Alright Collin
haven't seen you in a while.
GT has too high expectations, mainly because people all have difference prefferences but expect Gran Turismo to cover all of them. Comparing GT to forza is about as fair as the comparisons get, but since they are on differnt consoles its pretty pointless.
Stop right there. Not true at all. GTR and GTR2 beats gran turismo in many area. Gran Turismo beats GTR in many areas. Both of my statements are true. Since you appear to be convinced on what areas of GTR beats there is no point in me reminding you. However I shall bring a few areas in which Gran Turismo beats GTR. More cars. Photomode. Better graphics. Greater range of cars, from kei-cars to fully blown Le Mans cars. Better graphics. More diverse range of tornaments, More modification options, Licence tests. Rallying. You get the picture.
Now I am not saying these features are the best, but lets be honest they are area in which Gran Turismo beats GTR. YOu probably don't care about these areas, I myself don't car about photomode,
but many people do. Which leads me to my next point. GTR is a focused simulator much like Live for Speed. The physics in these game are exceptional, much better than gran Turismo, but why would this surprise you?
Gran Turismo is a big seller, it is a console sim, but simulators on console games tend to be mainstream rather than hardcore simulators. Gran Turismo is a game that everyone can play, its easy to drive, its fun to play and it apeals to loads of peoples tastes. Some people like it because its more realistic than other
console games. Some like it because they are car enthusiast who enjoy driving loads of cars. Some people like it because it has some of the best game graphics there are around.
Now lest look at who GTR appeals to. GTR primarily is a hardcore PC sim rather than a mainstream console sim. For this reason GTR focuses on absolute realism, GTR isn't meant to appeal to people who like things like photomode, GTR is meant to appeal to people who like extremely realistic physics even if it is too hard for the average gamer. I love GTR, I enjoy the high difficulty. I love the race weekends, practice session, qualifying and the races themselves even have parade laps. Ultimately GTR is far more realistic than Gran Turismo, but that doesn't make it a better game, which game is better resides in the preffereence of the user. As a general rule, I would say GTR is more realistic and fun in a challenging way. Gran Turismo has a better range of choice and fun in a casual way.
I have both games and play them for different reasons. I like both games for different reasons, I don't want Gran Turismo to become a hardcore sim, thats why I am not too bothered about the physics of Gran turismo. I don't want GTR to become a fun console sim, thats why I am not bothered that there are only a few cars in GTR.
This is because GTR is a hardcore sim and that is why it trounces Gran Turismo in these areas, regardless of budget. Polyphoney Digital spend there money and time in other areas. If you want to see GTR realism in Gran Turismo I suggest you give up on Gran Turismo altogether because it is not gonig to happen.
The reason you can do this is because of the internet. This should now be possible to some extent in GT5 because GT5 will have internet access.
Your right. Tracks in GT4 felt dead without spectators. GT5 promises to have more cars on track and if the demo is anything to go by spectators. I do expect GT5 to be more lively than GT4, if it doesn't I will be dissapointed.
no problem, I hope you take on board my main point; Gran Turismo will not be like GTR, I would suggest getting both games. But if absolute realism is your onyl goal in a racing game then stick to GTR.