 5 without. I will tell about the time differences tomorrow.

And i really did try with asm and without. Without was faster, but really , it felt faster and at the end it was a difference of 0.121 seconds. for all 5 laps combined. The problem was , i hit the curbs , at the place, where normaly the left hander should follow, but here it goes back to finish line and because of the setting it started bouncing and i lost at least 0,7 there.

But, you can use the exect same set up on the Lancer evo gr.4 , i guess the same for all 4wd gr.4.
my best lap in Lancer only 0.2xx slower than in the G70. Its nice when the whole grid is 90% G70´s but on pole or second is a lancer.
-- What i wanted to tell you since 2 weeks. Last time we had gr.4 i saw another G70 2 places in front of me, who was using my livery :-) i saw it once before, that a livery completly created by me, is used by someone else and that was in gran turismo sport - Mustang gr.3 Jägermeister livery

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Well I tried that weird G70 setup and ended up 5th in the world at the moment (was 3rd earlier) Lost a couple of tenths in the last sector - annoying.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I am sorry, but I am not sure how it is regarded as immature not to have memorized the driver names of P1-8, when I am starting at P15. When SpikeMyCucumber8493 appears in front of me, I have usually had far more urgent matters to attend to, than to know exactly what his starting position was, in addition to whether or not he has already pitted.
"IF" I am in possession of above mentioned info, I will off course know that he is the faster driver, and act accordingly, but for me, that is a VERY big if.
But if it is normal to have memorized all 16 drivers and having the constant awareness of their pitting status, I am sorry to report that I am not there yet. And as short-term memory is not likely to improve after age 60, I am not going to make any promises.

(We will not likely meet anyway, as you are much more elite, but I just wanted to state what that situation looks like from my point of view.)

It's not hard work to look at the names of the top 3/4 and see what their relative pace TT was to yours.....

We are not talking inside leg measurement but literally oh the gold Porsche is on pole the renta genesis was 2nd etc.

Also it pops up for quite a long time when the front runners are pitting regardless of your own position you can see that (if you aren't using VR)

Also it's why I change the driver list to GT names rather than PSN ID for exactly that reason...

Much easier to remember them typically.


Edit: that's 🔥 @Barney Da Dog I'm actually using your ghost can't tell if I'm chasing a Cavalier or a Vectra mind 😉

 

[TechnoIsLove]

Again, it is the track that drew me back to Daily Race again - Deep Forest Reverse was the track of my first and only A+ Gr.3 Daily Race win to date so thought I would give it a go. Did 2 QT laps and I couldn't get below 1:27 then I realised I can actually do suspension/diff setups for this one. Applied my old-physics (pre 1.49) setup, things did improve but still stuck at mid 1:26's. Played with the setup a bit more resulted in the 1:25.9 time below. Unfortunately still more than half a sec off the meta Porsche times so probably won't bother to race this time...



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Despite only being 0.2 slower than my old-physics QT lap on under the same condition, I needed 2x the effort to get that lap in with the car refusing to rotate most of the time. Only then I discovered @GTRedman's setup guide a couple of posts ago - will give it a good read (Thanks!) and see if I can make further gain with setup optimization.

@GOTMAXPOWER I too prefer Deep Forest Revsese than the normal direction, the reverse feels like a roller coaster and the on camber corners works well on Gr.3's.

Dude you have an amazing time! I only realized about 30 minutes ago that the car setups can be tuned for Deep Forest 😂 Was using the Genesis before with a stock setup but couldn't get a controllable balance of resistance and a smooth steering with it. Best time was 1:26:58 and lucky to not crash a few times during that lap 😂

But now I am fiddling with ol' reliable (M6 Endurance - one of the very few Gr3 cars I like driving on RM and RH tires) and fine-tuning as I go...

Managed to shave a decent chunk off my previous PB whilst being in control, so now need to get more confident and adjust slightly as I figure out the best settings for how I drive 😊 Also quite consistent as after 5 laps, I was always within 0.2s of the current 1:26:12 I have as PB. Setup here for who is interested.

3/1 in-game settings and BB +3, thought the DD Pro wheel settings for sure will affect everything else.