GT7 Update Coming August 25

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Pleasantly surprised its the actual MP4/4 - pretty epic. Not holding much hope for a dedicated event for it though TBH.
 
I wonder if Dirt Tyres will be required to run the RX track? If so there goes my dream of doing the RX in the MP4.
 
I avoid it whenever possible.
For years now rally is the first type of events that I want to clear so I don't have to worry about them later. Rally has been consistently terrible in every Gran Turismo game so far.

I never understood why PoDi insist on rally events taking place on badly designed circuit tracks, but actual rallycross might be interesting with this game's physics.
 
If it is the official McLaren, I wouldn't be surprised if it's as expensive as the Porsche 917. There's only 6 chassis in existence, only one in private hands, it's the most dominant F1 car (in terms of single season), was driven by 2 legends - sky is the limit in terms of cost.

Also - rallycross ?!!!!!
Although a Senna McLaren is more special than most. At auction such cars go for under £5m. An F1 car without such heritage would be sub £1.5m. Historic sports-prototypes & GT’s regularly go for north of £15m. Even modern(ish) cars like some significant Group C machines and the F1 GTR are going for £10m-£20m.
 
Nice to see PD include an actual RX track instead of those super-wide dirt trails we're stuck with.
Gives me hope for Brands Hatch rallycross track. The rally machines in GT7 are more akin to rallycross spec. IMO too powerful for the long rally tracks. We need smaller, tighter, tracks for better racing.

As for existing dirt tracks. I’d narrow them & pave ‘em.
 
people like rally in this game? news to me
I never liked the rally in GT, some circuits like Chamonix, Pikes peak, Cathedral rocks, Grand Canyon or Tahiti Maze are really bautiful and is a pleasure to drive there, but with the lack of rally tracks in GTS and GT7 the GR.B category is in cero interest.
 
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It’s scarce but there’s still a fairly decent handful of cars released within the last five to six years. Especially when focusing on cars celebrated for their handling qualities.
Cars post 2017 in the game currently: Alpine, 1; Mercedes/AMG, 2; Audi, 1; Chevrolet, 2; Ferrari, 1; Ford, 3; Gran Turismo, 1; Genesis, 3; Honda, 2; Lexus, 2; Mazda, 1; Nissan, 3; Porsche, 3; Subaru, 4; Suzuki, 2; Super Formula, 2; Toyota, 8.

Total: 41, without including VGTs. Less than 10% of full list.

Which is why I said your criticism regarding Audi is valid. Though, RS7 is once again too deep into the heavy territory for me to understand why anyone would want to drive it on a racing circuit. It’s little more than a fancy Autobahn cruiser.
The RS7 is just a sportback version of the RS6 Avant, which was a type o car included in previous games. They might not be the typical track machine, but they are great for drag racing. It's the type of car that ticks a lot of boxes, as it has performance, and fits into the "normal car" criteria that quite a few players like, and it's also part of a very competitive segment.

You’re starting to drift away from your original point that the game lacks cars from 2017 and later. Like I said, MC20 is the only recent car from Maserati that doesn’t sacrifice agility for all out luxury and comfort.
The original point goes way beyond 2017+ cars. It's about the lack of cars in general, the lack of representation of certain brands, brands absent from the game and us trying to figure out what's the best way to fix it. The problem with Maserati has been the same since GT5, the GranTurismo S being the only car available, and PD not bothering to add, atleast, the MC12. Now, we will see if the MC20 gets the same treatment.

That’s subjective.
It's not subjective that it's better to have that Abarth, over just another Miata with a targa top.

Again, you started out by pointing out a lack of cars from 2017 and later, which I replied to specifically. I could also mention several older cars that I feel deserve to be in the game, but I think there’s no point in suddenly changing the subject.
You pretty much argued that there would be no reason to add Opel in the game, due to the lack of sports cars. I just said that, no matter what year we speak of, Opel is clearly a worthy addition.

I keep thinking, why add these big saloons to a circuit driving game when we could have something light and focused instead, such as the Porsche Cayman GT4 coming this week? Driving pleasure is a big deal, and those executive saloons and grand tourers mentioned have most of their merits on public roads.
Why not both? The big saloons perform better than american muscle cars for example. We could even say that they are the european idea of muscle cars. And they are fast, with lap times sometimes comparable to olde supercars. And no one is saying to replace the Cayman GT4 with them.

Why M5 when you can have the M4 or M2? I understand that aesthetics and power might influence your preferences, but I’ll always argue that lighter weight should come first in a game where mastering racing circuits is the main objective.
And why not the 3 of them? All of those cars deserve to be in the game in any of their iterations, each with its purpose and PP range.

I can relate to that. Then again, I see a pattern in the type of cars included and those they for the most part seem to ignore. Exceptions occur, but in general I’d say there’s direction as far as car choices go.
I don't really see a pattern. Plus, with just 3 cars per month, it's hard to get any pattern whatsoever, with the updates getting a mix of Concourse d'Elegance winner, SEMA winner, a Kei car, a duplicate, 2 versions of the same VGT, a nostalgia car, 1 hypercar, 1 sportscar, a LMh, a GT300, a Group 5 car, an old F1 car, a muscle car and the Ford Roadster.

What I see is that they mostly went the "variety" route, which is fine, except that this variety is split in 5 updates, when it should be content for 2 updates, max.
 
Gives me hope for Brands Hatch rallycross track. The rally machines in GT7 are more akin to rallycross spec. IMO too powerful for the long rally tracks. We need smaller, tighter, tracks for better racing.

As for existing dirt tracks. I’d narrow them & pave ‘em.
They might have trouble adding Brands rallycross track as it's not been there for years. PD could always pop down the M20 and do the birthplace of rallycross, Lydden Hill.
 
On the face of it,for me personally,theres not a lot to look forward to with this update.F1 car is a bit of a curiousity,another porsche,the muscle cars a nice addition and the less said about the Dior and porsche livery the better.😄 But any contents better than none.there will be a lot of happy F1 fans,It will be interesting to see if anythings been altered behind the scenes.👍
 
I'm happy that PD is bringing new layouts to existing circuits in the game.

But, in my opinion, all these layouts should already be available from the entrance of the main circuit.

This generates a false sense of updating content, as a diversionary tactic.

Anyway, I hope to see Trial Mountain with a Rally Cross circuit, like El Capitan had in Gran Turismo 4.
So wait, you weren't fooled by the "new" layout of Spa where the only change was the pit exit?
Yea, me either.
 
I like the fact they are updating some tracks. We can look forward to the Nurburgring GP short one now.
And maybe even more tracks.

If we go for a pattern - spa (layout) - no track - Watkins glen - no track - Catalunya (Layouts), maybe the one after the next will bring the original track they have been working on. So... Probably October?
 
Yas Marina, Silverstone, COTA, Hockenheimring & Istanbul Park all hosted rallycross section since first edition of 2014 FIA World Rallycross Championship. Either 1-3 of these reputable F1 circuits could show up in GT7.
 
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