GTPlanet H2H Drift Tournament #1 Congrats to SAi-66, final vid's added

[GODfreyGT5]

Very true, the rounds need to go on first.

With some info on them etc.

Again next track?
Some more runs?
Maybe 3 groups of different battles together in lobby, watching eachother, waiting turns (speeding things up and make it interesting)

Just some thoughts.

Likey Likey

 

[SKR-Kaizer]

I'm with TwinturboCH, because this is a actual battle and not practice, mistake is not accepted. One more thing, one driver lose it doesn't mean the other driver won't, if we force the other driver to slow down and wait, actually, we're giving a chance for him to safe his possible mistake. In my opinion, he must keep going and show that he can keep the drift and finish the lap, or else it's not fair for both driver.

 

[EXALT1K]

Name: Paulo
PSN: GTP_Paul
Country: Portugal
Team: D-Trick Drift Team

 

[reddawn_77]

Name: D
PSN: reddawn_77
Country: USA
Team: Nemesis

 

[speedthrill]

True, but i was talking about minor incidents wich invole for example in last car overdrifting but holding it = slowing down =/= 0 on 10.
You see it happening in my first battle with Wilson, he almost lost it but keeps on drifting, i slow down by drifting the next 2 turns slower.

If there's a spinout, no waiting, never said you'd need too either.

 

[TwinturboCH]

True, but i was talking about minor incidents wich invole for example in last car overdrifting but holding it = slowing down =/= 0 on 10.
You see it happening in my first battle with Wilson, he almost lost it but keeps on drifting, i slow down by drifting the next 2 turns slower.

If there's a spinout, no wait, never said you'd need too either.

But that's not what we are talking about, we're talking about if someone has a full on spin or crash and the other driver having to wait. The other driver should carry on and show he can finish the lap, it's the only fair way.

 

[GODfreyGT5]

If one car is left behind, the judge cannot see both cars which makes judging... um... impossible...

 

[speedthrill]

But that's not what we are talking about, we're talking about if someone has a full on spin or crash and the other driver having to wait. The other driver should carry on and show he can finish the lap, it's the only fair way.

Yep like i said;

If there's a spinout, no waiting, never said you'd need too either.

Indeed Chris, that's why both should try to keep momentum close to each other.

 

[ps3dan101]

Put my name down for round 2

 

[GODfreyGT5]

I'll continue for round two, just make sure that judges meet their times!

 

[GODfreyGT5]

If the follower span, then the leader spins, the score would go 5-5, if the follower then spins again (while out of shot), the leader would have to go through another round even though they would have won.

Ahha, acn dominating the applicants list

 

[nk4e]

If the follower span, then the leader spins, the score would go 5-5, if the follower then spins again (while out of shot), the leader would have to go through another round even though they would have won.

Ahha, acn dominating the applicants list

How could you tell if the follow spins out? If both participants spin, I say do the run again.

 

[GODfreyGT5]

How could you tell if the follow spins out? If both participants spin, I say do the run again.

As a judge you would be able to see the follower at the start of the tandem (through the spectator cam).

As a driver you would either hear the judge say, see the guy fall back on the map, hear the other driver screaming, hear his tyres squeeling more than they should be for that part of the corner or possibly all of the above.

 

[nk4e]

Ah, too bad I didn't have the game. I will be telling both participants to run it back.

 

[Hayden]

Very true, the rounds need to go on first.

With some info on them etc.

Again next track?
Some more runs?
Maybe 3 groups of different battles together in lobby, watching eachother, waiting turns (speeding things up and make it interesting)

Just some thoughts.

For the Quarter finals, Semi finals & grand final of tournament #1, the rules and regulations stay the same. This is how it's done in every single competition in the world (as far as i know)

Whoa wait, you do mean you're taking names for the next tournament? not just round #2. I think you should concentrate on getting this tounament done first.

And besides, this thread will start to get clogged.

When will the #2 begin? I might not be free and I'm not sure if I want to go through the trouble of judging again...

Thread clogging doesn't worry me too much. This tournament shouldn't be too hard to organise now, (only have to deal with half the people.) I fully understand why you wouldn't want anything to do with the tournament going forward. (especially when you have to fill in for the organiser)

Hmmm, i thought the nature was tandeming, i know i waited for the back drifter.
Infact my brakes are tuned so i can brake and slow the drift down without stopping drifting. ideal for trying to tuck in closely in a tandem when yr behind and the first one makes a mistake or loses speed, brake some more and stay next to him.

this is not a race eh.

^This guy has it right^

I'm with TwinturboCH, because this is a actual battle and not practice, mistake is not accepted. One more thing, one driver lose it doesn't mean the other driver won't, if we force the other driver to slow down and wait, actually, we're giving a chance for him to safe his possible mistake. In my opinion, he must keep going and show that he can keep the drift and finish the lap, or else it's not fair for both driver.

^By that logic the video of nearly every battle so far would only show 1 car. We aren't at the level yet where we can all finish a lap without crashing out^

Yeah he means next tournament.. i think it's other people just getting there words confused and saying round2..

^^^Yep^^^

Never said it was a race, but the point is, if someone goes off the track or spins, they instantly lose 10-0, so waiting for the other driver is pointless. If you want to do it, that's fine, but it shouldn't be an enforced rule. I, as a judge, always require drivers to complete the course, otherwise it makes judging very difficult. If one driver crashes or spins, the other driver should still show that he can continue through the course without breaking drift.

On the topic of people asking about what new track to use, are you not sticking to one track for the entire round up until the winner is decided, then move onto a new track for the next new competition? Drift comps don't switch track halfway through, you run until you have a winner, then you go to the next round at a different venue. Or have I mis-read it?

Yes i am sticking to one track for the entire tournament

Sorry for the long post but this thread has got a little bit chaotic

Heres a tip for remember the round/tournament thing...
Call "rounds" by their names. It goes Round #1, Quarter Finals, Semi Finals, Grand Finals/Bronze battle
Call "tournaments" by thier number. Tournament #1, Tournament #2 etc.

 

[nk4e]

There isn't anything considered as a " Bronze Battle". 3rd place usually comes from the Losers bracket if it is a double elimination type. To my knowledege.

 

[jimy281090]

I say, if a car spins out and has all wheels off the track or even has a total spin out but remains on track its still deemed as a loss. ONLY if the other car continues with a full lap without a spin then it goes 10-0, if you have a complete spin why should it make judging hard? he lost control and failed to complete a corner by losing total control of the car therefor has lost the battle! fair enough if he slows the car dramatically and is at crawling pace but not has spun then you should wait but then how can you recover from that if the other guy completes the lap?

To round that off, a spin is total failure of drift therefor a failed lap and cannot judge

 

[HKSD1]

i'm still confused.......so we gotta wait if out opponent spun or went off track??

in my battle.....i waited cause i wasn't sure......but hopefully i dont have to wait again.....

as to what mrdino was saying about not everyone can drift a full course without mistake....

i have to agree with that not EVERYONE can do it.....but that also separates the men from the boys......the men shouldn't be obligated to show mercy to the boys just cause they are boys =P

edit: i believe i'm the only one who scored a 20-0 so far.......and it really bugs me that i have to stop everytime my opponent goes off or drifts way off line......in my battle i stopped for 5seconds for him to drive infront of me again......but only for him to go off track again on the next turn.......then i lost my patience in stopping again.

 

[jimy281090]

i have to agree with that not EVERYONE can do it.....but that also separates the men from the boys......the men shouldn't be obligated to show mercy to the boys just cause they are boys =P

I totally agree.

 

[Hayden]

You are right, however i think it's only fair for someone to get a second chance. They may not deserve a third or fourth chance but waiting once is no big deal IMHO.

 

[pinoyboiii408]

count me in for week 2 =)

Real Name:Jon
PSN Name: Pinoy_boii_408
Country:us
Teamurple Blur

 

[Hayden]

^^^Tournament two. Please remember that. Saying week 2 gets people A little bit confused

 

[pinoyboiii408]

^^^Tournament two. Please remember that. Saying week 2 gets people A little bit confused

ok then ill be on tournament two ^^ if u guys still have room

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

DrifTa-AJV psn
Southern-Sliderz
Eastern Australian time

I'm up for it mr dinosaw if you can slot me in

 

[Tuzmyfuz80]

I would be willing to give it another go. I have improved already, and ready for another shot

 

[GODfreyGT5]

Rules are rules, I fully understand why you guys wouldn't want to, but it's almost pointless for the judge to be there if only one driver can be judged after a mistake.

It's a battle of drifting and tandems, not how far you can leave the other car behind.

 

[KPSeigo]

Rules are rules, I fully understand why you guys wouldn't want to, but it's almost pointless for the judge to be there if only one driver can be judged after a mistake.

It's a battle of drifting and tandems, not how far you can leave the other car behind.

That is the most single minded thing i have heard lol, every professional competition in the world goes by those means, if you get left behind or overtaken then tough luck, it's not a race and it's not wait for me at the next turn i messed up.

It's dog eat dog.

If you have a problem with that you have a problem with 99.9999% of any drift competition that has ever existed in the real world.


Not to mention it looks like a complete joke waiting for the driver thats behind you to catch up and try to regain points, looks tacky as hell.


Has anyone involved in the organization of this competition actually ever watched a professional competition before? I'm beginning to wonder..

Not being mean, but come on now this is common sense stuff.
jesus..

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

i wouldnt be waiting its just not drifting

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

sorry just agree with seigo and the others this is suppose to be a tournament if you spin bad luck try to make it up in the next round by outdrifting. the best drifters get caught on this rule all the time thats what makes drifting an exciting sport. not just the same winners over and over again truth is the more consistent drivers win points they win FD or D1 by being consistent not by winning every comp even pros have bad days they dont complain about it though.

 

[Hayden]

That is the most single minded thing i have heard lol, every professional competition in the world goes by those means, if you get left behind or overtaken then tough luck, it's not a race and it's not wait for me at the next turn i messed up.

It's dog eat dog.

If you have a problem with that you have a problem with 99.9999% of any drift competition that has ever existed in the real world.


Not to mention it looks like a complete joke waiting for the driver thats behind you to catch up and try to regain points, looks tacky as hell.


Has anyone involved in the organization of this competition actually ever watched a professional competition before? I'm beginning to wonder..

Not being mean, but come on now this is common sense stuff.
jesus..

sorry just agree with seigo and the others this is suppose to be a tournament if you spin bad luck try to make it up in the next round by outdrifting. the best drifters get caught on this rule all the time thats what makes drifting an exciting sport. not just the same winners over and over again truth is the more consistent drivers win points they win FD or D1 by being consistent not by winning every comp even pros have bad days they dont complain about it though.

I am sick of arguing about it. iv'e said it before & will undoubtfully say it again. In Formula D & D1 there is a camera on each car all the way around. Judges can compare the too very easily. Here we don't have that luxury. A judge can watch one drifter at a time & if he wants to watch the other he misses out on nearly 5 seconds of drifting. Now if PD give us some kind of split screen view your ideals would be better.

We are all here to not only have fun and compete on a world stage but to also learn. No one here is perfect (i know that you didn't say you were) and we are all improving day on day.

How would you feel if you, for example were knocked out of the grand final because you span on the first corner, setting the score at 10 -0. Following that corner the judges can't see you at all and watch as your challenger has 3 wheels off on every corner. You can say you drifted well all you want, but as far as judges are concerned, you have no proof. I have already had to call a "one more time" as one car simply left behind the other. I couldn't tell if he was off in the bushes or sliding like a king. So plllleeeeaaasssee stop saying the same things.