GTP Cool Wall: 1970 Monteverdi Hai 450 SS

[Slash]

That looks awesome. And terrifying.

Can you imagine if cylinder 1 threw a rod through the block? The piston alone is the size of your face and at 6,000rpm it would blow the rod through the block, cover and right through you

A car's following means nothing when we talk about beauty. When we talk about coolness it does, but that's exactly why so many muscle cars are so uncool...

Except it does, to the eye of the voter. If a car is beautiful/pretty/sharp looking, it's more likely to be popular, and you're more likely to find it cool.

Muscle cars are cool for exactly that reason, but I know for a fact you and I could argue this all day, so I'd rather drop it here than start a war

 

[niky]

Regarding popularity, I only have two things to say:

Honda Civics.

Justin Bieber.

Now, I like Honda Civics (older ones), but you'd have a hard time calling them cool.

The other... thing... I doubt any of us would call, in a million years, cool... but it's the most popular Canadian export on the planet, at the moment.

poorly built kit car in the front.

Wait, this:

Complete with cheesy window vents and 5-mph bumper is prettier than this:

?

I don't get it.

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I mean, I get how you can dislike the fact that it has a breadvan rear end... sort of like the old Lotus Europa... but have you ever seen what a poorly built kit car looks like?

 

[GTP_Ingram]

I appreciate that looks are down to personal preference, (I mean, I think that 'beautiful' Ferrari 308 you posted is ruined by the US-spec plastic bumper jutting out of the front) but the only part of your rant I (sort of) agree with you with is this:

The taillights look utterly boring and unoriginal.

..But even then, I think the only reason they give off that impression is that the body is so swoopy at the back, many cars from the 60s/70s had pretty generic designs for tail lights.

Complaining about the placement of the door handles on a supercar is akin to doing a bungee jump and moaning about the colour of your instructor's socks: it's completely facile and it won't affect the overall experience even slightly.

 

[INEEDNAWZZZ]

I was just gonna give it a cool, on the basis on it being rare, having curves in the right places and being HEMI flavoured instead of the usual V8 or V12 of the period. Then I saw that interior shot.

Sub zero.

 

[yabiggoose]

I just don't like the fact it looks like a generic kit-car. Uncool for me.

 

[Joey D]

I know nothing about this car, but if I did see one I'd automatically think it's cool.

 

[CarBastard]

I'm just not gonna bother with the whole "beauty" discussion. Considering the thickness of some skulls, it's a lost effort 👎.

Can you imagine if cylinder 1 threw a rod through the block? The piston alone is the size of your face and at 6,000rpm it would blow the rod through the block, cover and right through you

That's exactly what I thought. Bad-ass. Simple as that. Is there anything more manly than riding a unique 70s supercar where you sit mere centimeters away from big, phat, fiery Hemi big-block that can shoot a piston right through you at any minute? Hardly.

 

[Slash]

..But even then, I think the only reason they give off that impression is that the body is so swoopy at the back, many cars from the 60s/70s had pretty generic designs for tail lights.

I would hardly call any of those generic.

 

[Zenith]

Aaaaaand out come the muscle cars. It took 3 pages this time!

 

[GTP_Ingram]

I would hardly call any of those generic.

many cars

That's why I didn't say "all cars"

 

[Leggy1]

Aaaaaand out come the muscle cars. It took 3 pages this time!

Cue the Muscle vs Euro sports cars debate...

 

[Jahgee]

Nope, if it's not directly about the Monteverdi Hai 450 SS, then it doesn't belong in the thread

 

[GranTurismo916]

Nope, if it's not directly about the Monteverdi Hai 450 SS, then it doesn't belong in the thread

The car has a muscle car engine!

 

[Slash]

The car has a muscle car engine!

Specifically Mopar.

 

[Roflwaffle]

Who knew the Swiss were so good at combining Classic Italian styling, a HEMI V8 and an awesome purple paint job? Sub Zero.

 

[daan]

Nope, if it's not directly about the Monteverdi Hai 450 SS, then it doesn't belong in the thread

And that is all that is needed.

 

[OriginalCheezIt]

I was editing my post to reflect that my thread got locked, @daan

I know when I've lost a battle

 

[Korza]

Can you imagine if cylinder 1 threw a rod through the block? The piston alone is the size of your face and at 6,000rpm it would blow the rod through the block, cover and right through you

This alone makes the car sub-zero!

 

[AnthonyD1993]

I was debating on whether or not I should vote it as cool or sub-zero until I saw the interior pictures. The fact that this car would kill you if the HEMI sends a rod through the block (as evidenced by the interior shot) on top of its styling made me vote sub-zero.

 

[Rage Racer]

- Classic
- mid-engine
- low
- powerful
- not a Lambo.

Cool.

 

[GranTurismo916]

This car can kill you with not much effort at all. Damn, shoulda voted S-Z.

 

[King Kraven]

Meh it does nothing for me. It doesn't give me any feeling. Its looks make me want to vomit but it's balanced out by the Hemi V8.

 

[Tornado]

It's 1970 and it's a supercar with wire wheels.

And wire wheels? It's 1970, not 1940. It's like putting a car phone in a new 2015 car

All them 1940s cars. : O





Lamborghini even offered the Miura with Borranis for the first couple of years, if you really wanted them, so...

 

[McLaren]

It looks like a turd in the back and a poorly built kit car in the front. Uniqueness does not equal beauty. It's lines are completely ungraceful. It you look at it from only the front it looks sort of like a Ferrari of the same era, and from the back some sort of French family car.

And wire wheels? It's 1970, not 1940. It's like putting a car phone in a new 2015 car.

Exactly, 1970. Manufacturers don't suddenly input brand new design schemes on the midnight of the new decade.

The taillights look utterly boring and unoriginal.

The windows behind the doors are too big, or they shouldn't be there at all. Windows like that belong on GT's, not MR's. Intakes would have been better.

Again, the fender flares, appear at odd angles and seem to stick out from the rest of the body too far.

The door handles are too low, especially for a low car.

This isn't forming an opinion, this is called nitpicking.

There isn't any "wrong" when it comes to beauty, it's all in the eye of thr beholder. The difference between us is that I'm giving reasons for my opinions while you are not. You are only interested in tearing down my opinion, which only pisses me off and doesn't help your cause. Lay off.

If there isn't any wrong when it comes to beauty being in the eye of the beholder, you can't ask someone to give you 5 reasons why it's not ugly in contrast to yours because he won't be "wrong". Esp. not when one of your reasons are door handles.

Not really sure about cool or not, but it is truly insane. This picture really tells you everything you need to know:

Of course there was an engine cover there, but still, how did anyone think this was a good idea?

Damn. I should have Sub-Zero based on that.

I would hardly call any of those generic.

characteristic of or relating to a class or group of things; not specific.

What do all those cars have in common for tail lights? 4 skinny horizontal rectangles, or 4 plus of short, fat, vertical rectangles.

So, @GTP_Ingram should thank you for proving his point.

 

[Roger the Horse]

Wire wheels.

 

[GTP_Ingram]

So, @GTP_Ingram should thank you for proving his point.

I dunno, I am pretty rude once you get to know me. I'm more likely to gloat.

 

[Tornado]

Also:

Looks like an inbred Miura/Europa mix.

Ugh. That massive wheel arch makes it look like a dually pickup truck. The exhausts stick out too far. The trunk lid looks unnatural in it's position.

It looks like a turd in the back and a poorly built kit car in the front. Uniqueness does not equal beauty. It's lines are completely ungraceful. It you look at it from only the front it looks sort of like a Ferrari of the same era, and from the back some sort of French family car.

That's all a very convoluted way to say "Alpine A310 With Exaggerated Proportions."

 

[Wiegert]

> French family car

Aye. I do often mistake that rear for a Citroen Xantia.

 

[McLaren]

Wire wheels.

I love how much the design of the wheels can completely affect the car's overall beauty. The standard wheels really help the Miura show off that image of a supercar with an elegant, but racecar design behind it. The wire wheels tone it down & the car has an almost classic Grand Tourer look to it; classy & sophisticated. On the opposite, those Miura wheels on the 350/400GT behind it now give the impressive of an aggressive 60's GT racer to compete against the GTOs.

Stunning cars all around, though admittedly biased.

 

[OriginalCheezIt]

I love wire wheels. Why? Not really sure. But I do love 'em.