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[Niss]

I tested the new new tire model a bit. Online Private Lobby, Nurburgring GP/F. Calsonic stock power (518hp/610PP), 8 laps. To make it easy for me, I used a RH tire setup for both "races". Also to make it comparable, I didn't push hard in any of the races, but just tried to drive smooth but effective.

RS tires, 1 stop: 15min 41 sec
RH tires, 0 stop; 15min 48 sec

RS tires: Best lap time 1'53.3, worst lap 1'53.9 (lap 8)
RH tires: Best lap time 1'56.4, worst lap 1'59.4 (lap 8)

The RS tires had a little more the 50% left on them at the end of each stint, but were still delivering almost as good lap times as fresh. There was probably at least another two laps in them without laptimes going too high.

The RH tires had a little less than 50% left in them and lap times was increasing with each lap. If regulation would have stated RH only, it was probably time for a pitstop fairly soon.

At the last lap, the RS tires was 5.5 seconds faster. At 8 laps, the RS tires was 7 sec faster even if it had to do a pit stop. If the race would have been 2 laps longer, the RS tires would "win" with about an aditional 10-12 seconds, making them nrearly 20 seconds faster for the race. If the race would have been 6 laps, the RS tires could easily make it without a stop. If long races, RS tires will be faster at any lap combination.

I then modified the setup to more suit RS tires. Best lap was a 1'52.2, tires lasting 7 laps, last lap being in the 1'56, same as fresh RH tires. RS tires heat up slower than before, doesn't get completetely white, and get to its warmest when worn down to around 75% left. I previously done 1'49.8 in a 610PP GTR (no tuning restrictions however), so best laptimes are slower than before, at least what i got in this short test.

So unfortunately it doesn't work as we hoped. That RS or RH would post similar race time, RH being slower but making it up in fewer stops. Bummer.

Good Test-Run mate, i think from what i've read it's useless too let the tyres be unrestricted 5.5 sec slower lol that's a lot!, just stick too the Racing Hard tyres Masi if you want

 

[CSLACR]

Well I'm pretty sure "open" means RS, cause it's Gran Turismo.
I'm in a bad mood towards GT today, sorry.

 

[Otsdarva]

That's a shame about the tires, would have really been fun to mix it up and see where drivers savoring RH would finish amongst those burning through RS.

Ugh, I need to start burning some practice laps... the first pre-season race was my first time back behind the wheel since the season ended.

 

[paulmac2k9]

Theres one major thing to factor in we have tested these cars to get close on Race Hards (More Aderrrm, Masi Csl ect ect). So some could make use of the higher grip better than others but the nail in the coffin is the fact that the extra pace from RS and RM doesnt work out equal due to wear differences and pit stop time making it useless sadly.

 

[Sail IC]

The race pace between RS vs. RH is so big even at a multiple pitstop distance, that its extremely unlikely that any car combo would make the tires equal over distance.

In general terms, I think the lower you go down the performance scale the lesser will be the advantage of the RS tires. Around the 600PP mark for GT500, the RS tires will be the best tires over distance by a huge margin. The problem is that if you start to go lower down the perfomance scale from here, driving with RS tires will be incredibly boring as you will have way too much grip. It will be very arcade like.

By all means, more people should test this. I hope I'm wrong, but I very much doubt it.

PD had a great idea with the tire wear update, but unfortunately the missed the mark in the execution.

 

[NEPALII]

I say we just do what they do in the real Super GT. Qualifying on Softs(they only last 4, 5 laps) so you push the car to the limits. Then the race we just start on Hards and then we are allowed to change to any tires we want on a pit stop. You can make it mandatory or not, up to you.

 

[Osr20_L]

that sounds good (qualifying on soft) but not for the race, jut start on RH and finish on RH!!
correct me if i'm wrong but on real life the hard compound tyres last way longer than the soft.. but here in GT5 the RH doesn't have any advantage over the RS, so, what is the point on allowing to change to any tyres we want after starting on RH?? foolish for those who stay on RH...

 

[CSLACR]

that sounds good (qualifying on soft) but not for the race, jut start on RH and finish on RH!!
correct me if i'm wrong but on real life the hard compound tyres last way longer than the soft.. but here in GT5 the RH doesn't have any advantage over the RS, so, what is the point on allowing to change to any tyres we want after starting on RH?? foolish for those who stay on RH...

RH now last much longer then RS with 2.02 update.
Unfortunately it's still heavily biased towards RS, and whether or not that's realistic, it still means RS would be what everyone always ran.

 

[madcapr]

Ugh, I need to start burning some practice laps... the first pre-season race was my first time back behind the wheel since the season ended.

Pre-season race? Are there pre-season races going on? I don't see any info on the OP on these.

 

[Masi_23]

That's too bad. Although it would be nice to test it out with a full length race. How about those medium tires?

Pre-season race? Are there pre-season races going on? I don't see any info on the OP on these.

No races planned this weekend since it's Christmas. Maybe next week.

 

[madcapr]

That's too bad. Although it would be nice to test it out with a full length race. How about those medium tires?



No races planned this weekend since it's Christmas. Maybe next week.

No problem, just wondering where the info is posted when these happen..

 

[CSLACR]

No problem, just wondering where the info is posted when these happen..

It will be posted up in the thread when it does, now worries.👍

Masi - I'm going to try RM's out tonight, if it's the difference I expect, it will only take me about 15 minutes anyway. I can just use Laguna and compare it to last week on RH's.

 

[Wardez]

I'm really crossing my fingers for good info. Dom.

 

[Denilson]

Me too!!

 

[CSLACR]

RM testing didn't go as planned, meaning I didn't do it.

I will though, if somebody doesn't beat me to it. Just wasn't feeling playing GT at all tonight.

 

[Otsdarva]

Ow, practicing at 4am isn't very wise if your eyes feel like they're hanging out of your head. Confound you, Insomnia!

 

[dranddad]

My car for the GT300.

Phillip.

 

[GT5_X2010]

Hello GT racers. I am hosting a Race of Champions for the GTP community so any champions of the GTRA series are eligible to enter if they wish to compete against GTPs finest racers for the title of Champion of Champions.
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[NEPALII]

Off topic: I started a 24hr Nurburgring race in a Camaro SS RM with 580HP, 1210KG. The AI had Pescarolos, CLK LMs, Toyota GTONE. LMPs vs a Camaro. I chose this to be challenging. Apparently, the Camaro isn't slow enough. After 3 laps, and with 1 pitstop done against 0 from the AI, I already had a 9 sec. lead over the AI!! Man, that just made me realize how rubbish GT5's AI is! I just quit afterwards. Btw I was using Racing Medium tires.

Any suggestions on how to make the 24hr race challenging?!

 

[CSLACR]

Off topic: I started a 24hr Nurburgring race in a Camaro SS RM with 580HP, 1210KG. The AI had Pescarolos, CLK LMs, Toyota GTONE. LMPs vs a Camaro. I chose this to be challenging. Apparently, the Camaro isn't slow enough. After 3 laps, and with 1 pitstop done against 0 from the AI, I already had a 9 sec. lead over the AI!! Man, that just made me realize how rubbish GT5's AI is! I just quit afterwards. Btw I was using Racing Medium tires.

Any suggestions on how to make the 24hr race challenging?!

If you're trying to make a close race out of 24 hours against great drivers it'll be hard enough.
I wouldn't even bother trying with the AI in GT5, best case scenario you have a long, boring, sorta close race. Worst case scenario, you have a long, boring, close race that you lose and have to do over again.

 

[NEPALII]

If you're trying to make a close race out of 24 hours against great drivers it'll be hard enough.
I wouldn't even bother trying with the AI in GT5, best case scenario you have a long, boring, sorta close race. Worst case scenario, you have a long, boring, close race that you lose and have to do over again.

Im going to try to use a slightly slower car and see how it goes. If it's still easy, F it, I'll just keep going.

 

[paulmac2k9]

Hello GT racers. I am hosting a Race of Champions for the GTP community so any champions of the GTRA series are eligible to enter if they wish to compete against GTPs finest racers for the title of Champion of Champions.
(Only open to series champions currently)
Thread: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=236505

I wonder if Aderrrm wants to teach this lot a thing or 2 .

 

[Litchi]

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[cicua]

Any suggestions on how to make the 24hr race challenging?!

1) Use any car that will not make you throw up after 2 hrs.

2) Equip it with all tyre types, so you can change to your liking when pitting.

In equal cars I usually run with tyres 2 classes below the AI, that makes it more kind of equal, and it adds more challenge than the AI is capable of anyway.

 

[GT5_X2010]

I wonder if Aderrrm wants to teach this lot a thing or 2 .

If he wants to sign up then he can sign up. Don't underestimate who we have signed up though. These guys are fast.

 

[NEPALII]

1) Use any car that will not make you throw up after 2 hrs.

2) Equip it with all tyre types, so you can change to your liking when pitting.

In equal cars I usually run with tyres 2 classes below the AI, that makes it more kind of equal, and it adds more challenge than the AI is capable of anyway.

Im using the Camaro ss RM with 482HP(stock). Almost 2 hours into the race and Im leading. The AI is just sad, I lose about 7 secs on the back straight but gain more than that on the turns. a 482HP Camaro vs Pescarolos and Toyota GT1s and Im leading It doesnt bother me but the AI needs serious work.

 

[IforceV8]

Thes are the correct GT300 specs. Fixes for Masi: Impreza premium (P) is '08 not '06, weight of standard Garaiya is 1125, weight of Celica is 1050. All cars are at stock weight. Try them out thoroughly and give feedback. 👍👍


MR-S----: 315 BHP - 1125 kg - 531 PP - 100% - stock
Celica---: 314 BHP - 1050 kg - 538 PP - 97.6% - stock
Garaiya S: 329 BHP - 1125 kg - 535 PP - 98.3% - stock
Garaiya P: 334 BHP - 1175 kg - 530 PP - 95.0% - stock
RX7 P---: 322 BHP - 1100 kg - 528 PP - 95.5% - stock
RX7 S---: 327 BHP - 1100 kg - 530 PP - 97.5% - stock
IS350---: 352 BHP - 1150 kg - 548 PP - 94.7% - stage 3 engine tuning
ImprezaP: 344 BHP - 1100 kg - 548 PP - 97.2% - stage 2 turbo
ImprezaS: 332 BHP - 1100 kg - 546 PP - 94.3% - stage 1 turbo

There's no excuses this time. There's a whole month for potentially 100+ drivers to give feedback on these specs.

I spent some time testing at Rome reverse and the times are very close.All cars were setup as i would race them at this track.I limited the laps to 5 timed laps to simulate a qualifying session.All of this was done in my online lounge.

The fastest car was the 08 Impreza.The AWD was the key to the fastest T-1 time on the slippery cobblestones.Best lap time was 1'10.364

The slowest car was the MR-S.The lack of overall downforce made the first sector very interesting.Best lap time was 1'11.085

The rest of the above listed cars all timed in at 1'10.7-1'10.8

I plan to run laps at Nurb GP/D and Fuji GT in the next week.

 

[Osr20_L]

All of this was done in my online lounge.

So it's true that the physics on the personal lounge is differet from online rooms?? or it's only mi imagination !!! 💡
cause i practiced for the quali on mi lounge, but during the quali i felt the car different from my practice, i even neded to adjust my braking zone on the fly!!

 

[CSLACR]

So it's true that the physics on the personal lounge is differet from online rooms?? or it's only mi imagination !!! 💡

Some say yes, others say no.
For me the answer is no.

 

[Litchi]

some say yes, others say no.
For me the answer is no.

+1 👍