GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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I had the unfortunate chance of racing against the dirtiest racer of Americas regions in Race A. Had time for three races before work but he was only in the first one. Racing from the back was out the window pretty soon. Now if only people could avoid hitting the wall and bounce back right in front of me, that be great. My fast lap are around 1.40.high, let's see how this evolve throughout the week.



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So I’m making sure I’m getting in some practice this week, managed a couple of races of A and a QT of 1.42.3xx so far, it’s a nice car and track and if you flick it in to the first corner properly there’s another second for me which I was up with but the race starts 🤨🤨 as @bone_tone says A+ drivers with QT of 1.39s don’t seem beatable 🤣

Managed to get into the 2.17s at Spa, but only just, I think there’s maybe 2 tenths left for me, not more, driving the Porsche is very nice around Spa, it’s a real shame it’s not 4 or 5 laps minimum as the first lap needs a move making to win on and as we all know, that’s risky business 😁 but just one race so far, started 3rd, finished 2nd.

@TechnoIsLove 2.17.0xx 😳

Fuji, defo meh for me 😁
 
I'm done doing laps of spa, literally do 7 lap QT sessions for a race that is less than half that.

Then the race intermissions are 9+ mins long again I can run a full race distance in QT 🤷‍♂️

Odd odd choice.

@TechnoIsLove your Trophy this week mate, good luck and god speed friend 👊🏆
Doesn’t make a lot of sense does it, PD maybe throwing it out there to see if there’s an interest and I’d say there would be with like mini/clio cup races at a real short circuit like brands Indy or Suzuka short where there were much more choice of different hoppers and potentially where you could have a race whilst waiting for your next race 🤔
 
Doesn’t make a lot of sense does it, PD maybe throwing it out there to see if there’s an interest and I’d say there would be with like mini/clio cup races at a real short circuit like brands Indy or Suzuka short where there were much more choice of different hoppers and potentially where you could have a race whilst waiting for your next race 🤔
I agree, as you know I'm very very much constantly wishing for more support type races, clio cup, lupo/polo cup, even GR86, or Cayman Cup etc one make races with possibly an SR multiplier (down) on. I think the game needs more accessible cars for people wanting to move in to sport mode but in something more controlled, closer and less full on than GR3+ daily A just isn't a good feeder race and B/C can feel miles away from fun for even experienced players.

GR3/2/1 just doesn't teach people race craft when the control and fidelity is so much more in those cars.

I will bang on about it but the structure to sports mode needs an overall with rather than ABC races there is class based racing, whatever those classes are doesn't matter as long as they feed upward to more rewarding (control, racing, faster cars) to give people natural entry points.

Having your first race is some random A daily with a road car on weird tires in a weird track combo and then having the next step a Gr3 car on one of the most competitive tracks, and your final option is a 20 min race in arguably the best handling but still scary race cars...

Just not logic to the way they think about sport mode, it is in an of itself a career mode just most won't perserve through it.
Obviously much more restraint than I...no way I would've throttled my intake to pull off that save, lol! Bonus points for the big smoky burnout to let everyone know...
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I agree, as you know I'm very very much constantly wishing for more support type races, clio cup, lupo/polo cup, even GR86, or Cayman Cup etc one make races with possibly an SR multiplier (down) on. I think the game needs more accessible cars for people wanting to move in to sport mode but in something more controlled, closer and less full on than GR3+ daily A just isn't a good feeder race and B/C can feel miles away from fun for even experienced players.

GR3/2/1 just doesn't teach people race craft when the control and fidelity is so much more in those cars.

I will bang on about it but the structure to sports mode needs an overall with rather than ABC races there is class based racing, whatever those classes are doesn't matter as long as they feed upward to more rewarding (control, racing, faster cars) to give people natural entry points.

Having your first race is some random A daily with a road car on weird tires in a weird track combo and then having the next step a Gr3 car on one of the most competitive tracks, and your final option is a 20 min race in arguably the best handling but still scary race cars...

Just not logic to the way they think about sport mode, it is in an of itself a career mode just most won't perserve through it.

Style it out, just style it out. Nobody saw anything it just looked like I lagged ;)
Yeah 100% agree

That model you are talking is very similar to iracing, having to work up the classes etc until you get to F1 racing - it also has (I believe haven’t been on in ages) Kia races, golf Jetta, Porsche cup, F4

But would love to have that all wrapped up in Gran turismo 😁
 
Yeah 100% agree

That model you are talking is very similar to iracing, having to work up the classes etc until you get to F1 racing - it also has (I believe haven’t been on in ages) Kia races, golf Jetta, Porsche cup, F4

But would love to have that all wrapped up in Gran turismo 😁
You wouldn't have to tie it to levels like iRacing does, in GT it could be free choice but I'd imagine newer players would gravitate one way and aliens/streamers the other way.

But DR has to be on, or it's just really posh Mario kart.

The worrying thing is that they can't even fill 16 place grids in A and we know that those lobbies will span D to A+ so even then it's not really racing or an incentive to anyone, wins are hollow, wins are almost impossible and if you do you don't get the DR for it.

And honestly and no no no offence to anyone, members or lurkers but can you imagine the differential between D and A/+ drivers at spa or in GR2 at Fuji this week.....

Sports mode needs an overhaul badly, as I don't even think it's breeding the best of the crop anymore.
 
Took a stab at a race at Fuji and running a comfortable P3, slowly chasing down P2 who was looking ragged and I tried to look back but it wasn't working. Noticed my wheel was in compatibility mode (what imbecile at Fanatec made the light for compatibility mode a SLIGHTLY different shade of blue from full PS5 mode??) and tried to change it to the correct setting only for it to take 30 seconds.

Still, was good to get the experience under my belt and got my qualy time down to a 31.9, there's a 31.7 in me but that's about it I reakon.
 
I did some Daily Race B but felt it too short. My Daily Race C was better on the third attempt, a very good comptitive race but lots of shunting and argy bargy so it was a bit messsy.

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Tokyo is always a nightmare to race at because of the narrow space plus you can hit the walls a lot if you're too fast and not careful. It would not be good to pair Group 1,2 and 3 cars there because it may turn out to be a disaster in general. That's why I stopped doing races there back in Summer of last year. However you all seem to be enjoying the action though.
 
Angry American dude is quite entitled to call me trash etc etc even though he was in the wrong (have the replay and exchange saved). Seems that the word clown touched a nerve with him 🤣🙈
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Anyway, I won't bother going down the same route, it's done as far as I'm concerned, move on.
No races today as I am suffering with an ear infection and listening to all the noise in my good ear was making me feel sick 🤮. Hopefully I can get a couple in tomorrow and at least 1 cup race, night shifts are playing havoc with my schedule 🤣🤣
 
Angry American dude is quite entitled to call me trash etc etc even though he was in the wrong (have the replay and exchange saved). Seems that the word clown touched a nerve with him 🤣🙈
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Anyway, I won't bother going down the same route, it's done as far as I'm concerned, move on.
No races today as I am suffering with an ear infection and listening to all the noise in my good ear was making me feel sick 🤮. Hopefully I can get a couple in tomorrow and at least 1 cup race, night shifts are playing havoc with my schedule 🤣🤣
Hey, I was called Trash today also. I never respond to those post-race messages because I like to look at the replays first.

Last year I got into a habit of dive bombing, it was usually successful but also usually resulted in wrecks, Im not here to piss people off so I dropped that move.

Today however, someone tried to pass me in a chicane on the C race and he didnt make it through, so Im "Trash" 🤷🏼‍♂️ Some of these people need to review their replay and shut up.
 
Opinions on this one will be much appreciated.

Fuji, 1st lap starting from P9.
P8 tries turn 3 side by side with P7 and didnt work.
He misses the apex and gets a really slow exit of the turn.
I get to him faster and I have 2 options. Pass him over the kerb risking some track limits pen or lift and stay behind him.
Passing on the outside didnt seem an option because the position of the cars at that moment.

I send it almost off the track asuming a track penalty should be better than be eaten alive for lifting or braking there.

He doesent give me much room when tring to rejoin and then he turns into me. He probably didnt see me there and I dont blaim him for that.

Is it ok my move or lifting was the right thing to do there?

By the way, if you want to see how scary is to witness a punt revenge assasination on VR just wait until dunlop chicane

 
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Opinions on this one will be much appreciated.

Fuji, 1st lap starting from P9.
P8 tries turn 3 side by side with P7 and didnt work.
He misses the apex and gets a really slow exit of the turn.
I get to him faster and I have 2 options. Pass him over the kerb risking some track limits pen or lift and stay behind him.
Passing on the outside didnt seem an option because the position of the cars at that moment.

I send it almost off the track asuming a track penalty should be better than be eaten alive for lifting or braking there.

He doesent give me much room when tring to rejoin and then he turns into me. He probably didnt see me there and I dont blaim him for that.

Is it ok my move or lifting was the right thing to do there?

By the way, if you want to see how scary is to witness a punt revenge assasination on VR just wait until dunlop chicane



My 2c would be that you took a line essentially off the track and he had every right to hold his line. He doesn’t need to give you room to rejoin and you shouldn’t push your way back on.

Not wanting to be caught by cars behind is not a defense for dangerous driving.
 
My 2c would be that you took a line essentially off the track and he had every right to hold his line. He doesn’t need to give you room to rejoin and you shouldn’t push your way back on.

Not wanting to be caught by cars behind is not a defense for dangerous driving.
But I didnt push my way in, I just took the little space he left without touching him. Then he turns into me but I think he never saw me there.
I have another question, once you miss the apex and turn into a slower car, shouldnt be correct to move off the racing line to not cause chaos?
Im not saying he tried to block me on purpouse because its clear to me this is a racing incident, but what I always do when I miss an apex is try to move off the racing line to not interfere with the faster cars behind.
 
But I didnt push my way in, I just took the little space he left without touching him. Then he turns into me but I think he never saw me there.
I have another question, once you miss the apex and turn into a slower car, shouldnt be correct to move off the racing line to not cause chaos?
Im not saying he tried to block me on purpouse because its clear to me this is a racing incident, but what I always do when I miss an apex is try to move off the racing line to not interfere with the faster cars behind.
I'm sorry to be critical, but watch your own replay again objectively. Pretend you're in his car. He follows his line. He doesn't "turn into you". You try and create space where there is none well before a turn, let alone an apex. Contact occurs behind his pillar. He hasn't "missed an apex" or "left space".

Also, ask yourself why he's slower than you there. Answer: It's because he purposely avoided running the guy on his outside off the track. He's racing clean and doesn't deserve contact from someone coming from off-track.

There's no blocking here. If that was me (and I have been on the receiving end of a lot of rubbish at Fuji this week), I would be pretty ticked off at being barged out of the way by a car that has no right to be re-entering the track there.
 
I'm sorry to be critical, but watch your own replay again objectively. Pretend you're in his car. He follows his line. He doesn't "turn into you". You try and create space where there is none well before a turn, let alone an apex. Contact occurs behind his pillar. He hasn't "missed an apex" or "left space".

Also, ask yourself why he's slower than you there. Answer: It's because he purposely avoided running the guy on his outside off the track. He's racing clean and doesn't deserve contact from someone coming from off-track.

There's no blocking here. If that was me (and I have been on the receiving end of a lot of rubbish at Fuji this week), I would be pretty ticked off at being barged out of the way by a car that has no right to be re-entering the track there.
Please dont be sorry, I posted the replay here asking for critical opinions because I dont have a clear one. So I thank you for openly say your thoughts

During the race I was sure it was on him and thats why I didnt wait for him. After seeing the replay I started to doubt and thats why I came here

I have some discrepancies on what you said.
He was on P7 before turn 3 and he is slower on the exit because he took an ankward defensive line... then he resigned his position and thats why he came out the turn slower than the rest.

The problem of lifting or braking there is not to get caught by the cars behind, the problem is to get punted because no one expects the others to brake there and we are in first lap with a train of cars behind.
So in the heat of the moment, I choose to go almost off road.

In my case, if some one is coming off the track and I have space enough outside, I always give space for rejoins.

Im not trying to be stubborn and as I said I dont have it clear, the more I see the replay the more I think is on me I must admit
 
My 2c would be that you took a line essentially off the track and he had every right to hold his line. He doesn’t need to give you room to rejoin and you shouldn’t push your way back on.

Not wanting to be caught by cars behind is not a defense for dangerous driving.
This is correct the vast majority of the time and in the end I'd have to agree applies here but I know what the rationale was for our man. U lift there and I reakon it's 90pc you get nerfed off at the next turn.

It's utter bedlam in race c, I just did two races trying to rebuild SR and blimey, just appalling. A few guys are trying to race, the rest are just drawn to an inside like a moth to a flame, they can be a second behind but see space at the apex and hurl their car in to try and pass. Honestly think you need to be near 2 seconds up on someone to take the racing line unless you know the other guy. It's so, so, so bad.
 
Please dont be sorry, I posted the replay here asking for critical opinions because I dont have a clear one. So I thank you for openly say your thoughts

During the race I was sure it was on him and thats why I didnt wait for him. After seeing the replay I started to doubt and thats why I came here

I have some discrepancies on what you said.
He was on P7 before turn 3 and he is slower on the exit because he took an ankward defensive line... then he resigned his position and thats why he came out the turn slower than the rest.

The problem of lifting or braking there is not to get caught by the cars behind, the problem is to get punted because no one expects the others to brake there and we are in first lap with a train of cars behind.
So in the heat of the moment, I choose to go almost off road.

In my case, if some one is coming off the track and I have space enough outside, I always give space for rejoins.

Im not trying to be stubborn and as I said I dont have it clear, the more I see the replay the more I think is on me I must admit
He might have taken an awkward line, but he COULD have simply pinned the throttle and run p6 wide if he wanted. He didn't, and that's my point.

Let me use a couple of screenshots from your video to highlight why I think it's on you.

1. This is post turn. You are still behind with no overlap and he has CLEARLY not left you a gap.
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2. This is the point at which first contact occurs. You are off-track and contact his rear quarter panel.

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No question in my mind. Your fault.

If you want a positive suggestion, you could see that coming WELL in advance. You could have lifted a touch earlier for the turn and set up a line to go around the outside through the long right. You don't need to fully stick the overtake there because it sets you up for the inside into the tight left hander. He'd shown you he was likely to race clean and I'd bet he would've pulled out to avoid ruining both your races.
 
True. Other drivers are getting faster too, as they get used to the track.

Not only that, wall penalties were back today - not sure what happened yesterday when I didn't see anybody get one, but there were plenty handed out today!
I still haven’t seen any wall penalties but I do keep coming up against the same A+ driver who is clearly rinsing this one this week 😁

Just had a race with only 6 racers 🤨

Yes, it all needs a shake up!
 
I had the unfortunate chance of racing against the dirtiest racer of Americas regions in Race A. Had time for three races before work but he was only in the first one. Racing from the back was out the window pretty soon. Now if only people could avoid hitting the wall and bounce back right in front of me, that be great. My fast lap are around 1.40.high, let's see how this evolve throughout the week.



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Average Brazilian drivers.
 
Jumped on for a quick go this afternoon in Race B.

Started 16th in a lobby full of A+, A and a few B's.

Just happy cruising around in last knowing it's not much of a DR point loss if I finish last.

People decide to get silly on the last lap.

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Thanks for the DR boost lads.
 
Kinda wish we had these longer 2008 Super GT races every week. Fun to drive cars that provide good racing. Would love to race them around Interlagos, Spa, Watkins Glen, Autopolis, etcetera.
 
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