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You just waste your time m76. Some think they know better, despite facts.
GT7 has failed to be Gran Turismo
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Just an FYI, not all virtual tire flex is equal. In some cases, the tire flex is purely a visual feature (like an animation or cartoon) and does not reflect the physics model whatsoever, they can be completely detached but can give you the impression that the physics engine is "working hard". LOL. Make of that what you will
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Well no, because you just get what you want by throwing real money and not playing the game.
In fact the latest update punishes you for playing the game.
I wouldn't mind if something took 100 hours to buy a car but the game would need to have 100 hours of content and a few more hours of content I can use the car in so it's just not sitting in the garage as a bragging tool
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How should i start?
I guess like many others today is the first day i didnt play gt7 since release,just googling for the update problems and ended up here.
I knew there was a lot of angry people about the game,but damn,hadn’t yet seen it.
My take on all of this is the next:
Money was always hard to achieve,looks like we all forgot about this.
GT7 as GTS is almost naked as of today, thay have Sophie on development+no endurance race on the game at all
Personally i think it all makes sense; how would a endurance race be fun with the actual IA? Why should we have qualyfication,if we are 5 seconds faster than the ia without even trying on the hardest difficulty setting?
A big key problem here is wanting everything yesterday.
That was the idea behind gt sport, as the whole concept of the game was different,learn to play win some cars and jump on the sport mode,and even with this in mind we end up with 5 times more content that at release day, i finished almost every race on the singleplayer mode a few weeks after release ,and as of today it looks under the half completed.
This game is intended to last a generation, if you complete the collection on 1 year,where’s the fun?
I really think/hope this game is going to be awesome in 1/2 years whenever the new IA comes,and then grinding shouldnt be a problem as we could have fun on endurance races
Now to the other side of the coin
I hate microtransactions,I’ve always hated them,until I realized, that thanks to all the not-so-smart people who actually gives money for it,you can enjoy a free to play game,gta V with new content every few months, and probably only buy 1 GT on this generation.
Thinks like the roulette,are really stupid, just tell me what I won, or make it fair, as it is,its just an insult.
About the selling cars point,well, as of today i have only the Aqua S 2 times, so what do you want to sell?(collecting is supossed to be important in the game)
Plus, seeing how often we get cars on the roulette… i don’t think that’s really a problem, the problem is of course that it “forces” people to buy credits, because people want everything for yesterday, if possible with as little effort as possible.
But well, to each its own, im trying to enjoy an amazing uncompleted game,which i will play the next five years at least.
I guess like many others today is the first day i didnt play gt7 since release,just googling for the update problems and ended up here.
I knew there was a lot of angry people about the game,but damn,hadn’t yet seen it.
My take on all of this is the next:
Money was always hard to achieve,looks like we all forgot about this.
GT7 as GTS is almost naked as of today, thay have Sophie on development+no endurance race on the game at all
Personally i think it all makes sense; how would a endurance race be fun with the actual IA? Why should we have qualyfication,if we are 5 seconds faster than the ia without even trying on the hardest difficulty setting?
A big key problem here is wanting everything yesterday.
That was the idea behind gt sport, as the whole concept of the game was different,learn to play win some cars and jump on the sport mode,and even with this in mind we end up with 5 times more content that at release day, i finished almost every race on the singleplayer mode a few weeks after release ,and as of today it looks under the half completed.
This game is intended to last a generation, if you complete the collection on 1 year,where’s the fun?
I really think/hope this game is going to be awesome in 1/2 years whenever the new IA comes,and then grinding shouldnt be a problem as we could have fun on endurance races
Now to the other side of the coin
I hate microtransactions,I’ve always hated them,until I realized, that thanks to all the not-so-smart people who actually gives money for it,you can enjoy a free to play game,gta V with new content every few months, and probably only buy 1 GT on this generation.
Thinks like the roulette,are really stupid, just tell me what I won, or make it fair, as it is,its just an insult.
About the selling cars point,well, as of today i have only the Aqua S 2 times, so what do you want to sell?(collecting is supossed to be important in the game)
Plus, seeing how often we get cars on the roulette… i don’t think that’s really a problem, the problem is of course that it “forces” people to buy credits, because people want everything for yesterday, if possible with as little effort as possible.
But well, to each its own, im trying to enjoy an amazing uncompleted game,which i will play the next five years at least.
Then GT is not for you, I can do 10 times the same endurance race with 10 different cars or setup,and 10 different weather conditions and opponents….if that were an option 🤦🏻
But saying you need a 100 hours of content to play a 100 hours is not the spirit behind gt.
We need a competitive IA,endurance races and patience if we get 70.000cr for a 5 laps race, I would expect a interesting endurance race with a proper payout on the few hundred thousands.
We just need patience.
Enjoy the game as it is and be patient,or sell it before it goes down on price.
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@buttzaeu I already finished the campaign, both license and missions all gold, and I have what, 10% of all cars and a mere 3mil incl. the 1mil that I got along with the 25th anniversary edition. I only bought 2 cars, the rest went into cosmetics and tuning. However, there's nothing left for me to play, except circuit experience which was made so hard that some are simply out of reach for pretty much all of us.
I've never finished any GT game that fast. 🤪
Your point was?
PS: It's AI not IA.
I've never finished any GT game that fast. 🤪
Your point was?
PS: It's AI not IA.
Sorry I got mixed as in my lenguage is IA, my point is, gt sport was also dry on day one, and i really hope,and think that there is more to come than what actually is on the game.
Things like the selected menu on the top left corner as a main element of the interface make me think there’s more to come.
Plus there’s never been a GT without endurance races,even on GTS there are,and i think endurance races+proper AI will be rewarding and fun to play,more if we have power limited races.
I really think in 2 years we will be able to get this old feeling of getting on a race for max 591 bhp and not knowing if your car will be the right choose until the end.
My point being,all of this combined woth the dynamic weather would make for a really fun game to retry the 6 hours of spa or a 40 lap race in tokyo with a different car, and HOPEFULLY get a proper 500/200k payout.
I also got sad when I finished everything so fast :/
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I think GT7 is flat Out awesome. They improved the auto sounds, the forced Induction sounds, wide body kits, love it, and they finally made a full game, and it happened on PS5. I am so grateful. Been playing GT for a while, Forza dId have a better product for years now, one of my faves aw well, but Pd stepped it up and I'm veryHappy with this game. It took about 10 years, but they did it. For me there are way more pros than cons for the new GT7.
More like this is just another in a long list of mistakes and failures from PD, it only been two weeks and theres no real point in playing the game anymore as their is no more progression or any sense of achivement left.It still is, it will be fine. It’s only two weeks into a game we will be playing for the next 7-8 years most likely. This is just a hiccup along the way.
PS5 only GT8 will release in 2025/2026.
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I dunno, iRacing is supposed to be the most “sim” you can get, and weird stuff like this still happens all the time, and that’s with the full power of a PC and near weekly updates since it began. How can can we realistically expect GT to not have issues along the way too?
I’m only just begining with GT7, I’ve got most of the single player stuff finished now, until more is added in updates anyways. Onto the online racing now, and re learning how to tune cars. It’s kind of funny, I honestly expected this game to suck and had really low expectations for it, but I’ve been throughly enjoying it so far. I’m really surprised at all the hate it’s been getting.
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Are they going to put these races in? I've come back to GT (older/played gt1-4 a lot) and I'm really confused finishing the career (menu book thing) and not coming to encounter higher level racing
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It's so crazy, I enjoyed the menu book thing, but it really felt like an introduction - I was expecting a lot more to open up afterwards. I saw someone else say there is no reason to buy above Gr3 and it seems true (and crazy to think it'd be left like this). Feels like 10% of the game GT4 was all those years ago... Very disappointed
A 'Road Map' would have been a pleasant PR exercise prior to launch but then again I suppose people would have pitch forks out when or if they didn't deliver on it.
These vague and elusory mentions of future updates and seasonal events are frustrating.
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Clearly no they didn't, what you don't seem to be differentiating is that it's not the inclusion of licenses, tuning, used cars, and progression that's the issue. It's how it's been implemented. Which is as important as what it is.
No, it really won't be.
I can't access 95%+ of what I paid for, and who says you can't be critical of what you enjoy, or for that matter determine what others should or shouldn't enjoy?
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I must say i agree with the OP. I am so dissapointed with GT7 that almost makes my eyes teary. Ive loved GT1 to 4 then hopped to FM6/7. For me money is not easy to come buy so 62 euros for GT7 was not a easy decisison. I was so hyped for it that i even pre ordered it and asked my friend ps5 borrowed. As soon as i started the game and saw the used car shop with all the awesome JDM i jumped in excitement. I bought a cool car only to find out that in cafe ill get all those cars, as soon as i realized the progression is on rails it killed progression for me. I wanna do like in GT2, buy an old ass supra, invest some heavy money and run with it in FR, Turbo or even high powered hp races, thats what i loved in career mode. You could tackle all the races and the cup, the way you wanted, when you wanted. they broke all that for me. Besides that, the chase the rabbit mechanic is one of the most abhorrent things in racing game. Why not qualification and grid start for all races? Besides that, i think MTX and always online are a slap in the face with a white glove. Very dissapointed. Thinking on re.selling my physical copy of the game.
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The comparison to GT Sport’s launch content is generally not applicable. PD said that it is not going to be a proper GT and even changed the title to make this clear to everyone. Of course I was also still disappointed, but PD never lied to us. It is also absolutely correct that GT Sport ended up having tons of content, because of the disappointment of so many people. I also consumed this entirely just like I consumed all other GTs since the ’90s.
I also hope that PD is going to provide us with lots of content updates over time for GT7 just as they did in GT Sport. I even believe that they kept back content just so that they can fulfill our expectations of receiving an update every month. April will tell.
However, it still is not a proper full GT game as promised by PD and even called out by so many reviewers. It simply lacks the breath to be one compared to any previous GT (except GT1). A game needs to have at least as much content to keep you occupied until that first DLC comes around the corner. Otherwise it is already sitting in the corner and people moved on. This is exactly what happened to me with Forza Horizon 5. Now, of course, GT7’s replayability is generally much higher than that of FH5, mastering a track is on its own a very rewarding thing, even if you get nothing for it. However, all the PD moves we see are just anti-user, anti-consumer, and selfish. 😢
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