GT7 Update Coming August 25

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This is confirmed to be patched?
Nope server is under maintenance but since patch notes are vague I’ll wager that yes it would be since they make it difficult to make money, luckily i found out that lemans or spa can equally net you the same amount of money in the the same amount of time anyways , the right way so it’s not a big loss for me.
 
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I personally think this is the best Gran Turismo to date. I go back and play GTS a few times a month to compare/contrast a few things. I’m always left with the same feeling; GTS isn’t the game GT7 is
You say this as if you've never played GT3: A-Spec, GT4, or any of the earlier releases. GT Sport was never intended to be a fully fledged, full price AAA release of Gran Turismo. I would certainly hope that GT7 is 'better' than sport. By leaps and bounds. Shouldn't even be a discussion
Content lacking aside (which is completely subjective btw)
Well actually, no. It's not subjective. We even have the metrics to back this up courtesy of howlongtobeat.com
The site gives 3 different metrics, each submitted by players:
  • "Main Story", which in terms of GT7 is the Cafe Menu items, in terms of earlier releases would be upon completion of the GT world championship.
  • "Main + Extra", which is completion all events including menu books, licenses, endurance events, missions etc. This can be interpreted as the sum of all racing content
  • "Completionist", which is all gold everything plus trophies
As the "Main + Extra" is representative of all racing content, let's compare all major GT releases under this metric:
  • Gran Turismo / 34.5 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 2 / 67 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec / 64.5 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 4 / 169 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 5 / 110 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 6 / 67.5 hrs
  • Gran Turismo Sport / 69.5 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 7 / 34 hrs
And there we have it. GT7 has the smallest amount of racing content out of every single release to date. Less than half of the mean value. A fifth of the content we had in GT4.

This may be speculative, but it seems to me that by releasing the game with so little content they've manufactured the ability to drip feed it us over time under the guise of "new and exciting updates" for which they would otherwise have zero plan for and as such they would seem underwhelming (which they still are). I say speculative, but we all know it's not difficult to code additional meaningful content/events; just look how quickly they turned around the Human Comedy and Mission events to fend off backlash when the game was first released. These were either being withheld from us intentionally or it simply takes next to no time to create. It's therefore nothing short of disingenuous and dirty or downright lazy for the content to remain in this state. More than likely, it's the former.

Now I'm not saying that the entire game is trash. You're right in some aspects. The graphics are stunning, the physics I find great, the sounds blow the socks of whatever we've had in the past and I adore the dynamic weather too. The ability to create custom liveries is fantastic and the car tuning is second to none. But what does all this leave us with? Nothing more than the underpinnings of what could be a great game. The lack of content is where PD really screwed the pooch, and by extension screwed their fans.

This is a racing game, first and foremost. That the racing content as a whole is arguably the most lacklustre out of any of the previous releases is inexcusable.
 
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The following new events have been added to 'World Circuits':
  ・Circuit de Barcelona-Catalunya
   - European Sunday Cup 500
   - Porsche Cup
   - World Touring Cars 600
   - World Rally Challenge

WTC 600 could be a better event IF it was as long as the Tokyo one. Unfortunately, it might be just another 5-lap race...


Altered the simulation of the differential gear (with a Fully Customisable LSD). As a result, it's now more effective when decelerating and provides a much smoother driving performance;
This might change a lot of tunes I had. 🤔

Adjusted the sound effects so that it is easier to hear the difference in sound between Stage 1 to 3 of the ‘Weight Reduction' modification.
I honestly didn't know WR upgrades could change the cars sounds. That's quite interesting.

5. Race Screen
 - Fixed an issue wherein the ‘Weather Radar’ on the ‘Multi-Function Display’ would not function properly in event races with weather and time set.
HUZZAH!
 
I just noticed they have the gall to name some rallycross events "World Rally Challenge". C'mon. It's not world rally any more than your World Touring Car events are World Touring cars.

Where are the old PD, who came up with interesting, unique events with proper restrictions?

Also, only PD could change something as significant as the suspension geometry, potentially affecting all cars handling, all tunes, and describing it as merely

Adjusted the suspension geometry;
Such detail. Much explanation.
 
Wait so we got just 4 new events and none of them are for the F1 car and many legend cars just got more expensive? Wow. Just wow PD.
 
As soon as Forza Motorsport will come out, I think many guy will switch. Sorry, but the ******** what they do with their monthly updates is no longer to take.
And again no concrete future plans, no communication to playerbase, simply nothing…
Everything’s Kaz can, is posting a silhouette picture. That’s all
 
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I really don't think PD could come up with worse updates if they tried. Trying to sneak in a Mangusta "by Dior" as a new vehicle is hilarious. The GTO and the Cayman have been in so many previous games. The only car of any substance is the MP4/4 IMO. Even that doesn't have a proper rival to race against.
As for Catalunya with 3 layouts, again, why weren't they available from the get go? To then claim it's free, seemingly 'new' DLC is totally disingenuous.
Don’t moan at least we are getting a update today
 
I expect something akin to a WTC600 or Hypercar event at the no chicane layout, a Dirt Champions event at the rallycross layout and probably an FF event at the club circuit. Which would certainly be nice, though still nowhere near as many as we should be getting.
Porsche event instead of hypercar but yep, how predictable. Four events. What a shame.

How are they giving us the same amount of races as they are cars??
 
Also, only PD could change something as significant as the suspension geometry, potentially affecting all cars handling, all tunes, and describing it as merely


Such detail. Much explanation.
And at the same time tell you in exhaustive detail that some cars now come with a "GT AWARDS" logo in the garage.

PD is so proud of the fact that Kaz goes around the world to judge rich people's fancy cars but can't take the time to tell their customers what they've changed regarding car handling. In a racing game.
 
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You say this as if you've never played GT3: A-Spec, GT4, or any of the earlier releases. GT Sport was never intended to be a fully fledged, full price AAA release of Gran Turismo. I would certainly hope that GT7 is 'better' than sport. By leaps and bounds. Shouldn't even be a discussion

Well actually, no. It's not subjective. We even have the metrics to back this up courtesy of howlongtobeat.com
The site gives 3 different metrics:
  • "Main Story", which in terms of GT7 is the Cafe Menu items, in terms of earlier releases would be upon completion of the GT world championship.
  • "Main + Extra", which is completion all events including menu books, licenses, endurance events, missions etc. This can be interpreted as the sum of all racing content
  • "Completionist", which is all gold everything plus trophies
As the "Main + Extra" is representative of all racing content, let's compare all major GT releases under this metric:
  • Gran Turismo 34.5 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 2 67 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 3: A-Spec 64.5 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 4 169 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 5 110 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 6 67.5 hrs
  • Gran Turismo Sport 69.5 hrs
  • Gran Turismo 7 34 hrs
And there we have it. GT7 has the smallest amount of racing content out of every single release to date. Less than half of the mean value. A fifth of the content we had in GT4. This may be speculative, but it seems to me that by releasing the game with so little content they've manufactured the ability to drip feed it us over time under the guise of "new and exciting updates" for which they would otherwise have zero plan for and as such they would seem underwhelming (which they still are). I say speculative, but we all know it's not difficult to code additional meaningful content/events; just look how quickly they turned around the Human Comedy and Mission events to fend off backlash when the game was first released. These were either being withheld from us intentionally or it simply takes next to no time to create. It's therefore nothing short of disingenuous and dirty or downright lazy for the content to remain in this state.

Now I'm not saying that the entire game is trash. You're right in some aspects. The graphics are stunning, the physics I find great, the sounds blow the socks of whatever we've had in the past and I adore the dynamic weather too. The ability to create custom liveries is fantastic and the car tuning is second to none. But what does all this leave us with? Nothing more than the underpinnings of what could be a great game. The lack of content is where PD really screwed the pooch.

This is a racing game, first and foremost. That the racing content as a whole is arguably the most lacklustre out of any of the previous releases is inexcusable.
To me, GT7 is the best of all the Gran Turismo’s for all the aforementioned reasons. Just like I thought that GTS was better than the previous titles for the same aforementioned reasons (plus the whole esports thing)…. And so on and so forth.


And for me personally, the “lack of content” is very subjective. I have gotten tremendous replay value out of all the events. Mainly because I enjoy them more for all the mentioned reasons, and secondly because I replay them with different t cars. Hell, I’ve done a lot of the human comedy missions a few times just because they’re challenging. I can buy multiple copies of cars and tune them to different specs. I personally haven’t once gotten bored of this game. I bought an h-pattern/sequential shift specifically for this game so I can flog all of the cars around all the tracks authentically. I race in cockpit view for realism and so I can really admire the work PD put into all the cars, and watch the dynamic lighting dance off the windshield and fade across the interior as my position to the sun changes, or as the weather and TOD cycle. No other Gran Turismo game has accomplished ANY of this as well as GT7 does. And it’ll only get better

So yes, “lack of content” is a highly subjective term.

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Without wanting to join the inevitable riptide of anger... it is a disappointing update. I had hoped that since they were only adding circuit layouts, we'd also get at least one of the features we've been waiting for (selling, seasonal events) and a nice smattering of new world circuit events. The drip-feed is frustrating, as some of the key missing features should really be in place now / plus my main gripe which is just the total lack of events worth doing.
 
Without wanting to join the inevitable riptide of anger... it is a disappointing update. I had hoped that since they were only adding circuit layouts, we'd also get at least one of the features we've been waiting for (selling, seasonal events) and a nice smattering of new world circuit events. The drip-feed is frustrating, as some of the key missing features should really be in place now / plus my main gripe which is just the total lack of events worth doing.
Wait till the patch notes come out
 
Without wanting to join the inevitable riptide of anger... it is a disappointing update. I had hoped that since they were only adding circuit layouts, we'd also get at least one of the features we've been waiting for (selling, seasonal events) and a nice smattering of new world circuit events. The drip-feed is frustrating, as some of the key missing features should really be in place now / plus my main gripe which is just the total lack of events worth doing.
I get that PD can't be bothered to think up novel events to add to the game but surely it's not hard for them to recyle the WTC600/700/800 events with the same bunch of AI drivers on every track in the game?

Surely?

And while we're at it, why not switch it up a little with 900pp events or 300/400/500pp events?

What is actually stopping them?

If the people coding in a Dior race suit that can only be used in a Dior car and accompanying Dior dialogue aren't the same people coding in events, what are the events people even paid to do?
 
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