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[peeweegary]

wowwww! todays episode was by far the best of the new season. The sylar part is going to interesting.. And we've finally found out the original 12 and the supposedly boogeyman. MAN I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK

 

[FoolKiller]

wowwww! todays episode was by far the best of the new season. The sylar part is going to interesting.. And we've finally found out the original 12 and the supposedly boogeyman. MAN I CAN'T WAIT FOR NEXT WEEK

Well, with any luck Sylar will kill the two annoying kids and take their power.


And what is up with Micah's cousin? She can learn anything she sees on TV? That is a power?

And don't get too excited about next week because they are abviously splitting storylines amongst episodes. This week we didn't get Peter and Hiro. You know if you have so many plots going on that you absolutely must split up when you tell them it is most likely a sign that YOU HAVE TOO MANY PLOTLINES!!!! Sorry, but that is beginning to annoy me.

And what is the deal with Nathan seeing the deformed reflection very now and then?

 

[Azuremen]

Did Peter ever meet Linderman? Perhaps he healed Nathan at one point from the massive explosion?

I want the hispanic kids to dye, because them seem to offer virtually nothing to the game. And Sylar is going by Gabriel, yet still doing his old smack people in the head routine. My interest is kind of fading - the Peter and Benett bits are keeping me interested, well that the Company related stuff, but some of the these plots are just kinda... I dunno, jammed in there at the moment.

 

[FoolKiller]

Did Peter ever meet Linderman? Perhaps he healed Nathan at one point from the massive explosion?

Yes, but before the explosion. Linderman was killed before the explosion.

I want the hispanic kids to dye, because them seem to offer virtually nothing to the game. And Sylar is going by Gabriel, yet still doing his old smack people in the head routine. My interest is kind of fading - the Peter and Benett bits are keeping me interested, well that the Company related stuff, but some of the these plots are just kinda... I dunno, jammed in there at the moment.

Don't forget Hiro, if for no other reason than the time travel paradoxes give me a great chance to ramble on about possibilities and theories.

Currently I am trying to figure out why so many people's parents were involved in the original 12, and how the group ties to the company.



Oh, and I will make a prediction. West does NOT kill Claire's father. It seems way too likely that West would meet him and remember him and then kill him. It is almost foretold and predictable. No, I think that someone else does it.

 

[Azuremen]

About the Linderman bit, the Peter thing had to do with him absorbing that power and then just magically healing Nathan from the ugly pulp he was.

And I completely forgot about the Hiro bit because they made no mention of it in this episode... JourneyMan is more interesting to me at the moment than Heroes is

 

[FoolKiller]

About the Linderman bit, the Peter thing had to do with him absorbing that power and then just magically healing Nathan from the ugly pulp he was.

Sorry, I was thinking Nathan. I don't believe Peter ever met Linderman, at least not after their powers began taking affect.

And I completely forgot about the Hiro bit because they made no mention of it in this episode... JourneyMan is more interesting to me at the moment than Heroes is

That doesn't say much does it?

 

[Azuremen]

Sorry, I was thinking Nathan. I don't believe Peter ever met Linderman, at least not after their powers began taking affect.


That doesn't say much does it?

Not sure what you mean with that last bit? Is it that Journeyman is actually good, or Heroes has slid that much in quality?

 

[FoolKiller]

Not sure what you mean with that last bit? Is it that Journeyman is actually good, or Heroes has slid that much in quality?

I don't like Journeyman that much. It is an okay show, but it is a premise that has been recycled so much at this point that I can't watch it without rolling my eyes.

I mean, I watched Quantum Leap when I was a kid and for people my parents' age Quantum Leap was a recycled premise. The reluctant hero time traveling without control to fix the past is idea is far from new. This and Bionic Woman both had me curious enough to watch but I am giving up on it.

The only new shows this season, so far, that have my attention enough t make me want to keep watching is Chuck and Life. Chuck is also keeping me more entertained than Heroes right now.

 

[VEXD]

Is nathan able to maintain the illusion that he is ok, whilst being very deformed after the explosion with his brother?

Did he somehow gain that girls power to create illusions, and in actual fact he's all mashed up in reality?

I havent seen ep 4 of season 2, i will watch later....

 

[Sureboss]

I'm enthrawled in this, which is unusual as I've not gotten into say Lost and all the other American TV. So VEXD you have relatives stateside sending you videos?

 

[peeweegary]

wait whats lindermans power?

 

[Azuremen]

wait whats lindermans power?

Healing things... like making it so Nathan's wife could walk again.

 

[crimson_menace]

I've been keeping loose tabs on this show. It's pretty alright, but nowhere near Lost. I'm straight addicted to that show.

 

[peeweegary]

todays episode was by far the best in the season sooo far. We got to see parkmans dads power, which is AWESOME. We were exposed to new powers. But i still think peter is overly powerful, now using isaacs power. Soon we're gonna see him ues hiros power -_-". And im attracted to Kristen Bell.

Does anybody know if the two twins are dieing next episode cause in the preview it seems like sylars bout to kill them which is gooodd. Always hated those twins.

 

[FoolKiller]

This episode was okay, although the Niki/Jessica thing was a bit out of nowhere. I do have to wonder what Niki expects to achieve by handing hersef over.

But i still think peter is overly powerful, now using isaacs power.

I don't know why he is too powerful. He can't control them and he has a great reluctance to try. He is the perfect balance for someone that can absorb powers.

Does anybody know if the two twins are dieing next episode cause in the preview it seems like sylars bout to kill them which is gooodd. Always hated those twins.

I don't know, but maybe you can grab soem clues from here:
http://www.spoilerfix.com/heroes.php

 

[livemusic]

What did you guys think of the latest episode? I think they're finally pulling it back togheter again, up to chapter five things were rather boring. I've read the series writer even apologized for dragging the story so much, and that now he knows what to do and what not to do.

The identity of Adam was expected, specially after his sword fight with Hiro. I also liked how Parkman's power can be developed, the room scene with his father and Molly was a bit mellow but cool nonetheless.

Anyway, I would like to read FK's and others' theories about what's coming.

 

[FoolKiller]

Well, I will say that I did not see Adam being Kensei. Mainly because I didn't realize that regenerative abilities made you a Highlander-style immortal. Apparently you can only die by having your head cut off. I should have known better as they have been ripping off X-Men forever and Wolverine is supposedly well over 80 years old.


I was almost completely right about Hiro being the Kensei of legend. Although the fact that Hiro fighting the dragon was nothing more than a made up chunk of the legend was bad writing. Isaac painted an image of Hiro facing down a dragon. That is the only image that has not come to pass or had the path altered in some way. It is times like these when the writer's strike makes me think that I won't miss much.


As for everything else: Peter must learn to control his abilities. The fact that he just left that chick in the future was pretty messed up. Bad writing will mean that we never see or hear about her again. Good writing means he will go get her with Hiro's help. Of course, it has to happen soon because the moment we begin trying to stop the virus then the time line is altered and she may not be in our future at all. Then we get back into more time travel issues. If altering a time line creates a parallel time line does that mean the chick is forever stuck in the plague-ridden future that is no longer accessible from the present? Or is there only one time line that changes as the present is altered? If so what is her memory of what happened after she and Peter went into the future? Does Peter's memories alter the moment he goes forward again or does he have memories of something that never happens?

God, I hate time travel stories. Too many variables that cannot be covered in an hour long weekly show.




Currently I am unsure of what game the company is playing. First they want to kill people with dangerous powers, next they want to use a virus as a "cure" (X-Men 3 much?), and then they use it as a weapon (X3 again?). At the same time they have no trouble helping some and they have a hard time deciding upon their ethical stance. Bob, and the company in general, is very schizophrenic in how they chose to handle things and do things. And now Mohinder is catching on to their schizo stuff. Everything he has warned them about has so far come true and his response is to decide they are right? Huh? He said it was unethical to test it without permission, they agree. He said it had a chance to mutate and spread to all humans, it does mutate, and we can presume the future means it spreads. His response to constantly being right is to join the people he kept disagreeing with?

Mohinder and Matt are willing to do anything to save Molly, but he can't understand what Noah is doing for Claire? At the same time, I am pretty sure that Mohinder does not shoot Noah. Of course, West seems a little too obvious.

Of course, West brings up a whole new bad writing issue. Noah wants to protect his family so he moves them to a town where he has abducted someone? Anyone as over-protective as he has become would first cross any town he has worked in from his list of options.


This week we will see what happened between seasons. Perhaps this should have been episode one. Just a thought.

 

[livemusic]

He said it had a chance to mutate and spread to all humans, it does mutate, and we can presume the future means it spreads. His response to constantly being right is to join the people he kept disagreeing with?

He still doesn't know he's right about that, though.

I always thought West already knew about Claire's father and he was just manipulating her to get to him. I don't know, he doesn't seem to be a "good guy", at least to me. Guess I was wrong.

Some people say the painting about Hiro fighting the dragon already happened at the first season, when he's in the museum getting the sword, I think there was a painting of a dragon or a statue.

After all it would be pretty weird if there was a "real" dragon in the story.

 

[FoolKiller]

He still doesn't know he's right about that, though.

He does know it mutated because he is the one that points it out to Nikki that it mutated and his blood is no longer a cure. Of course, his response is kind of ho hum for a geneticist who knows better.

Some people say the painting about Hiro fighting the dragon already happened at the first season, when he's in the museum getting the sword, I think there was a painting of a dragon or a statue.

After all it would be pretty weird if there was a "real" dragon in the story.

Kind of like a guy that can bend space and time would be weird? I see what you mean, but a symbolic dragon would work. Instead, they take this legend that Hiro is so determined to keep active and instead say it is just a legend and doesn't have to be real. In that case, Hiro has been wasting his time.

 

[VEXD]

Ive just watched it, and i wanted to say two things:

1. I love this thread, and foolkiller's theorum.

2. 28 Days later.

👍

 

[kjb]

This episode was actually pretty good. I didn't see Kensei being Adam. Don't know how th writers are resolve this thing but at least it is starting to get interesting.

 

[peeweegary]

Today's episode was good stuff!👍 Alot of questions were answered. The only thing i didn't like was the way DL died. If someone can punch through him, how come the bullet cant go through him...

P.S Kristin Bell. *I like VERY much(in Borat voice)*

 

[FoolKiller]

Today's episode was good stuff!👍 Alot of questions were answered. The only thing i didn't like was the way DL died. If someone can punch through him, how come the bullet cant go through him...

The real question is: If Nathan now has some of Adam's blood in him will he be able to always heal? If so it would be dangerous for Adam to try and help everyone because then we would be a race of immortals.

And of course that brings about the question of does Sylar need the brains to steal powers?

And DL has to activate his powers. He controls when he can go through things or have things go through him. If he is caught off guard then he gets shot, just like when Linderman shot him.


And now the ethics of the company are showing even more. They say they are trying to help Peter but they obviously have nothing even close to a cure or treatment. So far they make a lot of promises and deliver on nothing. Currently I am inclined to trust the Haitian. He seems to always make a moral choice against the company, and to this point I have constantly agreed with his choices.

Of course, the question now is, what are Adam's motives? Does he know that Hiro is alive today or is he really trying to make a difference, only to be stopped by the power hungry company created by the parents? Is everything just a ploy to get at Hiro and he has made a powerful ally in Peter just so he can have the same advantages?

And since regeneration means immortality do we have a post-apocalyptic future where the only humans left are regenerative and chasing each other around with swords, like in Highlander? That would be awesome.

 

[peeweegary]

Peter may think hes an ally to Adam but Adam is most probably just using him for his gains. I have a feeling Adam is going to dispose of him very soon.

Although i said many questions were answered, i thought about it some more today and there were quite a few things left unanswered.


"-They said we'd find out more about matts wife problems....Wasn't there.
-They said we'd find out how Matt and Mohinder started living together to take care of Molly
-They said we'd see more of how Candace got sylar out of there.....again nothing
-They didn't explain how the haitian got his job back at the company only a short time after having betrayed them by kidnapping claire from Noah.
-They didn't explain how the haitian got the virus and ended up back in haiti almost dead in such a short amount of time
-They didn't explain where the ipods went that were supposed to be in the crate peter was in....wouldn't you think that someone would have checked on that within the week the crate was shipped?
-They didn't explain how Peter knew he had a phasing ability. WE know why he has it, but he should have no idea..."

Quote's from BaseBallerX from heroestheseries.com forums.

 

[FoolKiller]

Although i said many questions were answered, i thought about it some more today and there were quite a few things left unanswered.

I'll give me quick thoughts to these.

"-They said we'd find out more about matts wife problems....Wasn't there.

She's a lying cheating wench. Who cares?

-They said we'd find out how Matt and Mohinder started living together to take care of Molly

It mostly seems obvious as they came together to find Molly. Then when Matt and his wife broke it off he and Mohinder teamed up to help Molly.

-They said we'd see more of how Candace got sylar out of there.....again nothing

Sylar's blood trail led to an open manhole cover. Either she dragged him or followed him.

-They didn't explain how the Haitian got his job back at the company only a short time after having betrayed them by kidnapping claire from Noah.

Wasn't the Haitian still in their employ? He helped Noah but wiped his mind so they wouldn't know. Or Bob brought him back in when he took over because he wouldn't know the details of what he did.

-They didn't explain how the haitian got the virus and ended up back in haiti almost dead in such a short amount of time

He became a test subject after helping Peter? Or he contracted it through working with so many people.

-They didn't explain where the ipods went that were supposed to be in the crate peter was in....wouldn't you think that someone would have checked on that within the week the crate was shipped?

Missing stuff is big, but if the container had been checked already because it was sitting in the shipping yard then it wouldn't have gotten checked. Also, the doors were already open when they got there. Maybe the Irish gang was betrayed?

-They didn't explain how Peter knew he had a phasing ability. WE know why he has it, but he should have no idea..."

His mind wasn't wiped yet and he knew he could absorb powers. I don't remember how much contact he had with DL, but most of his powers just seem to happen when he instinctively needs them, others when he gets emotional. Like everyone else finds their powers, he seems to just happen upon them naturally.

Honestly, we have the big details. Also, the previews seemed to show Hiro going back in time to attempt to save his father. Perhaps we get another background episode?

On that same note, we never see who kills his father, just a shrouded figure that runs and grabs him. Could Hiro, in trying to save his father, frightened him and his father's reaction caused him to pull him over the edge by accident?


Either way I am glad Hiro is back in the present. We need his controlled talents. I think a showdown between himself and Adam should be awesome. In order to kill Adam Hiro will have to stop time and then cut off his head.


Crazy twist of fate prediction: Adam uses Peter to help him get back at Hiro. Sylar shows up and promises to help if the company gives him his powers back. Sylar saves the day and manages to stop Peter (and help Hiro kill Adam), but not kill him. Then Sylar starts killing again and Peter, realizing his mistake goes after him to stop him. Sylar kills Maya, but Peter has absorbed her brother's power and is his counterbalance.

After all, we really have to play up this Dark Phoenix/Phoenix saga ripoff for all it's worth.

 

[peeweegary]

thanks for your predictions foolkiller.

One more thing, Heroes vol 2 is ending on Dec the 3rd or after the 11th episode. For all you heroes freaks (like me!)

EDIT:Heres an interesting read. Tim Kring talking about his mistakes in the show.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html

 

[FoolKiller]

One more thing, Heroes vol 2 is ending on Dec the 3rd or after the 11th episode. For all you heroes freaks (like me!)

Hmm, if the writer's strike ends soon will this change? A lot of shows are basically wrapping up storylines and ending seasons early.

EDIT:Heres an interesting read. Tim Kring talking about his mistakes in the show.
http://www.ew.com/ew/article/0,,20158840,00.html

He addresses everything I complain about. In light of this admission I will say what I have been saying since this strike started. Are we really losing anything?

The only issue he didn't address was the blatant X-Men ripoffs.

 

[peeweegary]

Hmm, if the writer's strike ends soon will this change? A lot of shows are basically wrapping up storylines and ending seasons early.

Im not sure but lets hope it does change if the strike ends. Its the only tv show i watch now adays.

 

[kjb]

Interesting read. A lot of the stuff he said (Kiring) said was common sense. Why not use Monday's episode as the first episode instead of the 7th. Did you notice he said that some of the new heroes may not make it. Hopefully it will be Maya and her brother. I like Monica. Her powers anyway. They bring to mind an old Avengers villian Taskmaster. Anyway I hope the strike is over soon so they right this show.

 

[kjb]

Well Foolkiller you were on the money again. Maybe you should try to write Heroes. I'm sure you do better storylines than what we see now. Monday's episode was slow until the last 10-15 minutes.