There is nothing innovative about the weather system.Other games have done the same thing years ago.
GT7 has failed to be Gran Turismo
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Silver Arrows
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It's an improvement. They had it in GT6. It isn't an innovation. Is it well done? Yes. The AI can't drive in it, so there's that. They improved the weather radar with the last update, which leaves me wondering (again) what have they been working on since this feature debuted in GT6?
Yes...
Personally, I have hated the VGTs since day 1, but to each his own I suppose, and that's beside the point.
The direction of the game is done, done and done. They are not back tracking from MTX nor will they back track from the unending push to drive people towards MTX. It started way back in GT6.
The only improvement will be "improved" ways of taking your money.
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I don't really have a problem with this. The older games could feel quite overwhelming with the sheer amount of events and no clear direction. You were basically left to your own devices to figure things out.
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To me its an issue because I dont care about these events and just want access to the event with the highest payout but instead I have to grind through these other menu books. I never found issues with the previous games and having an open selection of events to pick and choose from.
You say while PD delivered their best received title in a decade, well that is a whole lot of 💩💩 if you are talking about GT7. So how come so many people are disgusted with this new game ?, even the people that have bean around since Gran Turismo ever started way back in 1997 are disgusted with this latest game.
If GT7 was any good I would still be playing it but is the worst structured game from the series, heaps of people I know over the years are so disappointed with this latest the game. Why are they so disappointed because it is not a true Numbered game from the series, it is just a GT Sport type game. This latest game it maybe well received by new players, but they will soon get bored out of their brains and move on.
You say a title that’s proving to be one of the biggest sales successes of the year, well it has a long way to go to achieve that. But it's not a titled game and all it is, is a GT Sport type game with parts you buy for that car. A true numbered game has to be like the previous numbered ones, and they were well designed and GT7 is not.
Previous numbered games have had a lot of tracks & cars at the release of the game with a lot of content, but GT7 for some reason falls way short of tracks, cars, and content.
A game called GT7, why should we have to wait many many and many months to get cars & tracks from previous numbered games, them things I have mentioned should have been already there at the start like GT5 & GT6 was.
I really liked Kaz how the way he made Gran Turismo games great over the years, but for GT7 he is a moron because how he has treated this latest game. Kaz needs to move on and let someone else to take over, because has definitely lost the plot on how Gran Turismo games are made now.
By the way the PS5 I am selling has a new owner now 🙂.
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I've tried the competition but I still find myself coming back to this game for some reason. Forza Horizon 5 has a lot of modern machinery but the physics are mediocre at best and I get bored driving around the same map. Moreover, the events are too short for my liking. It's clearly geared towards casuals who just want to get in and have fun without going into any of the fine details. Then you have Assetto Corsa Competizione on the other end of the spectrum, which is quite hardcore and requires a good understanding of car dynamics and tuning to play. Their version of a career mode is a collection of single races designed to emulate the GT World Challenge, which I admit it does well. However I can't bring myself to do those races anymore because I don't find them interesting. What Gran Turismo 7 does is provide a balance of realism and fun like nothing else can. It still has a unique charm that you can't get from anything else, so in that regard, the game has not failed to be Gran Turismo.
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I've played fh5 for a couple of months after it was released but also lost interest. Decent game though. Think I got hooked on football manager instead, but have no appetite to return to fh5 now. I didn't play any video games for 10 years until last year, if that counts for anything. The whole festival world, commentary and silly stuff was annoying. Maybe less so if you're under 18...
I'm now well into acc, started playing it a couple of weeks ago, then tried gt7 after 1.15 update. Amended settings on my wheel, but it's now total junk compared to acc physics/wheel feedback.
You really don't need to understand all the tuning, setup complexities from what I've gleaned from Google searches. If you looking to get final few tenths off your times, then yes, but default presets are apparently fine to get you to decent level and there ar decent tunes out there you can copy if you want. Main thing thats apparently inportant is tyre pressures, again they're all out there on the net. Apparently main thing is spending time getting used to cars and tracks, tuning not needed until much further down the line...
I actually find cars easier to handle than gt7, much more predictable and overall better immersion/enjoyment. Not the steep learning curve expected, but then I'm not particularly quick or looking to race online in near future.
I haven't totally written off gt7, want it to come good, so I'll be staying abreast of develpments, as like range of cars, online etc but who knows when it'll be fixed and by then may have moved more heavily into sims like acc or PC sim racing space, so gt ship may have sailed by then. If gt didn't have the issues it has at launch, probably never would have delved into other racers.
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Forza HORIZON (a TDU-style free roam game developed by Playground Games) isn't the competition.
Forza MOTORSPORT (developed by Turn 10) is.......
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Its going to be intresting to see how the next forza motorsport plays out, was not much of fan of fm7, gt7 is a lot better for me, but it dosen’t have to be contest on witch are better, they relese so far apart, and by time it comes out, it might be good idea to switch for a bit,
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Right. Forget the comparisons. If people are going to say it’s not Gran Turismo, just compare it to Gran Turismo. Exactly what the OP is saying.
we can say we’d like certain things other games have and would possibly like to see in GT. However, at this stage, comparisons don’t make sense any longer. From people like all types of racing games to people that will stick with Forza or GT or PC or AC, the games don’t seem like their vying for the top step.
The way car enthusiasm has died off, these games are trying to stay relevant.
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There's nothing innovative about anything in a racing game. It has all been done before. It all comes down to how well you do it, and GT7's weather works quite well from my point of view.
This is just bollocks. Of course you can prepare. Get the inters/wets ready. Make subtle changes to your setup just in case it rains. This is what real race teams do as they don't know when/if it's going to rain either.
However, once we're in the race, we have the advantage of knowing exactly when it's going to rain, and how much and for how long, so we do have a n unfair advantage.
Anyway, couple of energy vampires...
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So if you do a race that says it might rain, but then doesn't, are you going to ask for a refund on your tyres?
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Same here. Really enjoying ACC. I ignored it for years despite playing AC from release day. The disappointment of GT7 actually drove me to look at other sim options. In fact I could accept the content of GT7 lacking but I could not stomach the treatment of us by pd. The blatant lies and deceit. Huge put off. Competizione is a superb alternative, even the ai embarrasses GT7. The graphics are pretty mediocre but who notices that whilst engrossed in a tough race? And actually mediocre is a bit harsh, the night and weather effects are brilliant. I recommend anybody disappointed in GT to try ACC. On PC preferably. I am still playing and enjoying some aspects of GT7 but it's mostly late at night when Im too tired to use my wheel.
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Real race teams get the tyres ready regardless of the forecast...
Pretty sure a lot of race teams in different race series also change tyres on the grid last minute too, Which I guess you can do before you start the race in GT7, you can see whether the clouds are grey or if its sunshine, even hear rain falling if its raining so you can change your tyres before starting the race.
Pretty sure a lot of race teams in different race series also change tyres on the grid last minute too, Which I guess you can do before you start the race in GT7, you can see whether the clouds are grey or if its sunshine, even hear rain falling if its raining so you can change your tyres before starting the race.
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Yeah for me graphics are nice and obviously if totally crap if it's a turn off, but like you say, I rarely clock them anyway, particularly when racing. I'd say tge graphics in acc are fine/good and any flaws pale into insignificance compared to how good the gameplay is.
I'm yet to try it, but people love games like starview Valley I'm the modern era. If tge gameplay/gameplay loop, plot,story, content etc is 9 out of 10, many people will put up with average, even poor/basic graphics.
Plenty of games have flashy graphics in this era, but fall way short if most of tge points I list above aren't great.
Bit like blockbuster films, with big budgets, cutting edge cgi/effects. Look great in trailers but soon get slammed by reviews/public opinion when they're exposed for what they lack.
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Acc is hardly an alternative to gt7, completly different games, i am not talking down on it, i am sure its great if thats your thing, i don’t like to be limited to just race cars, and no customization options is big no for me, we won’t have simular game to gt7 until next forza motorsport arrives, witch is by far the most simular racing franahises of all racing games out there, both aim for simular things, collect and upgrade cars,
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People comparing Forza Horizon and Assetto Corsa truly have no idea about the topic they are talking about, just by making this comparison.
The only thing that they are the same is that they have cars to drive.
Forza Horizon is an open world game with focus on visuals and... being an open world. It's physics are that of an arcade game, ergo, completely unrealistic, which, again, it's not supposed to be.
Assetto Corsa is a game that primarily focus on being a sim. It has among the best, if not THE best driving physics out of all console racing games. However, the car selection is massively lacking, you can't customize cars and you barely have a career to do.
And you NEED to have a wheel to play it... controller support on this game is absolutely atrocious.
Gran Turismo 7 is, for all the crap it gets, at the very least, something in-between. It has decent enough physics to not make it an arcade at all, in fact, I only view AC and Project Cars 2 (among console games) as the games with better physics than GT7.
It has a career mode (even if lacking for now) and lots of other features like photo mode, livery editor, tuning/customization and has very good visuals as well, and in this aspect, in terms of the car models, it's actually THE best game (out of all racing games, not just console, but all) in terms of car modeling. I have seen many other games putting car model close-ups from each game side by side and GT7 had the most attention to detail.
And GT7 also has a competitive online focus, with some flaws but regardless...
Literally the only game you can compare to GT7 is... Forza Motorsport.
Gran Turismo 7 is a rough diamond. It has massive problems, but all of them, are easily fixable. Once PD resolves those issues, adds tons more events and after that, starts adding cars with a fanbase and also tracks, it will be the best racing game. EVER.
Problem is... PD takes their sweet time to fix these problems.
The only thing that they are the same is that they have cars to drive.
Forza Horizon is an open world game with focus on visuals and... being an open world. It's physics are that of an arcade game, ergo, completely unrealistic, which, again, it's not supposed to be.
Assetto Corsa is a game that primarily focus on being a sim. It has among the best, if not THE best driving physics out of all console racing games. However, the car selection is massively lacking, you can't customize cars and you barely have a career to do.
And you NEED to have a wheel to play it... controller support on this game is absolutely atrocious.
Gran Turismo 7 is, for all the crap it gets, at the very least, something in-between. It has decent enough physics to not make it an arcade at all, in fact, I only view AC and Project Cars 2 (among console games) as the games with better physics than GT7.
It has a career mode (even if lacking for now) and lots of other features like photo mode, livery editor, tuning/customization and has very good visuals as well, and in this aspect, in terms of the car models, it's actually THE best game (out of all racing games, not just console, but all) in terms of car modeling. I have seen many other games putting car model close-ups from each game side by side and GT7 had the most attention to detail.
And GT7 also has a competitive online focus, with some flaws but regardless...
Literally the only game you can compare to GT7 is... Forza Motorsport.
Gran Turismo 7 is a rough diamond. It has massive problems, but all of them, are easily fixable. Once PD resolves those issues, adds tons more events and after that, starts adding cars with a fanbase and also tracks, it will be the best racing game. EVER.
Problem is... PD takes their sweet time to fix these problems.
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Gt4 is still race cars no road cars is available in acc, progression works very different from gt, you don’t buy cars and so on, i am sure it has a lot to offer if you are intrested in racing aspect, i am not a fan of that kind of progression system, it will depend on what kind of player you are, i love a lot of different road cars, so other than forza they are no alternatives, and currently no new track racer that offer the car selection of gt7, until next forza motorsport arrives,
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It's competition for the casual players that just want to hoon around in shiny cars. Which some would say is a big part of Gran Turismo's appeal, or at least it used to be. All three games have some overlap in the "players who just want to drive cars and have fun" space, even if GT7 is trying to present itself as serious business for serious sim-racers who love the grind.
People have been trying this line for literally decades at this point.
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