GT7 Update Coming August 25

[05XR8]

Source? I'm serious, you made an unsubstantiated claim that flys in the face of what anyone who is in the car scene lives. I bet both my balls If I made a car list with old cars would beat a car list with Modern cars all day. Sure bud, take your 2022 M series bwm, I'll take my 80's m sport. You want that 2022 86, Psh, I'll take the OG hatch ALL day. The NEW WRX ? Give me ANY prior generation before that ugly monstrocity. You seem to forget that GT sport got roasted for having a modern car list, PD literally churned out old cars as their life depended on it. I'm sorry to inform you most kid's would rather a R-34 and MKV supra over their modern counterparts. What cars are relevant in popular culture bud? I'm sure the guys over at Mattel, Inno 64, sparky , and Majorette have a pulse on the culture better than you do, yet most of them rarely if ever release a current model vehicle with the exception of Mattel which seems to have a huge rock on for Corvettes and Camaro's. Surprisingly, they release cars that are half a decade old. ****, i think they literally just dropped a 2012 AMG C 63 in the premium line, it's almost as if that model has gone down as a good year compared to the ten year's worth of variations that came after.

I know your counter s " but why can't we have both": because they are pissing resources making a car that will become dated and irrelivant within 2 years. With race car they can never win, We have people LIKE YOU saying the car list is dated, They will be ****ed unless they keep making the next generation over and over and over again even if the new generation is inferior and less popular.
I want a " greatest hit's" car list, not a " what was new the day the game dropped"

Do I feel we need SOME modern car's because they are inherently important? Yes, I think the newest corvette, newest 911, and newest Japanese big three halo car should be there, outside of that, I could care less what the new german/ american car is, their reputation is incredibly hit and miss.

I mean, each Gran Turismo had up to date cars. Now, those of us in the west(I’m originally from the USA), at the time, couldn’t get and may not have even known about the hotted up versions of the grocery getters for sale, in the states. Many players got to experience these cars for the first time and them found out how legendary they were/are.

Something like an F1 is instant legend status. An EG6 SiR, is pretty much a sleeper versus something twice it’s price and unable to lose it on a winding road. The original VW GTI gained legend status as it would dust Corvettes back in the day. Today, we have cars like the 2020 Civic Type R, A90 Supra, new Z. There are cars like the Hyundai i30 N, Cadillac Blackwing, cars that are new And new players to the franchise may not know about. Having new cars still educates just as much as the classics.

This game maybe should have started with the 2021 models of the Acura TLX, Vantage, C8, Mustang, Challenger, NSX, Mazda Roadster, Triton, NISMO GT-R, new Z, STI, Supra and latest TVR. These are the brands from the original GT. We would still have the used cars as advertised. So, players still get their classics. However, having the up to date cars are what GT was originally known for.

 

[Ande3200]

Some swaps that only .5% of all players will be able to do without another engine ticket bonanza.

Just save all tickets for each update, this way you have big chance to recive some of the engine swaps

I too have done the same but I wouldn't say it's 10 times the game GT7 is. There's no career mode, the graphics are worse and you can't modify your car.

You actully can modify cars in assetto corsa to an unlimited amount in the files, but you maybe mean the customization aspect i also have assetto corsa on pc and i find it more enjoyable than gt7, but thats only becouse of mods otherwise this game would not intrest me

 

[AlexWilmot]

I see a lot of these posts, and yet all the people I see posting do own the game, so what exactly is this trying to do? Are you finding it hard to actually argue the merits of their posts so you go about trying to taint them instead of actually adding anything to the conversation? It’s like we all own the car but you go around telling everyone we don’t because you don’t like the things we found wrong with it…

Yeah one of the most active commentators in the GT7 thread...

I don't. I haven't bought the game yet.

 

[Matt atkins]

I will be very surprised if a Pontic is in the update because the old Pontic has been removed from brand central

 

[tankuroded]

GT7 currently has the following real road cars:

2023 - 1
2022 - 1
2021 - 2 (Technically one, BRZ and GR86)
2020 - 4
2019 - 5
2018 - 3

For a game released in 2022, that's pretty weak.

Since outdated race cars are also a frequent complaint:

2018:
Toyota GR Supra Racing Concept '18 (status disputed due to non-moving show car)
Ford GT Race Car '18

2019:
Audi R8 LMS Evo '19
Toyota GR Supra Race Car '19 (status disputed due to not being 100% the N24 car)
Dallara Super Formula SF19 / Honda '19
Dallara Super Formula SF19 / Toyota '19

2020:
[none]

2021:
Subaru BRZ GT300 '21
Toyota GR010 Hybrid '21 (added solely because of the GR GT Cup)

Yeah one of the most active commentators in the GT7 thread...

"Outsider perspective" and "bandwagon" are things, by the way, especially from those who don't intend to play GT7.

 

[tankuroded]

[deleted, double post to properly ping @AlexWilmot]

 

[Islaygaz]

I will be very surprised if a Pontic is in the update because the old Pontic has been removed from brand central

It’s only not in brand central because there isn’t a post 2001 Pontiac in game (the only current Pontiac is the Trans-Am in the UCD). The GTO will likely be in the LCD on Friday (based on previous updates)

 

[Matt atkins]

It’s only not in brand central because there isn’t a post 2001 Pontiac in game (the only current Pontiac is the Trans-Am in the UCD). The GTO will likely be in the LCD on Friday (based on previous updates)

Okay

 

[Samus]

Yeah one of the most active commentators in the GT7 thread...

And the joke of it is that certain people commenting on it don’t even own or haven’t even played GT7 🙄

It’s like someone telling me why my Porsche is a bad car yet they’ve never driven one

Unlike driving a car there which is pretty fundamental to commenting about it there isn't that much I can't comment on about GT7 that I need to actually play it. In fact, the actual driving experience is about it. You'll not find any posts of mine talking about the physics and handling of GT7, but for everything else just keeping up with news, discussion and watching videos is usually satisfactory. Discussing the update quality/frequency certainly doesn't require owning the game to comment on.

As for why? I've explained many times, I work for myself from home on my computer and have plenty of spare 10 minutes here and there to drop on the board and GT is an itch I just can't help scratching.

I'm still 100% planning to buy GT7 when it's more complete, so it's not like I don't still have a vested interest. For game series I've totally lost interest in, no, I'm not on message boards about them. I've been with GT since the start like many people, I can't quit it.

 

[RACECAR]

Renault called, they want to know when they can add three more Clio Sport R.S 220s.

Wellll, that Alpine dealership is looking mighty enticing right now (since that's what they are doing anyway).

 

[alex511]

What came out in 2022 that wasn't a facelift, and or a limited run of about a handful, anyways?

Or worse

A c r o s s o v e r

BMW M4 CSL ;-)
Or M3 Touring

As the AMG GT Black Series is in Game, this is a Must have

 

[kjeldsen]

Unlike driving a car there which is pretty fundamental to commenting about it there isn't that much I can't comment on about GT7 that I need to actually play it. In fact, the actual driving experience is about it. You'll not find any posts of mine talking about the physics and handling of GT7, but for everything else just keeping up with news, discussion and watching videos is usually satisfactory. Discussing the update quality/frequency certainly doesn't require owning the game to comment on.

As for why? I've explained many times, I work for myself from home on my computer and have plenty of spare 10 minutes here and there to drop on the board and GT is an itch I just can't help scratching.

I'm still 100% planning to buy GT7 when it's more complete, so it's not like I don't still have a vested interest. For game series I've totally lost interest in, no, I'm not on message boards about them. I've been with GT since the start like many people, I can't quit it.

Well, i don't know how to say this.. but that is maybe one of the most stupid arguments presented so far. Why do people (like me) play AND enjoy a game with so many flaws that they think it was worth every penny.

They actually played the friggin game, you have NO idea what this game is about.
Spa 24 hour race, nothing compares, and just the time i raced there with the different cars would have been worth the price of the game.

I'm looking forward to telling this story to my friends, the most active critical poster on a game doesn't own or play it, amazing.

 

[MIE1992]

Wellll, that Alpine dealership is looking mighty enticing right now (since that's what they are doing anyway).

It's not like Alpine ever had that many cars for GT to pick from, anyway. The only car I really want from them is the classic A310 that appeared in GT4. And even though it doesn't exist yet, the upcoming LMDh would be wonderful, too. But I digress.

 

[RACECAR]

It's not like Alpine ever had that many cars for GT to pick from, anyway. The only car I really want from them is the classic A310 that appeared in GT4. And even though it doesn't exist yet, the upcoming LMDh would be wonderful, too. But I digress.

The more I think about it, I don't think they've had much to offer in..pretty much ANY game they've appeared in as of late. Both Prior to and the eventual release of the new A110, they've always seemingly had abit of a very light offering.

 

[Samus]

They actually played the friggin game, you have NO idea what this game is about.

Yes, because it's a brand new game isn't it, it's not like the game is fundamentally the same as the last seven entries in the series or anything. I don't need to play the game to know what experience you get when all the races are catch up from the back events. They were in GT5, GT6 and GTS. I don't need to play the game to know the AI are still poor, that's easily apparent in videos. I don't need to play the game to understand the math of earning credits vs time vs cost of cars.

If you enjoy the game then great, good for you, I've never once said anyone should stop enjoying it if they do.

 

[snowgt]

Why do you need a modding scene for a car to be popular and of interest to people? New cars get announced, people want to drive/buy them. It's pretty simple.

There is nothing to debunk, since I never said anyone wanted a game solely with new cars. I simply said that it seems PDs priority is not in adding new road cars, since of the 15 added/to be added, only one is a new road car and only a dupe of a road car already in the game, so barely counts. I also never said only current year cars, we're talking about cars from the last two to three years that are thin on the ground.

GT7 currently has the following real road cars:

2023 - 1
2022 - 1
2021 - 2 (Technically one, BRZ and GR86)
2020 - 4
2019 - 5
2018 - 3

For a game released in 2022, that's pretty weak.

You have to go back further - life cycles of cars are in many cases not that short. A few examples of cars that are still being built in 2022 and in GT7... (Just going down from the top of the list)

Alpine A110 '17
Mercedes-AMG C 63 S '15
Mercedes-AMG GT (S, R, Black Series)
Aston Martin DB 11 '16

The Lamborghini Aventador is from 2011(!) and there is no successor out. That means the car is still a current model, despite it's (deceiving) age. So, what's the point of wasting time modelling newer cars just for the model year's sake, when you can put out timeless classics instead?

 

[Samus]

You have to go back further - life cycles of cars are in many cases not that short. A few examples of cars that are still being built in 2022 and in GT7... (Just going down from the top of the list)

Alpine A110 '17
Mercedes-AMG C 63 S '15
Mercedes-AMG GT (S, R, Black Series)
Aston Martin DB 11 '16

The Lamborghini Aventador is from 2011(!) and there is no successor out. That means the car is still a current model, despite it's (deceiving) age. So, what's the point of wasting time modelling newer cars just for the model year's sake, when you can put out timeless classics instead?

Because there are plenty of new cars that aren't just "for the model year's sake"?

Even in your example, they could model the Aventador LP 780-4, it's pretty different from the 2011 original.

Not that I'd particularly choose that one myself, given that they already added the 2015 LP750, but there are plenty of fundamentally new cars from the last few years they could model. Your list is pretty selective including two manufacturers that don't put out too many new models but the other, Mercedes, do. As do many manufacturers.

I made a list a while back

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Alfa Romeo Giulia / GTA 2022

Alpine A110 S / GT 2021

Aston Martin DBS 2022
Aston Martin V12 Vantage 2022

Audi e-Tron GT quattro 2022
Audi A3/4/5
Audi TT Coupe 2022
Audi R8 2021

BMW i4 M50
BMW 2 Series Coupe
BMW 4 Series Coupe M50
BMW 3 Series M
BMW M5 Competition

Chevrolet Spark 2022
Chevrolet Camaro 2022
Chevrolet C8 Corvette Stingray 2022

Citroen C3 2021

Dodge Charger 2022
Dodge Challenger 2022

Ferrari 812 GTS
Ferrari 296 GTB
Ferrari SF90 Stradale
Ferrari Roma

Fiat 500X Hybrid
Fiat 124 Spider

Ford Fiesta Hybrid 2022
Ford Focus 2022
Ford Mustang 2022

Honda Jazz EX Style
Honda Civic e:HEV

Jaguar XE 2022
Jaguar XF 2022
Jaguar F-Type Coupe 2022

Lamborghini Huracan Evo 2020
Lamborghini Aventador LP 780-4 Ultimae
Lamborghini Sian FKP 37
Lamborghini Countach LPI 800-4

Lexus ES 2022
Lexux LC 2022

Maserati Ghibli Trofeo
Maserati MC20

Mazda 2 2022
Mazda 3 2022
Mazda 6 2022
Mazda MX5 2022

McLaren GT
McLaren 720S
McLaren 765LT
McLaren Artura
McLaren Senna

Mercedes A-Class Sport
Mercedes CLA Coupe
Mercedes SL Roadster
Mercedes E-Class Coupe

Mini Electric
Mini John Cooper Works

Mitsubishi Mirage

Nissan Micra 2022
Nissan Juke Next-Generation

Pagani Zonda Cinque
Pagani Huayra R

Peugeot E-208
Peugeot 508 Sport Engineered

Porsche 718 Cayman GT4 RS
Porsche 911 Carrera 4 GTS
Porsche 911 Turbo S
Porsche 911 GT3 2022

Renault Clio 2022

Suzuki Swift Sport 2022

Toyota Corolla Hatchback

TVR Griffith 2023

Volkswagen Golf 8
Volkswagen ID.3
Volkswagen Polo R-Line 2022

Some of those are just facelifts, many are totally new cars or fundamentally different to the current versions. The list is far from exhaustive.

 

[Imari]

They actually played the friggin game, you have NO idea what this game is about.

You should tell Sony that marketing and advertising is completely useless, you could save them a fortune.

 

[Majorlazer]

Unlike driving a car there which is pretty fundamental to commenting about it there isn't that much I can't comment on about GT7 that I need to actually play it. In fact, the actual driving experience is about it. You'll not find any posts of mine talking about the physics and handling of GT7, but for everything else just keeping up with news, discussion and watching videos is usually satisfactory. Discussing the update quality/frequency certainly doesn't require owning the game to comment on.

As for why? I've explained many times, I work for myself from home on my computer and have plenty of spare 10 minutes here and there to drop on the board and GT is an itch I just can't help scratching.

I'm still 100% planning to buy GT7 when it's more complete, so it's not like I don't still have a vested interest. For game series I've totally lost interest in, no, I'm not on message boards about them. I've been with GT since the start like many people, I can't quit it.

WTF! So you don't even have GT7?! You've been posting on this website, specifically the GT7 forum a lot and you don't even own the game :S Bizzare behaviour to be honest, you post way, way more than many launch owners, myself included.

 

[05XR8]

WTF! So you don't even have GT7?! You've been posting on this website, specifically the GT7 forum a lot and you don't even own the game :S Bizzare behaviour to be honest, you post way, way more than many launch owners, myself included.

Just to say, I do have the game.

Anyway, let’s say anyone that doesn’t have the game, what is different about GT7 to all the GT games before?

Theres the used car dealer. That’s been in previous games.
Car customisation. That’s been in previous games.
Online racing- Lobbies, Sport Mode, Time Trial. That’s been in previous games.
Dynamic weather. That’s been in previous games.

What’s new? Not much. What’s missing? Lots from previous games.

Okay, any previous Gran Turismo player, just by reading what’s being discussed, can pretty much decipher nothing has either changed or been added to the franchise. Pretty much same AI behaviour, same physics(relative to technology), graphical improvements(as expected, due to technology improvements). I mean, why can’t previous GT players comment without having played GT7? Even being more critical before buying?

 

[Majorlazer]

Just to say, I do have the game.

Anyway, let’s say anyone that doesn’t have the game, what is different about GT7 to all the GT games before?

Theres the used car dealer. That’s been in previous games.
Car customisation. That’s been in previous games.
Online racing- Lobbies, Sport Mode, Time Trial. That’s been in previous games.
Dynamic weather. That’s been in previous games.

What’s new? Not much. What’s missing? Lots from previous games.

Okay, any previous Gran Turismo player, just by reading what’s being discussed, can pretty much decipher nothing has either changed or been added to the franchise. Pretty much same AI behaviour, same physics(relative to technology), graphical improvements(as expected, due to technology improvements). I mean, why can’t previous GT players comment without having played GT7? Even being more critical before buying?

There's commenting, and then there's commenting every single day/hour/minute about a product they don't own. Call me weird but I wouldn't go on long rants and have arguements about a game when I can't even be able to experience the positives and negatives of said game first hand.

 

[05XR8]

There's commenting, and then there's commenting every single day/hour/minute about a product they don't own. Call me weird but I wouldn't go on long rants and have arguements about a game when I can't even be able to experience the positives and negatives of said game first hand.

You wouldn’t, but some do. That’s life.

 

[kjeldsen]

I don't need to play the game to know the AI are still poor, that's easily apparent in videos. I don't need to play the game to understand the math of earning credits vs time vs cost of cars.

With sucky AI (but predictable) and ridiculous priced Unicorns (got almost every car i wanted without any real grinding like in GTS), worth every last penny.



Spending that much time on a game you never bought it could be said that even if you bought, and never played it, you also got your money's worth.

 

[Boxster]

There's commenting, and then there's commenting every single day/hour/minute about a product they don't own. Call me weird but I wouldn't go on long rants and have arguements about a game when I can't even be able to experience the positives and negatives of said game first hand.

What I have a problem with is the constant repetition of negativity. But to each his own.

 

[AlexWilmot]

What I have a problem with is the constant repetition of negativity. But to each his own.

You know what if you have played the game and were disappointed with aspects that's fine, but to base your views and opinions on someone else's is bizarre to me,

Hell I have issues with the game, it's not unicorns and rainbows but there seems to be a trend to just bash on PD because that's what gives them that kick.

 

[Boxster]

You know what if you have played the game and were disappointed with aspects that's fine, but to base your views and opinions on someone else's is bizarre to me,

Hell I have issues with the game, it's not unicorns and rainbows but there seems to be a trend to just bash on PD because that's what gives them that kick.

There are obvious issues with the game and what baffles me is that PD does not address them more effectively. Even when some things are easy to fix, such as providing more single player content and not having just 4 races with a decent payout.

I just don't want to moan about that dozens of times.

 

[Famine]

Cool, so now we're moaning, moaning about moaning, and moaning about who's allowed to moan.


How's about that update coming in two days' time eh?

 

[KAlex122]

Yeah: Two easiest fixes: Singleplayer Content with fairer payout + Sports Mode Time Trial at least every week.

 

[RaY29rus]

I wonder if we are still in for a possible rumoured "big" update or if standard 3 cars mean it's not going to be any bigger than usually (but to be fair, monthly updates are always pretty big either way)

 

[RacingFan1]

What I have a problem with is the constant repetition of negativity. But to each his own.

I dont post much but I've read for many years and I've always seen this. Some of them are complaining since GT6 days. Forum staff definitely likes them for whatever reason