GTP Le Mans Prototype Series - Season 4: INTEREST THREAD

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Which 6 Tracks do you want for Season 4

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To just throw it out there....i always thought the 680 hp was a better idea...the more hp the harder it for inexperienced people to drive(consistently at least)......at 900hp you are approaching corners much faster which requires alot more braking room.....most incidents happen under braking.....the best approach imo is to keep the braking short(by limiting the speed achieved before corner entry)...with the 680hp....1. its pretty realistic(what road racing series does anyone know that race 900hp and go around corners(thats not powerboat).2. 900hp to the rear wheels? in an endurance race?lol......i fell like theyres just going to be alot more accidents with 900hp. no one complained about the 680hp so why change it?
 
Bentley is quick but nothing crazy. Consistency is what wins the races.

Will be starting at the bottom of the hp spectrum when I sign on in an hour or so... starting at 550 and moving up.
 
I think performance points would be a better limiter because even though some cars will be faster on the straights, some will have better handling in the corners so they will post similar lap times. Just a suggestion.
 
Drum404
I think performance points would be a better limiter because even though some cars will be faster on the straights, some will have better handling in the corners so they will post similar lap times. Just a suggestion.
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performance points is just a random figure based on the weight, downforce and power of the car. In real life, racing cars all have to have a minimum weight and limit on the size of the air restrictor and things reagrding the engine meaning teams try to squeeze maximimum power from other parts of the engine.

I've strayed. What I meant to say was that if two different cars run equal performance points, one will be faster becuase it has a better chasis.
 
GT5_X2010
performance points is just a random figure based on the weight, downforce and power of the car. In real life, racing cars all have to have a minimum weight and limit on the size of the air restrictor and things reagrding the engine meaning teams try to squeeze maximimum power from other parts of the engine.

I've strayed. What I meant to say was that if two different cars run equal performance points, one will be faster becuase it has a better chasis.
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AND golf3e is 100% correct here
 
AT max hp, there will be more accidents on from the start, and it will make overtaking harder because your going much faster into turns and on the straights.

Not that i care that its easier, but there is always someone who is going to keep their gas pedal mashed to the floor when they shouldnt be., and this happens more with too much HP.
Its the Jeremy Clarkson "POWWWAA" Syndrome
 
bermudakid
Its the Jeremy Clarkson "POWWWAA" Syndrome
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It's a damn pandemic...

So, are you thinking about lowering or raising the bhp? So far, what I can see is that some cars improve at higher speeds (MINOLTA) while some improves at lower speeds (Courage, Bentley).

Hard to determine which way it should go at the moment.
 
bombe32
It's a damn pandemic...

So, are you thinking about lowering or raising the bhp? So far, what I can see is that some cars improve at higher speeds (MINOLTA) while some improves at lower speeds (Courage, Bentley).

Hard to determine which way it should go at the moment.
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i have no idea..... im just waiting for more "track data" . This is pretty much winter testing b4 the pre-season. Everyone should give it a go, if you dont post any times i dont wanna hear you complain once S4 starts , cuz im not gonna listen :rolleyes:
 
GT5_X2010
performance points is just a random figure based on the weight, downforce and power of the car. In real life, racing cars all have to have a minimum weight and limit on the size of the air restrictor and things reagrding the engine meaning teams try to squeeze maximimum power from other parts of the engine.

I've strayed. What I meant to say was that if two different cars run equal performance points, one will be faster becuase it has a better chasis.
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Yep.
 
bermudakid
i have no idea..... im just waiting for more "track data" . This is pretty much winter testing b4 the pre-season. Everyone should give it a go, if you dont post any times i dont wanna hear you complain once S4 starts , cuz im not gonna listen :rolleyes:
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I will be posting times starting next week. At the moment I am developing my rallycross regulations and creating the two excel spreadsheets. One is for the championship and the other is for any lap times you do. I have, rather proudly, added in a conditional formatting to the lap times spreadsheet which rates your lap time. However its more of a neccesity since at two tracks, anyone in the YELLOW (slow) lap times will not be allowed to race due to the tight nature of the track and short laps.
 
I don't have much time for winter testing, but to be honest I would be happy to see the rules and regs remain the same for Season 4. We have a good formula at the moment I say.
 
MikeTheHockeyFan
I don't have much time for winter testing, but to be honest I would be happy to see the rules and regs remain the same for Season 4. We have a good formula at the moment I say.
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I agree, any more or any less and you might bring forth even more problems, or make some cars better or worse. 680hp is the magic number imo.

Any more or less is going to ruin these cars and ruin the fun. Too much HP means more crashing or incidents, and we have enough so far. Keep the limit at 680hp, and just pray that Mav misses all races again :lol: Yes the Speed 8 is a rocket, clearly better than every other car by quite a margin, ban it if it's too fast, not switcharoo the regs to make it obsolete. Every car is so close as is. How many cars won races? The GTone, the 908, with the MINOLTA, 787B almost winning races. Pretty much every car that's been used has either won or almost won.
 
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There is one exception. The C9 is poor @680hp. Got plenty of downforce but it is painfully slow on the straights. Other than that, 680hp is good for close racing.
 
@Peter

Actually, the MINOLTA wasn't really close to getting a win. It was only in the first race I could've gotten 2nd, then the update (1.10) came and changed its tyre wear, making it much slower as the tyres wore down so quickly. As it is now, it's at disadvantage.

I would say a list of the weak cars at 680 is:

MINOLTA
R92CP
R89C
Sauber C9
Pesky Hybride

While the cars that have an advantage at the lower bhp class is:

Bentley
Pesky Courage
GT-ONE
Peugeot 908
Peugeot 905 (maybe, not entirely sure yet)

That's why it's hard to say whether the limit should go up or down at the moment. If everyone would do some laps in their different cars instead of (sorry) "just talk" about the cars, it would be much easier to find out which way to go.

Another factor is the setups, a third is the driver skill and driving style and so on.
 
Not all cars are equal in multi-make racing. i am perfectly okay with driving a slightly inferior car if I like a certain characteristic but have a slight disadvantage in other areas.

As it's already been said:

One part driver
One part setup
One part car
 
550Hp
787 - 1:22.400
Clk-LM - 1:24.134
905 - 1:23.595
Gt-ONE - 1:21.891
Bmw - 1:22.409
R8 Oreca - 1:21.691
C9 - 1:22.641
Minolta -.1:22.405
908 - 1:21.843
Jag - 1:23.792
R10 - 1:24.108
Judd gv5 - 1:22.969
C60 Hydride - 1:23.368
R89C - 1:23.147
R92 - 1:22.474

They're all really close until the last esses.. Most are within .5 going into them...

I'm sure I was being better at the track, but the c60 and r92 were up .1 - .3 going into those esses. Lost over a second thorough them.
 
tissimo
550Hp
787 - 1:22.400
Clk-LM - 1:24.134
905 - 1:23.595
Gt-ONE - 1:21.891
Bmw - 1:22.409
R8 Oreca - 1:21.691
C9 - 1:22.641
Minolta -.1:22.405
908 - 1:21.843
Jag - 1:23.792
R10 - 1:24.108
Judd gv5 - 1:22.969
C60 Hydride - 1:23.368
R89C - 1:23.147
R92 - 1:22.474

They're all really close until the last esses.. Most are within .5 going into them...

I'm sure I was being better at the track, but the c60 and r92 were up .1 - .3 going into those esses. Lost over a second thorough them.
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Looks like your our official tester. Nice work.
 
Looks like the R92 may have potential on the faster tracks. I'm going back to my Oreca R8 for thus season, its the only car ive ever won with.
 
Yea I was pleased with how the R92CP handled.. its predictable. It has a slower top speed then most, so it really made up in the corners.

updated the spreadsheet, and made it in time order. Will do the Bentley tomorrow at 550, I had it tuned for a race tonight so didn't want to mess with the gear and everything.
 
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Even with 70 kg of ballast the Bentley is only 0.2 slower a lap round Indy. To be honest though if no one thinks the Bentley is that good, why not just let it run as normal ;)
 
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