GT7 Daily Race Discussion

[newmedia_dev]

So, after more than 20 years I've tried some easy A race at short Glen. Playing with joypad makes me slower of ar 2 sec from a decent lap. I made my mind, it's ok being slow until I'll grab back a wheel.
What's is lil disappointing is the "kinda destruction derby" way of driving of opponents. I mean, sometimes it's quite nasty.
IE, being 1st (the 2nd was already 10 sec behind) I find my self lapping two opponents on the last lap. They both, in straight line, tried to block me causing a collision. Luckily the software made them transparent so no problem.
Nevertheless my question is?
Does this happens only in "newbies lobbies" (just went from DR E to D) or it's common also in lobbies of Dr A racers?

To be honest most of it isn't about pace but how you are.

Typically you will improve with a cohort (similar players, you should start to recognise them) and the racing gets "better/closer" you then move to a new group/pool and it takes time to know them, them to recognise you etc.

A portion of players treat it like a sprint to get to the top but it's more like marathon, you have to settle in each time you "level" up.

When you move up a rank you are at the bottom of the known pool and pace pool usually. You have some time as the game is a generous on DR hits.

None of the races that don't include muppets in them are better or worse for the rankings.

But in B you have the biggest spread of ability, pace, race reading and awareness relative to the other groups.

When you get to A or A+ these are the races that their in race times will probably for a while be faster than your fastest QT time. This makes the racing and race pace faster but it also means contact is typically more destructive to your race.

B is a good place to be so to speak but it's not about the letter it's about how you race. Pace will come and you seem to have it but it's how you race that is important.

 

[Voodoovaj]

Exactly, let them waste their time being idiots

I actually found B lobbies have the best standards in general when racing is close. B lobbies are full of those who want to get to A so they care about their safety rating,

I find it's the same. It's the same people doing the same things.

A/A+ lobbies often have those who don't care. Just my opinion after 18 months playing this game!

Guilty. I'm old and have little patience for childish antics. If people race clean, it's all good. A little rubbing is racing? Sure. But when it becomes a case where the car is being used as a weapon to aggressively take out the other driver, I give it right back with little concern over ratings.

 

[Capt_Bromhead]

Another item I bring up over and over again is the time of day you are racing. The earlier in the day, the better the chances for a clean race.

This is why I was probably in the minority last week, but I liked the fact Race A was Gr4 at Deep Forest as only being able to race in the evening could get to some competitive racing without tanking the DR out of BS due infantile drivers.

Appreciate it was yet another binary Gr4 sprint but got more out of it being Race A than a meme race or odd road car choice most of the time. Race A has so much to offer as but wasted majority of the time.

 

[newmedia_dev]

We will not likely meet anyway, as you are much more elite, but I just wanted to state what that situation looks like from my point of view.)

I'll be honest I've sat on this comment for a day and it really bugged me when you said it.

Please don't mistake me be vocal that I'm good. I am not.

I work hard at improving, braking better, finding better acceleration points, learning from the ghosts and just being more aware of my inputs.

I'm not elite at all, quick sometimes but I've done 5,000 races just for GT7 alone. I'm not elite (speak to Barney or Metal or the guys on the TT thread or Tidgney....) so what I am is rational at comfortable with the game.

Being called elite undermines the support, help and my own rants about the game.

As I said that comment bugged me and 2 years ago I was begging and moaning about going faster and safer. And here we are, I listened.

Ignore my opinions that's fine, embrace them, that's fine. Ignore them that's fine, but for context they come from a guy that joined (again) as a CS driver and now I talk about how to shave thousands.

You will meet me, but you and only you can drive better, cleaner to get their.

You can do it, I did.

Edit: there is no elite juice or power up, just being better with the tools they give us all.

Don't lash out when the playing field is equal, just some play the game in front of them in a different way.

 

[JK_GT]

edit2: Omg I'm so pissed...

 

[Chris30]

My pace has been a little slow for Brands Hatch, I'm at 0'48.4xx. Well, maybe that's not too bad, but it's unlikely that I will be able to join the 0'47.000 club. I'm just glad it's not the Prix course because that has more turns and corners/deltas. But I like the trees, people and other things in the area. Pleasant to do races here when I can.

 

[Famine]

Omg I'm so pissed...

Yeah, we got that. Is there any need to turn that into our problem with a post like that?

Please re-read what's expected of you as a GTPlanet member and edit your post accordingly.

Edit: 12 hours later, you've checked in and done nothing about it. Guess I'll do it for you.

 

[Mert160]

The R34 in race A handles like a dump truck.

 

[Stephan]

Haven't done a Autopolis Daily Race in a while (last time I did one was with the MX-5 Touring Car and that was the shortcut variant) so I'm thinking of focusing on that race next week.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Not sure how I feel about next week.

My initial reaction is B and C come off the back of having them recently especially Bathurst.

I know we are 2.5 years in now so things are going to repeat but the schedule seems to use the same tracks at really close intervals sometimes.

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Not sure how I feel about next week.

My initial reaction is B and C come off the back of having them recently especially Bathurst.

I know we are 2.5 years in now so things are going to repeat but the schedule seems to use the same tracks at really close intervals sometimes.

Yeah, it does seem to be the same ones a lot - even more than usual. I'm crap at Bathurst, I like Autopolis, but as it's A it'll likely be a weird car with no brakes or grip, or no power. I like Brands, but doing pretty much that this week already. 🤔

Good to see you yesterday - my wheel base started coming loose. Was thinking the FFB was playing up, then realised wheel was actually sliding left and right a bit.

 

[Nakano219]

Racing softs for race A again...

So the last five weeks for race A are now race car, kart, race car, (copy & paste week), presumptive race car.

Until they actually do one, I'm just going to assume we aren't getting original road car daily As any more.

 

[Trk-el-son]

I'll be honest I've sat on this comment for a day and it really bugged me when you said it.

Please don't mistake me be vocal that I'm good. I am not.

I work hard at improving, braking better, finding better acceleration points, learning from the ghosts and just being more aware of my inputs.

I'm not elite at all, quick sometimes but I've done 5,000 races just for GT7 alone. I'm not elite (speak to Barney or Metal or the guys on the TT thread or Tidgney....) so what I am is rational at comfortable with the game.

Being called elite undermines the support, help and my own rants about the game.

As I said that comment bugged me and 2 years ago I was begging and moaning about going faster and safer. And here we are, I listened.

Ignore my opinions that's fine, embrace them, that's fine. Ignore them that's fine, but for context they come from a guy that joined (again) as a CS driver and now I talk about how to shave thousands.

You will meet me, but you and only you can drive better, cleaner to get their.

You can do it, I did.

Edit: there is no elite juice or power up, just being better with the tools they give us all.

Don't lash out when the playing field is equal, just some play the game in front of them in a different way.

Hi there,
I am really sorry that I caused something here that I did not intend at all. Please note, that I wrote “more elite” and with this, I meant better, faster, more experienced than I. I did not say “elite” as an absolute, but as a relative, by using “more elite”.
(Also, english is not my native language, and there may be some connotation to the word elite, that I am not aware of - I don’t know.)

Again, I am sorry, and what I simply meant was:
Since you drive at a higher level than me, I don’t think I am likely any time soon to be in your way, but should it ever happen, as it is now, I just don’t seem to have the mental bandwidth to always, at all times, know the pitting status of all the faster drivers. It is off course duely noted, that it is something to be aware of.
I started racing in May this year, and DR fluctuates from upper C to mid B. Being fast, racing clean AND avoiding the hell that is super-optimist/aggressive I-caught-up-to-you-and-will-push-you-off-track-while-laughing drivers, is something that very often requires 103% of my attention. Over time, I will hopefully gain more routine that will allow me to free up some mental surplus.

Oh well - A lot of words. To be honest I just felt a need to defend myself a bit, as I felt the term “immature” was perhaps not the most fitting for me. At least not if “immature” is in the meaning of the mental state of the average 14 year old boy. It could off course also be in the meaning “a race driver who in his carreer has not reached a level of maturity.” Yup, I’ll take that - guilty of charge.☺️

I hope that cleared up what I meant.

 

[Goanaut]

I'm having fun at Brands Hatch this week. Don't know if I should call it racing, although I did manage some overtakes by staying on the inside of the last corner. It's mainly lapping constantly, and hoping to jump some people with different pit strategies. Apparently I could lap quite consistently this week. In B / S lobbies I finished on the podium every time after starting from P2 - P4 (no win though alas). One time I started P8, but that was a lobby with quite some DR A drivers and even a A+ person. Managed to keep the P8 and defeat some DR A's in the process, so that was nice.

Concerning next week.. I like Autopolis but I don't like Daily races A generally. So maybe Brands Hatch again. Mount Doom is also nice but not a track I'm particularly good at.

 

[Talon16]

Brands two weeks in a row; Bathurst was just in the rotation as well, and a recent TT. *sigh

RS on Race A around Autopolis, rolling start is probably Gr2. Another repeat but at least it's been a while for this combo.

Dare I suggest a road car with slicks?! You do know that's actually possible, right PD?! People do it all the time... drive their road car to the track for the weekend and bring a set of wheels/slick tires to swap out once they get there; then put their street tires back on before leaving. Seen it done many-a-times; quite the common practice. It's kinda funny to see a Miata with a trailer just big enough to tow their extra set of wheels/tires, jack, stands, and some basic tools. How cool is this?!

Anyway, why bother... it won't happen. I might try some A next week depending on the car but won't be touching B or C.

 

[sturk0167]

Dare I suggest a road car with slicks?! You do know that's actually possible, right PD?!

Yeah, there's no reason why we can't race something like this on slick tires.

 

[Gurzu]

Hi Guys,
Thanks for all the answers/adivises, looking forward to get to B rank. I shared a replay of one of my yesterday's A races (quite a case study). At 1st corner I was "sent coutryside" by the 3rd on the grid that tried to knock out me (starting 2nd) and the poleman alltogheter in one dirty move. The system cut his engine afterwards, menwhile I was recovering in 7th (with lil anger rising and the curiosity of seeing what I cold achieve from that point)... Demage was done and effective anyway. Long story short, I found my self 1st at the beginning of 4th lap, whitout touching anybody; not even a single kiss (I actually did only 6 overtakes cause the last wasn't really one since the guy spun alone "under pressure"). As soon as I understand how to post replays on the forum, it'll be available, just to show how fun is to race others without colliding with them.

 

[mellofello9]

Hi Guys,
... As soon as I understand how to post replays on the forum, it'll be available, just to show how fun is to race others without colliding with them.

Super easy to save and push them up to YT/out to a memory stick from the console. Once uploaded, copy the link outta YT and paste it in the body of the message. Done.😁

Congrats on moving up the ranks.👍

 

[Jflijohn]

I think I expect to much from people sometimes.

I expect them to understand the race around them. Now on daily B I can imagine as pointed out a lot of people don't read the rules or understand how pit strategies work.

That is fine and people will learn. But what has surprised me this time round as a pole or 2nd place sitter pitting lap one to get at the back of the pack with my focus on the delta to P1 to jump on the pit stop the guys in 5-15 seem to think I'm racing them...

The level of racing immaturity is quite striking. Literally no awareness that I'm not racing them yet the blocking, dive bombs etc.

I know why I QT Mondays. Just pretty awful. But it's a 2 sided coin and I've had some great races 1 p1 and 2 p2-p4 (from pole or the front row)

This will shake out to be a good week.

A topic for another day is trail braking is not what so so many people in my lobbies think it is.

This has been an interesting conversation and I sure wouldn’t take offense at being labeled as “Elite”, it’s quite the compliment.

I’m retired (I’m 63) I race a lot at different times throughout the day. I think what people forget is that this is a sport that takes mental awareness as well as some physical stamina. But also, like every other sports, the more you race, the better you get.

When I’m racing consistently, I’m a mid B/S driver and I can compete at that level. If for some reason I take some time off, when I return, I’m still in B lobbies but I find that I can no longer compete and now I’m an impediment on the track.

I think one problem that exists is that some people have progressed faster than their true abilities e.g. drivers qualify fast but race-craft is poor (dirty, can’t drive in crowds, can’t handle pressure etc). One thing I’ve noticed is that racing is bad on Mondays and by Friday, it’s starting to clean up.

I have no history with many of the tracks so it may take me 2 days to learn braking points and passing zones. Much of the race data I get from just reading this forum, such as: can I just do a drive-through or do I need tires. Watching posted race videos is of a very high value to me.

But also, in reference to knowing or not knowing your competitors, I take a qualifying grid photo and a race result photo. I want to know who is around me. If you are doing multiple races, many of those drivers follow you from race to race and you can start tracking some of their habits like what sections are they fast, are they aggressive. There are a lot of drivers that you can let pass you because you know they aren’t going to make the corner.

Bottom line from someone with only 6 months of racing… it takes time in the seat to improve and it can get pretty frustrating at times.

 

[newmedia_dev]

This has been an interesting conversation and I sure wouldn’t take offense at being labeled as “Elite”, it’s quite the compliment.

It comes with connotations that firstly I'm not comfortable with and secondly definitely have not earned the right to be called fast or elite.

Opinionated, experienced yes but not to a level I feel or should be considered better than anyone else.

While on the surface it's a compliment it creates a distance from my past self that hasn't really left, I can just go quick sometimes that is not a status symbol more a reinforcement of my effort and learning and opinion.

That all said it's just a language nuance and no inference was meant, so all good.


I agree sort of with the race craft point, a lot of drivers over achieve early and for the time in the week over qualify. This shouldn't be a problem but as you point out QT is not racing and the decision making has to change and also brutal realities that you [sic] are never the fastest person out their.

I went and redid some QT for brands letting @Barney Da Dog tow me round I moved back up to 252 or so and when you strip out the eastern servers and the americas I was still in a predominantly A lobby 7th...

You'd expect/imagine/hope/pray that at this level there would be some racing room or courtesy....they clearly can all control their cars, should have awareness and the racing pace is fast/knife edge.

And....2 out of the 4 races looked like D lobbied quite frankly.

 

[brockie]

@Trk-el-son @Jflijohn

I’ve enjoyed reading this one too, you’ll certainly find this community to be full of humble folk who share the same pastime 😉 and I’m with you, there are many guys here who I class as elite but I’m sure those guys themselves also feel the tag elite doesn’t fit them because they know guys who they see as elite etc etc

I’m happy with my standard of BS, I’ve been at AS a few times when the gods aligned but it’s not my standard

Having put in 2000 odd races and won 200 of them, 1000 top 5 finishes - I’m content that I can hold my own and be part of a great race wherever I finish - but it takes some real commitment and time spent to file us in the right category, which ultimately is what defines our place (plus some skill of course)

Enjoy your racing and be fair and the hope is your fellow racer will do the same!

 

[Rossell2]

Just had a race B. Went quite well upto a point where a Spaniard started arguing and shoving past me. Last lap was in 1st and he once again shoved past me at the hairpin and tried pushing me onto the grass. Win was gone. So I did something I've never done before...



... Rammed him. He got away for the win whilst I got reset and rage quit. Urgh.

 

[Barney Da Dog]

Yeah, there's no reason why we can't race something like this on slick tires.
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Now that would be gooood😎

 

[benjoi84]

I've said it before, but I have no problem with some kind of correlation/overlap between TT combos and Daily Race choices... (Or repeats, to an extent)

I think it all builds competence given that some people have more opportunities to play online than others, sometimes there are some who need an extra chance to catch up. Also, I think that experiencing the same circuit with slightly different machinery or within different race regulations can give a good dose of perspective and helps with understanding.

 

[Chris30]

Hi guys, I just saw the next tracks for next week. I'm not looking forward to Bathurst again in the B slot. Maybe Brands Hatch would be a good choice for me, and maybe do the Autopolis races too. See in order to improve my racing skills, i have to learn from you guys and your methods, so any bit of info would help. I usually rank between 4000-10,000 in the A slot depending on how well I race on the track, at least when you're qualifying, you don't have to deal with other drivers. You're by yourself on the dance floor.

You have to know and plan your braking and driving on the beast mountain, that's what I learned in it's circuit experience. Maybe one reason PD repeats certain track/car combos is so people that didn't do them back then can have another chance at the fun/action of the event. Even after over 2 years of getting back in the mist of racing(GT) I'm still having trouble in some areas. I started back June 2021, so soon enough it will be three years.

But I am not worried about the D rank, the lobbies are much more friendlier and nicer as opposed to the A/B ones. Even the C lobbies didn't give me that much trouble back a couple weeks ago.

 

[cyirush]

Yeah, there's no reason why we can't race something like this on slick tires.
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Are you trying to say we shouldn’t be time trialing a hot 90s Vette on Street Hard tires lol? Or racing a similar vintage GT-R at Watkins on the same tire?

Crazy talk! But seriously, why does PD always give us road cars in sport mode on crap rubber! Guess it’s good for car control …

 

[brockie]

Hi guys, I just saw the next tracks for next week. I'm not looking forward to Bathurst again in the B slot. Maybe Brands Hatch would be a good choice for me, and maybe do the Autopolis races too. See in order to improve my racing skills, i have to learn from you guys and your methods, so any bit of info would help. I usually rank between 4000-10,000 in the A slot depending on how well I race on the track, at least when you're qualifying, you don't have to deal with other drivers. You're by yourself on the dance floor.

You have to know and plan your braking and driving on the beast mountain, that's what I learned in it's circuit experience. Maybe one reason PD repeats certain track/car combos is so people that didn't do them back then can have another chance at the fun/action of the event. Even after over 2 years of getting back in the mist of racing(GT) I'm still having trouble in some areas. I started back June 2021, so soon enough it will be three years.

But I am not worried about the D rank, the lobbies are much more friendlier and nicer as opposed to the A/B ones. Even the C lobbies didn't give me that much trouble back a couple weeks ago.

Could be a special week next week, autopolis on RS? Gr4? That’d be a cracker.

I’ll have have some Bathurst in race B on RM

That’s got my interest

 

[Chris30]

Could be a special week next week, autopolis on RS? Gr4? That’d be a cracker.

I’ll have have some Bathurst in race B on RM

That’s got my interest

Or maybe Autopolis will be a Group 3 Cup? We won't know until Monday morning. I suspect that Bathurst will be a Group 4 Cup, but PD may reverse what I predicted just now.

 

[Carrera1963]

Anyone got a suspension tune for the Huracán on Race B?

I’m having loads of fun just due to the pit strategy, I always try to pit so I come out in clean air and often pass a few that way…

 

[Chris30]

Anyone got a suspension tune for the Huracán on Race B?

I’m having loads of fun just due to the pit strategy, I always try to pit so I come out in clean air and often pass a few that way…

No, but maybe someone else has a good one. Have you tried the Genesis G70 for qualifying? Some people got some great times with that specific car.