GTPlanet H2H Drift Tournament #1 Congrats to SAi-66, final vid's added

[KPSeigo]

lol, i'm not trying to be repetitive, i mean, when you spin, and get left.. say HE messes up, well common sense thats 1 more time. But generally if 1 spins and other continues then that's just 10-0, the losing driver has to at least drive the rest of the course to finish.

we're trying to help you understand how to do this, i know doing it alone can get confusing at times, but listen to people that may know this things well.

 

[Hayden]

I very much appreciate your input but on this matter i am holding firm untill the end of tournament #1

 

[TwinturboCH]

There isn't anything considered as a " Bronze Battle". 3rd place usually comes from the Losers bracket if it is a double elimination type. To my knowledege.

Nope, 90% of comps now run a 3rd/4th place battle. Formula D, JDM AllStars, PFD, EDC, BDC, IDS to name but a few.

i have to agree with that not EVERYONE can do it.....but that also separates the men from the boys......the men shouldn't be obligated to show mercy to the boys just cause they are boys =P

edit: i believe i'm the only one who scored a 20-0 so far.......and it really bugs me that i have to stop everytime my opponent goes off or drifts way off line......in my battle i stopped for 5seconds for him to drive infront of me again......but only for him to go off track again on the next turn.......then i lost my patience in stopping again.

Exactly Waiting ruins your rythmn. The fact is, if one driver spins, the judge should then be watching the other driver anyway, because the guy who has spun cannot gain anything back unless the other driver spins, so the point Dino made about only being able to see one car if someone spins is null and void.

You are right, however i think it's only fair for someone to get a second chance. They may not deserve a third or fourth chance but waiting once is no big deal IMHO.

Why should they get one more chance? The nature of competition is, you fail, you're out. In the World Cup, in a penalty shot out, one team misses their first shot, they don't turn round and say 'ignore that one, give them one more chance' LOL

Rules are rules, I fully understand why you guys wouldn't want to, but it's almost pointless for the judge to be there if only one driver can be judged after a mistake.

It's a battle of drifting and tandems, not how far you can leave the other car behind.

How is the judge being there pointless? Actually, battles ARE a case of 'how far can you leave the other car behind' regardless of whether one of them spins or not. If you want to 'tandem' then go practice, if you want to 'battle' then it becomes about leaving the other car in your dust. The fact is, competitions are 'battles'.

i wouldnt be waiting its just not drifting

Exactly, I won't be waiting, I never even look in the rear view mirror as what I the other driver is doing is not my problem, so chances are, in GT5, I'd never even realised they'd spun. If that gets me DQ'd, then so be it.

 

[TwinturboCH]

How would you feel if you, for example were knocked out of the grand final because you span on the first corner, setting the score at 10 -0.

Been there, done that, spun in the first run of mine against Yauyuki Kazama at Silverstone D1GP in 2006, tough luck, I crcked under pressure and lost, that's what comps are.

Following that corner the judges can't see you at all and watch as your challenger has 3 wheels off on every corner.

If he has three wheels off the track, it's classed the same as a spin, so the score would be 5-5, you don't need to see the car that already spun.

You can say you drifted well all you want, but as far as judges are concerned, you have no proof.

If the other guy had three wheels off the track, it doesn't matter, it;s a 5-5. When I judge, if both drivers are shoddy, it's a 5-5, end of.

I have already had to call a "one more time" as one car simply left behind the other. I couldn't tell if he was off in the bushes or sliding like a king. So plllleeeeaaasssee stop saying the same things.

What? You called one more time because the leader left the follower behind? Why? If the lead driver drifted well and pulled a gap, he wins the run, it doesn't matter if the other guy is pulling off a clean run, if he's slow, he loses, that's life.

I very much appreciate your input but on this matter i am holding firm untill the end of tournament #1

That's fine, no-one would expect you to change the rules mid-comp. Just consider what we are saying for Tournament 2 please.

 

[Hayden]

I am definiteley taking these ideas in for tournament #2. Fact is tournament #2 is shaping up to be an epic. Counting the drivers from tournament #1 there is 30 people signed up. This means another round of competition. As such the rules may need to be harshened up a step. That's why this idea is definitely under consideration for tournament #2.

(sorry for repeated use of the word "tournament)

 

[KPSeigo]

I am definiteley taking these ideas in for tournament two. Fact is tournament two is shaping up to be an epic. Couinting the drivers from tournament #1 there is 30 people sined up. This means another round of competition. As such the rules may need to be harshened up a step. That's why this idea is definitely under consideration for tournament #2.

Yeah man, and if anything just watch and pay attention to a crap load of professional drifting competitions on youtube and how the judges handle things, you might even come up with some nice system of your own based off of a real competition

 

[GODfreyGT5]

It seems the majority is against me.

If I judge again then i'll happily use your rules, just wanted to make a point and get an answer.

End of argument?

I still need to know when my next battle will be, as I will not be available this weekend till late Sunday.

 

[Hayden]

Can you go Friday night GMT?

 

[HKSD1]

Been there, done that, spun in the first run of mine against Yauyuki Kazama at Silverstone D1GP in 2006, tough luck, I crcked under pressure and lost, that's what comps are.



If he has three wheels off the track, it's classed the same as a spin, so the score would be 5-5, you don't need to see the car that already spun.



If the other guy had three wheels off the track, it doesn't matter, it;s a 5-5. When I judge, if both drivers are shoddy, it's a 5-5, end of.



What? You called one more time because the leader left the follower behind? Why? If the lead driver drifted well and pulled a gap, he wins the run, it doesn't matter if the other guy is pulling off a clean run, if he's slow, he loses, that's life.


That's fine, no-one would expect you to change the rules mid-comp. Just consider what we are saying for Tournament 2 please.

couldn't have said it better myself:tup:👍👍👍

 

[speedthrill]

That is the most single minded thing i have heard lol, every professional competition in the world goes by those means, if you get left behind or overtaken then tough luck, it's not a race and it's not wait for me at the next turn i messed up.

It's dog eat dog.

If you have a problem with that you have a problem with 99.9999% of any drift competition that has ever existed in the real world.


Not to mention it looks like a complete joke waiting for the driver thats behind you to catch up and try to regain points, looks tacky as hell.


Has anyone involved in the organization of this competition actually ever watched a professional competition before? I'm beginning to wonder..

Not being mean, but come on now this is common sense stuff.
jesus..

Omg the bat jumps out of his cave...
Have you ever drifted with anyone speaking against you?
I suggest you start immediately, because you don't seem to get what we mean with waiting...

Waiting in terms of drifting: Drifting can be fast AND slow if you want...
Tandemdrifting is a way of making it more dangerous risky. But it's also a way to get kicks together. Therefore you'll want the need to constantly feel and know where the other is, and therefore try to feel where he is going to. If you feel you've entered a corner way to fast compared to him, you brake a bit while drifting. That makes sure the other one is catching you yet again before or in the next corner without both interupting the drift... Get it?

yes i know, you constantly talk about spin outs...

I talk about tandeming... Trying to find out the line of the opponent, trying to stick on one side of that line, trying to get uberclose and not hitting him... Trying to get perfection...
http://vimeo.com/channels/56590
And yes those are battles, wich are not who's first at the finnish line...

Again if he spins out fully, no need to wait for him. But minor slow downs/ speed ups should be modified by both. That's what happens in real life btw...

 

[KPSeigo]

Omg the bat jumps out of his cave...
Have you ever drifted with anyone speaking against you?
I suggest you start immediately, because you don't seem to get what we mean with waiting...

Waiting in terms of drifting: Drifting can be fast AND slow if you want...
Tandemdrifting is a way of making it more dangerous risky. But it's also a way to get kicks together. Therefore you'll want the need to constantly feel and know where the other is, and therefore try to feel where he is going to. If you feel you've entered a corner way to fast compared to him, you brake a bit while drifting. That makes sure the other one is catching you yet again before or in the next corner without both interupting the drift... Get it?

yes i know, you constantly talk about spin outs...

I talk about tandeming... Trying to find out the line of the opponent, trying to stick on one side of that line, trying to get uberclose and not hitting him... Trying to get perfection...

Again if he spins out fully, no need to wait for him. But minor slow downs/ speed ups should be modified by both. That's what happens in real life btw...

What are you even talking about lol. Catch up with the thread brah

 

[speedthrill]

I did i did.

I just reacted after that on your thoughts.

 

[TwinturboCH]

But minor slow downs/ speed ups should be modified by both. That's what happens in real life btw...

Errrrr... no it isn't. I guarantee you that in ANY competition, the lead driver is doing his best to pull away from the guy behind and the guy behind is simply doing his best to stick himself to the door of the car in front. It's nothing to do with the lead driver waiting, ever.

 

[GODfreyGT5]

Can you go Friday night GMT?

Yup

 

[ps3dan101]

I can too

 

[rpr101]

i'm still confused.......so we gotta wait if out opponent spun or went off track??

in my battle.....i waited cause i wasn't sure......but hopefully i dont have to wait again.....

as to what mrdino was saying about not everyone can drift a full course without mistake....

i have to agree with that not EVERYONE can do it.....but that also separates the men from the boys......the men shouldn't be obligated to show mercy to the boys just cause they are boys =P

edit: i believe i'm the only one who scored a 20-0 so far.......and it really bugs me that i have to stop everytime my opponent goes off or drifts way off line......in my battle i stopped for 5seconds for him to drive infront of me again......but only for him to go off track again on the next turn.......then i lost my patience in stopping again.

i understand that you waited once and after that you didnt wait. i sucked that day. like i told you when we where racing its no problem for me and nobody should be complaining about what you did because i think what you did was good. and i wish you good luck in the rest of the tournament.

 

[SKR-Kaizer]

I have a question, when are we gonna do the next round(Best 8)?

 

[HKSD1]

Errrrr... no it isn't. I guarantee you that in ANY competition, the lead driver is doing his best to pull away from the guy behind and the guy behind is simply doing his best to stick himself to the door of the car in front. It's nothing to do with the lead driver waiting, ever.

once again the wise man speaks the truth

ppl need to get real.........learn the differences in tandem and battle

as a lead i definitely will go all out drifting my fastest speed possible and lose the guy behind me

there are also so many different strategies in battle aside from getting more speed......sometimes even drifting at low speed as a lead will bring you advantages...you can hold up your following opponent and force him to break out of his drifts.....

other than that.....drifting a tight line will also force your opponent to stay back abit instead of finding room to your door.

there are so many different strategies in a battle it's not as simple as pulling away....

at the end of the day......i dont see why i have to slow down or break my flow for the leading/following opponent that made a mistake

 

[HKSD1]

What are you even talking about lol. Catch up with the thread brah

he's talking about a random drift day in a server to get the best tandem drifts
not anything related to a battle

 

[nk4e]

If this is going to be a "GTPlanet Tandem H2H Drift Tournament" Shall we discuss everything else in one of the stickies? Though is there a update for this one?

 

[Hayden]

The list is fully up to date. I'm putting up the quarter final battles and times in the next few hours

 

[speedthrill]

Ok, again sorry then for the misunderstandings.
this seems to be what i did not know it was, now i know it.

thanks.

 

[Hayden]

-Wanted

Segment ideas. The show is well on it's way and i want to have it completed the same day as the grand final. I so far have only 1 segment that isn't video of the battles up until now. It is the GTPD1 suprise drift car of the week, in which i examine a car that doesn't look like it would drift, but boy can it. I can't tell you what it is (because then it wouldn't be a suprise ) but i need ideas for 1 or 2 more segments.

 

[KPSeigo]

-Wanted

Segment ideas. The show is well on it's way and i want to have it completed the same day as the grand final. I so far have only 1 segment that isn't video of the battles up until now. It is the GTPD1 suprise drift car of the week, in which i examine a car that doesn't look like it would drift, but boy can it. I can't tell you what it is (because then it wouldn't be a suprise ) but i need ideas for 1 or 2 more segments.

Fuji Speedway - Cote d'Azur

 

[Hayden]

I meant video segments , the tracks are both great though...

 

[KPSeigo]

oh, of highlights you mean? as long as it's coordinated, clean and close driving you shouldn't go wrong.

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

I had an idea for tournament 2 if you get clogged up with drivers like you said you have 30 odd drivers listed now how about running a qualifier round a driver gets 2 laps to prove themselves you score it the same as you would a normal round and the highest scored drifters get a spot in the comp that way you end up with top quality drivers and your not holding 15 battles eliminate the field to a much more manageable group and your gaurenteed to see some top battles Just a thought.

 

[nk4e]

-Wanted

Segment ideas. The show is well on it's way and i want to have it completed the same day as the grand final. I so far have only 1 segment that isn't video of the battles up until now. It is the GTPD1 suprise drift car of the week, in which i examine a car that doesn't look like it would drift, but boy can it. I can't tell you what it is (because then it wouldn't be a suprise ) but i need ideas for 1 or 2 more segments.

FM3 Drift car! Possible decals right there ^^.

 

[DrifTa-AJV]

-Wanted

Segment ideas. The show is well on it's way and i want to have it completed the same day as the grand final. I so far have only 1 segment that isn't video of the battles up until now. It is the GTPD1 suprise drift car of the week, in which i examine a car that doesn't look like it would drift, but boy can it. I can't tell you what it is (because then it wouldn't be a suprise ) but i need ideas for 1 or 2 more segments.

Maybe run a GTP team segment introduce a team each video
introduce members and ask them to sit in on a drift prac session or even rally up to teams to do a friendly battle and run a team battle segment.

Another idea is maybe a track segment show the best corners in tracks show people how to approach and drift them??????👍👍

 

[Hayden]

I had an idea for tournament 2 if you get clogged up with drivers like you said you have 30 odd drivers listed now how about running a qualifier round a driver gets 2 laps to prove themselves you score it the same as you would a normal round and the highest scored drifters get a spot in the comp that way you end up with top quality drivers and your not holding 15 battles eliminate the field to a much more manageable group and your gaurenteed to see some top battles Just a thought.

This sounds like a really cool way to do it. It would save a lot of arguments too. I could even have a public poll with each video, to save arguments. I think their are only two real options. 32 bracket elimination style & your style with a top 16 progressing.

FM3 Drift car! Possible decals right there ^^.

Thanks! Sounds like a brilliant idea. Not bad for a couple fonts of word

Maybe run a GTP team segment introduce a team each video
introduce members and ask them to sit in on a drift prac session or even rally up to teams to do a friendly battle and run a team battle segment.

Another idea is maybe a track segment show the best corners in tracks show people how to approach and drift them??????👍👍

I like both these ideas. The team idea in particular. Sitting in on a practice session and getting a bit of info, before watching them battle another team.
Or getting video of a team as a prologue to a member battling someone... Both sound great

!The track idea seems a lot easier to organise. So i will do that one first and if there is time, do the other too.