GTP_Registry Discussion Thread (GT5)

[Vince_Fiero]

Am i the only one running with the 4 tires on the track at all times?!?!!?
Must be really slow compared to you guys.


I always try to make very clean laps.

cheers

I stated before my best times are very clean. I did hit curbs, but no grass from what I remember.

The images are spectacular and generally when something went wrong or was tested. The fastest way is to have traction on the track, that means no jumps if not needed, no smoke, no squeaking, ...

But you should find out where it jumps unneeded, where it starts to smoke, where it starts squeaking, ... so that you can drive as close as possible to this.

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[HBR-Roadhog]

For the most part I am 4 wheels on the track. I do use the rumble strips an cobbles and from time to time will get 2 in the grass but would rather have hard surface under the wheels.

Sounds like I did not put in as much time as a lot of people [less than an hour] so will be interesting to see where I end up.

 

[GTP_DANNY-D]

Hey guys im still a little new to all of this,i was just wondering is it only the top ten quickest in each devision that have to submit a repley aswell as there times?

 

[ASH32]

Hey guys im still a little new to all of this,i was just wondering is it only the top ten quickest in each devision that have to submit a repley aswell as there times?

The top ten WILL have to submit a replay, but anyone else could have to if the admins request them too. This will only be done after the results are published, you don't send a replay when you PM your details.

Take a good look here:- GTP_Registry Qualifier - GT5

 

[Vaxen]

I've saw holl01 sector 2

He was/is 🤬 agressive !! But this is why he is fast...

And, i'm not joking, i saw his lap on YouTube, but i think he deleted the vid

Just a quick note on this: holl01 (MarkWebber) posted his sector 2 effort on YouTube, but this is a violation of the rules as laid out in the qualifier thread:

• Do not discuss privately or post publicly any of your splits or final times, or anything relating to this qualifier that would indicate a sector time or a full lap time. By taking part in this qualifier you therefore agree to this very strict ruling

This includes publicly revealing times or splits on other sites. He removed the video at our request, but that particular effort will not be allowed in his submission. We also reserve the right to disqualify submissions by any participant who violates the rules in this manner.

 

[DOUQA]

Damn! I would love to see that video. I'd find out how far off the pace I really am.

 

[Vaxen]

Damn! I would love to see that video. I'd find out how far off the pace I really am.

I can understand the sentiment, but the restriction won't be lifted unless and until we change the qualifier. (Even after the results are posted.)

However, when the qualifier results are posted, each submission will be listed with a rating which will give you an idea of where you placed relative to those in your division, as well as other divisions.

 

[dudeondacouch]

Not that it makes a big deal to me personally, but since some members watched his video, shouldn't the disallowed time be publicly posted?

 

[BlacqueJacques]

Not that it makes a big deal to me personally, but since some members watched his video, shouldn't the disallowed time be publicly posted?

C'mon man!

Patience!

I'm doing my quali tomorrow (taking a day off to do it )

 

[dudeondacouch]

C'mon man!

Patience!

I'm doing my quali tomorrow (taking a day off to do it )

Why do I need to be patient? I'm done with the qualifier.

 

[Vaxen]

Not that it makes a big deal to me personally, but since some members watched his video, shouldn't the disallowed time be publicly posted?

Given that it would violate our own rules, the answer would have to be no.

 

[Adrenaline]

Given that it would violate our own rules, the answer would have to be no.

I think he's referring to a poker type situation. Where if a single player at the table sees an exposed card, it must be turned over for everyone to see.

In this example, since "someone" saw the video and the time of the run, then everyone should be entitled to knowing that time as well. Otherwise the advantage lies within the few who did get to see it, prior to removal.

*This is my understanding of the post, not my opinion on the subject.

 

[Apollo33]

I think he's referring to a poker type situation. Where if a single player at the table sees an exposed card, it must be turned over for everyone to see.

In this example, since "someone" saw the video and the time of the run, then everyone should be entitled to knowing that time as well. Otherwise the advantage lies within the few who did get to see it, prior to removal.

*This is my understanding of the post, not my opinion on the subject.

How does a time give anyone an advantage? I don't see why anyone should care. You do your best, get placed with people of similar skill, and then enjoy the competition. Simple.

 

[racingfreak01]

Because then you are chasing a time and not just driving to what you believe to be your max...there will be enough chasing times in each weeks tt

 

[Apollo33]

Because then you are chasing a time and not just driving to what you believe to be your max...there will be enough chasing times in each weeks tt

Well if knowing a time will make me drive better, someone give me a time!

 

[MisterWeary]

Just submitted 👍

As for having a time to race against, just use your own?!? When you can't beat it any more then you've probably reached your limit 👍

 

[GTP_mullta]

Just signing up to register, hope to see you all out on track!

 

[Anghammarad]

I have not seen Holland's video but from past experience I know that here is little help in seeing it anyway since it will be impossible for 95% of us to even understand how it is done.

For myself I am doing not good at all. I can't get the pieces together and are starting to tire of the qualifier. I'll probably have to resign myself to the fact that I will not be able to race in the same division as earlier, and just submit.

 

[Adrenaline]

How does a time give anyone an advantage? I don't see why anyone should care. You do your best, get placed with people of similar skill, and then enjoy the competition. Simple.

Let's say you run what you feel is your best lap at Track X in Car X and your time is a 1:01:555.

If I say, I took that same car, with that same exact set up, and drove a 1:01.499. Wouldn't you think to yourself "Maybe I can do a little better..." Especially if you knew that the 1:01.499 represented 1st place?

You don't think you might second guess your 'best' and try again?

If you say no, I call BS.

On the other hand, I agree with you. Do what you can, get placed where you're placed and enjoy the competition, regardless of what level it is.

But I only agree with you, when I don't know what times I'm going against. Ignorance is bliss.

 

[Stotty]

Based on Dan's previous form on GT games I wouldn't worry about it... as Anghammarad says, the vast majority of people won't be able to comprehend how you can go that fast, never mind be able to do it themselves.

I've chased Dan's ghosts numerous times in TT's over the years, and even with a ghost to chase I've always struggled to keep him in sight

Best to just get your head down and concentrate on your own lap 👍

 

[Anghammarad]

Let's say you run what you feel is your best lap at Track X in Car X and your time is a 1:01:555.

If I say, I took that same car, with that same exact set up, and drove a 1:01.499. Wouldn't you think to yourself "Maybe I can do a little better..." Especially if you knew that the 1:01.499 represented 1st place?

Yes, but in this particular case first place is not 1'01.499 but rather 0'54.867 or some other completely silly time. It does not help you to know that. When the WRS starts and you will be able to see the replays of these Aliens driving a time trial you will understand exactly how little help they are. Impressive and inspiring to watch no doubt, but not very helpful.

 

[Small_Fryz]

If you dont happen to qualify where you want to, then you have great motivation to improve over the next few weeks in the WRS. Its not impossible to get a promotion after all 👍

 

[Stotty]

If you dont happen to qualify where you want to, then you have great motivation to improve over the next few weeks in the WRS. Its not impossible to get a promotion after all 👍

Absolutely.

A couple of examples... Maz (Synwraith) and Dan (Hyper-Dan) qualified in D2 on the original GT5P qualifier, and both managed to get themseves promoted to D1 gold.

 

[Stu-Pid]

Submitted my times yesterday. In general I was happy with them, but know that I left quite a bit of time out there, especially in Sector 2 where I think I was losing at least a second in the last 30 seconds of the lap. Can't wait to see just how much quicker the Div 1 guys are.

Where I struggled was that I felt I was pretty much maxed out on the first half of both sectors, but due to the amount of times I'd restart a sector after a mistake, I didn't know the last half or third of the lap well enough to find the perfect line. I know that I could have not aborted laps which had mistakes early, and therefore practised the last part of the sectors, but when you've got limited time at your disposal that's not easy to do.

Anyway, now that's out of the way I guess I should finally start playing A-Spec...

 

[Lyvan]

Managed to shave about .850 from my best time in sector 2, I think this will be it for me, since I consider that for WRS I will have no more than 3 hours a week to dedicate, so I should try to keep the level real...

 

[EDK]

Where I struggled was that I felt I was pretty much maxed out on the first half of both sectors, but due to the amount of times I'd restart a sector after a mistake, I didn't know the last half or third of the lap well enough to find the perfect line. I know that I could have not aborted laps which had mistakes early, and therefore practised the last part of the sectors, but when you've got limited time at your disposal that's not easy to do.

After years of running TT's, this is a habit that I have learned to stay out of, unless I know the car and track really well, and I am well into a session. Even if you know the last part of the track, if you've spent 30 minutes without driving it, your chances of being on pace there are not good.

It's really painful with the TT I'm focused on right now, the Cape Ring portion of the GT Academy. I might know that I have no chance of improving my time 30 seconds into a ~3 minute lap, but I still just hammer through the rest of the lap. The repetitions get you in rhythm, build muscle memory, and ultimately are the best thing to do in terms of building consistency.

 

[Apollo33]

Let's say you run what you feel is your best lap at Track X in Car X and your time is a 1:01:555.

If I say, I took that same car, with that same exact set up, and drove a 1:01.499. Wouldn't you think to yourself "Maybe I can do a little better..." Especially if you knew that the 1:01.499 represented 1st place?

You don't think you might second guess your 'best' and try again?

If you say no, I call BS.

No . Because 98% of us don't have a shot at first place, and we already know that there are people going (sometimes quite a bit) faster than us. In your example I would think, "yeah I could probably get that time if I got lucky and hit every corner right, but knowing my horrible consistency it's not worth my time."

I will admit that a video could be helpful to people who are slow because they don't realize the fastest line through certain corners. But a time, unless it's something like 5+ seconds faster, doesn't really inspire me to keep trying.

 

[GTP_Noctis_Equi]

Mandatory post to send a pm. Registration was easy and I'm looking forward to working my way up.

 

[Jump_Ace]

The repetitions get you in rhythm, build muscle memory, and ultimately are the best thing to do in terms of building consistency.

For all you new guys that will be joining us weekly, this advice is probably the best you will ever hear. Once you do this, and do it as often as you can, you will surprise yourself 👍

Jerome

 

[Vince_Fiero]

Based on Dan's previous form on GT games I wouldn't worry about it... as Anghammarad says, the vast majority of people won't be able to comprehend how you can go that fast, never mind be able to do it themselves.

I've chased Dan's ghosts numerous times in TT's over the years, and even with a ghost to chase I've always struggled to keep him in sight

Best to just get your head down and concentrate on your own lap 👍

I agree that I can not follow Stotty, so a video of Dan is completely not a motivation, I can never follow it.

Try to do this, GT5- RedBull X1- Nurburgring: 3'19.807 (No Skid Recovery) :


But I disagree you can not understand, in an analysis I can see what the limits are in each turn and I can see the ideal line. I can just not give the right steering, braking or acceleration inputs to also make the car do it.
Generally in WRS the replays of Dan confirm my analysis, how bad I drive, but also how close he can keep to the theoretical limit.