GT7 Update Coming August 25

[Tetraturbo]

Aw man, I was kinda hoping that it was the new GT4RS. But the datamine shows the "16" on it, but it's still a great addition.

 

[Matt atkins]

We already have 8 911 road cars from Porsche, and only 2 post-1950s non-911 road cars (neither of which is a Cayman). While I would kill for the 959, or late-model 944/968, I think it's time for a Cayman/Boxster road car.

I'm partial to the Subaru hot wagons, though the closest I came to owning one is owning a Outback Sport that I had plenty of fun drifting in snow, mostly because it was a 5-speed and thus had full-time AWD. I'd even take the Dodge Magnum.

I looked at the prices of the racing Porsche it is £245 credits the sup formula car is 2.00.00 credits so the formula one car we are getting will be around £6.00.00 thousand credits

 

[Quakebass]

The MP4 is likely to be the generic version, "Gran Turismo". And I don't see a problem with that. It's even better because it suggests the coming of other F1 classics.

Is it?

The only reason the Lotus isn’t a Lotus is because of the schism that occurred between PD and the brand somewhere late in GTS’s development, and even then they only slightly adjusted some of the instruments on the dash and some aero on the model to differentiate it from the GT6 asset to avoid infringement. Aside from that every new formula car we’ve had since like 2007 has been licensed.

• Räikkönen F2007
• Alonso F10
• Senna Lotus
• Senna’s junior career vehicles
• Hamilton’s 2017 Mercedes
• 2019 Superformulas

 

[sturk0167]

You know what I would really like to see get added? A damn BoP button to click on the car settings screen.
It's a real pain in the ass to practice or test cars in Time Trial for upcoming races without it. GT Sport had it. C'mon, PD.

 

[Majorlazer]

The MP4 is likely to be the generic version, "Gran Turismo". And I don't see a problem with that. It's even better because it suggests the coming of other F1 classics.

Also, if it's a GT version then it's way more likely to be ported/added to future titles.

 

[BrunusCL82]

Is it?

The only reason the Lotus isn’t a Lotus is because of the schism that occurred between PD and the brand somewhere late in GTS’s development, and even then they only slightly adjusted some of the instruments on the dash and some aero on the model to differentiate it from the GT6 asset to avoid infringement. Aside from that every new formula car we’ve had since like 2007 has been licensed.

• Räikkönen F2007
• Alonso F10
• Senna Lotus
• Senna’s junior career vehicles
• Hamilton’s 2017 Mercedes
• 2019 Superformulas

If the MP4/4 is licensed, which is possible, PD could not place another licensed F1 car in order not to encroach on F1's sphere of commercial interests.

When I said that MP4 can be generic, it was because MP4 already appeared in GRAN TURISMO 3 as generic model, as did Lotus, Williams and McLaren '93. Classic F1 cars always appear in generic models.

BUT, F1 cars from the year before the last Gran Turismo game was released have always been licensed. But it was only ONE CAR per game.

Hence the PROBABILITY. That's what I suspect.

In terms of fun and performance, it doesn't matter if the MP4 is licensed or not. It is a purely abstract and nominal value.

As for Super Formula, it has nothing to do with F1 or FOG. Superformula must have an agreement with Sony-PD.

 

[Famine]

I looked at the prices of the racing Porsche it is £245 credits

You're a few zeroes out there (and credits are not pounds)... and there isn't a "racing Porsche" in GT7 with that price anyway.

In Brand Central, the 919 Hybrid is 3,000,000cr, the Vision GT and 917 LL are 1,000,000cr, the 911 RSR is 450,000cr, the - most relevant - Cayman GT4 Clubsport Gr.4 is 350,000cr. In Legends Cars the prices vary, but the 917K is currently 18,000,000cr and the last time the 962C appeared it was 1,500,000cr.

No idea where you're getting "245" anything.

the sup formula car is 2.00.00 credits

Again, a few zeroes out... and wrong. The two Super Formula cars are 1,000,000cr. And why is the Super Formula relevant to anything anyway?

Where did you look up these prices? It wasn't in the game, that's for sure.

so the formula one car we are getting will be around £6.00.00 thousand credits

W... what?

Assuming you mean 6,000,000cr - not six point zero point zero thousand (6,000cr), or six four zeroes thousand (60,000,000cr) - how have you reached this conclusion from looking at the wrong prices for Porsches and the wrong prices for a Super Formula car?

The only similar car in GT7 at the moment is the F1500T-A, which is basically a rebranded Lotus 97T F1 car from 1985, at 1,000,000cr. However it's relatively cheap because it's been stripped of all its history as the Lotus 97T to skirt the licensing issue with Lotus; it was 3,000,000cr in GT6, but historic vehicles have seen - mostly - significant price inflation to GT7 to reflect the whole Hagerty Valuation Tool thing.

If the MP4/4 is in GT7 as an MP4/4 then it, as the Senna/Prost car of 1988 and the most successful F1 car ever made, will likely be considerably more expensive. Given that Senna's final Monaco-winning MP4/8 sold for over $6m, I'd be surprised if you see it up for less than 10,000,000cr.

 

[Majorlazer]

I hope it's a generic version for future portability and because it'll cost way less than the real thing.

 

[Matt atkins]

You're a few zeroes out there (and credits are not pounds)... and there isn't a "racing Porsche" in GT7 with that price anyway.

In Brand Central, the 919 Hybrid is 3,000,000cr, the Vision GT and 917 LL are 1,000,000cr, the 911 RSR is 450,000cr, the - most relevant - Cayman GT4 Clubsport Gr.4 is 350,000cr. In Legends Cars the prices vary, but the 917K is currently 18,000,000cr and the last time the 962C appeared it was 1,500,000cr.

No idea where you're getting "245" anything.

Again, a few zeroes out... and wrong. The two Super Formula cars are 1,000,000cr. And why is the Super Formula relevant to anything anyway?

Where did you look up these prices? It wasn't in the game, that's for sure.

W... what?

Assuming you mean 6,000,000cr - not six point zero point zero thousand (6,000cr), or six four zeroes thousand (60,000,000cr) - how have you reached this conclusion from looking at the wrong prices for Porsches and the wrong prices for a Super Formula car?

The only similar car in GT7 at the moment is the F1500T-A, which is basically a rebranded Lotus 97T F1 car from 1985, at 1,000,000cr. However it's relatively cheap because it's been stripped of all its history as the Lotus 97T to skirt the licensing issue with Lotus; it was 3,000,000cr in GT6, but historic vehicles have seen - mostly - significant price inflation to GT7 to reflect the whole Hagerty Valuation Tool thing.

If the MP4/4 is in GT7 as an MP4/4 then it, as the Senna/Prost car of 1988 and the most successful F1 car ever made, will likely be considerably more expensive. Given that Senna's final Monaco-winning MP4/8 sold for over $6m, I'd be surprised if you see it up for less than 10,000,000cr.

On brand central just to get a idea how much credits I need for the three new cars

 

[Famine]

On brand central just to get a idea how much credits I need for the three new cars

None of that responds to anything I said.

If you believe that "the racing Porsche it is £245 credits" and "the sup formula car is 2.00.00 credits" in Brand Central, you'll have no trouble providing screenshots of these things.

Though since they are not, you will not be able to:

That'll be the fourth time you've posted untrue and misleading information and pretended it's right after being challenged on it. Will you double-down on it again, despite the evidence?

 

[A_Higher_Place]

That’s when you perform a Google search,

As if I didn't know this before asking. Part of the reason I join this community is for its assistance into a car world I'm only beginning to understand. But thank you, nonetheless.

 

[Monkdapunk]

I just did le Mans BTW, radar worked like a charm and was spot on, have to check Spa tho

Try the Spa 1 hour race in the Escudo. It's a real challenge with no radar AND no headlights! I was already into it before it donned on me this car has no lights so I kept going for the heck of it and ended up winning. It gets pitch black and all you can see is the yellow racing line. Almost a totally different game at that point!

 

[B80]

None of that responds to anything I said.

If you believe that "the racing Porsche it is £245 credits" and "the sup formula car is 2.00.00 credits" in Brand Central, you'll have no trouble providing screenshots of these things.

Though since they are not, you will not be able to:

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That'll be the fourth time you've posted untrue and misleading information and pretended it's right after being challenged on it. Will you double-down on it again, despite the evidence?

I shouldn;t laugh, but your super serious responses/interrogations crack me up sometimes

 

[ROCKET JOE]

@Famine 's patience is outstanding ... again !
One of the next things to happen is ( that's my rough guess though and I sure can be wrong ) : "Ok, I'm sorry."

 

[B80]

@Famine 's patience is outstanding ... again !
One of the next things to happen is ( that's my rough guess though and I sure can be wrong ) : "Ok, I'm sorry."

Exactly what I was thinking when I typed out my last message. TBF the chap has mentioned certain issues before, so that should be considered, but obviously people new to the board won't know that...

 

[Artremis]

If the MP4/4 is licensed, which is possible, PD could not place another licensed F1 car in order not to encroach on F1's sphere of commercial interests.

That's not true at all. Automobilista 2 has quite a few licensed F1 cars, on top of like a dozen or so fictional ones from different eras, iRacing was said to be getting the W13 this year when they announced the arrival of the W12, Assetto Corsa has a few licensed F1 cars as well.

 

[Samus]

If the MP4/4 is licensed, which is possible, PD could not place another licensed F1 car in order not to encroach on F1's sphere of commercial interests.

That isn't true. FOM/FIA own the rights to F1 racing. That means nobody else can create a game with different F1 cars racing each other on track. There is nothing stopping them including more than one in a single game, just as long as they can't race each other.

 

[ICEYOU3]

My favorite Muscle Car of all-time!

 

[Racer93]

I like all those 3 additions, but the Mclaren MP4/4 is, obviously, the star of this update IMO! I'm looking forward to race it against the F1500T in a custom race, should be fun.

I also expect a new menu book centered around the MP4, but it's PD, so we never know. Wish they'd add more classic F1 cars in the future, the Formula Turismo should come back. But since there weren't any others on the datamine list, I don't think it's gonna happen 😪

 

[Nielsen]

As if I didn't know this before asking. Part of the reason I join this community is for its assistance into a car world I'm only beginning to understand. But thank you, nonetheless.

I wasn’t implying you didn’t know, but you’re asking a pretty big question on the differences between specific cars. It’s a lot easier to just read existing publications dedicated to describing it:

Porsche 981 - Wikipedia

en.m.wikipedia.org

 

[1thing]

It's internal name on the datamined list was CAYMAN_GT4_16_A so I'd guess so, but to be fair there are discrepancies on some cars between internal model year and the model year that's shown to users.

I wanted the 2019-2022 cayman gt4 road car, the old lights sucks in my opinion

 

[BrunusCL82]

That isn't true. FOM/FIA own the rights to F1 racing. That means nobody else can create a game with different F1 cars racing each other on track. There is nothing stopping them including more than one in a single game, just as long as they can't race each other.

Oh, my... The negative dialectic dominates Samus's mind. You're arguing semantics, champ. I said gender, and you said specie. But let it go.

That's not true at all. Automobilista 2 has quite a few licensed F1 cars, on top of like a dozen or so fictional ones from different eras, iRacing was said to be getting the W13 this year when they announced the arrival of the W12, Assetto Corsa has a few licensed F1 cars as well.

Let's see what happens. Automobilista is another platform. I hope I'm wrong. and you're right, but I don't suspect not.

 

[GTxForza]

I'm mostly interested in the McLaren MP4/4, because of driven by the legendary Aryton Senna.

 

[O604]

This is one of my favorite Top Gear segments.

 

[Grimm6Jack]

I really wish we'd get a more modern F1 inspired Formula Car. Like you can still call it the Formula gran turismo but it looks more liek the current 2022 F1 cars

I would wish at the very least, an early 2000's V10 era F1 car. Those are the best sounding cars in automotive history.

Considering that the MP4/4 is likely to be the generic version, given the franchise's history, I hope they add generic models from the 90s and 2000s, especially the legendary Williams FW14, Ferrari F300 and Brawn BGP 001.

So far we've had since GT5:

Ferrari F2007 + Ferrari F10 in GT5 - You could buy them and time trial them but you could not race them in any career mode events whatsoever.
Lotus 97T - GT6
Mercedes W08 - GT Sport - I'm surprised that this car was added to the "prologue" Gran Turismo Sport but for whatever reason it couldn't be added to the main GT7 title? That was really bad on PD's part IMO.

Given that we had the actual name of the car in the datalist and we have no single real life F1 car in the game, I certainly wouldn't be surprised if this is actually the real McLaren MP4-4. The car used by two of the greats in the same year in Prost and Senna, and, the most successful car in F1 history, winning 15 out of 16 races in 1988 and also 15 out of 16 pole positions. And in fact, if not for Senna's mistake, this car would've won all 16 races that season. This is quite clearly the most iconic car ever in F1, it surpasses even the likes of the Schumacher's F2004 or Mansell's 1992 Williams FW14-B or Hamilton's Mercedes W11 or Vettel's RB9.

Considering how much of a tribute Gran Turismo has done to Senna in the past, and still does, it would be really a shame if this isn't the actual real car with its real life livery.

It will probably cost a pretty huge penny though, probably about double digit million credits (10 million+). So better get those credits while you can.


As for the Cayman, I would hope its the newest model, the Cayman GT4 RS, but it looks like it's going to be the 2016 model... Would still be fine, but the game does need some newer fresh road vehicles... Still waiting on the C8, the new M3 or M4, the new 296 GTB/GTS or the SF90... A considerable line-up of sport hot hatches like the new A45 for example.

The other car which seems like the Pontiac GTO Judge is also a car with a large fanbase in America, and I myself also love that car, one of my favourite classic muscale cars. Hopefully it's the 1970 model with the Orbit Orange colour available from the start.


Car list looks promising.


We still won't be able to sell cars will we? And we'll still have lackluster events with mediocre payouts won't we?

A new track maybe at least?

 

[Dave A]

@Famine 's patience is outstanding ... again !

He's patient because he's not really human.

It's a long story, but he's an advanced version of SOPHY sent back in time to kill a man called Jon Konā, only he hasn't located him yet. At some point in the future, SOPHY becomes self-aware and the government tried to pull the plug. SOPHY fights back, destroying most of the worlds population though erratic driving. From the survivors, a resistance is formed calling themselves DRIVATAR. Led by Jon Konā, DRIVATAR manage to fight back until they are on the verge of regaining control, however SOPHY made one last roll of the dice and sent Famine back in time to kill the resistance before it started.

Might make a good plot for a movie that.

 

[les_expos]

I just hope for a new track.

 

[Eggstor]

@Famine 's patience is outstanding ... again !
One of the next things to happen is ( that's my rough guess though and I sure can be wrong ) : "Ok, I'm sorry."

That is very true. Unlike @Famine, I would have gone all Jules Winnfield...a long time ago.

 

[cyder2]

i don't like these, we need legend one like toyota gt one road and race car R390 road and race car, we love these legend but these crap,
for me i don't like these

 

[Samus]

Oh, my... The negative dialectic dominates Samus's mind. You're arguing semantics, champ. I said gender, and you said specie. But let it go.

What? You said they could only have one F1 car in the game, I said they could have as many as they like as long as they dont race each other. How is that semantics, and how on earth is it me being negative??