GTP WRS-Online (*GT6*): Event 122 : Fuji(Nissan) GT(-R) V2.0 - January 22, 2014

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The pole sitter can make the formation lap easy or hard. If they let the pack compress before the final corner and then slowly increase pace to the speed limit and then stick there the entire pack should be close. But if they are erratic it can create a lot of odd gaps in the grid. Usually the pole sitter is somewhat experienced so hopefully in official races things will go smoothly.
 
The more competition the better.
I made the comment early hoping some on the fence may stick with it.

I forget who, but someone did post that they were disappointed in their performance and wouldn't be coming back. I feel for him and I hope he reads the comments that followed.

Because there are so many in game time trials, I'll likely stick to the racing series for the head to head fun.

Looking forward to Fuji!! (I hate that track!) :)

That might be me you're talking about. It wasn't that I was disappointed with my performance, it was that I am intimidated and very nervous about racing with others, fearing that I will unintentionally cause an accident and ruin others races. I won't be coming back because I am simply not skilled enough to be racing with such a talented group of people. I would just be in the way and unintentionally causing mishaps due to my lack of experience. I have decided to just stick with running the time trials, which I am more comfortable doing. I am perfectly fine with this, after all, I am the "TimeTrialWarrior". :)
 
Practice room up: 1472-4711-0510-9355-5053 Closed.

Feel free to join.
 
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That might be me you're talking about. It wasn't that I was disappointed with my performance, it was that I am intimidated and very nervous about racing with others, fearing that I will unintentionally cause an accident and ruin others races. I won't be coming back because I am simply not skilled enough to be racing with such a talented group of people. I would just be in the way and unintentionally causing mishaps due to my lack of experience. I have decided to just stick with running the time trials, which I am more comfortable doing. I am perfectly fine with this, after all, I am the "TimeTrialWarrior". :)
Common Mitch, you are faster and more talented than I and a lot of racers who participate in the Online races. Read other posts in regards to you're posts and take it as positive remarks! I respect you're position on the online races, but put the time into them that you put into the TT's and you will conquer those fears!! You will come out for a better all around competitor. IMO :sly:👍
 
I guess my earlier comment about people who don't return may have been more about those with a possible ego issue but I do understand the fear of racing head to head and the impresion you'll make on others.
Just remember, it's not about you. Everyone else is thinking about themselves and the job at hand.
Besides if you're in someones way, that means your ahead of them and most likely where you belong. Getting by you is their problem. If your worried about them, your not looking ahead and they will pass you.
Not only should you be looking ahead but you should be looking past the guy in front of you. Do that and odds are a hell of lot better thats where you'll end up; ahead of them.
Don't quite!
 
Good practice for NA tonight. 👍

Bart showed me around the track. :D

Tim and GTP_K1utch showed up and it came time to race.

I dropped out of the race after falling back, so that I could watch this moment live on Watch Race. :dopey:

Great finish!

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GTP_PASM -------------------------- GTP_WRP001 ---------------------GTP_K1utch
 
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I guess my earlier comment about people who don't return may have been more about those with a possible ego issue but I do understand the fear of racing head to head and the impresion you'll make on others.
Just remember, it's not about you. Everyone else is thinking about themselves and the job at hand.
Besides if you're in someones way, that means your ahead of them and most likely where you belong. Getting by you is their problem. If your worried about them, your not looking ahead and they will pass you.
Not only should you be looking ahead but you should be looking past the guy in front of you. Do that and odds are a hell of lot better thats where you'll end up; ahead of them.
Don't quite!

Seriously, your saying that just because I choose not to return is because I have an ego problem??? I thought I stated, quite clearly, the reasons why I am choosing not to compete. Sure, I may be D2, but that was earned in time trialing obviously, which is a far cry from having good race pace/race craft, which I do not. I have zero experience in race situations. And by no means do I think its about me. Again, a very wrong assumption on your part. The only reason I have stated any of this, is only to let my fellow racers here aware of my situation and the reasons why I don't take part in any race events, that's all. Your comments here couldn't be further from the truth, as far as my situation is concerned. I must say, I am pretty offended by your comments/accusations here. Ego issue :rolleyes:, that's some funny stuff. :lol:
 
Seriously, your saying that just because I choose not to return is because I have an ego problem??? I thought I stated, quite clearly, the reasons why I am choosing not to compete. Sure, I may be D2, but that was earned in time trialing obviously, which is a far cry from having good race pace/race craft, which I do not. I have zero experience in race situations. And by no means do I think its about me. Again, a very wrong assumption on your part. The only reason I have stated any of this, is only to let my fellow racers here aware of my situation and the reasons why I don't take part in any race events, that's all. Your comments here couldn't be further from the truth, as far as my situation is concerned. I must say, I am pretty offended by your comments/accusations here. Ego issue :rolleyes:, that's some funny stuff. :lol:

He didn't say that. He said his earlier comments were about those with an ego issue, those that may go in overconfident, get beaten and quit. In case you stay out because you simply don't feel like racing head to head, that is an other thing, and that is not what his original post was about (in my understanding).
 
I sure respect your opinion mitch, but i really hope there aren't too many thinking the same way, i would be driving lonely at the back with a couple of aliens way in front of me.


Ok, you have a lack in experience in driving with others, like many of us, but that is why we practice.
You have to start somwhere.

If you really aren't enjoying driving with us, stick with TT, you have to do what you enjoy, but don't deny yourself the fun of online racing for the sake of others
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Getting comfortable only comes with time and practice!
 
I sure respect your opinion mitch, but i really hope there aren't too many thinking the same way, i would be driving lonely at the back with a couple of aliens way in front of me.


Ok, you have a lack in experience in driving with others, like many of us, but that is why we practice.
You have to start somwhere.

If you really aren't enjoying driving with us, stick with TT, you have to do what you enjoy, but don't deny yourself the fun of online racing for the sake of others
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Getting comfortable only comes with time and practice!

I'm going to join the Academy, when/if it becomes available. I do enjoy racing with you guys, but I am simply uncomfortable and too inexperienced to do so at this point. Its better if I start from the bottom and work my way up. :) I have a lot to learn and can't do it in a few practice sessions before each official race. You have to crawl before you walk. ;)
 
For sure that will depend on track & combo. ;)

As soon as you have less fuel on the tank the time are going down 1.42.010 online ;)

Nice race Robert:tup:

For your info, I allways leave room to pass when we practice race for fun, don't hesitate :cheers:
I cant even get to the 43s on quarter of a tank, 2 corners are my weekness and lack of markers per corner is make me over and under brake to often.

Congrates to Deathstar for a 43.9 early on.
 
I'm going to join the Academy, when/if it becomes available. I do enjoy racing with you guys, but I am simply uncomfortable and too inexperienced to do so at this point. Its better if I start from the bottom and work my way up. :) I have a lot to learn and can't do it in a few practice sessions before each official race. You have to crawl before you walk. ;)
Yeah! That's what I will participate in the Academy races, good choice Mitch. :sly: :gtpflag:
 
Seriously, your saying that just because I choose not to return is because I have an ego problem??? I thought I stated, quite clearly, the reasons why I am choosing not to compete. Sure, I may be D2, but that was earned in time trialing obviously, which is a far cry from having good race pace/race craft, which I do not. I have zero experience in race situations. And by no means do I think its about me. Again, a very wrong assumption on your part. The only reason I have stated any of this, is only to let my fellow racers here aware of my situation and the reasons why I don't take part in any race events, that's all. Your comments here couldn't be further from the truth, as far as my situation is concerned. I must say, I am pretty offended by your comments/accusations here. Ego issue :rolleyes:, that's some funny stuff. :lol:

Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The ego comment was more general and I was trying to make a distinction between racing with unrealistic expectations and the fear we all experience to varying degrees. I get it.
Your concerns are relatable to a lot of people so I think we can all benefit from your openness and honesty.
Remember, it's just for fun. Your respect for other drivers is appreciated and we need more drivers like you.
 
I ran them n have the replays..but i dont have a usb storage device for taking it out atm..

@cheba and @See23 have submitted their WRS qualifiers, so will be receiving PM's soon to confirm that they can race on Wed. 👍

@Seize_HKS and @brisbane956 and @Luni Legacy : You have signed up but haven't submitted your qualifiers yet. You need to submit them today if you want to race tomorrow.
Seize_HKS, you might try hooking your phone (if you have one) up to the PS3 to see if it will act as a USB drive.
 
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Important Announcement on Lobby Assignments

(Starting Next Week at Apricot Hill)​

NOTE: The following "wall of text" will not apply until next week, but we wanted to announce early because participation in the time trial, which is already ongoing, could be advantageous although in no way required.

A more formal formula will be used to determine lobby assignments.

First, every driver that confirms their registration will be ranked using an event specific handicap equal to the minimum (best) of the following:
  1. Handicap from the official registry (driver does nothing, falls back on official handicap)
  2. Handicap from the official time trial (driver included in official time trial results)
  3. Handicap computed using an unofficial offline ghost lap replay
    • Must conform to all time trial rules and be attached to a post in the online thread
    • Submitted after TT deadline on Monday @ 23:59 GMT
    • Submitted at least 8 hours prior to the event start time
  4. Handicap computed using the best clean lap of an online steward observed qualification race
    • Tire wear set to off, but otherwise conforming to online regulations
    • 5 lap race: 1 out lap, 3 timed hot laps, 1 cool down lap.
    • Scheduled with steward ahead of time (plan ahead and request via thread)
    • Completed at least 3 hours prior to the event start time

Second, we will sort the confirmed drivers 90 minutes prior to the race and divide them up evenly. If there are an odd numbers of drivers the extra driver will be assigned to the A room. At that point the stewards convene and assign a director and supporting steward for each lobby. Then at about 50-60 minutes prior to the race the room #s and driver assignments will be published to the thread.



Reserves: Drivers with reserve status at 90 minutes prior to event start will not be included in the lobby assignments, but will be listed with their applicable handicap in a reserve list. They will have to request on the thread to be added to a lobby and the assignment will be at the discretion of the stewards. In that case handicap will be used as a guide, but there are no guarantees last minute confirms/entries will get the room you want and in some rare cases may not get to race at all (e.g. if the room split is such that there is two full rooms or if the new driver would create an additional room that wouldn't be supportable with the number of stewards available). Reserves will be handled on a first to request basis using the online race thread. Do not use the google form to confirm/register at the last minute, but use a thread post instead. If you are on reserve list or not listed at all in the lobby assignments do not join a room until instructed to do so.



Abuse: Because confirming guarantees you a grid spot it's important that nobody abuses the status. If you are fairly confident (80%) you are going to make the race sign up as confirmed ahead of time, but it's important you update your status as you get more information and for sure no later than 90 minutes prior to the race. At that point if you are not 99% sure you should be on reserve. This is a courtesy we ask, not only for the admins/stewards, but also for the benefit of other drivers that have accurately stated their status. We're going to use a three strike rule. A confirmed driver that "no shows" will receive 2 strikes. A confirmed driver that cancels less than 90 minutes of the race, but before race start will get 1 strike. Three strikes in any 8 week period and the driver risks being suspended from the online participation for 8 weeks. We know "stuff happens" and real life comes first so this allows some forgiveness, but we can't manage multiple rooms effectively if we don't know at least a bit ahead of time who is going to be showing up and we can't have people taking advantage of the system to guarantee their spot at the cost of someone else.


These rules will only apply for weekly Wednesday events where more than 16 drivers are confirmed. In the case of 16 or less the situation is more relaxed as the stewards just open up one lobby, all confirmed drivers are guaranteed a spot, and reserves are given grid spots on a first come first serve basis.

Goals of these rules?
  • Creates lounges of similar paced drivers equitably without relying on honor based practice laps.
  • Allows drivers that have improved beyond their handicap to qualify in a "faster" lounge.
  • Allows drivers that did not have time to run the TT to submit an offline lap well after the official TT deadline.
  • Allows drivers to run in an online setup to qualify if they don't want to deal with offline replays. These could be done during any of the practice sessions as long as a steward is present to observe.
  • Allows drivers to fall back on registry handicap if they have no time to pre-qualify.

We hope/expect the vast majority of drivers are covered by their handicap or TT result and the other two options are only used in a few cases each week. Drivers who have not been official processed should take advantage of #3 or #4 or they will be "approximately" assigned based on our best guess of their handicap.

Also note that the above procedures will typically only apply to lobby assignments. Within each lobby there will still be a pre-race qualification session to determine grid order.
 
Sorry for the misunderstanding.
The ego comment was more general and I was trying to make a distinction between racing with unrealistic expectations and the fear we all experience to varying degrees. I get it.
Your concerns are relatable to a lot of people so I think we can all benefit from your openness and honesty.
Remember, it's just for fun. Your respect for other drivers is appreciated and we need more drivers like you.

Alright, I understand where you are coming from now and do apologize for my part in the misunderstanding. I may still take part in the practice sessions if that is allowed, but I will sit out the actual races until I get more comfortable and more experience in race type situations. Also, like I stated before, I plan on taking part in the WRS Academy when/if it becomes available. I don't plan on winning the races when I do enter, that is not my point in this. I only want to have some degree of confidence and experience when racing around others, that is my only goal here at this time. The wins will come later....maybe. :lol: Anyway, those are my plans and my outlook on things. Thanks for replying to clear things up. :cheers:
 
@GTP_CargoRatt, it's absolutely allowed to participate in practices even if you don't plan to attend the official races. 👍

IMO, people were nice and meant well to encourage Mitch, but at this point just let him make his own decision. As we state in each thread, members are not obligated to take part, and should do so only if they want to and will have fun doing so. No pressure here, do as you wish and enjoy whatever you do.

PS> All of you, don't forget to read my wall of text a few posts above even if it hurts. Comments welcome.
 
@GTP_CargoRatt, it's absolutely allowed to participate in practices even if you don't plan to attend the official races. 👍

IMO, people were nice and meant well to encourage Mitch, but at this point just let him make his own decision. As we state in each thread, members are not obligated to take part, and should do so only if they want to and will have fun doing so. No pressure here, do as you wish and enjoy whatever you do.

PS> All of you, don't forget to read my wall of text a few posts above even if it hurts. Comments welcome.

Alright, thank you for the confirmation on the practices. I sure will join in when I can pull myself away from the TT's, :)

Also, any idea when/if the WRS Academy will be up and running?

Again, thanks for everyone's concern, I just need to take it slow and build up my confidence. Thanks again guys, your kindness and understanding is much appreciated. :cheers:
 
Hard to imagine guys running 41s.!?
Is it the draft or are they just that good?
...probly just that good.:drool:
 
Hard to imagine guys running 41s.!?
Is it the draft or are they just that good?
...probly just that good.:drool:

No, the aliens without draft and with tire wear on are capable of a 41.1 on a perfect lap. I can run 41.5 in draft following Bart without too much trouble, but ~41.8 limit on a near perfect lap without any assist. I regularly get very low 42 and it takes putting it all together to see a 41.

The nice thing about Fuji is I can still stick with Bart for extended periods even though I'm about 0.5 slower for an average lap. If he's battling with someone I can even close up if I sniff any draft. But one mistake allowing him to pull out of draft range and it's a slow painful process of watching him get smaller and smaller without any recourse... I just can't maintain his pace even on my best unassisted laps.
 
Planning is in progress, I don't want to pull a Chris and give a time estimate, but just know that it is on it's way 👍
Planning is in progress, I don't want to pull a Chris and give a time estimate, but just know that it is on it's way 👍

Alright, thanks friend. Very much looking forward to it.
 
Fuji is a very good circuit as I have come to appreciate. I used to hate it with its unusual turns, but as I have run more laps it is becoming one of my favorite tracks. I have no expectation to podium, but I love the close racing with others that run close to my times. Battling for 6,7, or 8 is fun for me, it would be nice to win some day, but that day is a long way off. The place to use caution in is in the draft on the long straight, the braking time is much longer than without draft. Brake early, you will not lose that much time as long as you hit the exit correctly. If you brake at your normal mark, you will cause mayhem to those in front and in back of you. I know, I did it in one of the practice heats.
 
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