What about how many people have returned GT7 disc version to the store, for a trade in or a full refund on the game ?.
The article in question is from the week after GT7 released and shows lifetime sales & the fastest selling titles. GT7 had a bigger launch than GT Sport - despite major PS5 stock issues. While it details how GT3 went on to become the franchise best seller. Thanks largely to being an early system seller with strong legs. The position GT7 now finds itself in.You keep linking this article, but I don't think you read it. see how GTSport is WAAAY up at the top of the best selling GT's by units? and GT is WAAAY down at the bottom? And only 7 million units total for the whole series??? Geez, maybe you need to look at the bigger picture.
Here's the thing about stats, you need to dig into them and interpret them.
See, for instance, I can link the Canadian stats that show the price of GTSport was discounted for the holidays, but there was no price drop until April of 2018, a full 6 months post launch, which is in stark contrast to your statement about it being discounted by three months into its lifecycle.
https://psprices.com/region-ca/game/254820/gran-turismo-sport
And stats can be reported favourably.
For example. I bought the pack that has the download key for both PS4 and PS5. I figured I might need it someday when I get that PS5. So, that's a sale for both the PS4 (because it counts towards PS4 unit sales) and PS5 (again, unit sales). It also counts as a "full price" even though, when you look at it, it's actually a discount over both stand alone versions.
I won't be surprised to see these stats tracked in the manner that benefits the optics the most.
Not when your new console isn't available and the bulk of your audience still has the previous console, and either way, what does that have to do with this discussion?
People also don't necessarily know what they are getting into. TONS of people, on this very forum, are asking questions that amount to "WTF??? Where's the game they promised me"
It's like you just got your first job at Sony and they made you the community manager for GT or something......You are bad at it
Again, there's the promise and then there is the delivery. When GTSport released, EVERYONE considered is to be similar to prologue and it had no single player, which, even as a multiplayer guy, I found that to be a little strange. But, as we know now, they added content with time and I must say, it kept me going for years (I still haven't looked at the single player stuff they added though). It kept most of us going for years. So it under promised and over delivered
On the Flip side, GT7 promised to be a "return" to the old game. What we got was the ABSOLUTE SAME AI that we have all been complaining about for over a decade, the same single player as GTSport (and I feel this needs to be put into bold, because I don't think you get it, THE SAME SINGLE PLAYER AS GTSPORT), grossly diminished/broken lobbies, basic features that have been removed (such as the ability to load ghost replays being, tracking your best lap times on the MFD, and more).
Now, you can go search through thread upon thread of how disappointing single player is in GT7, in GTSport, in GT6, and even in GT5 while you formulate your argument on how this is going to be the best selling GT of them all on the back of lacklustre single player and punishing microtransactions. Or, maybe the British are just strange people who like bad games.
The last time I heard this take was when TLOU 2 released. Seems to be the go to response when it’s accepted a game has actually sold well.
Good, now go buy Dirt Rally 2.0, preferably the one with the season pass that unlocks all the DLC. If you have a PC, it's only $5 USD on Steam right now. If you don't, I'm sure there are cheap copies available used. SONY doesn't really do that many discounts.
This thread ran its course about 5 pages in.
I knew about how it can be quite hard to win races in games like GT2, but that's due to rubberbanding. Don't praise or elevate rubberbanding as it's a bad game design. Something isn't worth a praise just because it was something better than GT7.
There are those who can be sick over those format, like not having enough time to progress from zero in the game (including License), or even think offline progression is just outdated in the face of online gaming. And PD displayed lack of creativity and innovation in those licenses to keep recycling same things, not only current GT, but also what's done in GT3/4 to GT1, or not knowing what's good game design is to put the infuriating Pace Car Licenses.
For economy, GT3 had awfully low payout especially and it was also really grindy. But fair enough if you prefer GT's gaming progression while you know that other titles may be better racers. Because many complaints about GT was about how it lacks racer traits, but also only using the modern GT for this, though of course chase the rabbit to cover horrible AI made it worse.
Yeah, it's right, neither scenario are what's desirable. This just displays PD's incompetence to be only able to work at snail pace. They rightfully earned the damned if you do, damned if you don't scenario.
In the UK.
You claim this, but again, are you sure you know what you are stating? PS5 launch? PS4 launch? Combined launch?
I could sit on the throne of England. That doesn't make me king.
Dude, desite post after post, and review after review, from dissatisfied customers, you cling to the idea that this "will be" the best seller because of its early sales.
No one ever said people are dumb for liking it. The game caters to children and adults. Some people are happy... Many here are most definitely not.
To be clear, conned by Sony. If you don't see that by now well, give it time.
It's a thread about how GT had FAILED to live up to its promise. You're free to not partake.
Problem with the internet is there's too much "I think, I want, I anything" when nobody in the real world gives a **** to your "I". You can't argue stats using "I". That's not how the world works.
Ya, well, that is what I am saying. People aren't buying GT7 for what it IS, they are buying it for what they believe it will be. I'm adding that, in time, if the game isn't corrected, the numbers will drop off quickly as people discuss the fact that the problems are serious.
That's dead right people are buying it on what they believe it will be, and they are in for a bit of a shock in what they are going to see nothing like from previous numbered games. Like cars from previous numbered games should be already in game, but are SLOWLY DRIP FED which is totally the wrong way to do it for a numbered game. The same goes with tracks from previous numbered games, why wait for bloody tracks they should already have been in game.
also the fulltime Working Dad that Plays 1 or 2 hours a Werk must be able to win races - the Not Professional make Up 70-80% of the Sales.Found Kaz's account boys
Graphics matters.....especially to casuals WHO ARE THE TARGET AUDIENCE OF GRAN TURISMO. If they didn't, Project Cars 1 and 2 on console would have blown Gran Turismo out of the water. Sales matters for the longevity of a franchise.... case and point, Project cars.
Gt Sport feels more polished than GT7 lol. Less bugs less exploits, less content too but well..From online lobby perspective, absolutely. Some of the events could be better organized, agreed. Hence the "glaring shortcomings that everyone agrees with".
But this game is MUCH MORE POLISHED in presentation than any other aforementioned title. Fact.
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None of this shows why GT7 is a more complete racing game than Project Cars, in your opinion.Graphics matters.....especially to casuals WHO ARE THE TARGET AUDIENCE OF GRAN TURISMO. If they didn't, Project Cars 1 and 2 on console would have blown Gran Turismo out of the water. Sales matters for the longevity of a franchise.... case and point, Project cars.
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