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- StigsTC
I mean... I did wake up at 6am to race at 7am...
This week is a bit nicer though. Unfortunately so many really quick guys are showing up so 5th place here I come!
GTP_WRS-Online : Special XVI - #GT300 Triple Mix Championship - Finale - 10 DEC: 2.4 hour endurance
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This week is a bit nicer though. Unfortunately so many really quick guys are showing up so 5th place here I come!
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- GTP_Roamer2629
Call me old fashioned, but I treat the PS like booze, not before sundown if possible 
Stigs, if you feel like that what's left for me
Stigs, if you feel like that what's left for me
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- GTP_Dutchy
Here I sit thinking that the dude just wants to abideCall me old fashioned, but I treat the PS like booze, not before sundown if possible
Stigs, if you feel like that what's left for me
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- GTP_Patrick1
Room assignments coming soon, but there is and A and B room up.
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- GTP_Dutchy
room B is up again.
Room B starting 30min late.
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- Deux_Milles
Hi,
going to read the rules. Have fun,
D.
going to read the rules. Have fun,
D.
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- ajh_1990
DC just when the results screen was going to switch back to the lobby.
Tidgney
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Great racing everyone! As I mentioned in the lobby, how I'm meant to turn that 1 hour race into extended highlights is beyond me so it may turn into a full live 1 hour race as it literally was packed with action from start to finish! Seriously good stuff though 
!
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My race was run when I t-boned DeuxMilles who had spun on turn 1 but had a good battle with @Nail-27 for a while until I made another of my too often made mistakes. I definitely need more race practice to improve consistency but it was an enjoyable race.
Thanks guys and well done to the podium finishers.
Thanks guys and well done to the podium finishers.
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- Deux_Milles
Hi,
saved the replay, but can't see it i the gallery (?)
Result-Screen in the lobby shows only Qualifying-Results, Race-Result-Page was empty.
Used day :-/
D.
saved the replay, but can't see it i the gallery (?)
Result-Screen in the lobby shows only Qualifying-Results, Race-Result-Page was empty.
Used day :-/
D.
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- danbojte
That's shame.
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- RacingOtaku86
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- GTP_ealirendur
I appreciated your quick thinking on the ghosting, and thought it very odd when you pitted. I had a really pretty bad first race that day, but improved after that.
In other, related news, I was extremely glad I didn't quit after a lap 1 off today (going to last from 2nd).
In other, related news, I was extremely glad I didn't quit after a lap 1 off today (going to last from 2nd).
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- Deux_Milles
Hi,
well, don't know if this answers your question, but I retired the race before the end of the first lap. I practiced the whole week, roundabout 300 laps to learn car and track. I reached my goal to be able to set repetitious acceptable laptimes without making mistakes.
In turn one I was spined out. In the next corners of lap one I spined two or three more times by own mistakes cause I was so upset. After the third one and gaining last place I retired to the pits.
Maybe I return to the timetrials until I reach Division one before I come back to online-events....
I understand the rules that it is ok to retire to the pits, just don't leave the room while the race is still on.
keep racing,
D.
well, don't know if this answers your question, but I retired the race before the end of the first lap. I practiced the whole week, roundabout 300 laps to learn car and track. I reached my goal to be able to set repetitious acceptable laptimes without making mistakes.
In turn one I was spined out. In the next corners of lap one I spined two or three more times by own mistakes cause I was so upset. After the third one and gaining last place I retired to the pits.
Maybe I return to the timetrials until I reach Division one before I come back to online-events....
I understand the rules that it is ok to retire to the pits, just don't leave the room while the race is still on.
keep racing,
D.
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@RacingOtaku86 @DeuxMilles
I'd see it this way - a Race is an entire show with all its actors. I'd say it would be nice to everyone play his role. For his colleagues, for the spectators, for himself.
Aside of this - You never know what could happen in a race. And usually, things are happening.
I'd see it this way - a Race is an entire show with all its actors. I'd say it would be nice to everyone play his role. For his colleagues, for the spectators, for himself.
Aside of this - You never know what could happen in a race. And usually, things are happening.
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- GTP_Dutchy
Hey Erik and Deux,
First of all this message is just to give you an different perspective. take from it what you need.
Retiring vs being an backmarker
IMHO you didn't learn anything by just sitting in the pits. In general I had my fair share of bad races /starts /first laps you name it. The trick is to learn from them, try and keep your head cool and make sure you settle down in the race and prevent one mistake from provoking another one (this takes practice) and try to make up for it in the race. In fact look at it this way. say you've qualified around 5th after a few corners you're in the top 3 then disaster hits and you drop back to dead last. The way I see it at the end of the lap I can go into the pits and say that my race has failed or I can go on an actually learn something. the reason you started in 5th is that you were quicker than a lot of guys on track. Why rob yourself of the experience you gain going through the pack. You'll learn much about car control, race craft, different lines, trying to out think an opponent and since you should be a bit quicker you already have a natural advantage. Maybe I make a mistake in there somewhere again which doesn't cost me any extra since the race was already "ruined". And then I make another one, and another one, and another one. Chances are that by keep running and catching a few of the other guys and profiting from others mistakes you can still achieve a pretty good result. And most importantly a very satisfied feeling. By the end of the race I've had so much action, fun and experience gained which I all take to track the next time. And that's when you start crafting a thing I call sense for lack of better word. It means that the next time you're better aware of what can or can't be done and you already anticipate more on the moves of other drivers. know where the space on track will be or where the 3 guys battling infront of you are going.
So if you've stayed in the pits you didn't gain any of the things I just named. So the next race starts and that's where you'll learn another hard lesson. because you don't know that well how others are gonna react. you don't know that much of taking different driving lines. you don't know as much about car control. and the chance it relatively higher you'll end up in the pits again. so in short history repeats.
In my book there are only 2 good reasons to retire, that's when you're not in control of the car and therefore are a hazard to others. Or you just got so frustrated that you're now a ticking testosterone bomb threatening to divebomb everyone, other than that. Just go get the experience you need.
Mindset
Instead of focussing on end result. Judge your races by what you learned. What things went well, what things went wrong. what lessons can be learned. It's easy for us to want that topspot on the podium and that's why we invest a lot of time in practice. but sometimes if you qually 5th and become 6th that doesn't have to mean you had a bad race. Try to achieve whats in your abbillity instead of setting your goals higher than your current skill level. imho you're then setting yourself up for failure and will probably make casualties along the way.
In general try to keep your attitude as relaxed as possible. This isnt F1. This should be fun, remember to have fun. Enjoy that good battle with someone!
Try not to loose the race in the first lap instead of trying to win it in the first lap I think @GTP_Nail can give you guys an masterclass in this. I rarely see him making a big mistake in the firstlap(s) because he knows if he'll stay out of trouble he'll be collecting the positions from everyone who beached themselfs if you want to know how to finish before faster guys go and talk to him!
TT's
TT's are fun but they will learn you the qually part only. So if you wait to become D1 before starting racing you'll be very quick in qually. but then... the race... lights go out... first corner.... boom / spin /grinding metal. The one thing I've learned is you can only gain race craft by actually racing there's no substitute no shortcuts just racing. Don't be afraid to race, just be there make mistakes for an hour and come back better next time, repeat.
Closing thoughts
Of course i get the frustration. but it think expectations and reality have been a bit far a part on your sides. I think with an different approach towards the races and trying to set achievements as goals instead of results there's so much more fun to be had and so much more you can learn (quicker) because your mindset is more open to learning and becoming faster instead of frustrated why you aren't the fastest.
Good luck practicing see you both in spa!
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