GTP Online Racing Bureau (GTP ORB) Now Hiring!

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(Thank you Wardez!)
We're currently looking for people to run license tests and manage our GoogleDocs!

Just had an idea about there being a governing body for a few of the leagues.
There could be a "board" of three to five people as chosen by a poll.
This board could review replays/select incidents, homologate cars, and hand out licenses based on experience.
This governing body can act as a third party to avoid arguments, and decide on matters that could cause arguments.
They can select people to drive pace cars, run rooms online, and watch the race.
Different leagues could require different license levels.

Just an idea I had, wondering what everyone else thinks of it.

List of Possible Board Members:
gogatrs
CAMjhr
R1600Turbo
EliteDreamer
JLawerence
Wardez
Peter.
akmuq
MitchZ06
shem
hawkeye122
lapierre4
TimberW
stevisiov
turbonutter69

Here's a list of things we plan on doing:
1)Accident Reviewal
2)Licensing System
3)Racing School
4).rar for Starting a Series
5)Unified Points System
6)Star Rating for Each Series
7)Penalty System for Bad Drivers
8)Approved Course Creator Tracks
9)Track Grading
10)Car Homologation
11)Name :dopey:

Once all this is done, we will need to begin handing out positions and "hiring" people.

1)The initial complaint will be heard by a single person. This person will decide who is at fault. If the accused or accuser feels that a biased or unfair decision was made, they can appeal to a panel of three judges who will make a final ruling on the matter.

2)Licenses can be used as a requirement to join a series, as well as a personal achievement. There are three initial licenses you can achieve: Amateur, Intermediate, and Advanced. For each level license there is a different time trial and series of 1v1 challenges you must complete. These become more difficult as you progress through the levels. In addition to these three, there are three more "A Class" licenses. To achieve an A Class license, you must first pass and achieve an Advanced license, and then you must have finished at least five races. This is to achieve an Amateur A Class license. To achieve an Intermediate A Class license, you must win at least one race, to achieve an Advanced A Class license, you have to have won at least five races. There is one final license that you can achieve once you have earned all others. This is the Super License which is gained when you have won a series championship.

3)Racing Schools will be an optional service that we provide. They will provide students with basic racing techniques and knowledge as well as help shave those last few tenths off of your lap times. We will have seminars and workshops that can teach students anything from tuning to drifting.

4)A series "Start Up Kit" will eventually be introduced. It will be a .rar file that contains various materials that aid new comers in starting up series.

5)After discussion on the topic of a unified points system, it has been decided that we will instead have two or three Suggested Points systems that will allow people to choose one that they like best. They are not required to use one of these systems, but it is recommended.

6)Instead of stars, we will use four tiers. Each series will be assigned to a tier by a board of three-five people based on the competitiveness and organization of the series.
Tier one will consist of the most elite series, while tier four will have series that have many issues that need fixing. A majority of the series will be in tier two and three.

7)The same judge or judges from the accident reviewal will decide on a penalty. This penalty could be anything from a points deduction, to a time penalty, to a simple warning, or in extreme cases: suspension and/or expulsion. These penalties will be documented and recorded to a public record.

8/9)These will be added at a later date.

Thanks to Wardez:

1) Racing incident review and inspection.

2) License administration

3) ORB Institute for Driver Excellence Academy (ORB IDEA)

4) Racing series development package (.rar start up kit)

5) Racing event inspection and ORB Tiered certification

6) Standardized racing regulations and penalty structure.

7) Promotion and grading of event dates and race courses.

8) Vehicle homologation


Jobs (keep in mind, any one can volunteer for any of these):

Racing incident steward -
(judge pretty much). Would investigate and handle all aspects of a
racing incident review along with many other co-operating stewards in order
to come to a final agreed upon course of action to suggest to the
racing series organizer.

License test administrators - Dish out the tests. Tell us what times
you're available to test people and give us your E-mail so we can add
you to the registration database here: http://bit.ly/ORBsignup
They will be responsible for keeping
track of each person they test by keeping a record and inputting the
results of the sessions in the testing database.

Review commitee members - An "RCM" will also be part of a group of
people that will review different submitted racing series and
collaborate with other RCMs in order to come to a final rating. The
original RCM that picked up the specific series registration will also stay in
contact and ask questions to the series organizer in order to
finalize the process.

Google Doc's Editor - Just need an E-mail to add you. These people will
need to be very familiar with Google Doc's Spreadsheets and their
functionality in order to help train other people volunteering for ORB learn their way and assist in maintaining the various
spreadhseets we use in ORB.

Promoter - Help us grow and stay in good standing. Go out and PM
people for anything and everything. Call yourself a promoter of ORB.

I.D.E.A Driving Instructor - Instructors will set up their own
workshops which they will announce in the ORB thread. These workshops
can be scheduled or put-on on impulse but the structure is totally up to the
instructor on what will be focused on and taught.

Homologation tester - Once we reach the stage of homologation of cars
for despensing of suggested balanced performance values for use in
racing series we will need a group of dedicated drivers in order to
test different specifications for vehicles in order to maintain them
all on a closely performing balance of power reflected in average
lap times. You will need to supply your E-mail address in order to be
added to a spreadsheet where test results will be submitted and
archived.

Press/article writer - This job is for the journalist in you. People
who are interested in interviewing and reporting on all the aspects of
ORB and its sanctioned series can help us here. Approved writers will
have full creative freedom in letting people know what racing in ORB
is all about. Series of the week, interview with series organizers and
race winners or champions, articles on the history of GT5 racing
online, tabloids, scandals etc.

Livestreamer (just me right now with my PVR, hah) - People with streaming/capture
devices are all welcome to post their livestream channels and
volunteer their time in being official race series observers by
streaming and covering a scheduled ORB race live!



1: Racing incident review and inspection -

1.1.Incident scrutinizing and review is a voluntary process. Any
registered ORB participant, organizer or not, may apply for racing
incident review. All application for review of accidents, incidents,
collisions, penalties, or exploitations will be considered for
immediate review. All incidents must be submitted in the format
provided through the official 'Racing Review Request' or "Triple R"
form linked in the home Online Racing Bureau thread.

1.2. The process begins when a qualified steward offers to pick up a
case. He begins the quick review cycle, which is validation of the
submission, by making sure that all requested information is met. If
all factors are not submitted the steward will contact the applicant
and solicit the required information until it is met. The cycle does
not continue until then.

1.3. After validation the steward is required to engage the review
with two other stewards in order to begin the inspection stage.
Inspection follows guidelines set forth by the sanctioning body in
order to fairly judge a racing incident, place blame, and recommend a
course of action to discipline the driver put to blame in the matter,
whether plaintiff or defendant.

1.4. Due to the nature of the PlayStation Network and Gran Turismo 5's
online racing environment the ORB does not settle social disputes or
matters of personal offense. Only racing incidents on track that are
verifiable through replays will be considered.

1.5. Materials required to qualify for full incident evaluation:
a. Short summary describing the event

b. Exported .rpy file from the race event in question. If it is at all
suspected that the incident was caused not due to driver error but
network instability a .rpy from the defendant must be received in
order to be accepted for review and to successfully settle all disputes.

c. Names of both drivers

d. Date incident occurred

e. Lap on which the incident occurred

f. Race series

Optional:
g. Witness testimony giving an alternative subjective interpretation of the incident.



2: License administration -
Note: All new registrants are automatically given a "beginner" license. This is so that some series that opt to not require license testing may still be ORB sanctioned and qualify for all services but accept drivers more freely.

2.1. These are the testing formats for each license level:
a. Amateur - CAR on TRACK : TARGET TIME
b. Intermediate - CAR on TRACK : TARGET TIME
c. Advanced - CAR on TRACK : TARGET TIME

2.2. The Online Racing Bureau distributes its own online racing
licenses for the purpose of quickly identifying participating drivers'
racing skill based against a series of tests that are administered by
ORB stewards.

2.3. All testing is done through online racing lobbies, this is to
avoid the practice of needing to "add" PlayStation Network tags in order to
use private lounges. Tests consist of time trials set in different
scenarios using the supplied recommended online car garage and tracks
featured in Gran Turismo 5.

2.4. The testing process takes place as follows:
a. Test room event settings - Game Mode: Normal Race, Number of laps: 5, Start Type: Grid Start, Boost: Off, Penalty: Weak, Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real, Mechanical Damage: Heavy, Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption: Off.

b. All prospective license holders are required to first submit their intent by completing the required registration form linked to in the
home thread of the ORB.

c. In order to pass a test the driver must successfully meet a
required target total time by beating it in a time trial set over 5 laps.

d. A testing administrator will evaluate the registration of the driver applicant and contact
the registrant to arrange a testing session.

e. Testing resumes in a Gran Turismo 5 online racing lobby.

f. The driver will be asked by the steward to enter the track. The
admin. will start the 5 lap race.

g. The driver will begin his warm up lap then commence his four lap
time trial.

h. No talking will be allowed once the session starts, vocal or text.
Although there will be certain distracting circumstances beyond the control of the testing
administrator. This is due to the online nature of Gran Turismo 5.

i. We face no responsibility for any other players joining the room, invited or otherwise,
during a session send a message before an administrator is able to kick the player out of the room.
Part of the test is whether a driver can manage himself well under
these various pressures.

j. Once the player has completed the test the administrator will
tabulate the times then inform the driver of his provisional time.

k. Further verification of the submitted test time will be done and
the result will be a private message to the testing driver informing
him whether he/she passed or failed.

l. If a driver has passed he will be given the opportunity to test on
the same day for a higher license. All the same regulations will apply
as usual.



2.5. Terms of testing quality acceptance.

a. If all regular rule and network conditions are met, the test will
go ahead. If for any reason the administrator notices a delay in start
due to network lag or other irregularity judged to be significant by
the steward all testing will be discontinued until the problems are
corrected and a new room/connection to the host is deemed by the
admin. to be viable for testing.

b. All testing room conditions must be exactly correct and
corresponding session replays must saved in order to be confirmed and
accepted as an official testing session.

c. Cutting corners, using restricted run off or other areas outside
the track boundaries will immediately disqualify the testing driver.
The driver will be denied another chance and must wait 24 hours from
the start of the last attempt in order to try again.
They will not have any previously awarded licenses remitted.

d. No inflicted accidents due to driver error will disqualify the
driver unless they themselves voluntarily disconnect or other wise
stop the testing session.



2.6. Higher race performance based license levels:

a. In addition to the three aforementioned license levels there are
three more "A Class" licenses.

b. To begin your way to an A Class license, you must first pass and
achieve an Advanced license.

c. To achieve an Intermediate A Class license you must undisputedly
win one ORB sanctioned race where at least seven other drivers
finished the race with you. This is to achieve an Intermediate A Class
license.

d. To achieve an Advanced A Class license you must undisputedly win
four ORB sanctioned races where at least seven other drivers finished
the race with you. This is to achieve an Intermediate A Class license.

e. A Super license is granted once you've been confirmed to be the
undisputed champion in a GTP ORB sanctioned racing series with a
racing schedule of more than five races spread over at least four
weeks.

f. All race wins, podiums, and pole positions are required to be
reported by your racing organizer to the Bureau to be recorded in a
master list of ORB driver statistics. These will be used in order to verify
each win needed to complete A class licenses.



3: Racing event inspection and ORB Tiered certification -

3.1. Series rating structure:
a. The ORB rates participating racing series on a Tier based system.
This starts at the ultimate rating being Tier 1 reserved for the most
elite to a Tier 4 which is a placeholder that serves to indicate to
the organizer that their series, as it stands, is not fit enough for
good, fun, and consistent racing. All parties will be given a full
personalized report on exactly why they got a certain rating by a ORB
review committee member.

b. Only review committee members are authorized to distribute the
"Tier bubble" badges that all certified series are encouraged to
display prominently on their series original post. Do not display a
tier rating until specified to do so in a PM by a committee member.

c. You are not absolutely required to display this rating but we will
keep a database of all registered racing series for
archival/statistical purposes.

d. Tier ratings and license levels do not correlate unless you want
them to. Series organizers are allowed to accept any and all licensees
in any combination they do so desire.
 
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I think it's a good idea but the people required to do all these things will be hard to find I think.
How would you go about setting up a licence system?
 
I can see this becoming far too complicated far too quickly. It's an idea but it'd be hard to get just right in its execution.
 
If we start on a small scale with just a few series being a part of this, and gradually grow bigger, I think it might be worth a shot.

It would help to filter out some of the drivers that will sign up, but never be heard from again.
 
I've had the same thought since GT2. It's an awesome idea, and I don't think it would be super complicated with some hard work.
 
You would have to have some sort of penalty system for repeat offenders too. Like a "probation" type thing or penalties in subsequent races in the series the incident happened in.
 
CAMjhr
You would have to have some sort of penalty system for repeat offenders too. Like a "probation" type thing or penalties in subsequent races in the series the incident happened in.

And taking away a license...
 
Well if it was a series of racing incidents that earned said penalty, there should probably be a softer punishment than losing the license altogether. Like a points deduction or disqualification from a series race.
 
CAMjhr
Well if it was a series of racing incidents that earned said penalty, there should probably be a softer punishment than losing the license altogether. Like a points deduction or disqualification from a series race.

See, all this can be discussed and decided on in the future...
 
disinfected
Well that already happens in most series.

Oh, I wouldn't know, I don't have time to be in a regular series. I was just thinking from a higher body's standpoint, which punishments would be easiest to assess and inflict.
 
I would suggest a database with information including the offenders' type and number of infractions.
 
CAMjhr
I would suggest a database with information including the offenders' type and number of infractions.

A google docs spreadsheet would most likely be in order.
 
Sounds good to me. Have fun keeping up with every single race series, although I don't know how many there are. It sounds like you'll need some serious help for this.
 
I've already started something like this, guys! The ISCF (Intercontinental Sports Car Federation). You should join!

Edit: It's a governing body AND a tournanment!
 
CAMjhr
Sounds good to me. Have fun keeping up with every single race series, although I don't know how many there are. It sounds like you'll need some serious help for this.

[/Sarcasm] :P

It wouldn't be EVERY race series.
We would start off with just a few.
Gradually we'd grow bigger, and if any of the board members start to feel overwhelmed, well accept applications for more.
 
That really is a fantastic idea. I'm not good with constant responsibility, but if you ever need an unbiased ear for a decision, feel free to shoot me a PM 👍.
 
I don't think I'll be doing much haha.

EDIT: Whoops, I totally misread your post, rocko. Disregard me :lol:.
 
rocko100
So gatrs are you gonna kind of be the GTP Bernie eccelstone?

Moar POWER!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:P
So if anyone else is interested in being part of the "board," post, and we can get things started.

We also need to come up with a name...
 
Like I said, I'd be happy to judge anything that needs to be judged, I just can't handle databases or giving out discipline. :lol:
 
CAMjhr
Like I said, I'd be happy to judge anything that needs to be judged, I just can't handle databases or giving out discipline. :lol:

👍
I'll start a list of those interested in the OP.
 
Just PM me whatever needs to be looked at when the time comes.
 
👍 We should have different positions. Judge, as I said. Someone can monitor the actual series and handle complaints and conflicts, and gatrs can handle the database.
 

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