GTDesigned: A Community Vision GT Project

We'll going to add a series of poll for 3 days, for now the layout

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rtv190
can i get a taco on wheels?
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@LosCules24SFA Wouldn't you love to have this as a VGT? A taco? :D
 
I have a plan, so here it is :
we'll divide everyone into a "department" according they're ability/knowledge/interest but of course each people choose what department they will join:

-Design/Styling Department : will be divided by : Exterior and Interior

-Chassis Department

-Aerodynamic Department

-Powertrain Department

-Technology and Electrical Department

This is meant to help us work more efficiently, what do you guys think?
 
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LosCules24SFA
I have a plan, so here it is :
we'll divide everyone into a "department" according they're ability/knowledge/interest but of course each people choose what department they will choose:

-Design/Styling Department : will be divided by : Exterior and Interior

-Chassis Department

-Aerodynamic Department

-Powertrain Department

-Technology and Electrical Department

This is meant to help us work more efficiently, what do you guys think?
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I think it's a good idea... I really want to drive my car; It looks so fast. lol... Imagine TS030 and Porsche 956 having a baby... lol :P thats how fast. lol.
 
No need to rush we haven't heard anything, or have a deadline. Let the designers have time to put there best ideas forward.

Then we need to collate all the designs that have been put into this thread into one place where they can be voted on, once per person:banghead: to decide on design, then a seperate poll to decide on the designer to draw then maybe collaborate with others using the same software to produce a model and any components we want to highlight to demonstrate. Then we can divide into areas for refinement of each area.

I think we need to find a secure polling system where each idea that is put forward to add on can be decided by community consensus.

Remember the initial design brief is in the results of the poll so we need to design to that then we can poll other options to see what everyone thinks.
 
Yep, that's what I was thinking, the departments will be made after the poll, and just to remind everyone the design polling will start in a couple of days (14th December), I'll try to come up with a better polling system
 
LosCules24SFA
Yep, that's what I was thinking, the departments will be made after the poll, and just to remind everyone the design polling will start in a couple of days (14th December), I'll try to come up with a better polling system
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GTPs polling system is pretty secure. I'm sure they wont mind for us to create a new thread for the "big vote." :)

Maybe we can have a poll on the news page if we're lucky. :)
 
Here's mine (it's slight different from the first). It meets the requirements that the people voted for. Its intended to look similar to what @sk8er913 did but it combined the aspects of other types cars. It has a front end/doors like a lotus Elise, front fenders like an FT1 VGT, rear wide body fenders like a combination between an LMP and a P1, the rear (above the engine)/wing is like an LMP, and the rear end would look similar to the Nissan VGT. It has active suspension where it has the modes off, rally, drift, and race and it scans the surface and sets the suspension accordingly. It has a roof scoop/ trunk vent to help cool down the engine. It has the battery under the front hood/bonnet (if that's feasible). The interior would be minimal in order to save weight. The body would be made out of that material y'all were discussing earlier and the engine would use aluminum, titanium, and magnesium (use everywhere possible). I hope you like it; I hope it is a good combo of a lot of y'all's ideas. I draw poorly and I can't 3D model. If you want to you can but just give me some of the credit.
My main concern is too much downforce though...
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I like the ideas so far. Also in favor of the taco car. What I think's really important though is to come up with an idea that really works for everyone. I mean, do new designs stick with the poll results? Because that's hardly a unified design concept. If we could start a whole new subforum we can have a series of votes than close each thread, and make the car piece by piece. Like maybe people won't vote for a V configuration if we first vote for a 4 cylinder. Maybe people won't vote for a turbo if we vote in a two-stroke. By breaking up the design and voting on each piece we'll probably end up with a design that we all like, because as it is everyone seems to have their own idea in their head of a perfect car. My suggestion is to vote in the current sequence in 1 week intervals:

Classification (Subcompact, Compact, Sports-Coupe, Track)
Engine (Piston, Pistonless, Electric)
Engine pt.2 [Piston(v, flat, inline) Pistonless(Wankel, Turbine) Electric]
Engine pt.3 [Number of cylinders/rotors]
Stroke Cycle [only for piston]
Engine Aspiration
Engine Position
Rough PP expectation (to compare to other cars)
Transmission

With a subforum we can have threads open about all these topics long before we vote, and keep organized and reach proper consensus about ideas. While voting on this we can also have a thread working on the body designs themselves, and a subforum will give us a lot of visibility and perhaps even attract more attention from the GT designers themselves. If we do this right, and we don't rush, we could perhaps actually end up with a car we can all be proud of.
 
Eh. The idea of a subforum is a little too far, really. But we could talk to mods about multiple threads, if needs be, and have them linked to in the OP.

As for the engine debate, can I ask why anyone would really bother with rotary engines? I mean they're powerful but then, the car, as voted remember, is the size of a city car. Nothing more than a 4 cylinder engine is really needed, plus things like electric turbochargers, hybrid systems, ceramic engine parts etc. can increase performance to a sane level for a base car.

And this department idea is pretty, for want of a better word, bad. We haven't got a final design, or even a solid design brief which we all agree on. We need to crawl before we run a marathon.
 
You're absolutely right, although rotary engines can also be quite small, an inline or flat 4 both work exceedingly well in a small car. I'm just a little skeptical of the initial vote for the car's size, as that whole survey was a bit shoddy. I think a series of votes to have a clear "vision" (heh) for what the car should be could really help in the design process. We have lmp1 designs and hypercar designs and f1 designs all competing right now and i'm not sure if that should happen. And honestly while a subforum may seem a bit much, I was even flirting with the idea of creating an entirely separate forum to work in tandem with this thread. Benefits of a subforum include ease of organization, visibility and secure polling. While this is a community project, entirely for fun, any design work I've done has benefited from increased organization. Being able to quickly see what people think about suspension, aero, powertrain etc and keep all those conversations separate yet still easily able to keep track of it all definitely helps. It also removes the need for departments as we can simply as a community participate in the threads which interest us.
 
TacoParty
You're absolutely right, although rotary engines can also be quite small, an inline or flat 4 both work exceedingly well in a small car. I'm just a little skeptical of the initial vote for the car's size, as that whole survey was a bit shoddy. I think a series of votes to have a clear "vision" (heh) for what the car should be could really help in the design process. We have lmp1 designs and hypercar designs and f1 designs all competing right now and i'm not sure if that should happen. And honestly while a subforum may seem a bit much, I was even flirting with the idea of creating an entirely separate forum to work in tandem with this thread. Benefits of a subforum include ease of organization, visibility and secure polling. While this is a community project, entirely for fun, any design work I've done has benefited from increased organization. Being able to quickly see what people think about suspension, aero, powertrain etc and keep all those conversations separate yet still easily able to keep track of it all definitely helps. It also removes the need for departments as we can simply as a community participate in the threads which interest us.
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The size issue is a difficult one, yes. I mean what are the limits of the size? Is it an Autozam or a new MINI? We just don't know...

And each of these benefits could be implemented in a decently managed couple of threads, and we do want to keep it in GTP, no? So asking Jordan to make a subforum is definitely too much to ask. Won't really gather more attention from PD than a few threads would.
 
legacyMACHINE
The size issue is a difficult one, yes. I mean what are the limits of the size? Is it an Autozam or a new MINI? We just don't know...

And each of these benefits could be implemented in a decently managed couple of threads, and we do want to keep it in GTP, no? So asking Jordan to make a subforum is definitely too much to ask. Won't really gather more attention from PD than a few threads would.
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Still, I sent Jordan a message, I mean you never know until you ask.
 
legacyMACHINE
Is it an Autozam or a new MINI?
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The new MINI is massive compared to what it was, or am I mistaken, all I've seen are the photos not an actual side by side comp in real life... Do none of the manufacturers in the world have a set definition of 'city car' size range? (I think it could be at least 25-30% bigger than the autozam)
 
WhiterunGuard
The new MINI is massive compared to what it was, or am I mistaken, all I've seen are the photos not an actual side by side comp in real life... Do none of the manufacturers in the world have a set definition of 'city car' size range? (I think it could be at least 25-30% bigger than the autozam)
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The City car bit is definitely dependant on people's views. I mean, a city car where I live (northern England, not the moon) is a modern MINI, whereas in Japan it would be a Kei car. Its the same with car makers, with Toyota having the iQ, BMW having the i3 and Chevy having the Volt. All different sized city cars.
 
Well that is a dilemma... When I saw city car I immediately thought Honda Z Act and that sort, but that's just me being stuck in the 70's. (of automobiles that is.)
 
Jordan may bring up the idea of a community designed VGT with PD, and depending on the response may also create a subforum! If we can crowdsource a car design and make it available in-game that will definitely be a first for the GT franchise, and a big step in both automotive design as well as game design!
 
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This is my idea for the air intake/ground effects for the car. This represents the underbelly of a flatbottomed car. The black circles represents holes on the bottom of the car, which direct air from the bottom of the car under the V4, over the battery pack and out the rear of the car passing over the diffuser. The piping is represented in blue. The yellow represents air filters which draws air into the engine, which is represented in red/orange. the idea is to create suction underneath the car like the x2014 without actually using a fan. this of course won't create as much downforce, but will cool the batteries, provide cold air intake, and cool the batteries. if anything needs clarification I can sketch a quick side view x-ray
 
TacoParty
Jordan may bring up the idea of a community designed VGT with PD, and depending on the response may also create a subforum! If we can crowdsource a car design and make it available in-game that will definitely be a first for the GT franchise, and a big step in both automotive design as well as game design!
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And if my 5 minute masterpiece of a taco truck gets added to the game, it will also be a revolution in Taco truck design. :D @rtv190


Ok so city car was voted; would anyone consider a street legal
Prototypish trackday car as a city car? XD it looks so fast :P
 

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